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Re: God And His Angels. by brodalikeme(m): 4:00pm On Aug 02, 2015
plaetton:


Because the God hypothesis affects everyone, including atheists.


But they don't believe in mind, so why bother. Some people believe that is you step over a pregnant woman, her child was going to look like you. I don't believe it, so it doesn't bother me if any cross my wife.
Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 4:19pm On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
the bible say he exist
and there are lot of testimonies of his existence, you need to disprove there claimed.
This is just .....EPICgrin

what more needs saying on this?

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Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 4:21pm On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
the bible say he exist and there are lot of testimonies of his existence, you need to disprove there claimed.
I'll play then.

The bible is a book written by men, with lots of inconsistencies, so how does it prove his existence?


Maybe you should tell me about the testimonies and we'll take it from there.
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 4:22pm On Aug 02, 2015
johnydon22:
This is just .....EPICgrin

what more needs saying on this?
I just tire.
Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 4:24pm On Aug 02, 2015
brodalikeme:



But they don't believe in mind, so why bother. Some people believe that is you step over a pregnant woman, her child was going to look like you. I don't believe it, so it doesn't bother me if any cross my wife.
Yes and we have people who wants you to step over your wife coming to your door everyday to tell you, opening churches of pregnant step over in almost every nook and cranny of your neighbourhood disturbing everybody's peace with shouts and musical bangs.

Bathing you in spittle as they pour down the word of the pregnant step over on you in the bus, Shouting at the top of their voice as early as 5am to tell you how your son will be an imb£cile should you not step over your wife... Reconcile that!

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Re: God And His Angels. by plaetton: 4:27pm On Aug 02, 2015
brodalikeme:



But they don't believe in mind, so why bother. Some people believe that is you step over a pregnant woman, her child was going to look like you. I don't believe it, so it doesn't bother me if any cross my wife.

C'mon, what plAnet do you live in ?

How many churches are littered in your neighborhood ?
How many Christ-drugged people do you meet or interact with everyday ?
How many people preach to you everyday ?

How many religion-centered fraud or crime do you see or read in the news everyday ?

How many religious based conflicts do you see or read in the news everyday ?

That is my point, that the irrational acts of the god-infested mind affects everyone in the society.
therefore, everyone has a stake in mocking, checkmating and rolling back the irrational impulses and activities of Homo-Religilous Nigeriana.
grin
Re: God And His Angels. by johnydon22(m): 4:27pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
I just tire.

The quran says Allah exist

Shruti says Brahma exists

Book of pyramids says Osiris exists

Homers Illiad says Zeus exist

J.R.R Tolkien Lord of the ring says Gandalf Exists.


It is settled he just closed everything. . .

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Re: God And His Angels. by plaetton: 4:35pm On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
you never disappoint , I know you will throw insult, am busy now leter.


That has always been my dilemma.
How to respond commensurately to that post or similar posts, without highlighting the underpinning insanity that engenders such a clearly demented worldview.
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 4:39pm On Aug 02, 2015
johnydon22:

The quran says Allah exist

Shruti says Brahma exists

Book of pyramids says Osiris exists

Homers Illiad says Zeus exist

J.R.R Tolkien Lord of the ring says Gandalf Exists.


It is settled he just closed everything. . .
I really really wonder john, really, how can anyone not get it?

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Re: God And His Angels. by scarred9jan(m): 4:50pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
I really really wonder john, really, how can anyone not get it?

because religion teaches you to be close minded and selfish. My journey to atheism started when i asked the simple question "what if". What if i was born a christian would i still think jesus is the lord of lords etc.

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Re: God And His Angels. by brodalikeme(m): 5:25pm On Aug 02, 2015
plaetton:


C'mon, what plAnet do you live in ?

How many churches are littered in your neighborhood ?
How many Christ-drugged people do you meet or interact with everyday ?
How many people preach to you everyday ?

How many religion-centered fraud or crime do you see or read in the news everyday ?

How many religious based conflicts do you see or read in the news everyday ?

That is my point, that the irrational acts of the god-infested mind affects everyone in the society.
therefore, everyone has a stake in mocking, checkmating and rolling back the irrational impulses and activities of Homo-Religilous Nigeriana.
grin

I get you point, I think it is high time the godless go on an outreach to spread their message of the non existence of God. You guys shouldn't be left out. But hope deep down in your hearts you are sure of yourselves not just acting based on the fact that a mere mortal like yourself have offended you and you take it out on God or trying to look smart and clever because you opposite God.
Re: God And His Angels. by plaetton: 5:38pm On Aug 02, 2015
brodalikeme:


I get you point, I think it is high time the godless go on an outreach to spread their message of the non existence of God. You guys shouldn't be left out. But hope deep down in your hearts you are sure of yourselves not just acting based on the fact that a mere mortal like yourself have offended you and you take it out on God or trying to look smart and clever because you opposite God.

Hey, listen, all of us , from childhood, have been fed all manners of fairy tales, from NNA MBE, to snow white, the big bad wolf, Santa Clause and the Grinch that stole christmas. None of these fairy tales diminishes human dignity in any way nor threatens my peace, harmony and wellbeing.
None of the aforementioned fairy tales invokes guilt, superiority complex or hatred towards my fellow human beings, neither does any of them exploit weaker minded humans for money and resources.

So, my friend, the innocent or ignorant belief in fairy tales is harmless in of itself, and even healthy for the development of a child's mind.

The god fairytale is a different ballgame altogether. It perpetually pits one side of humanity against another.
It is the antithesis of peace and harmony, of human dignity. It is, as history has shown, a harbinger of hatred, division and destruction.

So, it is not just about ignoring it.
It is about mocking it, checkmating it, rolling it back with the only effective tool there is : Reason.

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Re: God And His Angels. by LordReed(m): 5:56pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
I was just wondering, why did angels only appear in male form? Is it that there are no female angels or what? What does God have against women exactly, anyone?

Who told you they appear only in male form?
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 5:57pm On Aug 02, 2015
LordReed:


Who told you they appear only in male form?
The bible.
Re: God And His Angels. by LordReed(m): 6:21pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
The bible.

I am going to say ok you are somewhat correct seeing that you didn't say they are male, you said they appear in male form. Their form may be male but in a sense they are neither male nor female or you could say it doesn't matter as they don't procreate.
Re: God And His Angels. by illiad: 6:27pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
Dude I was born an atheist just like everyone else, our parents/society instilled the god nonsense in us.

The only thing that happened is that I make use of my brain, it has nothing to do with being angry.


surely I arrived late to your feast. Yet a butt in is in order, I supposed.


...it is impossible to deny the existence of God.

And to arm you well, I don't believe in Religion.

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Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 6:28pm On Aug 02, 2015
LordReed:


I am going to say ok you are somewhat correct seeing that you didn't say they are male, you said they appear in male form. Their form may be male but in a sense they are neither male nor female or you could say it doesn't matter as they don't procreate.

Oh! Please.

If it doesn't or didn't matter, why couldn't they have appeared as female even just once?
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 6:30pm On Aug 02, 2015
illiad:



surely I arrived late to your feast. Yet a butt in is in order, I supposed.


...it is impossible to deny the existence of God.

And to arm you well, I don't believe in Religion.
The floor is yours, let's hear it.
Re: God And His Angels. by LordReed(m): 6:57pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
Oh! Please.

If it doesn't or didn't matter, why couldn't they have appeared as female even just once?

Only the Person who sent them can fully answer that. I am only reminding you of what was revealed about their nature. My opinion is that the personal pronoun he/him is used to address them because it would be "impolite" or maybe "irreverent" to use it. These beings are not earthly beings so we may only be projecting our own bias unto them. I am also of the opinion that the patriarchal nature of those times made it so that that bias was expressed as male.

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Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 7:06pm On Aug 02, 2015
LordReed:


Only the Person who sent them can fully answer that. I am only reminding you of what was revealed about their nature. My opinion is that the personal pronoun he/him is used to address them because it would be "impolite" or maybe "irreverent" to use it. These beings are not earthly beings so we may only be projecting our own bias unto them. I am also of the opinion that the patriarchal nature of those times made it so that that bias was expressed as male.
Bias indeeed, anyways I like your answer, it's evident that there is an undertone to that.

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Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 7:10pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
I'll play then.

The bible is a book written by men, with lots of inconsistencies, so how does it prove his existence?


Maybe you should tell me about the testimonies and we'll take it from there.
what is it that you don't understand in the bible ?
Re: God And His Angels. by LordReed(m): 7:20pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
Bias indeeed, anyways I like your answer, it's evident that there is an undertone to that.

Remember Sodom? The angels could have been so good looking it was hard to tell if they were male or female.
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 7:28pm On Aug 02, 2015
LordReed:


Remember Sodom? The angels could have been so good looking it was hard to tell if they were male or female.
What are you talking about? The men specifically told lot to bring the two "MEN" how can they call them men if they weren't disguised as men? Ha!

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Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 7:29pm On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
what is it that you don't understand in the bible ?
Everything, start wherever you like.
Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 7:32pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
Everything, start wherever you like.
present your case, God willing , I will response.
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 7:35pm On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
present your case, God willing , I will response.
are you alright? I said my case is with everything about the bible, whatever the bible stands for is my case, you do know the meaning of everything, right?
Re: God And His Angels. by illiad: 7:45pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
The floor is yours, let's hear it.

Thank You!


I have said it all!
It is impossible to deny the Existence of God!

So take your time and state your rebuttal & feel free to invite your supporters!

And in addition let me gladden your heart with the news that No Reference will be made to Religion of any sort to defend my assertion. So let's have a purely intellectual discuss.
Re: God And His Angels. by malvisguy212: 7:46pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
are you alright? I said my case is with everything about the bible, whatever the bible stands for is my case, you do know the meaning of everything, right?
am fine thank you.

You mean the whole message in the bible, you hate them ? Including this :

Matthew 5:43-48
Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love
your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies and
pray for those who persecute you, 45
that you may be children of your Father
in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on
the evil and the good, and sends rain on
the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If
you love those who love you, what
reward will you get? Are not even the tax
collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet
only your own people, what are you
doing more than others? Do not even
pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore,
as your heavenly Father is perfect.

What is it you don't understand?
Re: God And His Angels. by Tjayjosh(m): 8:04pm On Aug 02, 2015
freecocoa:
You sound crazy, no offence meant.
I'm not crazy. If you do it and nothing happens, then i'd agree with you that God doesn't exist. Please do it.
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 8:16pm On Aug 02, 2015
Tjayjosh:

I'm not crazy. If you do it and nothing happens, then i'd agree with you that God doesn't exist. Please do it.
You are crazy, you just don't know it yet.
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 8:18pm On Aug 02, 2015
malvisguy212:
am fine thank you.

You mean the whole message in the bible, you hate them ? Including this :

Matthew 5:43-48
Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love
your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies and
pray for those who persecute you, 45
that you may be children of your Father
in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on
the evil and the good, and sends rain on
the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If
you love those who love you, what
reward will you get? Are not even the tax
collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet
only your own people, what are you
doing more than others? Do not even
pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore,
as your heavenly Father is perfect.

What is it you don't understand?
Ok, God is perfect, yea?and the originator of all things, Where did imperfection, like sin come from?
Re: God And His Angels. by freecocoa(f): 8:27pm On Aug 02, 2015
illiad:


Thank You!


I have said it all!
It is impossible to deny the Existence of God!

So take your time and state your rebuttal & feel free to invite your supporters!

And in addition let me gladden your heart with the news that No Reference will be made to Religion of any sort to defend my assertion. So let's have a purely intellectual discuss.
Ok, lol @ supporters,you say it's impossible and I say there's nothing like god so far from everything we see or know, now tell me how I can't deny him being there.

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