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misreal:
woah.i didn't know this oh.

If you've got spare time read the suggested link on Simon Magus and the origin of the Roman Catholic church.

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

italo:
You're saying the earlier they disregarded the bible compiled by the Catholic Church, the better for them.

That is false...and demonic.

Does this Bible support all the false teachings contained in your catechisms I listed in the thread I posted some time ago?

==> https://www.nairaland.com/2422498/list-false-teachings-roman-catholic

jaegermesiter:
Its a big shame that you are twisting what the pope said,in our disdain for the catholic church let us be careful not make libelious statement,xtianity is abt God,U and ur neigbhours,

Are you saying that we must join the Roman Catholic Church in order to have a relationship with Jesus Christ?

jaegermesiter:
faith alone can't save you,but faith and good works.

You are saying that the finished work of Jesus on the Cross of Calvary is not sufficient, right? What happens to Ephesians 2:8 which says:

"For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast".

jaegermesiter:
Rome is not the centre of the church cos peter preached there but cos he died there,the first HQ of the church was Jerusalem and there was d first council conveined.what abt the churches founded by the other apostles? James,phillip,john,bartholomew,what were they Syrian catholic or mesopotamia catholic??

How many HQs of the Church do we have?

jaegermesiter:
Roman catholic church is a term used to describe the catholics by protestants

How does the Roman Catholics describe themselves?

italo:
Nowhere does the verse say the bold. You're lying against the bible as usual.

You should also show us where in the Bible used priests and confessionals in the Church of Christ. Check the link I suggested above to find out my reasons for the bolded. ==> http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

italo:
Jesus was a religious folk. He was baptized. He was circumcised. He went to Jerusalem on pilgrimage. He asked us to be baptized. He asked us to receive communion. He made Peter the head of the Church. He taught the apostles to ordain their successors. Jesus gave us doctrines to adhere to.

Jesus gave us the religion. If you hate religion, go and fight Jesus.

You missed it again. Jesus brought us a relationship with God through His blood and not to make us religious. If it were to make us more religiou He would not have stepped out of eternity to suffer on the Cross for our sins.

Jozzy4:
Fear God o , pls show me where in the bible it was stated that Simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

Read up about it in the link below only if you have the heart to take in the bitter truth.

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

OLAADEGBU:
Read up about it in the link below only if you have the heart to take in the bitter truth.

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

I didnt ask for a link , I asked for a scripture that support your statement that simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

Jozzy4:
I didnt ask for a link , I asked for a scripture that support your statement that simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

The link contains scriptures which infers and supports my statement. If you wouldn't read or can't read then please move on.

OLAADEGBU:
The link contains scriptures which infers and supports my statement. If you wouldn't read or can't read then please move on.

Post that scripture or are you a liar ?

Jozzy4:
Post that scripture or are you a liar ?

Since when have Roman Catholics been using Scriptures as the basis for their doctrines?

OLAADEGBU:
Read up about it in the link below only if you have the heart to take in the bitter truth.

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

Wow! I read it, I just knew that now.

Amazing! Still going to do more research.

OLAADEGBU:
Since when have Roman Catholics been using Scriptures as the basis for their doctrines?

Kindly Post the scripture that said Simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

Jozzy4:
Kindly Post the scripture that said Simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

When you post Scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful then I may oblige you.

OLAADEGBU:
Since when have Roman Catholics been using Scriptures as the basis for their doctrines?

Also ask them for the scripture that said Peter was the first Pope.

OLAADEGBU:
When you post Scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful then I may oblige you.

Sorry to disapoint you , am not a catholic and I never made the statement above . But I Hate Lies .
you are adding more problems for yourself because I can ask you to show me where I said the above . Be warned .


Kindly post the scripture that said Simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

If one would not have a personal relationship with the twin aspects of Christ. The spirit of Christ and the power of Christ (commonly refereed to as the Holy Spirit). How can that person live a godly life or have a fearless confidence in the face of the powers of the adversary.

Well, unless the intention of the pope here. Is to keep people, coming to church for .... But he would have considered the shame such policy. Have being causing the Christendom. Many churches-few godly people. Many prayer meetings-few disciples of Christ and few miracles.

The pontiff never said ,you must join the catholic church,Haven't u ever heard of Ecumenism?all his homily was centred about better human relations amongst our neighbors....Scrpture says and I quote
' And Jesus went around doing Good'.you can't claim to profess Jesus and watch your fellow brother suffer.It doesn't add up.
The catholics refer to themselves as Catholics and the Catholic church is simply referrred to as 'the church'
And they are about 12 local churches in the church viz latin,byzantine.germanaic etc
The term pope simply means Papa(an aged father) peter further demonstrated his pontificate during the council of Jerusalem.pls sir,I tink our argument should be on non-christians,as all christians believe in christ,let's try to reach out to non-christians,not every thing is in the bible,the term trinity isn't in the bible.
Let's truly save the souls of the damned and stop arguing abt which church is inferior

Jeromejnr:
Also ask them for the scripture that said Peter was the first Pope.

And maybe they will post Scriptures for where Jesus said the Roman Catholic Church is the one and only Church.

Jozzy4:
Sorry to disapoint you , am not a catholic and I never made the statement above . But I Hate Lies .
you are adding more problems for yourself because I can ask you to show me where I said the above . Be warned .


Kindly post the scripture that said Simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ?

Did I say you are a catholic or did I say that you posted scriptures? What I meant was when you post scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful (only) then will I post Scriptures that says the RCC was founded by Simon. Do you now get my point?

OLAADEGBU:
Did I say you are a catholic or did I say that you posted scriptures? I meant was when you post scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful (only) then will I post Scriptures that says the RCC was founded by Simon. Do you now get my point?

Okay , show me where I make such statement as " having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful " ?



... I warned you earlier .

Height of stupidi.ty , I should present evidence for what I didnt say ? ?

jaegermesiter:
The pontiff never said ,you must join the catholic church,Haven't u ever heard of Ecumenism?all his homily was centred about better human relations amongst our neighbors....Scrpture says and I quote
' And Jesus went around doing Good'.you can't claim to profess Jesus and watch your fellow brother suffer.It doesn't add up.

The pontiff teaches that salvation can only come from the Roman catholic church and if you are not in the Roman catholic church how can you have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ?

jaegermesiter:
The catholics refer to themselves as Catholics and the Catholic church is simply referrred to as 'the church'
And they are about 12 local churches in the church viz latin,byzantine.germanaic etc

Have you thought about the reason why it will refer to itself as 'The Church'?

jaegermesiter:
The term pope simply means Papa(an aged father) peter further demonstrated his pontificate during the council of Jerusalem.

Where is it in Scriptures that we should be calling him Pope?

jaegermesiter:
pls sir,I tink our argument should be on non-christians,as all christians believe in christ,let's try to reach out to non-christians,not every thing is in the bible,the term trinity isn't in the bible.
Let's truly save the souls of the damned and stop arguing abt which church is inferior

Are you a Christian?

Jozzy4:
Okay , show me where I make such statement as " having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful " ?



... I warned you earlier .

It seems you are having difficulties understanding my statement. Let me put it to you this way: The moment you post the scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful will be the time I will oblige your request.

Jozzy4:
Height of stupidi.ty , I should present evidence for what I didnt say ? ?

Don't be a nescient. You should have paid attention at school.

OLAADEGBU:
It seems you are having difficulties understanding my statement. Let me put it to you this way: The moment you post the scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful will be the time I will oblige your request .

Everyone can see that you are a Liar trying to play games .
The thread title says the pope said it , ask him for scriptural proof and if he couldnt declare him a Liar ! Now back to you , show me the scripture that support Your own statement that Simon the scorcerer founded the catholic Church ?



Or You both are liars ?

OLAADEGBU:
It seems you are having difficulties understanding my statement. Let me put it to you this way: The moment you post the scriptures that says having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and harmful will be the time I will oblige your request .

Everyone can see that you are a Liar trying to play games .
The thread title says the Pope said the bolded statement , ask him for scriptural proof , if he cant prove it , declare him a Liar !

Now back to you , show me the scripture that support YOUR statement that Simon the scorcerer founded the catholic Church ?




Or You both are liars ?

OLAADEGBU:
[s]
Don't be a nescient. You should have paid attention at school. [/s]

Am not asking you to prove what you didnt say , you actually said it that Simon the sorcerer founded the catholic church ? Scriptural source pls .

OLAADEGBU:
All you said here is based on speculation, not the truth.

Hey, you can quote scripture all you want and yet not know truth. Truth is absolute and there is a Spirit of truth which we must yield ourselves to. And don't forget, "the letter kills. . . "

So when it comes to people, especially other Christians; it is better to be careful and not pretend to be God, speaking and judging the thoughts and intents of others, because we will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ.

donnie:
Hey, you can quote scripture all you want and yet not know truth. Truth is absolute and there is a Spirit of truth which we must yield ourselves to. And don't forget, "the letter kills. . . "

So when it comes to people, especially other Christians; it is better to be careful and not pretend to be God, speaking and judging the thoughts and intents of others, because we will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ.

Let's talk about what you know. Do people have to join your Christ Embassy before they can have a personal relationship with Christ? and I don't mean Chris.

OLAADEGBU:
You missed it again. Jesus brought us a relationship with God through His blood and not to make us religious. If it were to make us more religiou He would not have stepped out of eternity to suffer on the Cross for our sins.

The bible disproves you again:

Matt26:26 And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body.


Luke22:19 Then he took a loaf of bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

That is the height of religion and personal relationship with the Lord.

Both cannot be separated!

OLAADEGBU:
You should also show us where in the Bible used priests and confessionals in the Church of Christ. Check the link I suggested above to find out my reasons for the bolded. ==> http://www.hope-of-israel.org/magus.html

John20:22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

I keep quoting the bible; you keep contradicting the bible with demonic "links."

OLAADEGBU:
Does this Bible support all the false teachings contained in your catechisms I listed in the thread I posted some time ago?

==> https://www.nairaland.com/2422498/list-false-teachings-roman-catholic

The Canon of scripture is also a Catholic teaching. You're saying the bible is false.