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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:29pm On Oct 26, 2015
yemaldo:

Ilorin was part of oyo empire, more important than many s/w town back then and when we talk about resources, kwara state has many solid minerals, Google is ur friends and I think they have more than ekiti because I don't think ekiti has much as well

But should we allow fifth columnists like their ancestor, Afonja, to join the Yoruba commonwealth cos of negligible resources? Their loyalty is with Northerners and Fulani emir. And these folks played a big role in the destruction of Oyo.

I also believe there's a reason why Yorubas never bothered to reclaim Ilorin, after defeating the Fulanis at Oshogbo. So it might be safer to let them be. Personally, if I were to choose, I'd pick Itsekiri in lieu of Ilorin. At least Itsekiris have resources and they're more intertwined with riverine Yorubas and Edos (who're like cousins to Yorubas) than Ilorin, to be honest. It's not worth it.

If we want Ilorin - we might as well go all the way to Oyo Katanga and claim the place - since Oyo started from there, before moving to Oyo Ile. That's just my opinion.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:34pm On Oct 26, 2015
mandarin:


I did answer your question. I said not just the Akoko are Yoruba but also many other tribes not well covered in Samuel Johnson history which centred on Oyo empire. Tale the Ogongo Magori ,Igala, Olukumi and the Bini royal houses

I do ot even know anything about the Ogori Magogos. Igalas have more link with the Igbos than the yorubas.

Olukumis are descendants of Oduduwa. Likewise the ruling houe of Bini.

I even read that the official language of the Oba of Benin within the courtyard is Yoruba, I do not know how true that is, but taking the eulogy of Oba of benin -- Iku Akpolokpolo -- it might be true.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Arogunmasa(m): 8:36pm On Oct 26, 2015
grin
Funjosh:



I joined the train sometime from lagos to Offa, we left Lagos 10am and got to Offa 3:45am the following day sad tongue
cheesy grin

Aare didn't address the Ikorodu part though. My point is can't SW states make speed trains without fg intervention?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 8:36pm On Oct 26, 2015
laudate:


Train, ke?? In Nigeria?? In fact, anytime I think about rail transportation in this country, I feel like crying. The management of NRC needs to be overhauled.


Its not funny o. I just pity those people that seat at the economic class. Even at a point the air condition stop working and the whole glass was sealed it can't be open. We got to Ibadan few mins past 8pm abeg make I no remember that experience again jare.


I was so ashamed to even narrate it to my siblings when I return home. My elder bro was like " nkan ti oju eyin arin irin ajo ma n ri ni yen" tongue

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jaymichael(m): 8:39pm On Oct 26, 2015
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:39pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:


I do ot even know anything about the Ogori Magogos. Igalas have more link with the Igbos than the yorubas.

Olukumis are descendants of Oduduwa. Likewise the ruling houe of Bini.

I even read that the official language of the Oba of Benin within the courtyard is Yoruba, I do not know how true that is, but taking the eulogy of Oba of benin -- Iku Akpolokpolo -- it might be true.

Brev, did you see that thread in the culture section where Yorubas were representing their part of Yorubaland - and shockingly the overwhelming majority of folks there were Yorubas from Kogi? grin

That's some funny thread and I like those Yorubas from Kogi - they adore their Yoruba roots despite not being part of the SW.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:41pm On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:


I like mean women cool

Eventually her slaves killed her.

No, she was killed by the Ibadan warriors.

She killed a slave girl for getting pregnant. She accused another slave of impregnating her, whereas it was her younger brother that is responsible and the younger brother actually lay claim to the pregnancy. All pleas fell on her deaf ears, She instructed the lady to be beheaded, but the slave by an dthe younger brother connived and made the lady to escape. She killed them all and still executed the lady.

The King summoned her to the palace several times, she never showed up The King later gave the final order that she must be brought to the palace whether dead or alive. He dispatched the fiercest warriors to her house. She was eventually overpowered, but se committed suicide before they could effect the arrest.

She was very close friend of Madam Tinubu, the iyalode of Egba,
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Missy89(f): 8:42pm On Oct 26, 2015
ProfShymex:


Okay. But are they Yoruba and do they see themselves as Yorubas? Also, do they speak a language that's intelligible to Yorubas?

And which one are you from - the Yoruba side or the Edo side?


Yea they do see themselves as Yorubas. They have full Yoruba names etc and the language is not really similar but i am not sure how i can explain it to you.Yoruba is generally spoken anyways. But if you only speak yoruba you wont understand it language.

I am from the South East so that is mostly the part that migrated to the West,founded their own towns and mixed with other Akokos and can trace their ancestry back to old Benin.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 8:42pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:


I do ot even know anything about the Ogori Magogos. Igalas have more link with the Igbos than the yorubas.

Olukumis are descendants of Oduduwa. Likewise the ruling houe of Bini.

I even read that the official language of the Oba of Benin within the courtyard is Yoruba, I do not know how true that is, but taking the eulogy of Oba of benin -- Iku Akpolokpolo -- it might be true.



Wrong.


Igala people culture and language more closely to Yoruba.

Come and eat in Igala = wa ba mi jeun

Vigilante = Olode

And some other stuff like that.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:45pm On Oct 26, 2015
ProfShymex:


Brev, did you see that thread in the culture section where Yorubas were representing their part of Yorubaland - and shockingly the overwhelming majority of folks there were Yorubas from Kogi? grin

That's some funny thread and I like those Yorubas from Kogi - they adore their Yoruba roots despite not being part of the SW.

I hardly visit other sections, apart from Politics. There are too many shallow brains and air-headed fellas in other sections.

For ths category of yorubas, that have shown enthusiasm in aligning with their root, it is our duty to protect them. It is let to Ilorin people to do same and the Akoko Edos. The olukumi have always lay claim to their yoruba heritage. Likewise Itshekiris. Though we prefer to recognise the itshekiris as a different ethnicity because of the distance.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 8:46pm On Oct 26, 2015
WIZGUY69:
After Ogun state which state have the highest number of billionaire?

Egbon, it should be Osun. We Ijeshas have countless Billionaires(hope I've not just bought a job for myself).


And we also admire Ijebus and respect them for their success.

Ijebu No 1. RESPECT. Too many Billionaires. Too much MONEY.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 26, 2015
Arogunmasa:
grin cheesy grin

Aare didn't address the Ikorodu part though. My point is can't SW states make speed trains without fg intervention?


Lol how can that happen when most southwest states are owing worker's salaries


Even Lagos i doubt can complete the rail project in the next 10 years with the way this country is setup


Speed trains with this IGR? cheesy


Support regional autonomy and see wonders

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 26, 2015
Missy89:

Yea they do see themselves as Yorubas. They have full Yoruba names etc and the language is not really similar but i am not sure how i can explain it to you.Yoruba is generally spoken anyways. But if you only speak yoruba you wont understand it language.

I am from the South East so that is mostly the part that migrated to the West,founded their own towns and mixed with other Akokos and can trace their ancestry back to old Benin.

I thought you said ya dad is proper Yoruba and ya mum is an Ibadanised Akoko woman. So you're full Akoko then, no?

And do you see yourself as Yoruba or Edo?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:47pm On Oct 26, 2015
Funjosh:




Wrong.


Igala people culture and language more closely to Yoruba.

Come and eat in Igala = wa ba mi jeun

Vigilante = Olode

And some other stuff like that.

Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked.

I thought there is always this story of Nri and Eri and the link with the Igbos. I have always felt they are Igbo's cousin, the same way Itshekiris and Binis are ours.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Missy89(f): 8:47pm On Oct 26, 2015
Funjosh:


I have listened to most of their language, the more I tried to understand it the more I get lost sad

From one town to the Other sad

Yeah every town have its own distinct dialect.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 8:48pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:
I do ot even know anything about the Ogori Magogos. Igalas have more link with the Igbos than the yorubas.

Olukumis are descendants of Oduduwa. Likewise the ruling houe of Bini.

I even read that the official language of the Oba of Benin within the courtyard is Yoruba, I do not know how true that is, but taking the eulogy of Oba of benin -- Iku Akpolokpolo -- it might be true.

Bros, na God I take beg you, Igalas do NOT have links with the Igbo. shocked Please do not believe all the stories you read on Nairaland, from those chaps across the Niger.

superstar1:
Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked.

I thought there is always this story of Nri and Eri and the link with the Igbos. I have always felt they are Igbo's cousin, the same way Itshekiris and Binis are ours.

Cous-kini?? I beg, I reject that thought on behalf of the Igala, even though they have not sent me on this errand. Please do not believe all the hypothesis on Eri/Nri as the blood tie between Igbo and Igala. Thank you. undecided

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:49pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:


Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked.

I thought there is always this story of Nri and Eri and the link with the Igbos. I have always felt they are Igbo's cousin, the same way Itshekiris and Binis are ours.


Yeah Igala language sounds a lot like itsekiri.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 8:51pm On Oct 26, 2015
Missy89:



Yea they do see themselves as Yorubas. They have full Yoruba names etc and the language is not really similar but i am not sure how i can explain it to you.Yoruba is generally spoken anyways. But if you only speak yoruba you wont understand it language.

I am from the South East so that is mostly the part that migrated to the West,founded their own towns and mixed with other Akokos and can trace their ancestry back to old Benin.


Hmmm. That is one thing I noticed whenever I speak general Yoruba, dey understand. But whenever they are communicating withing themselves I don't pick a single word from it. sad

I think same with the Yoruba of Kogi and some Part of Akoko Edo also.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 8:53pm On Oct 26, 2015
laudate:


Bros, na God I take beg you, Igalas do NOT have links with the Igbo. shocked Please do not believe all the stories you read on Nairaland, from those chaps across the Niger.



Cous-kini?? I beg, I reject that thought on behalf of the Igala, even though they have not sent me on this errand. Please do not believe all the hypothesis on Eri/Nri as the blood tie between Igbo and Igala. Thank you. undecided

yeeeeeeee mo gbe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have been duped. I accepted the story hook line and sinker, I also read it up and that was what i read. i need to read up more niyen sha.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 8:54pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:


No, she was killed by the Ibadan warriors.

She killed a slave girl for getting pregnant. She accused another slave of impregnating her, whereas it was her younger brother that is responsible and the younger brother actually lay claim to the pregnancy. All pleas fell on her deaf ears, She instructed the lady to be beheaded, but the slave by an dthe younger brother connived and made the lady to escape. She killed them all and still executed the lady.

The King summoned her to the palace several times, she never showed up The King later gave the final order that she must be brought to the palace whether dead or alive. He dispatched the fiercest warriors to her house. She was eventually overpowered, but se committed suicide before they could effect the arrest.

She was very close friend of Madam Tinubu, the iyalode of Egba,

Chaiiii!
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:55pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:

I hardly visit other sections, apart from Politics. There are too many shallow brains and air-headed fellas in other sections.

For ths category of yorubas, that have shown enthusiasm in aligning with their root, it is our duty to protect them. It is let to Ilorin people to do same and the Akoko Edos. The olukumi have always lay claim to their yoruba heritage. Likewise Itshekiris. Though we prefer to recognise the itshekiris as a different ethnicity because of the distance.

Lmao @ shallow brains. Culture actually used to be the best section when I first joined NL. I think the decline started when they started making everything too Igbocentric...then once they made the Chief Igbo bigot, bigfrancis, a mod on there - everyone just left the section. But back in the day - it used to be live with a lot of knowledgeable folks, and even foreigners.

Kogi Yorubas are supremely loyal from what I've seen. I believe the Akoko Edo are the Yoruba ones, while the Akoko in Ondo are the Edo ones, based on the little I know from posts in the culture section - I might be wrong though.

Itsekiris are Yorubas. They have maintained their Yoruba clans and all those clans still exist in Ijebu waterside. Ugborodo, Omadino, Ureju, Irigbo, Inorin etc..
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 8:56pm On Oct 26, 2015
Funjosh:



Hmmm. That is one thing I noticed whenever I speak general Yoruba, dey understand. But whenever they are communicating withing themselves I don't pick a single word from it. sad

I think same with the Yoruba of Kogi and some Part of Akoko Edo also.



The yoruba Okun people speak is as clear as the one the yorubas in Lagos speak
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 8:56pm On Oct 26, 2015
How can we claim that a group is not Yoruba when Ekiti /Ondo is quite different from Oyo?

And who made Oyo the language and the rest dialects? undecided

I see itsekiri as another Yoruba dialect.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 8:57pm On Oct 26, 2015
superstar1:


Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked.

I thought there is always this story of Nri and Eri and the link with the Igbos. I have always felt they are Igbo's cousin, the same way Itshekiris and Binis are ours.

Yea they quickly understand Yoruba Language whenever they move west also cos of the little Language similarities.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 8:57pm On Oct 26, 2015
ProfShymex:


Ijesha folk are great folks - high flyers.

Are the Adenles from Ijeshaland, or just a next part of Osun?

Some Dapo Fagbenle guy that I posted here yesterday...his chic is an Adenle and apparently her grandad used to be the king. You need to see this girl and her sis, they're two of the most beautiful chics you'll ever see. I can post their pics - even their pics won't do justice to how extremely beautiful they look in person lol.

I don't know where the Adenles are from. The Fagbenles should be either Ijeshas or Ekitis.

I grew up in Ile-Ife, I can't even speak Ijesha very well despite the fact that my both parents are from Ilesha. They went to do Osomalo in Ile-Ife in 1974. We were all born and raised at Ife. I speak Ife dialect more than Ijesha. I hardly visit home.

You are doing a good job Bro.

Still, I follow.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 9:02pm On Oct 26, 2015
IlekeHD:
How can we claim that a group is not Yoruba when Ekiti /Ondo is quite different from Oyo?

And who made Oyo the language and the rest dialects? undecided

I see itsekiri as another Yoruba dialect.

It came to be because Oyo was the administrative HQ for a long time. Ibadan was a military HQ while Ile Ife was the spiritual HQ.

Oyo dialect ended up being the lingua franca because of the role Oyo was playig then. It was the FCT of that time.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Funjosh(m): 9:02pm On Oct 26, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:




The yoruba Okun people speak is as clear as the one the yorubas in Lagos speak


Ho! Is that so, well those are the part of Yorubaland I haven't been to anyway, so I haven't listen to them whenever they speak on their soil.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Missy89(f): 9:04pm On Oct 26, 2015
ProfShymex:


I thought you said ya dad is proper Yoruba and ya mum is an Ibadanised Akoko woman. So you're full Akoko then, no?

And do you see yourself as Yoruba or Edo?

Nah! I am full Akoko. 100%. cool

Well the Benin ancestry thingy is mostly for historical purpose now. Most people from that part of the state have 100% Yoruba mentality

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:05pm On Oct 26, 2015
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:09pm On Oct 26, 2015
My apologies to those of you with low data, I'm about to infiltrate this thread with Lagos pictures.

Any opposer?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:09pm On Oct 26, 2015
It seems Ilekehd is about to take aresa's position as regards Lagos cheesy cheesy grin

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