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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Atogirl: 10:35pm On Nov 01, 2015
lomaxx:


You're biased in my opinion. I've noticed that utme candidates have a smoother medical school journey than those that have had a first degree. It doesn't mean they are immune from issues. First degree students usually feel they've seen it all. Believe me, that mentality is counterproductive. it's the same mentality repeat students have when repeating a class- seeing it all. And that's why they keep having issues.

Medical school training is enough to instill the foundation of maturity. It's not just about passing exams. Those that know, know.

Happy Sunday grin
But you will agree that those with a first degree are always focused.They know what it means to have spent 4 good years in school and still come back to read medicine.
I've missed you in this thread Dr Lomaxx,hope everything is fine?
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 11:14am On Nov 02, 2015
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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Millex(m): 1:25pm On Nov 02, 2015
Thewhizzkid1:
Greetings friends. My essay has just been published on a site for an essay competition and I need your votes. Please just like the article by clicking the Facebook icon close to the bottom of the article page. Ur comments(which also count as votes) are also highly welcomed. U can comment using the comment box below the article page. Thanks.
Below is the link to my essay.
http://www.nuhafoundation.org/home/blog/bloggingentries/2015/youth/remodelling_the_modern_education_system_s_igbe#.Vjc2yFAo_Js
Bro I just checked out your essay it's really rich and inspiring, was wondering if I could features you on my blog wanted ur permission. Reply please www.sesansblog. that's my blog
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by lomaxx: 2:05pm On Nov 02, 2015
Atogirl:
I've missed you in this thread Dr Lomaxx,hope everything is fine?

I've been okay. I just took a long break from NL.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 4:24pm On Nov 02, 2015
Millex:

Bro I just checked out your essay it's really rich and inspiring, was wondering if I could features you on my blog wanted ur permission. Reply please www.sesansblog. that's my blog
Thanks for your comment bro but you will have to wait till the winners are announced first, and then u contact the organizers, before u can feature it on ur blog. The article is supposed to be read from only that site and seeing it in another site is not good at all. Hope you understand. Thanks.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by taiocol: 4:30pm On Nov 02, 2015
Thewhizzkid1:

Thanks for your comment bro but you will have to wait till the winners are announced first, and then u contact the organizers, before u can feature it on ur blog. The article is supposed to be read from only that site and seeing it in another site is not good at all. Hope you understand. Thanks.


Unable to vote
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 4:38pm On Nov 02, 2015
taiocol:



Unable to vote
Use uc browser pls.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Atogirl: 5:33pm On Nov 02, 2015
lomaxx:



I've been okay. I just took a long break from NL.
OK then.Nice to have you back.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by taiocol: 6:45pm On Nov 02, 2015
Thewhizzkid1:

Use uc browser pls.



That's what am Using
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 6:53pm On Nov 02, 2015
taiocol:




That's what am Using
Ok. When u open the article just scroll down towards the bottom of the article page. U will see some icons there. There is one for tweeting, sharing and a facebook icon for liking the article. U may see the tweet and share icon immediately but u may pls have to wait a little for the facebook like icon to appear. When it appears, you can click on it to like the article. Thanks for ur concern.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Millex(m): 7:00pm On Nov 02, 2015
Thewhizzkid1:

Thanks for your comment bro but you will have to wait till the winners are announced first, and then u contact the organizers, before u can feature it on ur blog. The article is supposed to be read from only that site and seeing it in another site is not good at all. Hope you understand. Thanks.
Oh no problem will wait then
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 8:31pm On Nov 02, 2015
Millex:
Oh no problem will wait then
Alright. Thanks.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by jargo89(m): 2:50pm On Nov 03, 2015
lomaxx:


You're biased in my opinion. I've noticed that utme candidates have a smoother medical school journey than those that have had a first degree. It doesn't mean they are immune from issues. First degree students usually feel they've seen it all. Believe me, that mentality is counterproductive. it's the same mentality repeat students have when repeating a class- seeing it all. And that's why they keep having issues.

Medical school training is enough to instill the foundation of maturity. It's not just about passing exams. Those that know, know.

Happy Sunday grin
Well I respect ur opinion; but I am not trying to create a first degree versus utme entry students. All I am saying is first degree students have a better advantage of handling medical school's pressure.

Nd for d saying of urs that utme students have a smoother journey in med school; I am sure u wont be suprised it I tell u that is very debatable (would love to be proved wrong).

Also, for the seen it all mentality, I can assured u [using myself as a case example (a small sample size, I know)], I was overawed after admission. So even if the seen it all mentality was dere b4 admission, it def didnt last long.

To cap it all, m not an advocate of any admission type. I just feel having a degree prepares u for d MENTAL rigours of med skul.

*sorry for the brackets in brackets smiley.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by jargo89(m): 3:05pm On Nov 03, 2015
Vcojuro:

That is a great observation Dr Lomax.
Seriously you are an emblem of creative thinking and I want other people to emulate you in such a way but all of us can't think in the same manner.
Imagine you spending 6years in mbbs together with assu strike, nma, johesu, resident doctors, internal strike, housemanship that is no longer certain coupled with nysc.
One would have wasted a lot of years doing mbbs.
I don't see any difference between Nigeria mbbs and US MD. I have gone through their curriculum everything is almost these same just that they are more clinically exposed than us.
Our method of admission into mbbs follows the United Kingdom pattern.
And until the UK authority says otherwise then why should we complain.
Where I was expecting complaint was the issue of funding and the facilities in our teaching hospital.
To me as regard the issue of maturity of med students and ability of med students of nowadays to cope academically.
I still believe that the very issue tunnels down to our admission process.
I believe if we admit virtually all med students on merit.
When I mean merit I mean those who are academically found worthy, thoswho can take sleepless nights reading, lots of materials without complaining then I believe we will have a very competent, sound and mature med student who will pass through med school without repeating any level.
You see one of the solution to the problem in our med school is the merit system put it in place and other things will follow.
Like the Yoruba says "what you are looking for in Sokoto town lies in your Sokoto(pocket)"
That's my opinion.
There's a lot wrong wit ur mail. But u got me lost when u said we shldnt change until the UK authority says so? Really? Does that sound right? M sure u blive we shldnt av changed our driving and monetary system. Owwwwh, and also u must blive we need to go back to the parliamentary system of govt. Bro, u might need to be reminded Nigeria got independent 1960, d UK authority dont control us.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by jargo89(m): 3:12pm On Nov 03, 2015
lomaxx:
The average time to finish medical school in Nigeria from year 1 is 7 years. (ASUU, NMA, ARD, JOHESU strike inclusive)

Housemanship is compulsory to be eligible for the MBBS degree. In other words, you cannot have MBBS without housemanship. Totals - 8 it 9 years, depending on how fast you get a place to do housemanship.



You will go for youth service to be eligible for permanent registration.

Total - 9 or 10 years.


Let's now add 5 years (ASUU strike inclusive)of undergraduate education in Anatomy/Biochemistry/Physiology/Microbiology etc


We're not ready for such policies.

I for don finish school since May, now it's next year. Because we don't have an educational system that works. It doesn't breed maturity. You'll end up having frustrated doctors that have been wearied by unecessary length of training.
I am sure u are gettin something wrong. But I am sure if such policies will b adopted, no med student will need to spend a year in d faculty of science learnin wat's been learned during the first degree. Also the number of years spent durin preclinicals will be reduced. Thus we lukin @ 4 years of studyin med. M sure graduates being frustrated due to bein weary shldnt be an issue.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by simba1: 5:21pm On Nov 03, 2015
jargo89:
Well I respect ur opinion; but I am not trying to create a first degree versus utme entry students. All I am saying is first degree students have a better advantage of handling medical school's pressure.

Nd for d saying of urs that utme students have a smoother journey in med school; I am sure u wont be suprised it I tell u that is very debatable (would love to be proved wrong).

Also, for the seen it all mentality, I can assured u [using myself as a case example (a small sample size, I know)], I was overawed after admission. So even if the seen it all mentality was dere b4 admission, it def didnt last long.

To cap it all, m not an advocate of any admission type. I just feel having a degree prepares u for d MENTAL rigours of med skul.

*sorry for the brackets in brackets smiley.
I AM WITH YOU BRO! RIDE ON!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 5:36pm On Nov 03, 2015
jargo89:
Well I respect ur opinion; but I am not trying to create a first degree versus utme entry students. All I am saying is first degree students have a better advantage of handling medical school's pressure.

Nd for d saying of urs that utme students have a smoother journey in med school; I am sure u wont be suprised it I tell u that is very debatable (would love to be proved wrong).

Also, for the seen it all mentality, I can assured u [using myself as a case example (a small sample size, I know)], I was overawed after admission. So even if the seen it all mentality was dere b4 admission, it def didnt last long.

To cap it all, m not an advocate of any admission type. I just feel having a degree prepares u for d MENTAL rigours of med skul.

*sorry for the brackets in brackets smiley.
Let's call a spade a spade. Don't judge matters based based on what you've passed through hence trying to attach any possible advantage. Be sincere, knowing fully well that a first degree prepares you for the mental rigours of med school, if u were to have your life rewound to the period u were to take jamb and you had two open choices to choose medicine or biochemistry(or anatomy, physiology, mcb) with the intent of going through DE to medicine, which will you choose?
To me, those who are ready and willing to be doctors will always be doctors. It does not matter the route you pass through.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by jargo89(m): 6:19pm On Nov 03, 2015
Thewhizzkid1:

Let's call a spade a spade. Don't judge matters based based on what you've passed through hence trying to attach any possible advantage. Be sincere, knowing fully well that a first degree prepares you for the mental rigours of med school, if u were to have your life rewound to the period u were to take jamb and you had two open choices to choose medicine or biochemistry(or anatomy, physiology, mcb) with the intent of going through DE to medicine, which will you choose?
To me, those who are ready and willing to be doctors will always be doctors. It does not matter the route you pass through.
It is ironic that you make you are making your jjudgement based on your experience and requiring me not to. As for me attaching more importance to admission through D.E., u cant be more wrong; I am not in charge of education in this country, thus am very sure my opinion doesnt count.

For the question u asked if I culd rewind bck my life and choosee my jamb again, I dont think thats neccesary cos I do rememba I chosed medicine then, and got admitted (I will leave u to guess what appund)

Am I more mature to handle med school? Yes. Am I sayin everybody shld take the same route? No, not even if I have d power to. Am I saying D.E. students are better than regular students? No.

All I am sayin, which am sure u got wrong, is havin a degree before (either by choice or not) makes u adapt quickly to med skul and its wahala.
If u are asked to pass thru a secondary school again, m sure u will find it easier than ur first try, doesnt mean u will get all A's in WAEC (perfect analogy)

Best we buried this D.E. or not ish. Its getting tedious smiley

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by muta1996(m): 6:24pm On Nov 03, 2015
» Medical Students Now To Spend 7 Years In Nigerian Universities «
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Thewhizzkid1(m): 6:39pm On Nov 03, 2015
jargo89:
It is ironic that you make you are making your jjudgement based on your experience and requiring me not to. As for me attaching more importance to admission through D.E., u cant be more wrong; I am not in charge of education in this country, thus am very sure my opinion doesnt count.

For the question u asked if I culd rewind bck my life and choosee my jamb again, I dont think thats neccesary cos I do rememba I chosed medicine then, and got admitted (I will leave u to guess what appund)

Am I more mature to handle med school? Yes. Am I sayin everybody shld take the same route? No, not even if I have d power to. Am I saying D.E. students are better than regular students? No.

All I am sayin, which am sure u got wrong, is havin a degree before (either by choice or not) makes u adapt quickly to med skul and its wahala.
If u are asked to pass thru a secondary school again, m sure u will find it easier than ur first try, doesnt mean u will get all A's in WAEC (perfect analogy)

Best we buried this D.E. or not ish. Its getting tedious smiley
It is not based on my experience but based on the general and supposed experience. Meanwhile as you've said, let's just bury the ish.
Much Respect!!

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by simba1: 7:02pm On Nov 03, 2015
MEDICAL SCHOOL NOW MINIMUM OF 7 YEARS IN NIGERIA- NUC.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Drguzzykola(m): 8:08pm On Nov 03, 2015
embarassed
simba1:
MEDICAL SCHOOL NOW MINIMUM OF 7 YEARS IN NIGERIA- NUC.
, hmmm, Hope they will amend the salary scale o, grin
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Drguzzykola(m): 8:10pm On Nov 03, 2015
muta1996:
» Medical Students Now To Spend 7 Years In Nigerian Universities «
source pls , if possible the link to the page
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by smartdave1: 8:36pm On Nov 03, 2015
Chisos!!!!!!
Medical school now #Seven year....
Seven year + three years of strike (ASUU, ARD, NMA, JOHESU etc) = Ten Years!!
God dey o
www.nairaland.com/2710541/medical-students-spend-7-years
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Klinee: 8:43pm On Nov 03, 2015
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by angiography(m): 9:33pm On Nov 03, 2015
smartdave1:
Chisos!!!!!!

Medical school now #Seven year....

Seven year + three years of strike (ASUU, ARD, NMA, JOHESU etc) = Ten Years!!

God dey o

www.nairaland.com/2710541/medical-students-spend-7-years
A friend of mine got into Medicine in 2007(in oau oo) and graduated in 2014 despite all the strikes and slowness of oau, he spent 6yrs, 9months. So, how did you fathom 3yrs of strike??...



I think it's time we stopped all this exaggeration

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by muta1996(m): 12:38am On Nov 04, 2015
Drguzzykola:
source pls , if possible the link to the page
Please check nairaland homepage
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by comfort48: 9:21am On Nov 04, 2015
hey! 7 years ke.I don old o for inside medical school.as a lady entering medical sch at d age of 24.I for dey wit my human physiology degree and do my masters.But seriously dis 7yrs is too much na.thankGod say I get first degree atleast I can work wit dat while in sch.guys lets nt loose hope cus 7yrs are just number.LOL.my passion for medicine will carry me tru.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by smartdave1: 9:34am On Nov 04, 2015
angiography:

A friend of mine got into Medicine in 2007(in oau oo) and graduated in 2014 despite all the strikes and slowness of oau, he spent 6yrs, 9months. So, how did you fathom 3yrs of strike??...



I think it's time we stopped all this exaggeration
That was what social media made us to believe.

Pardon my ignorance....
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Drdonzeez(m): 12:19pm On Nov 04, 2015
Drguzzykola:
embarassed, hmmm, Hope they will amend the salary scale o, grin
The field of medicine is all about humanitarian services to the populace..Anyways, the salary scale and Grade level may increase
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by charliejose: 1:13pm On Nov 04, 2015
NUC Approves Seven Year, Four Year MBBS/BDS Program in New Minimum Academic Standards
Posted: 04/Nov/2015
Following several stakeholders meetings in the last two years and as a prelude to the formal release of the New Minimum Academic benchmark (2015), the National universities Commission has approved relevant adjustments relating to Medical/ Dental schools.

Jude Chiedu of Medicalworldnigeria.com reports that a major change to essential components of the new curriculum expected to be in use from the 2016/2017 academic session is the approval of three alternative models viz;

i. A seven year MBBS/BDS programme that encompass a mandatory seamless four-year acquisition of the B.Sc. (Basic Medical Science) with interest in either Anatomy/Physiology/Biochemistry. At the end of seven years, students would have acquired the Bachelor of Basic Medical Science, Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery degrees. In case of the dental programmes, the students would have acquired a degree in Basic Dental Science and Bachelor of Dental Surgery.

ii. In order to allow for career change for interested non-medical health professionals, the Commission has also approved a four year programme leading to MBBS/BDS for interested and qualified graduates of Nursing, Pharmacology, Physiotherapy, Image Science, Paramedics, Anatomy, Physiology, Biochemistry and Pharmacology. It must be noted for such to be considered for admission they must have at the WAEC/NECO levels minimum credit scores in Mathematics, English, Physics, Chemistry and Biology at one sitting, prior to the admissions for their first degrees. They must also have a good CGPA.

iii. Admission into universities based on the current six year programme would be allowed to continue as suitable alternative based on the discretion of the University.

It should be noted and emphasized that all the above degrees have the Bachelor appellation as they remain undergraduate programmes.

For Specific periods of posting to the department of Family Medicine. The obvious implication here is that, the Universities should create the Department of Family Medicine following their due process.

The department of pharmacology would be redsignated to the department of pharmacology and therapeutics and is now expected to provide relevant basic clinical teaching and conduct relevant professional examination in Pharmacology. They will also be expected to provide relevant clinical teaching in Therapeutics.

According to the NUC, proprietors of medical and dental schools in Nigeria (both current and prospective) are requested to note the following implementing steps including relevant adjustments relating to accreditation of Medical /dental schools

From 1st September 2015, both current and prospective proprietors of Medical and Dental Schools should:
a. Write a letter to the Executive Secretary stating their intent and provide relevant information as available.
b. On receipt, (if NUC has no obvious reasons to disqualify the application), they would be sent a copy of the BMAS for MBBS/BDS and advised firmly to ensure that they are strictly complied with.
c. The setting up of medical schools is not an emergency exercise. To this end, prospective proprietors must own and have in place (prior to a request for a Resource Verification), a fully functional and well run tertiary type hospital.

In the circumstance of the above not being in place, consideration for an affiliation with a tertiary government owned institution may be given only when the said university owns a medical institution fully functional with a minimum of 150 beds and a rural health medical unit. (See Appendix 4 of the BMAS).

d. APre-clinical Accreditation would be expected to take place within two years of a positive Resource Verification.

Students can only sit for the second MBBS professional examination (Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry) when they have a successful preclinical accreditation. The preclinical accreditation would

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by simba1: 2:53pm On Nov 04, 2015
comfort48:
hey! 7 years ke.I don old o for inside medical school.as a lady entering medical sch at d age of 24.I for dey wit my human physiology degree and do my masters.But seriously dis 7yrs is too much na.thankGod say I get first degree atleast I can work wit dat while in sch.guys lets nt loose hope cus 7yrs are just number.LOL.my passion for medicine will carry me tru.
Pls, can I get ur contact, abeg?

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