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Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by anonimi: 7:16pm On Feb 21, 2016
papparatzzi2013:
What happened to the share of the FG? Will the state share have not been looted the same way the FG's own too was looted, if they have not collected it?

NOI was a failure. She was more interested in her dollar denominated salary than the economy of the nation.

She met a vibrant economy and left our economy in ruins and tatters.
Do you have a different meaning for "ruins and tatters"?
The following SAMPLES surely mean PROGRESS to fellow citizens whose brains have not been swept by APCshit's winchious broom, turning them into zombies.

QuotaSystem:
Apart from producing world standard cars that have carried our leaders for decades from the 504 to the 406 and the latest, Peugeot 805 unlike the cut and join vehicles Innoson is welding, PAN Kaduna has started production of the luxury cutting-edge 805 and 301. Another one from the 'backward North'.

Bad belle, it's allowed.



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Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by eLcastro(m): 7:16pm On Feb 21, 2016
nigerianvenom:
A finance minister whose addition of 16+6=24 is just a mere comedian
lol.,u heard dat too...dey think workin is speakin phoeni..juz ask pyhno
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by omonnakoda: 7:16pm On Feb 21, 2016
madridsta007:
I think your comment is quite inaccurate and hence unfair.

*NOI advised the government that some money should be kept aside as the oil prices may come down in the future. That is being proactive.
*NOI actually kept money aside following GEJ's approval. That is taking action.
*NOI was attacked by the governors-led by the APC governors and present APC chieftains who took her and the FG to court for withholding their money despite the warnings from the World Bank, IMF, CBN, NBS and NOI about impending oil prices doom.
*The Governors won the case in court and squandered what was released to them.
*NOI still kept the money accrued from then FG in the ECA.
*Buhari came and these same largely APC governors came and wailed that they did not have money to pay staff salaries.
*Buhari, who had claimed had met nothing on ground, did not probe these governors on their squandering habits and shared the money that NOI stored in the ECA.

Now Nigerians want to blame NOI. You see how silly many Nigerians are? Unless we leave out sentiments from national issues, we would be going around the same vicious circle, every time.

I have a feeling that the Government would soon reach out to her for advice in some capacity. When that happens, I would write a strong letter to her not to help. Nigerians are one of the most ungrateful people around and certainly do not deserve her support or influence.

As for comparing Kemi to NOI, please do not start up some humour on what is a serious matter. How can one in his right mind, compare Harvard to the University of East London- the worst university in the UK?
THE FG SHARE OF THE ECA IS 52% WHY DID SHE SPEND IT
Not only did she spend it by late 2014 The FG had to borrow $1 billion to fight Boko Haram
Well I am not comparing anyone or did I .Let us keep it short to avoid diversion. Which University dit Innoson attend ? It is irrelevant so do not compare Why are you bringing up comparison? and telling me not to I did not and clearly you wish to change the subject

The matter is simple Iweala was our worst Finance Minister

Even Ibori would be better


What was the state of the ECA when she entered office and when she left.
People continue talking about Governors when the FG share of that account is 52 %
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by LouisVanGaal(m): 7:17pm On Feb 21, 2016
eLcastro:
pipo won't learn.,beat bliv dat $2.1b is a scam..mnw m nt sayin dia wasn't lootin durin d arm deal biz...buh if indeed $2.1b was stolen..sumone wud hav bin givin jail term by now..or lemme rephrase dis govt can't juz recover our stolen moni..personally i don't think dey can evn kip d lil we gat nw...if FG had a go case bouh dat $2.1b scam dey blahin of dasuki wud hav bin in hard labour nw...y u think dey stl cukin up case files..oops.,it evn made FP 2 "we can't recover loots"
Am sure u didn't read that article well...u just digested the headline and jumped off...smh4u
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by excel101(m): 7:20pm On Feb 21, 2016
[quote author=LRNZH post=43122879][/quote]. How does a mere video interview got to do with comparison. We're tired of this rubbish, how does it correlates to performance? What about if their laudable economical blueprints doesnt affects the economy positively. These are all trash, we need results not grammar.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by LRNZH(op): 7:20pm On Feb 21, 2016
modath:
Just get ready for anonimi's forro assault for this ya kweshion.... cheesy cheesy

According to his pictoral ads......
Anonimi is a grassroots cartoon distributor at best grin cheesy tongue
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by huptin(m): 7:21pm On Feb 21, 2016
Snipes009:
Haha!!! Nice response! The guy na yeye boi. They think everybody's on their pedestal. I once helped one nairalander for some stuffs off here. When the guy met me (real life), and later knew my abode, the guy actually said "wow, I used to think no well-to-do person like yours is on Nairaland. Thank God I haven't abused you on a thread before". Looool! And what did the guy see? Just some couple cars in the compound and maybe my living room that he entered sha. So, pay this one no mind...
No need for this epistle sir.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by anonimi: 7:22pm On Feb 21, 2016
modath:
Facts & figures that only tell half & his side of bias stories! Issokay!!
It should be easy for you to provide facts & figures from reliable sources that tell the other half & your side of bias stories, not so huh
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by papparatzzi2013: 7:26pm On Feb 21, 2016
anonimi:
Do you have a different meaning for "ruins and tatters"?
The following SAMPLES surely mean PROGRESS to fellow citizens whose brains have not been swept by APCshit's winchious broom, turning them into zombies.





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Yes, we can see where we are now.

Jonah and his bandits such as NOI looted our commonwealth and ruined our once vibrant economy. Fact.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by madridsta007(m): 7:27pm On Feb 21, 2016
omonnakoda:
THE FG SHARE OF THE ECA IS 52% WHY DID SHE SPEND IT
Not only did she spend it by late 2014 The FG had to borrow $1 billion to fight Boko Haram
Well I am not comparing anyone or did I .Let us keep it short to avoid diversion. Which University dit Innoson attend ? It is irrelevant so do not compare Why are you bringing up comparison? and telling me not to I did not and clearly you wish to change the subject

The matter is simple Iweala was our worst Finance Minister

Even Ibori would be better


What was the state of the ECA when she entered office and when she left.
People continue talking about Governors when the FG share of that account is 52 %
If the share of the Government's ECA was taken or used by NOI, in any ILLEGAL way, the current Government would have SINCE made it public and asked for her arrest.

However, they can not as she acted within the ambit of the law and, thankfully, still has possession of documents and signed approvals of the ECA spend.

Ask yourself why the FG has used flimsy propaganda to chase her- propaganda which they have ceased to use, as she released facts to embarrass them?

She works for major international agencies- if there was any proof of theft against her, why has the government not issued an international arrest warrant via Interpol on her? These things have very simple international procedures, you see. The government can't because, understandably, aside the weak propaganda it feeds gullible Nigerians with, it has nothing in terms of facts against NOI.

The major problem with our present unitary system are the Governors, some of whom, have budgets larger than many African countries- according to a report by the BBC. Instead of Buhari using his assumed anti-corruption notoriety to pursue and investigate these ones, he however blessed them with a bail out.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by papparatzzi2013: 7:29pm On Feb 21, 2016
Marcelini:
Adeosun was the commissioner for finance in Ogun when the state allocation from the FG was at all time high, but left the state at great debt and economically less viable than states that earned less from the FG like Enugu state. Throw in Ogun's proximity to Lagos, and Adeosun's failure becomes even more glaring.

It's only in Nigeria tribally charged political arena that failures like Adeosun who couldn't fix small ogun, is given a bigger job of fixing Nigeria.
How shallow can you be?

The president just commissioned 40 projects financed by that debt. Those projects will keep making Ogun State the number 1 investment destination and most industrialized state in Nigeria.

Having debt is not a sin. Show me any developed country without sovereign debt. Just 1.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by LRNZH(op): 7:32pm On Feb 21, 2016
madridsta007:
If the share of the Government's ECA was taken or used by NOI, in any ILLEGAL way, the current Government would have SINCE made it public and asked for her arrest.

However, they can not as she acted within the ambit of the law and, thankfully, still has possession of documents and signed approvals of the ECA spend.

Ask yourself why the FG has used flimsy propaganda to chase her- propaganda which they have ceased to use, as she released facts to embarrass them?

She works for major international agencies- if there was any proof of theft against her, why has the government not issued an international arrest warrant via interpol on her?

The major problem with our present unitary system are the Governors, some of whom, have budgets larger than many African countries- according to a report by the BBC. Instead of Buhari using his assumed anti-corruption notoriety to pursue and investigate these ones, he however blessed them with a bail out.
LOL. Where do the monies being investigated and returned in Dasukigate, Nimasagate come from.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by eLcastro(m): 7:32pm On Feb 21, 2016
LouisVanGaal:
Am sure u didn't read that article well...u just digested the headline and jumped off...smh4u
..u brot up d $2.1b arm scam na 2 divert 4rm wah dis article is about...sayin d govz ask 4 d ECA cuz dey were sure it wud hav bin stolen...tryin 2 discredit NOI saving plans...no diff btwn u nd d real LouisVanGal sha...guess itz in u nd diz govt dna...alwayz tryna run away 4rm responsibilities
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by BALLOSKI: 7:32pm On Feb 21, 2016
dukie25:
Obasanjo recently said he wanted NOI to be Buhari's deputy. If you Ieave tribe outta it, you'd realise Kemi is poor man's Iweala.
read that page again. Obj wanted her cos he thinks BUHARI political leadership could bring out the best in her like she did under him. Right now, obj will be saying, "thank God she didn't accept the offer ". We know what would have become of her by now. BUHARI for no win with that woman.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by carboblanko(m): 7:32pm On Feb 21, 2016
mark3009:
What facts? You people should stop worshipping certificates and degrees if it does not translate to practical knowledge in tackling societal problems.
Spot on. And GEJ comes to mind here cheesy cheesy
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by madridsta007(m): 7:35pm On Feb 21, 2016
LRNZH:
LOL. Where do the monies being investigated and returned in Dasukigate, Nimasagate come from.
LOL.

This is how the Government uses propaganda to feed gullible Nigerians.

It says on Saharareporters, monies have been returned. Ask yourself why they are never specific with names and numbers. Please we all have brains to use and think.

Think with your brains and stop getting fooled by an inept government.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by santino09: 7:35pm On Feb 21, 2016
[quote author=PassingShot post=43123151]Even without watching the video, I will take Kemi or any other person in preference for the overhyped NOI.

Where was NOI who was the coordinating minister for the economy when Dasuki, CBN, Diezanni and those thieves masquerading as Service Chiefs were busy swallowing our common wealth?

Where was the paper heavy weight finance expert when tax relief and waivers were granted on luxury goods imported into the country?

Where was she when our SWF and ECA were being depleted?

If she had any honor while she held sway, she would have resigned honorably than watch on helplessly.

Ngizi was a scam!
So ngozi okojo iweala is now EFCC to look into dasuki or military spending? Continue regressing your cerebrum. Issorait.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by excel101(m): 7:37pm On Feb 21, 2016
papparatzzi2013:
How shallow can you be?

The president just commissioned 40 projects financed by that debt. Those projects will keep making Ogun State the number 1 investment destination and most industrialized state in Nigeria.

Having debt is not a sin. Show me any developed country without sovereign debt. Just 1.
. Wait until the projects are completed, cos they're still in the pipeline.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by omonnakoda: 7:38pm On Feb 21, 2016
madridsta007:
If the share of the Government's ECA was taken or used by NOI, in any ILLEGAL way, the current Government would have SINCE made it public and asked for her arrest.

However, they can not as she acted within the ambit of the law and, thankfully, still has possession of documents and signed approvals of the ECA spend.

Ask yourself why the FG has used flimsy propaganda to chase her- propaganda which they have ceased to use, as she released facts to embarrass them?

She works for major international agencies- if there was any proof of theft against her, why has the government not issued an international arrest warrant via Interpol on her? These things have very simple international procedures, you see. The government can't because, understandably, aside the weak propaganda it feeds gullible Nigerians with, it has nothing in terms of facts against NOI.

The major problem with our present unitary system are the Governors, some of whom, have budgets larger than many African countries- according to a report by the BBC. Instead of Buhari using his assumed anti-corruption notoriety to pursue and investigate these ones, he however blessed them with a bail out.
But it was illegal because it was not budgeted for, we all know this.Is that the only illegality? The ECA itself was unconstitutional so what are we talking about?.What about the Abacha money and raiding the CBN were those in the budget? Am I here to speak for the government or have I said I think this government is clean. You folk assume everyone is partisan like you. Well sorry to burst your bubble I am neutral and not a supporter of Buhari or Adeosun. I just know no one can be worse than Iweala she takes the Akara
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by santino09: 7:38pm On Feb 21, 2016
[quote author=PassingShot post=43123397]And what did Ngozi achieve for our economy despite unprecedented earnings during her time apart from "rebasing" that resulted in us becoming largest African economy ON PAPER?

Under her and GEJ, Nigeria had to borrow to pay salaries in March and April of 2015.
What did ngozi achieve? Incase you don't know Nigeria became biggest in economy in terms of GDP 2014(under NOI)
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by LouisVanGaal(m): 7:41pm On Feb 21, 2016
eLcastro:
..u brot up d $2.1b arm scam na 2 divert 4rm wah dis article is about...sayin d govz ask 4 d ECA cuz dey were sure it wud hav bin stolen...tryin 2 discredit NOI saving plans...no diff btwn u nd d real LouisVanGal sha...guess itz in u nd diz govt dna...alwayz tryna run away 4rm responsibilities
smh4u once again...Nigerian youth and blind loyalty
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by papparatzzi2013: 7:42pm On Feb 21, 2016
excel101:
. Wait until the projects are completed, cos they're still in the pipeline.
Bros, those projects have been commissioned by the President during his last visit to Ogun State.

I was in Abeokuta last week, I was very surprised at their road network. Their roads used to be very tiny.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by santino09: 7:42pm On Feb 21, 2016
[quote author=LRNZH post=43123705][b]If you understand the scientific method, you won't be stating this.

We have about 8 years track record of Ngozi as finance minister all under high to very high oil prices. Nigeria failed to diversify it's oil dependent, import based economy under her. That is enough to draw a conclusion that Ngozi cannot manage a economy in surplus times.

Kemi inherited one of the worst economies in recent times with tanked oil price and forex drain from fighting insurgency in the North-East. She is yet to even spend 1 year on the job. It is too early to judge her performance especially since her situation is more challenging than Ngozi's.

But from the videos above, it is clear that Ngozi's temperament is not fit for a finance minister in difficult times.

Scientific method? A economy? Ah brother change your lifestyle oooo.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by modath(f): 7:43pm On Feb 21, 2016
francizy:
By the way, you talked about anonimi being biased, never seen you being objective either... huh huh huh
I will never claim to be non partisan but i have the sense not to ever defend the indefensible..

I also gracefully keep mute when I know the discuss won't serve the country well but some of here have decided to toe a path that they won't even glance sideways from to check what else is out there!! undecided
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by Nobody: 7:45pm On Feb 21, 2016
No need for you to show your dumbness. The epistle is meant for your type. Now that u have got the memo, poof!

huptin:
No need for this epistle sir.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by XaintJoel20: 7:47pm On Feb 21, 2016
PassingShot:
If my living standard qualifies as "living in poverty" I'll pray and hope "the poverty" continues and even progress.
I respect your matured and civilized response...
#Thanks...
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by huptin(m): 7:47pm On Feb 21, 2016
Snipes009:
No need for you to show your dumbness. The epistle is meant for your type. Now that u have got the memo, poof!
You are a big fool. Some one with the kind of existence you painted will never be this uncouth and uncultured you just betrayed your gutter existence.Crazy idiot.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by toprealman: 7:48pm On Feb 21, 2016
I am for fresh blood in the system....young ones at that. The butter truth us that the free fall of the naira is not helping thus cause. I do not like Ngozi for anything. She knows her job...like Mourinho does, and like him she us a big head.
Unfortunately I am beginning to loose confidence in her. Kemi needs to collaborate extensively, consult as many pris as possible. I just font like thus particular mountain..... we need to act fast.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by LRNZH(op): 7:49pm On Feb 21, 2016
santino09:
Scientific method? A economy? Ah brother change your lifestyle oooo.
So you don't know that Economics is a Social Science. It applies scientific methods to social welfare issues.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by madridsta007(m): 7:53pm On Feb 21, 2016
omonnakoda:
But it was illegal because it was not budgeted for, we all know this.Is that the only illegality? The ECA itself was unconstitutional so what are we talking about?.What about the Abacha money and raiding the CBN were those in the budget? Am I here to speak for the government or have I said I think this government is clean. You folk assume everyone is partisan like you. Well sorry to burst your bubble I am neutral and not a supporter of Buhari or Adeosun. I just know no one can be worse than Iweala she takes the Akara
I am not partisan, my friend. I find these comparisons quite inane and unnecessary. The ECA was funds put aside for 'rainy days'. You see it is all about wisdom. Are you a Christian? Do you know that putting away excess savings for later days, was the concept Joseph used in saving Egypt from famine? Norway has about $700bn in a sovereign fund. They had started saving decades ago, hence theirs is that much. Most oil producing countries have such funds; hence, out of 40 oil producing countries or so, you find Nigeria only wailing about the drop in oil prices. The ECA might have been unconstitutional, but it was common-sense. Your governors messed that common sense reasoning up, and to hang their mess on NOI is simply ridiculous.
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by modath(f): 7:53pm On Feb 21, 2016
anonimi:
It should be easy for you to provide facts & figures from reliable sources that tell the other half & your side of bias stories, not so huh
I am not into "Try hard" in order to "browbeat" people into aligning with my bias, most people aren't daft, we are ALL sentimental though but most don't need to be spoon fed, they can make their own deductions from course of events.....

If indeed the "Forros" served their purpose like you intended, the narrative today would be different...
Re: Kemi Adeosun Vs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Video Comparison by Remii(m): 7:53pm On Feb 21, 2016
madridsta007:
Ask Buhari which funds did he share out to the governors as 'bail out' and from what funds was he using to junket around the world. And meanwhile, the money that Buhari shared was in dollars.

The money NOI saved.

Is our partisanship in Nigeria this full of hate that we find it hard to be objective? Serious?
. Deziani saved it, okonjo would have shared it or lent it to dasuki, you know that there was no TSA then so she didn't know that money existed
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