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Eddygourdo:
for a kid who believes the anus of another man is a possy, i am not surprised you judge intelligence via the grammar spoken nor the manner the grammar was presented. my life acheievments you would never reach cos of your orientation. this is you who havent gotten enough money to survive in the university where you are studying fishery . kiddo don't make me go all kanye on you. leave this thread as this isnt a dicussion on romance and someone asimilar to buhari whose only certificate is his nepa bill should not comment. no scram

Eddygourdo:
for a kid who believes the anus of another man is a possy, i am not surprised you judge intelligence via the grammar spoken nor the manner the grammar was presented. my life acheievments you would never reach cos of your orientation. this is you who havent gotten enough money to survive in the university where you are studying fishery . kiddo don't make me go all kanye on you. leave this thread as this isnt a dicussion on romance and someone asimilar to buhari whose only certificate is his nepa bill should not comment. no scram

durentdbiitch:
When i see people like this, i thank my parents who sent me to school.
Valeriansteel pls shun dis dude, he's as dumb as his thread.

postmann:
Bros take it easy. Show some mercy!

Eddygourdo:
we also thank them,. when you graduate , then you contribute to the thread. go and get a CGPA first. oya scram away from here

durentdbiitch:
what do u knw is d meanin of CGPA? LOL. If you're truly a graduate then this country's educational system is at stake.

durentdbiitch:
The Amount Ignorance on dis thread is alarming!! Lik fearlesschicken wud say "So many educated illiterates here"


Well, i no even get strength to argue but whether we like it or not, Homosexual and feminist rights are comin to nigeria. Its only a matter of TIME.


Oh one day you'd wake up, turn on ur TV screen and see two men on d "church" altar getting married, mak sure u don't die of High blood pressure.

Lezzlie:
Jose, Jose, Jose?? How many time did I call?

One of the reasons Angelina Markel opened the gates to Islamic extremists is to grow the German population to maintain its economic lead in Europe (hoping at the odds of cultural assimilation will come to play in her favour) and keep pace away from Britain which is tailgating Germany in economy!!!

Remember, British isn't pro EU at heart but she's the most liberal in assimilation to foreign immigrants from Asia, Caribbean and Africa. London have more foreign foreigners or blacks than Britons!!!

The West are under serious population decline and under technological threat from China which is growing in population (she just rectified the law for single child policy)

With Asia, south America growing economically and technologically, Africa remains the last milking cow the West will hang onto.

Remember world war 2 ?

Lezzlie:
gays need help and gender correctional therapy, not promotion.

Homosexuals are criminals in Nigeria and nothing changes that. The laws of this great country cannot be reenacted on the pages of Nairaland.

BBC carried out a comprehensive and exhaustive survey in Nigeria and a whopping 89% say no to anal invasion, rectum banditry and the excavation of faeces by the phallus.

Every law abiding citizen of Nigeria is mandated by law to flush out all Fagggots to the nearest sewage-dentention pit!!!

It is your civic responsibility!!!

Eddygourdo:
for a kid who believes the anus of another man is a possy, i am not surprised you judge intelligence via the grammar spoken nor the manner the grammar was presented. my life acheievments you would never reach cos of your orientation. this is you who havent gotten enough money to survive in the university where you are studying fishery . kiddo don't make me go all kanye on you. leave this thread as this isnt a dicussion on romance and someone asimilar to buhari whose only certificate is his nepa bill should not comment. no scram

joseph1832:
Hmm. Now I didn't think of that

Lezzlie:
Bro, it is!!!

The West isn't some benevolent charity outlet!!!

For every act of kindness from any Western nation is the enthronement of its demand of foreign policy often in the guise of its huge multinational companies.

Feminism is destroying Europe and America. Their women are hitting the menopausal age faster than ever, their marriages are crumpling, ivf is failing, population is declining, China and Russia is breathing down their necks.

And no African has taken the time to define what feminism is in its true concept and objective!!!

Until we can decipher the device, our intelligent fools and cultural minions will continue selling their souls in exchange for a concept they would neither benefit from or understand.

joseph1832:
I just have to say ouch! To the emboldened.

Eddygourdo:
you are more grounded in history and yet you cannot understand the same history you gobble down with respect to its context. [s]it hurts me when i see people talk about ignorance to their betters[/s]

Eddygourdo:
how many books have you read or written. i can give you my name and you can google it to see my contribution to humanity intellectuallly on diverse research interests. even a fool can study history. i have been there and done that but unfortunately you can even understand that wikipedia history you keep peddling about

Eddygourdo:
you raise names of historical african figures that we reported to be gay and yet you do not see the folly in your examples , how could the activities of one or two persons suddenly reflect the entire african culture

darkenedrebel:
In ancient Yoruba Kingdom they were called adofuro
In precolonial Hausa/Fulani, they were known as Yan daudu

In old Buganda Kingdom(part of modern day Uganda) King Mwanga II was an open gay along with many others that ranked below his helm.

The Dagaabaa people of Burkina Faso held the jessies in high esteem...no wonder they had some sort of unspoken monopoly in theophany.

Have you heard of Nyankh-Khnum and Khnum-hotep? or the Siwa Oasis in Egypt?

Eddygourdo:
If you were truly of very sound mind you would have brought facts of gay mariages in african culture, you should have brought evidences of openly gay sexual practices in african cultures, please facts and figures of the yoruba culture which is well reported in history and their gay practices , do that with other tribes in africa. tell us the marital rights followed, how exactly they accommodated gay behaviour

Eddygourdo:
i will tell you on some tribes to school you but only after you have proved that you are worth any salt asides speaking incoherent grammar

Eddygourdo:
plus if i truly open a thread of my area of expertise , i will speak and speak till the tenth page and you wont be able to contribute a "was" to the thread , so watch your mouth while you call your better ignorant .

Lezzlie:
Bro, it is!!!

The West isn't some benevolent charity outlet!!!

For every act of kindness from any Western nation is the enthronement of its demand of foreign policy often in the guise of its huge multinational companies.

Feminism is destroying Europe and America. Their women are hitting the menopausal age faster than ever, their marriages are crumpling, ivf is failing, population is declining, China and Russia is breathing down their necks.

And no African has taken the time to define what feminism is in its true concept and objective!!!

Until we can decipher the device, our intelligent fools and cultural minions will continue selling their souls in exchange for a concept they would neither benefit from or understand.

Eddygourdo:
i avoid talking to him because he is a homosexual and thus pity him knowing the suffering his lovers put his body through , as well as the anal cancer he is courting via his behaviour. thus i wonder why he feels it necessary to mention me . this is a kid in the university who has no CGPA. i prefer to discuss issues though and would not respond to him anymore lest he takes my response to be interest in his homosexual self.

pinceprinz:
Basically on point mate, but the fact is most of these sick psychos are just clowns forcing social lobotomies , most would rather hide under the safety and pleasures of their homes only to come online to advertise their plight...

However, my worry is not on the demented souls, they won't change anyway; they're damned! Let's talk rather about vitalising the young , fresh naive minds instead. Inoculate and vaccinate em so they won't get attracted to this vampire paradigm, absorb it as a credible social norm in our black Nigeria, while being given the pseudo impression such allowance is a right step towards accrediting the global village campaign the West are giving the hottest campaign not knowing its a trap to continue milking us dry while believing we are one and united in every possible facet; we've been fooled enough - We won't be here forever!

joseph1832:
Well that's still a mystery as everything most of these feminist bring forward is shrouded in falsehood and also a means to propel their individual aims to the world.

Feminism and homosexuality, as far as I'm concerned is still very alien to the African man and even more alien to the nigerian man, who is very traditional and also very religious, and both are oppose the homosexuality and feminism.

I always tell the homos here to come out from social media and stage a protest, let's see if their own neighbors will not stone them to death. Nairaland has provided a safe haven for them to litter this place with their sexuality, due to its policy of anonymity. Have you asked yourself why these so called gay advocates don't go to their own facebook and instagram pages to declare their support for homosexuality? Or even come out as homosexuals?

darkenedrebel:
If you turn into a notepad now, I would write a 400 word thesis on any topic in Art and humanities on you...stop convulsing because I proved your assertions were farce...I find it puerile when people resort to usage of pejorative terms albeit under-the-rose whenever someone contradicts what they overtime have thought to be indubitable facts...if this was the mindset the likes of Andrew Wiles or Grigori Perelman had, they wouldn't have achieved what they did...

I see you've chosen to use deflective tactics as smoke screen to disguise the fact that you have nothing pertinent to say...



This is exactly what kiddos do when flaws in their parameters have been singled out - they begin babbling unintelligibly...
and yes, drop a link to your so-called books and researches that are on the internet...



You lack wits...so you expect me to list out all of the gay marriages in precolonial Africa before you accept that it isn't some Western invention?.

and I didn't list one or two people - I gave you various instances that nulled your false and ignorant claims that homosexuality was imported to Africa by the White Man...you must not have seen where I gave you examples...Lemme repost...



•••We also have the Zante warriors of Sudan that married young men and even paid bride price...

•••Same with the Khoikhoi people of South Africa

•••The San people of Zimbabwe in their paintings depicted men having anāl sex...

•••You still want proof? Homosexuality was a prevalent theme in the Nzima community in Ghana...

•••Tranvestism was also practiced in Madagascar and Ethiopia.

•••The Pangwe people of Cameroon also had same-sex marriage....

I don't have the energy to trade words with those that think they are omniscient when in fact they know nothing, but Imma try to bring you up to speed:-

Before the Portuguese(who were the first to explore the African continent) landed on our soil - Africans, except inhabitants of Ancient Egypt, Kush, Axum, Numidia and Nubia weren't as civilized as the rest of the world... They didn't have papyrus like the Egyptians or gigantic pyramids; neither did they care to document anything - all they did was farm, fish, hunt and war with neighbouring shanties...
They were also not painters and were rarely involved in Arts(save for sculptures and Clay work which were in most cases used for religious purposes)

My point exactly is that we never jotted majority of what went down in our society either via literal or artistic media...neither were we like the Romans and Greeks who had literati, orators and whatnot - thus, majority of what transpired(like homosexuality) were unwittingly not documented which is why it seems so abstruse when you try to ferret them out purring over our historical records...

Remember I told you the Portuguese were the first explorers? now look at what those so-called white men said after they witnessed the same-sex marriage in Congo - According to history, they labelled it "unnatural damnation"

Andrew Battell who was an English traveller in the 1590s, also wrote this in his memoirs about the Imbangala people of Angola :- "They are beastly in their living, for they have men in women's apparel, whom they keep among their wives."[/u]

Can you now see that your argument has been totally flawed when you say Homosexuality was an imported commodity?

Kindly visit a well-stocked public library or subscribe to Britannica.com and stop feigning knowledge...



I gave you instances when I mentioned Nyankh-Khnum and Khnum-hotep...and also the Siwa Oasis along with many other examples...your dyslexia cannot be beholden to me...



My posts were coherent and crisp and clear... I'm not to be blamed for your limited vocabulary pool...



Like I said, you know nought about precolonial homosexuality in Africa so stop trying to be clever by half...if you want sycophants that'd blow bubbles in your āss and agree to your false claims then perhaps you shouldn't have put it up for debate on a public forum.

Nota Bene: only an unintelligent person takes offence when the word 'ignorant' is used to describe him or her... you know why? because he out of ego thinks he is an island of knowledge whereas he knows nowt...
An intelligent person on the other hand leverages it to his advantage and uses it as a learning opportunity.

Happy Sunday....

pinceprinz:
Basically on point mate, but the fact is most of these sick psychos are just clowns forcing social lobotomies , most would rather hide under the safety and pleasures of their homes only to come online to advertise their plight...

However, my worry is not on the demented souls, they won't change anyway; they're damned! Let's talk rather about vitalising the young , fresh naive minds instead. Inoculate and vaccinate em so they won't get attracted to this vampire paradigm, absorb it as a credible social norm in our black Nigeria, while being given the pseudo impression such allowance is a right step towards accrediting the global village campaign the West are giving the hottest campaign not knowing its a trap to continue milking us dry while believing we are one and united in every possible facet; we've been fooled enough - We won't be here forever!

Eddygourdo:
to read up on history and accept it without considering the contexts of the reporting or the reported is a crime , you mention cases and i also tell you cases that bordered on homosexuality. the cases you mentioned where they homosexual relations based on love and expression or based on cultural and supernatural beliefs albeit wrong.

some tribes in papua new guinea and the aboriginals practice homosexual behavior but with a strict cultural and belief based undertone. the belief is that the boys ae born without sperms and thus the adult males are expected to seed them .

this is a belief and thus the practice, do they practice that in respect to love or expression? you mention instances in the dark ages when the africans killed twins in belief it was a mistake of nature , or when human sacrifices were rife ?

did you bother to understand the context of those time periods to understand why that happened ? the old Egyptians kept men sex slaves and that was an expression of love or dominion on a slave.

mr man do not claim what you dont know or read without knowing, go and look up those examples and come and speak to me as an academic who can dis cypher intelligence from data. you cannot just give a resorting on facts you must substantiate it.

please i hope i didnt read that africans were cryptic, maybe you need to read the about the human libraries of sudan and Senegal , the tribe who never bothered to write history , but left it to the exclusive preserve of the knowledge keepers.

go and read up on those cases you have mentioned and the context of their homosexual practice. when you have done that come and tell me in one instance where it was a generally accepted view that men fell in love and married purely on love or expressions.

mind you even in igbo land women have historically married other women, but i wont tell you the reason or the cultural justification of that very act , i will simply report it as evidence of gay marriage in Africa like you did and tell you that it also happened in your village.

don't you marvel at urself sometimes ?

darkenedrebel:
If you turn into a notepad now, I would write a 400 word thesis on any topic in Art and humanities on you...stop convulsing because I proved your assertions were farce...I find it puerile when people resort to usage of pejorative terms albeit under-the-rose whenever someone contradicts what they overtime have thought to be indubitable facts...if this was the mindset the likes of Andrew Wiles or Grigori Perelman had, they wouldn't have achieved what they did...

I see you've chosen to use deflective tactics as smoke screen to disguise the fact that you have nothing pertinent to say...



This is exactly what kiddos do when flaws in their parameters have been singled out - they begin babbling unintelligibly...
and yes, drop a link to your so-called books and researches that are on the internet...



You lack wits...so you expect me to list out all of the gay marriages in precolonial Africa before you accept that it isn't some Western invention?.

and I didn't list one or two people - I gave you various instances that nulled your false and ignorant claims that homosexuality was imported to Africa by the White Man...you must not have seen where I gave you examples...Lemme repost...



•••We also have the Zante warriors of Sudan that married young men and even paid bride price...

•••Same with the Khoikhoi people of South Africa

•••The San people of Zimbabwe in their paintings depicted men having anāl sex...

•••You still want proof? Homosexuality was a prevalent theme in the Nzima community in Ghana...

•••Tranvestism was also practiced in Madagascar and Ethiopia.

•••The Pangwe people of Cameroon also had same-sex marriage....

I don't have the energy to trade words with those that think they are omniscient when in fact they know nothing, but Imma try to bring you up to speed:-

Before the Portuguese(who were the first to explore the African continent) landed on our soil - Africans, except inhabitants of Ancient Egypt, Kush, Axum, Numidia and Nubia weren't as civilized as the rest of the world... They didn't have papyrus like the Egyptians or gigantic pyramids; neither did they care to document anything - all they did was farm, fish, hunt and war with neighbouring shanties...
They were also not painters and were rarely involved in Arts(save for sculptures and Clay work which were in most cases used for religious purposes)

My point exactly is that we never jotted majority of what went down in our society either via literal or artistic media...neither were we like the Romans and Greeks who had literati, orators and whatnot - thus, majority of what transpired(like homosexuality) were unwittingly not documented which is why it seems so abstruse when you try to ferret them out purring over our historical records...

Remember I told you the Portuguese were the first explorers? now look at what those so-called white men said after they witnessed the same-sex marriage in Congo - According to history, they labelled it "unnatural damnation"

Andrew Battell who was an English traveller in the 1590s, also wrote this in his memoirs about the Imbangala people of Angola :- "They are beastly in their living, for they have men in women's apparel, whom they keep among their wives."[/u]

Can you now see that your argument has been totally flawed when you say Homosexuality was an imported commodity?

Kindly visit a well-stocked public library or subscribe to Britannica.com and stop feigning knowledge...



I gave you instances when I mentioned Nyankh-Khnum and Khnum-hotep...and also the Siwa Oasis along with many other examples...your dyslexia cannot be beholden to me...



My posts were coherent and crisp and clear... I'm not to be blamed for your limited vocabulary pool...



Like I said, you know nought about precolonial homosexuality in Africa so stop trying to be clever by half...if you want sycophants that'd blow bubbles in your āss and agree to your false claims then perhaps you shouldn't have put it up for debate on a public forum.

Nota Bene: only an unintelligent person takes offence when the word 'ignorant' is used to describe him or her... you know why? because he out of ego thinks he is an island of knowledge whereas he knows nowt...
An intelligent person on the other hand leverages it to his advantage and uses it as a learning opportunity.

Happy Sunday....

darkenedrebel:
I've got just one question to ask in order to clear the air:-

•Are you trying to suggest that there were no Gays, lesbians and transvestites in Africa before the Age of Discovery in the 15th century, or before the Phoenicians explored North Africa, or even before contacts with Europeans and colonialism?...
Are you trying to imply that since time began, all Africans had been straight until the Westerners indoctrinated homosexuality?

A simple yes or no would suffice...

Eddygourdo:
there where homosexual behaviour , this existed in various contexts, some did that for ritual purposes as in a particular culture i wont mention , that was done on the occasion of cleansing a sacrificed person whom was forgiven, and thus didnt want him to pass on his cursed personality to future children. the chief priest would do that to him to cleanse him and protect his unfathered children from belonging to the sacrificed gods.

there was homosexual behaviour with respect to the dark ages and beliefs that existed then.

the answer is yes there where but in a strict cultural or belief context and never on love.

mind you hat post coloniation era, the pervert colonialist practised such on some men in their care, this is repeoted in some climes.

joseph1832:
Well that's still a mystery as everything most of these feminist bring forward is shrouded in falsehood and also a means to propel their individual aims to the world.

Feminism and homosexuality, as far as I'm concerned is still very alien to the African man and even more alien to the nigerian man, who is very traditional and also very religious, and both are oppose the homosexuality and feminism.

I always tell the homos here to come out from social media and stage a protest, let's see if their own neighbors will not stone them to death. Nairaland has provided a safe haven for them to litter this place with their sexuality, due to its policy of anonymity. Have you asked yourself why these so called gay advocates don't go to their own facebook and instagram pages to declare their support for homosexuality? Or even come out as homosexuals?

darkenedrebel:
All I asked for was a yes or no answer not chronicles...

Now I can say with strut that you are indeed an acute ignoramus for concluding that Africa was void of LGBTs before the emergence of the Europeans...

I've indulged you enough and I'll leave you with your beliefs folly... I expect no more mentions from you concerning this issue...goodbye...

Eddygourdo:
[s]and shamefully the history dullard departs.
listen if you have any degree , please dash it to the akara seller, truly you are a typical african student, copy and paste , cram and pour.

absolute naught abilty to analyze nor comprehend. too bad sha . the failed nigerian educational system at work producing its finest who are experts is swallowing and vomiting without any form of chewing.

to those you have been decieving to hold any water , YOU ARE EMPTY AND WE BOTH KNOW IT. goodbye[/s]

Eddygourdo:
please tell that to darken.rebel and the other wannabe. by their understanding you are ignorant and uneducated because you are saying such and not agreeing to the western propaganda.

every thing said there is on point and yet its these same people we are listening to and following their beliefs when its clearly destroying them. what you said in one post pleases my heart the most because it appears they dont realize this yet , that the same ideals they peddle in the media to africans are in minority opinion and acceptance in their lands .

their media never truly reflect the truth of situations.

My brother the message is simple. Africa is enslaved!!!

Our own history was bequeathed to us by the penning and dictates of the West. And we threw our oral history of unblemished account devoid of all political motives out the door!

Any African who doesn't know that the "truth" is the first casuality of war doesn't deserve to be alive!!!

After the defeat of colonialism, African history was written in jornals and memoirs like a movie script soothing the theme of the white man.

We read in their language, study in their language, that is the subtle subjugation of our mind, intellect and spirit.

Homosexuality being African is a farce!!! It was seen as a taboo and an abhorrence!!!

Of course the practice of a widowed Igbo woman who married another woman to bear her male children can be cited as the practice giving acquiescence to homosexuality

darkenedrebel:
You started out reasonably like an intelligent fellow, then after getting shellacked with facts that debunked your namby-pamby nonsense, you resorted to diatribe(a tactic by unintelligent people when they have completely run out of ideas)

You even went as far as claiming LGBTs were not present in Africa before colonization despite the evidence laid bare before you...

I have every right to call you an acute möron - a one year old gibbon would comprehend and process information 3 times better and faster than you do...

I've told you to stop mentioning my monicker - I can see you are suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome after losing a debate woefully
Go jazz up your knowledge and stop bovvering me nigga!..

Lezzlie:
My brother the message is simple. Africa is enslaved!!!

Our own history was bequeathed to us by the penning and dictates of the West. And we threw our oral history of unblemished account devoid of all political motives out the door!

Any African who doesn't know that the "truth" is the first casuality of war doesn't deserve to be alive!!!

After the defeat of colonialism, African history was written in jornals and memoirs like a movie script soothing the theme of the white man.

We read in their language, study in their language, that is the subtle subjugation of our mind, intellect and spirit.

Homosexuality being African is a farce!!! It was seen as a taboo and an abhorrence!!!

[b]Of course the practice of a widowed Igbo woman who married another woman to bear her male children can be cited as the practice giving acquiescence to homosexuality [/b]

Eddygourdo:
thank you for the above, i doubt that nitwit darken.rebel knows about that. we did it in igbo land and yet we know what that was all about . its was a cultural practise and never meant gay marriage between the two women. but these people piont at that as part of their evidences of historical african homosexual practise.

if you read some of the rubbish on the internet you could see a representation of the above highlight as evidence of homosexual relation without any mention of cultural context or belief.

then one fellow with limited education and reasoning will come paste it here with huge grammar to boot , in proof of african historical homosexuality.

oh daymmmmm