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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by Babysho(m): 8:41pm On Jul 01, 2016
ChristianHeny:
God has proved himself through his creations, each of which is wonderfully structured/engineered to fit its habitat. How can this millions of millions of creation be a random event? God will help you.

You have hit the nail on the head.

To those that don't believe in God because they cannot see him, can't they see his creations and their unexplainable surfacing . The moon, the stars and the sun haven't been claimed to be created by any of the scientists yet they keep studying the galaxy( if someone created this things wouldn't it be written in one 12000 B.C science scroll).

But God says he created this things and he gave a reasonable creation process even if it's unbelievable by some but at least he claimed his creation. I think it's enough to believe that there is God.

So lets come to reality...I've heard about the Big Bang. Bull!....my question is--Can fire suddenly start on wet land where one didn't ignite it?
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:42pm On Jul 01, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


I'm not debating if there's no God or not, I've read through your long and endless arguments you have in his favour, what I am debating with you is your point about someone making the right choice by believing in Yahweh, so my question still stands bro,
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HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE?
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have you tried all 5000 gods before coming to that conclusion? or did you (like most Christians) just choose one and stick with it while hoping you're right?
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how are you sure Yahweh is the ONE TRUE GOD?
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stay on topic and stop moving like a damn dry leaf on water

I just told you by faith . Do you understand English at all ?

There are close to 5,000 religions not gods . Some gods were made out of ignorance while the eternal creator has different concepts developed by different religions .

There is only one true God - Yahweh , Yeshua and Ruach Hakodesh

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by MEILYN(m): 8:43pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I love mortifying people like you with facts . cool
And that made him Atheist? Jeez, you better get yourself Educated. Hitler was not an Atheist, he believed in a God. It might not be the Christian God, but Hitler believed in the existence of a God.

Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:45pm On Jul 01, 2016
MEILYN:
And that made him Atheist? Jeez, you better get yourself Educated. Hitler was not an Atheist, he believed in a God. It might not be the Christian God, but Hitler believed in the existence of a God.

He believed he was god ! Read the excerpt , cogitate on it . wink

Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by Afrokan(m): 8:45pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


There is no proof this story happened . Stop lying
There is no proof that mary didnt have an affair with another man and blamed the pregnancy on God. You didnt ask for proof then but you asking for proof from me
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by MEILYN(m): 8:47pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I just told you by faith . Do you understand English at all ?

There are close to 5,000 religions not gods . Some gods were made out of ignorance while the eternal creator has different concepts developed by different religions .

There is only one true God - Yahweh , Yeshua and Ruach Hakodesh
Nonsense! And you know this because?
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by MEILYN(m): 8:49pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


He believed he was god ! Read the excerpt , cogitate on it . wink
I should Read what your screenshot says and ignore mine? You see why there's a problem here? Lol... Mine says he was not an Atheist and I choose to go with that...

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:50pm On Jul 01, 2016
MEILYN:
Nonsense! And you know this because?

I just said faith . What is wrong with you people ? Do you skip school to be on Nairaland or what ?

I've got jokes too cool
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:52pm On Jul 01, 2016
MEILYN:
I should Read what your screenshot says and ignore mine? You see why there's a problem here? Lol... Mine says he was not an Atheist and I choose to go with that...

If you mean you have chosen the path of ignorance and delusion , I can't stop you . I need you to entertain me .

**Let's get this party started

cool .
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by Blessograo(f): 8:54pm On Jul 01, 2016
iamDiabolic:
Am not an atheist, though most people see me as thiest (but not a religious one though) just attending church for the sake of attending,but deep in my mind am an agnostic.but with kinda things I go through might end up being an atheist, because I don't even feel the if any God exist, cause I have not even felt him before, I watch people catch holy ghost and testifying to seeing angels but not even have I had a dream bout one before. We just have to keep worshiping though we shouldn't believe what we can see,but we worship him due to fear of the unknown.

Sometimes I even pray that if he exist he should show at least show himself in a dream or through a pastor,but he still never show himself to me,he doesn't have any message for me,damn who TF is he,we should keep worshipping him cause he we were told fairytale about one stupid hell they keep threatening us with.

Me and my friends once attended a night vigil,when the pastor was touching all of them head they kept falling (in my mind I was laughing at their funny charade), when it got to my time I didn't fall, I didn't even move back as he was trying to force me to maybe fall, since then i no attend the yeye church.

What am trying to drive at is am beginning to doubt the existence of God and if he doesn't show himself to me one of this days, then I might graduate into an atheist. Mind you oh yea preachers and gullible ones I don't need your preaching and bible verses. I have heard enough of that.
I'm not a preacher but I just hope and pray that you experience him in one way one day, and ill keep praying for you, he loves you no matter what you think of him and he's waiting on you to love him too, mind you , you cannot live in sin and ask that grace should abound cos its not possible, you don't believe in him and even the little or great he has done for you, you don't appreciate it because you feel its just normal. The grace of sleeping and waking to death is not just science because even me as a medical student, immunology, physiology or pathophysiology has few answers to why happenes to the human body, he that created us knows more about us. He awaits you to return his love back and nothing more, the devil has a way of twisting our minds and reasoning and one thing I know as someone who is in China, a country where you don't have the opportunity to serve God freely is that when you get to places like this you will miss just the gathering of the children of God not to talk more of your fellowship with him. I wish you a happy life but do not give up on God. He holds on to somethings because he knows we might not understand his reason for somethings until we are wise enough to understand. You don't expect to tune your tv to AIT and hear from NTA, the sake way you expect to hear from God yet you don't believe him nor ready to believe. I will keep you in my prayers. Be happy and be wise.

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by ultra100(f): 8:57pm On Jul 01, 2016
God do really exist, its just that u have not sincerely asked him to reveal itself to u.I am a living witness to this.There was a time I was in my room with a visitor, then I saw one bright light that entered my room, immediately, I bowed down and couldn't look up and was crying that he should forgive me.The next thing I knew was that I started revealing the secret aspect of the person that was in my room.After I was relieved, my visitor told me that all I said was true.Secondly, I committed one sin at a time like that, and I was so sad, I prayed and fasted for forgiveness.Later that week on Sunday, the pastor of my church revealed the sin on the altar and that Because the person was sober, God has forgiven the sin.I was so surprised that I cried my eyes out.and many more that I don't want to talk abt.Though, am not a regular church goer as such and i go to church at times once in 2 months but I pray and I worship him cos am more than convince that he exist and when he wants to tell me something he does that either through dream or in the real life.

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:57pm On Jul 01, 2016
Seun:
How can you say that? So all the amputees in the world are living in sin which is why their limbs have not grown back? What a cruel excuse.

I think my namesake made much sense here :

KingEbukaNaija:


Lets look at an amputated limb . IMO , Human body parts do no regenerate and yes God is supernatural but some supernatural manifestations like a human body growing back are left for an appointed time. There would a bodily transformation during rapture , so if the amputee is a believer and is raptured , he'd undergo this wonderful transformation from an earthly body into a resurrection body , a whole again .

Take a look at these evocative bible verses that elucidate my point :

1 Corinthians 15:35-58.

The Resurrection Body

35 But someone may ask, “How will the dead be raised? What kind of bodies will they have?”

36 What a foolish question! When you put a seed into the ground, it doesn’t grow into a plant unless it dies first.

37 And what you put in the ground is not the plant that will grow, but only a bare seed of wheat or whatever you are planting.

38 Then God gives it the new body he wants it to have. A different plant grows from each kind of seed.

39 Similarly there are different kinds of flesh—one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish.

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies.

41 The sun has one kind of glory, while the moon and stars each have another kind. And even the stars differ from each other in their glory.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever.

43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength.

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

45 The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit.

46 What comes first is the natural body, then the spiritual body comes later.

47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.

48 Earthly people are like the earthly man, and heavenly people are like the heavenly man.

49 Just as we are now like the earthly man, we will someday be like the heavenly man.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed! 52 It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed. 53 For our dying bodies must be transformed into bodies that will never die; our mortal bodies must be transformed into immortal bodies.

54 Then, when our dying bodies have been transformed into bodies that will never die, this Scripture will be fulfilled:“Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is your victory?O death, where is your sting?”

56 For sin is the sting that results in death, and the law gives sin its power. 57 But thank God! He gives us victory over sin and death through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58 So, my dear brothers and sisters, be strong and immovable. Always work enthusiastically for the Lord, for you know that nothing you do for the Lord is ever useless.

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by winner01(m): 8:59pm On Jul 01, 2016
It is pointless to even reply this. This is just one of nairalands many attempts to belittle christianity and God and also encourage people to become atheists. Nairaland is very good at that. Hardly does a day go by without them showing us threads of perverted pastors and christians. I believe they should just come out of their shell and officially make the forum an atheist forum!!! Crap!!!

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by Kdon2: 9:01pm On Jul 01, 2016
iamDiabolic:

What am trying to drive at is am beginning to doubt the existence of God and if he doesn't show himself to me one of this days, then I might I have heard enough of that.

But u believe there is diabolical power n forces of darkness. By the time they deal wit u,u ll knw better. I just pity u.open ur mind n learn
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by MEILYN(m): 9:07pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I just said faith . What is wrong with you people ? Do you skip school to be on Nairaland or what ?

I've got jokes too cool
Faith is nonsense. Faith= belief without evidence. How can a grown man who claims to be intelligent believe in fairy tales without evidence? The only person here who is supposed to go back to school is you.
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:08pm On Jul 01, 2016
winner01:
It is pointless to even reply this. This is just one of nairalands many attempts to belittle christianity and God and also encourage people to become atheists. Nairaland is very good at that. Hardly does a day go by without them showing us threads of perverted pastors and christians. I believe they should just come out of their shell and officially make the forum an atheist forum!!! Crap!!!

Exactly ! I think seun should push your threads that delineate atheism for what it is in the front page and let the people decide . Seun , you can't keep pushing calumnies and unedifying topics against Christianity to the front page to induce doubts on people's minds . Show them the evil repugnant side of atheism , the stories of those who left atheism and became Christians and let them decide . Atheism is based on skepticism , rationality , logic and reason right ?

Hehehe... if I hear them no go embrace God sharp sharp .

Seun , do it and let us see cheesy cheesy wink

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by MEILYN(m): 9:11pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


If you mean you have chosen the path of ignorance and delusion , I can't stop you . I need you to entertain me .

**Let's get this party started

cool .
I am done with you sir. It's funny when you say I am ignorant, when the opposite is the case here. You are indeed very ignorant and I would advise you to read the Bible again and this time with an open mind. I have read the Bible from cover to cover so many times and it'll take me only 10 verses to point out about 20 bullsh*t it contains...
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by Tellemall: 9:11pm On Jul 01, 2016
Seun:
First of all, the distance between the earth and the sun is not measured in degrees, its measured in degrees. Secondly, there are 100 to 200 billion stars in our Galaxy. The fact that one of them happens to have the right conditions for life isn't a big surprise. Thirdly, the conditions on earth have varied a lot over time. There have been ice ages and hot periods, periods when the level of oxygen was much higher than it is now, supporting giant insects, and now, global warming. Life persists not because the conditions on earth have always been perfect for life but because life can adapt to the changes in the environment by evolving.

Are you evolving? Have you observed changes in yourself that shows signs of evolution? In the past 2000 years, have there been any changes, though minute, in the DNA or whatnot of humans?

If men evolved from underwater life forms, as one of the more extreme evolution theories goes, why is it that only man decided to evolve? Why have all other creatures decided to remain catatonic in that regard?

If there are billions of planets and then earth happens to have the right constituents for life as seen on earth, why does it seem that there are no other planets capable of hosting life, even with the extent of space exploration we've got so far? Are other civilizations out there so primitive that our unmanned devices/ships have never met out there? Out of a billion worlds from the hundreds NASA has explored one way or the other, only earth seems viable.

It's time we spoke of what is, rather than hypothetical things.

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:11pm On Jul 01, 2016
MEILYN:
Faith is nonsense. Faith= belief without evidence. How can a grown man who claims to be intelligent believe in fairy tales without evidence? The only person here who is supposed to go back to school is you.

My pal again , shows how atheists exhibit faith

KingEbukaNaija:


Do you see why faith is good ? You just displayed faith as an atheist . Atheism is faith in the non existence of God .

Let me elucidate with few examples . Atheist define faith as belief without evidence - this is the definition they hold unto though erroneous , but hey , let's ride .

An atheist of your caliber believes

1. That life obviously arose from inorganic matter despite the mathematical impossibility . You have accepted this impossibility with the belief that there was no supernatural intervention that made this possible . You are certain this process occurred even when there is no evidence at all . Yours is not just faith , it is blind faith

2. That there is extraterrestrial life . There is no evidence whatsoever supporting this and every research admits that earth is certainly the only planet that supports life . So basically , you have a belief with lack of evidence - faith .

3. That science in the future will answer all the questions pertinent to the beginning of the universe despite its limitations . There is no evidence that humanity will live that long . Why ?

a. AI Uprising : The rise of the machines . Experts have issued prescient warnings on possible obliteration of mankind by the machines in the future . How certain are you that man will survive this uprising and still find answers to his existence using science - faith .

b. Epidemics : The spread of virulent diseases like Ebola and the number of deaths caused have proven that man could be wiped out by deadly diseases . How certain are you that cures to even idiopathic diseases will be found or more deadly epidemics will be controlled so that the search for answers to man's existence using science won't be impeded - faith .

c. Asteroid : The ball of death from space . This has the propensity to wipe out mankind in an exiguous time leaving no one to provide answers to our existence using science but somehow you are certain it won't be so - faith .

We all - theists and atheist- exhibit faith in one way or the other
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:17pm On Jul 01, 2016
MEILYN:
I am done with you sir. It's funny when you say I am ignorant, when the opposite is the case here. You are indeed very ignorant and I would advise you to read the Bible again and this time with an open mind.
Lmao . I'm ignorant after Hitler has been proven to be an atheist ? Well , he believed he was god that's why he established the Relch Church in which there is no god but Hitler .

I have read the Bible from cover to cover so many times and it'll take me only 10 verses to point out about 20 bullsh*t it contains...

You have no proof for this claim . And your proof is to ransack atheists sites for the so-called contradictions and stories that need to be taken as allegories but taken literally . Anyway , let's see whatever you have - that's if they are worth my attention
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jul 01, 2016
ultra100:
then I saw one bright light that entered my room, immediately...
Not surprising. With the darkness that envelopes the nation, ordinary light will be a miracle. Up NEPA.

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by blackjack21(m): 9:18pm On Jul 01, 2016
johnydon22:


This begs the question "Is there something else greater than that thing?" because if you think there must be 'something' behind every existence then that 'something' must also need another 'something'

Yes?

Not an argument just want to stretch your personal cosmogony a bit..

Yes.
this is just like asking "what's the atom of an atom.
This is crazy mehn

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Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:24pm On Jul 01, 2016
Religion in Israel

The major religions in Israel are Judaism (74.9%) , Islam (17.5%) , Christianity (2.0%) , Druzism (1.6%) and other/unknown (4%) . There are so modicum atheists in Israel .

There are more Muslims in Israel- not Atheists - than Christians .

Please don't be deceived by ignorant people . Ignorance is deleterious . Education and facts counteract ignorance

Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by MEILYN(m): 9:26pm On Jul 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

Lmao . I'm ignorant after Hitler has been proven to be an atheist ? Well , he believed he was god that's why he established the Relch Church in which there is no god but Hitler .



You have no proof for this claim . And your proof is to ransack atheists sites for the so-called contradictions and stories that need to be taken as allegories but taken literally . Anyway , let's see whatever you have - that's if they are worth my attention

You never proved Hitler was Atheist, you only showed me a screenshot (Not proof) and I showed you mine which clearly stated he wasn't Atheist. Stop messing around, claiming that you gave me proof, when you gave me nothing but a screenshot which proves nothing....
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by NovusHomo(m): 9:33pm On Jul 01, 2016
iamDiabolic:
boss mi am begining to have a re-think bout the existence of God,when I ask some people how he manifest in my life,they would say its cause of him I breath nd its cause of his mercy am able to exist.well I told him this night to kill me if he is really pissed off with me,since he takes joy in killing nd making people sad.if 2nite he doesn't show himself to me even if its in a dream then he doesn't exist
I realise that when u kneel down nd pray u realise that u talking to urself


Let us know the result. I am an Atheist, and I am damn proud to be so. Also, religion is overated bullcrap.
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by jahstech: 9:43pm On Jul 01, 2016
Seun:
1) The distance between the earth and the sun is not measured in degrees, its measured in kilometers. 2) There are 100 to 200 billion planets in our Galaxy. The fact that one of them happens to have the right conditions for life isn't a big surprise. 3) The conditions on earth have varied a lot over time. There have been ice ages and hot periods, periods when the level of oxygen was much higher than it is now, supporting giant insects, and now, global warming. Life persists not because the conditions on earth have always been perfect for life but because life can adapt to the changes in the environment by evolving.

1) Yes, my mistake, it is measured in kilometers not in degrees, but you still didn't answer my question of how the distance came about.

2) Listen to yourself, there are billions of galaxies and you don't find it astonishing that just one contains life, am waiting for you to move to the next galaxy since you can evolve and adapt very well.

3) Life on earth varies you are right but most things are standard like the things I mentioned to you earlier, those are standard and you can never argue with that.
The changes in the earth situation is as a result of the terrible work of humans.

4) When you talk of evolving you make me laugh, I don't see any evolving around me, all I see is sick and dying humans, can you change that trend with your evolving analysis?

A lot of things are standard unless you prove to me otherwise, things such as:
1: My parants gave birth to me like everyone else, prove to me otherwise.
2: The second standard is that we must grow up, get sick and die, that has been the standard, even the renowned Darwin faced this standard, your evolving doesn't change this.
3: Humans are the most intelligent creatures we have seen(our thinking ability and consciousness comes into question), that standard has being so for ages, prove by the evolving you talked about that there are others living with or around you.

I left you something to read that describes the complexity of DNA, I guess you believe that it evolved as well.

One question, cars are made from metal, what are the chances that if you randomly keep throwing sheets of metal at each other a car would be formed?
Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:51pm On Jul 01, 2016
MEILYN:
You never proved Hitler was Atheist, you only showed me a screenshot (Not proof) and I showed you mine which clearly stated he wasn't Atheist. Stop messing around, claiming that you gave me proof, when you gave me nothing but a screenshot which proves nothing....

Hitler was an atheist . He thought himself to be god and was malevolent towards Christians . He established the Relch Church that saw him to be a god

Re: I Wonder If There Is A God by babe4wealth(m): 9:51pm On Jul 01, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


this person thinks we are that gullible
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*laughs in spiritual powers*


LETS ASSUME UR BIG BANG THEORY IS TRUE




BUT WAT IF D ALMIGHTY GOD WAS D ACTUAL OUTCOME OF THE BIG BANG THEORY AND NOT HUMANS, WILL U ACCEPT HIM?

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