GentlemanUnltd:
None of the mentioned, I prefer Christ instead.

Toks2008:


If you have ever self serviced,fornicated or watched pornography or lust after a lady in the last 30days then you are the most hypocritical hell bound person in existence.

I am not passing judgment but im stating the fact.

Many people are in hell today because of people like you as you keep preaching one thing while practicing another.

Many ladies refuse to get born again because they cant imagine not wearing jewelries, trousers and putting on make up and weave ons. Amazingly, many guys have reneged their faith as believers because they can't stop taking alcohol and i really wonder if drunkenness is the same as taking a bottle of stout or a glass of wine.

Believe me, GOD in his infinite awesomeness will look down and laugh at the foolishness of men when it comes to some issues.

[b]Whatever you get addicted to becomes detrimental to your life and that does not make that thing a sin so please call a spade spade.

Addiction to food, water,Internet,normal drugs and so on can be harmful to you but does that make those things a sin?

It is so unfortunate that some of you coming to talk down on sound minded individuals who see self service as a potential bad habit if unchecked rather than call it sin goes to show how shallow minded you people are.

I am happy that i am on nairaland to point out the hypocrisy of many people and i really dont give a hute if lalasticlala does not put some topics of mine on front-page...for all i care,i have passed the message.

A married woman or man whose spouse is not around for a long time can masturbate with super relish just imagining making love to the spouse and in like manner an unmarried person can ease off by thinking about sex which is perfectly normal as human or is thinking about sex also a sin?

But when you watch porn to masturbate, you lust after the characters in the film or magazines and when you watch porn at all, you also commit fornication cos you lust after the characters as the bible says if you LOOK at a woman or man lustfully it becomes a sin.

My duty as a believer is to win as many people as possible into GOD's kingdom not by preaching heresy or from my ideology. The bible is silent about it so why should i use human philosophy to decide what is sin or sinless.

Many people are in hell today because after they gave their life to christ, they see themselves still self servicing and in their own mind because of the false doctrines from people like you and firstking01 gave up their salvation because they felt they cant make the kingdom of GOD. [/b]


If anyone comes online again to discredit what i wrote up there without vivid back up from the sriptures na e-slap sure pass for that person.HYPOCRITES EVERYWHERE.

firstking01:
I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.

Toks2008:
I have seen many threads on nairaland concerning self servicing and each time i read these threads i just shake my head in disbelief and i just marvel at the level of hypocrisy many people bring into the subject matter but today i want to present my candid take on self servicing using the very words of GOD as guide.

1.Is self servicing a sin?: I have hoped that one day, someone will really quote a bible passage that condemns self servicing but so far what we have seen are human philosophies and personal conviction about the matter.I don't know what the Quran says about it but The truth is that the Bible is totally silent about this matter.Many scholars have sited the story of onan(Genesis 38) who spilled his fluid on the ground but a deep understanding of that story shows that GOD punished him for disobedience rather than the act.

Until we find a good scripture to point to self servicing as a sin i will urge people to stop using human ideology to deceive people about the subject matter."Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ."Colossians 2:8

2.When does self servicing becomes a sin:I always asked; when you masturbate how do you do it?what goes through your mind? I really don’t think a single man or woman will be thinking about a football game or a tractor when self servicing but probably about sex and i don't understand why it becomes a sin for a human who GOD created with sexual urge to think about sex.

But when you watch porn or indulge in pornographic induced self servicing then you have actually committed fornication and i will back this up with the scriptures..."But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"Matthew 5:28
This means when you self service while "looking" at pornographic materials,it is only natural to lust after the men or women in the film or magazines and that makes it outright Adultery/fornication making it 100% sin and in-fact looking at the opposite sex lustfully even without masturbating is a sin.

3.When does self servicing becomes sinless?:Now understand this fact,Sexual urge is natural,healthy and God created it in us. You can not pray and fast about not having a sexual urge because its as natural as wanting to defecate or urinate.

[b]GOD never intended for a full grown man or woman to be single but today, many factors are responsible for many unmarried adults which brings on them the pressure of sexual urge. If you are sexually active and you have the self control to stay without fornicating,watching pornography or self servicing i say GOD bless you but if you have a very strong libido i will advice you find a way to ease off without fornicating or watching pornography. As i wrote, it is perfectly normal to have sexual urge and it makes sense to ease off rather than burn with passion.

Conclusively,i would say self servicing should be stopped by those who see it as a sin regardless and just like every other habit that can become very addictive,people who indulge in it should know the limits.

However, the first step to stopping self servicing is to get married and if you still find yourself indulging in it with your wife or husband around then it becomes a matter of interest for you to address if it affects your sexual relationship with your wife.[/b]

"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion"1 Corinthians 7:9

Even when we know that masturbation may not be a sure way of avoiding fornication, many people have successfully wade off fornication with the act but the simple fact is that as long as you are a sexually healthy man or woman,you are left with three options...To self service,to fornicate or to burn with passion.

So I ask anyone reading this to sincerely tell us the option he or she would settle for

Bluetooth2:


The kind of stuff guys come up with just to justify their inability to sustain a good relationship with the opposite s'e'x is not only childish but utterly hysteria.


Any act you engage in and you don't want anyone to see you while doing it, then it becomes a sin. That's common sense!

N1ggas know the price of everything but know the value of nothing

firstking01:
I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.

Toks2008:


You are now communicating so my questions are;

Is thinking about sex a sin?

How does masturbation becomes sexual immorality?

If I'm married and my wife travels, is it a sin if I masturbate thinking about sex with my wife?

As an unmarried person is it a sin if I ease off thinking about sex?

Please note that you are now discussing the matter from the scriptures so I would like you to back up your answers with scriptures.

irunoko:
Toks2008 I have biblical verses that speak against masturbation
1.Romans ch 12 vs 1-I appeal to you therefore brothers by the mercies of God that you present your bodies as a living sacrifice holy and acceptable to God which is you spiritual worship

Toks2008:


Ifahia led?

led by your own philosophy I guess.

If you read tru you will see where I stated clearly that if your heart condemns you when you do it without porn then stop it..Simple.

But no one should call it a sinful act because we can not start choosing what is sinful by human reasoning.

Call it addictive and I will agree, call it a bad habit and I will say it is for those who see it that way but call it a sin and I will ask you to back it up from the sriptures or keep mum.

I repeat, I'm not promoting the act and I don't even know how to whank as they call it but I'm always out to say things as they are without hypocrisy.

irunoko:
Toks2008 I have biblical verses that speak against masturbation
1.Romans ch 12 vs 1-I appeal to you therefore brothers by the mercies of God that you present your bodies as a living sacrifice holy and acceptable to God which is you spiritual worship
2.Romans ch 13 vs 13-let us walk properly as in the day time ,not in orgies and drunkeness,NOT in sexual immorality and sensuality and not in quarelling and jealousy
3.

Tkayhandsome:
Masturbation is sweet. You fucking ejaculate on yourself

Tkayhandsome:
Masturbation is sweet. You fucking ejaculate on yourself

Toks2008:


If you have ever self serviced,fornicated or watched pornography or lust after a lady in the last 30days then you are the most hypocritical hell bound person in existence.

I am not passing judgment but im stating the fact.

Many people are in hell today because of people like you as you keep preaching one thing while practicing another.

Many ladies refuse to get born again because they cant imagine not wearing jewelries, trousers and putting on make up and weave ons. Amazingly, many guys have reneged their faith as believers because they can't stop taking alcohol and i really wonder if drunkenness is the same as taking a bottle of stout or a glass of wine.

Believe me, GOD in his infinite awesomeness will look down and laugh at the foolishness of men when it comes to some issues.

[b]Whatever you get addicted to becomes detrimental to your life and that does not make that thing a sin so please call a spade spade.

Addiction to food, water,Internet,normal drugs and so on can be harmful to you but does that make those things a sin?

It is so unfortunate that some of you coming to talk down on sound minded individuals who see self service as a potential bad habit if unchecked rather than call it sin goes to show how shallow minded you people are.

I am happy that i am on nairaland to point out the hypocrisy of many people and i really dont give a hute if lalasticlala does not put some topics of mine on front-page...for all i care,i have passed the message.

A married woman or man whose spouse is not around for a long time can masturbate with super relish just imagining making love to the spouse and in like manner an unmarried person can ease off by thinking about sex which is perfectly normal as human or is thinking about sex also a sin?

But when you watch porn to masturbate, you lust after the characters in the film or magazines and when you watch porn at all, you also commit fornication cos you lust after the characters as the bible says if you LOOK at a woman or man lustfully it becomes a sin.

My duty as a believer is to win as many people as possible into GOD's kingdom not by preaching heresy or from my ideology. The bible is silent about it so why should i use human philosophy to decide what is sin or sinless.

Many people are in hell today because after they gave their life to christ, they see themselves still self servicing and in their own mind because of the false doctrines from people like you and firstking01 gave up their salvation because they felt they cant make the kingdom of GOD. [/b]


If anyone comes online again to discredit what i wrote up there without vivid back up from the sriptures na e-slap sure pass for that person.HYPOCRITES EVERYWHERE.

firstking01:
I dnt really know where you are driving at maybe cos i didn't read everything you wrote but from your heading and second paragraph i can categorically and convincingly put it to anyone/body who masturbates is committing a sin pronable of bringing eternal damnation to yourself...your body is supposed to be the throne and temple of the holy spirit, so, how dare you defile it?...and if you think masturbation is not a sin why the guilt after the act?,,,anything you do and your concience is in disarray with you it's a sin....your concience is the God inside of you....i dnt wanna share my experience of masturbation and encounter with God...maybe some other day...again i qoute, that a thing is not in the bible doesn't mean it's not a sin....quit masturbation.

ImDharay:

and that ain't irritating to you
when you're done emitting your fluid....

Azord:

so if the rapture or death comes while masturbating u will go 2 heaven and God wil say"welcome good and faithful servant for masturbating"
u bera stop decieving people