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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by truthislight: 8:31pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Are you saying there are two types of Wisdom? If yes, prove it from the Bible.

Also, Prov. 8:30 says "Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;"

If the text is talking about Christ, it is clear that He was like one brought up with GOD: if GOD was brought up, then He was brought up with GOD.

How then could Christ be created?

SMH. what sort of translation is this one? it is not consistent with others on this.

Who brought God Yahweh up into existence?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 8:32pm On Sep 14, 2016
Deadlytruth:


This does not answer the question.
Neither the disciples in Acts nor the Thessalonians had a wrong expectation as their expectations were both found in the scriptures (Old Testament). What was wrong about their expectations (prophecies in the actual sense) was time of fulfilment. In both cases Jesus and Paul respectively made them understand that their expectations were correct but that were going to happen much later in the future. This is not same with the JWs whose expectation was nowhere to be found in the scriptures but purely man-made and hence failed to happen and never likely to happen in future. That is the context in which the first guy accused you people of being associated with mistakes which is itself an evidence of not really being guided by God but by human wisdom.

so you can still say they don't have wrong expectation after typing the bold ? grin grin

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:35pm On Sep 14, 2016
truthislight:


SMH. what sort of translation is this one? it is not consistent with others on this.

Who bought God Yahweh up into existence?

Except otherwise stated, I quote the Authorized Version (KJV).

Most of these misleading versions were translated from the Authorized Version.

So, answer the question you quoted.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:37pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:



is this how much you have been deceived ? if you ever know why I strike through as I did , the truth will set you free

Well, if you are going to talk to me about "YHWH" being removed from the Bible, then that's no argument, because it has no bearing on the question you quoted.

Now, answer the question you quoted.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by shedrach20: 8:39pm On Sep 14, 2016
JMAN05:

Its not a wrong expectation..... Its a proclamation that the gentile times were ending in 1914 which therefore signaled the beginning of the Last days..

We had a wrong expectation.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 8:42pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Well, if you are going to talk to me about "YHWH" being removed from the Bible, then that's no argument, because it has no bearing on the question you quoted.

Now, answer the question you quoted
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it has bearing on the question because Yahweh is the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob . and Jesus is his servant!

if you understand this , you will know they ain't equals .

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Deadlytruth(m): 8:43pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:


so you can still say they don't have wrong expectation after typing the bold ? grin grin

The bolded refers to the time they wanted/hoped their expectations would be fulfilled and not the expectations themselves. Please read between the lines. Their expectations were right but their timing was wrong. Simply put! Are you now okay?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:43pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:


it has bearing on the question because Yahweh is the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob . and Jesus is his servant!

if you understand this , you will know they ain't equals .

Okay. Still, who was talking in those two verses?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Anas09: 8:44pm On Sep 14, 2016
oneolajire:


Hahahahahahahahaha, I dey laaaaaafffffff laaaaaafffff ooooo grin grin grin grin grin.

You call yours evangelism too! Second degree evangelism.



The guy is happy spreading falsehood
I ministered to a Native Doctor, a man from a long line of Native Doctirs. He gave his life to Christ. Burnt every of his Arts. Started Church. He confessed to me that, no one had ever stopped to preach the Word to him once he introduces himself as a Native doctor.
As a matter of fact, he uses that to scare Bibke people off. He told me that several times, JW have come to him, but immidiately he tells them that he is a Native Doctor they turn back and run, but i sat in front of his shrine on a piece of block for two hours sharing the love of Christ with him.
That man could not believe a young lady will have that kind of guts. I was not afraid of who he was becauae i knew who i carried. I lead him to Christ, went back and brought my pastor, before us, he removed his charms, rings, amulets, neck chain and destroyed them.

Took a Bible and went to their viilage and summoned his kinsmen who most are Native Doctors. His father is a living babalawo, still alive, and preaented the Bible to them as his new way. When he return to the city, his father went to collect herbs, the spirits ceased the old man in the forest for three good days. The man could find his way out of the fimilar forest his had been going.

He called me, i called my pastor, we went into prayers. The old man was found alive. If that man had died, my convert would have been in serious trouble, because they accused him of being responsible for everything.

The fact is that he broke rank.

As his father's first son, he shd step into his father's shoes, but now he is a believer.

He is so excited to know all he now knows about God. He accuses some people around of hating him. He said they all knew he was damned but no one told him, they were all goiing to church preparing their way to heaven, while he was busy working to go to hell but no one told him.

Does that look like sexond rate evangelism? Why were JW running from preaching to him?

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 8:45pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Except otherwise stated, I quote the Authorized Version (KJV).

Most of these misleading versions were translated from the Authorized Version.

So, answer the question you quoted.

hmm , see him .. but the authorized version said the holyspirit is an " it " ? do u agree ? Numbers 11:17 KJV

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:45pm On Sep 14, 2016
It's kind of funny that I just asked a simple, direct, yes-or-no question and somebody cannot give a straightfoward answer to it.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 8:47pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:

Okay. Still, who was talking in those two verses?
Yahweh , the God of Jesus Christ

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:49pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:


hmm , see him .. but the authorized version said the holyspirit is an " it " ? do u agree ? Numbers 11:17 KJV

First of all, "holy" does not appear in Num. 11:17.

Secondly, KJV uses the possessive pronoun "her" for the moon in Mark 13:24. Is the moon a woman?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:51pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:


Yahweh , the God of Jesus Christ

Good. YAHWEH says beside him, there is no other GOD. He doesn't recognise any other GOD, apart from Himself.

Do you agree?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by SaffronSpice: 8:51pm On Sep 14, 2016
Anas09:

Hmmmmmm. My evangelism is second rate, yours is first rate right? How many Islamic countries do u send missions to?
All you wen u go out is arguement, wen u meet Bible based believers, you get thrown off balance and promise to return but never do.

The activities of JWs are banned in some Muslim countries.
You'll find JWs in any country in the world whose citizens are willing to listen to the tru..
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Mrbllymer: 8:51pm On Sep 14, 2016
Gabby91:
JMAN05, I commend your courage. Like you, I am a witness. I will read through everything here today. Still on the front page. smiley
I commend him for maturity displaced while answering the questions forwarded to him.

For those claiming Charles isn't their founder, take your time to read through this and digest

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

As for questions I have none to ask NOR answer any, interpret the scripture as it's revealed by the holy spirit unto you.
PEACE
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by freshcvvs: 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2016
Anas09:

Wonderful....

God will judge them according to their consciences, for the law of God was writen in their hearts.


Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one anotherwink
Romans:2:15

Athiests are crying agaiant helldire why? Himosexuals are crying against hellfire why?

And which laws are you going to judge the pre-law humans with?
With laws are you going to judge those who lived far away from the mosaic law with? i mean the Egyptians e.t.c?

I can see i have completely confused you because you do not know where to classify me. i love it this way, coming from different angles to show you that the world is not just the way you see it.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by GoodieAmy(f): 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2016
The only thing members of jw need from us christians is serious prayers...that their eyes of understanding may be opened. They've just been brainwashed from birth. I love their way of evangelizing only but their words are empty...without power. I've not heard of where they opened a blind eye or a deaf ear. I've not heard of miracles amongst them. Their lives will be much better if they acknowledge the person of the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:


First of all, "holy" does not appear in Num. 11:17.


grin its not reffering to holyspirit ?



Secondly, KJV uses the possessive pronoun "her" for the moon in Mark 13:24. Is the moon a woman?

moon was personified ! not a person

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Tellemall: 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2016
JMAN05:


An apostate. I don't want to discuss him.

But he has a lot to say about you guys here on nairaland.

Is there an ounce of truth to what he says? He has indisputable evidence, real documents. If what he says is untrue you owe it to society to refute his claims.

Why is it that every Jehovah Witness wants to say nothing about him? Is the truth so fearful?

1. Who exactly are Jehovah Witness? What is the true core of who you are?

2. How did you guys evolve your own religious sect? Catholics too evolved a sect, so why are you guys against theirs? I have noticed your Bibles are something else.

3. Why are Jehovah Witness interpretations generally different from the regular Bible ones? This is not to say they are always wrong, but why that distinct dichotomy and excessive focus on paradise?

4. Why must Jehovah Witness bring up the issue of means of crucifixion? Is it a team grouse with the Bible or with other protestants? It's not a case with which to win over anybody.

I particularly enjoy Jehovah Witness, but that emphasis on paradise and the inability of your proselytizers to step away from some aspects I see as dogma sort of repels me.

In terms of character building, you guys are the best. Little kids in Jehovah Witness are better informed than adults in other Protestant sects.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Cathony(m): 8:53pm On Sep 14, 2016
Who are Jehovah's Witnesses, and who made you one you even call little children in your church Jehovah's witnesses?? if you truly know the meaning of "Jehovah's Witness" , y'all won't call yourself one at all. Prolly just your pastors or so, every member of the Watchtover society can't be JW...period..
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Yinkamy: 8:55pm On Sep 14, 2016
Alexandro15:
Op thank you for this opportunity.

1. Please I wish to know why the JW refer to the angel Michael as Jesus.

2. Why do you say that there is no hell fire,i.e, after one dies he either goes to heaven or cease existing.

Many people attribute what the JW's do not believe or teach to them. If u are open minded, as d op said, and u do not already seal yr reasoning to just antagonizing or trying to argue with, or ridicule d JW's whn dey come to u, then u will really learn more about them. Nobody needs to feel bad about another person's belief. The JW's dont force pple to their worldwide international fold. They are not indoctrinating anybody. The truth they show people fr the Bible draws the people to Jehovah, the only true God (John 8: 32; John 17: 17; James 4:cool' please listen more to learn more. Follow the guide of the op.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:56pm On Sep 14, 2016
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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 8:57pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:


grin its not reffering to holyspirit ?



moon was personified ! not a person

"All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of GOD is in my nostrils;" Job 27:3

JOB says the spirit of GOD was in his nostrils. So, the word "spirit" has more than one meaning in the Bible.
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by alolatee(m): 8:58pm On Sep 14, 2016
Tellemall:


Your last sentence is very unkind.

They may have a differing idea of the Bible, but that doesn't make them a bloodletting bunch.

You know muslims and atheists may just persecute christians and are known for that, but JW people won't enter into life and are obstacles into others getting into heaven.They are the ones who enter into homes and make people captives and render them twice candidates of Hell.They are worse in the sense that muslims not all though(i mean religious extremists can be seen and avoided) but these people come in sheep's clothing but are like ravenous wolves disguised as true disciples and sweet tongues but full of poisonous snakes like adder and deceive people with their tongue cos you won't drag them away like extremists.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 8:58pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:


Good. YAHWEH says beside him, there is no other GOD. He doesn't recognise any other GOD, apart from Himself.

Do you agree?

Yes , only him is God Almighty - Exodus 6:3


that doesn't mean he doesn't proclaim others as gods , he called humans gods , so also he made moses a God to pharaoh .

but no one is called Almighty God except him. because he doesn't have a God

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Cathony(m): 8:59pm On Sep 14, 2016
and mind you, I know all the verses you wanna quote for me, no of your members have really answered this question in a correct manner...
Acts 1:8, Isaiah, Matthew if u need more, tell me...
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Jozzy4: 9:00pm On Sep 14, 2016
DoctorAlien:


"All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of GOD is in my nostrils;" Job 27:3

JOB says the spirit of GOD was in his nostrils. So, the word "spirit" has more than one meaning in the Bible.

so come out straight before I burst out laughing , what is been referenced as spirit in Numbers 11:17 ?

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Anas09: 9:01pm On Sep 14, 2016
freshcvvs:


I read in some places that hell = grave. interpretations screwed up the real meaning. hell doesn't actually mean "real fire" afterall spirits don't feel pains so casting a spirit into fire does nothing, don't you think?
I hope u have watched a body being interred? Did you ever see fire down there? What happened to your mind? U lost it?
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Tellemall: 9:02pm On Sep 14, 2016
JMAN05:


An apostate. I don't want to discuss him.

quote author=JMAN05 post=49026089]

An apostate. I don't want to discuss him.[/quote]

But he has a lot to say about you guys here on nairaland.

Is there an ounce of truth to what he says? He has indisputable evidence, real documents. If what he says is untrue you owe it to society to refute his claims.

Why is it that every Jehovah Witness wants to say nothing about him? Is the truth so fearful?

1. Who exactly are Jehovah Witness? What is the true core of who you are?

2. How did you guys evolve your own religious sect? Catholics too evolved a sect, so why are you guys against theirs? I have noticed your Bibles are something else.

3. Why are Jehovah Witness interpretations generally different from the regular Bible ones? This is not to say they are always wrong, but why that distinct dichotomy and excessive focus on paradise?

4. Why must Jehovah Witness bring up the issue of means of crucifixion? Is it a team grouse with the Bible or with other protestants? It's not a case with which to win over anybody.

I particularly enjoy Jehovah Witness, but that emphasis on paradise and the inability of your proselytizers to step away from some aspects I see as dogma sort of repels me.

In terms of character building, you guys are the best. Little kids in Jehovah Witness are better informed than adults in other Protestant sects.

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by freshcvvs: 9:03pm On Sep 14, 2016
Anas09:

Do you believe in God? If you don't, why are you here? Leave us alone to talk about our God.

So what's wrong with my questions? and how does my questions = not believing in God?

And which of your God are you talking about?

The One God called Jehovah?
The 3 in one God(s) called Trinity?
Or the God called Jesus?

Which of them is your "our"?

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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 9:03pm On Sep 14, 2016
Jozzy4:


Yes , only him is God Almighty - Exodus 6:3


that doesn't mean he doesn't proclaim others as gods , he called humans gods , so also he made mose a God to pharaoh .

but no one is called Almighty God except him. because he doesn't have a God

Isa. 43:11, Yahweh says beside Himself, there is no other Saviour.

How then could Jesus Christ be the Saviour of mankind?

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