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Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by 6digitscomrade: 7:29pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
OBAMA,BILL GATES,CAMERON AND MY LIKES..YOU ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN EVERYWHERE IN EUROPE..AND SKIPPED POLAND?YOU SEE WHY YOU SHOULD REALLY GET LOST?? OlajumokeBread: |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by ephi123(f): 7:43pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
uplawal: No one is debating whether racism exists or not, the point is it is up to you whether you let it define you aka adopting a victim mentality. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Nobody: 7:47pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Particularly the black black black sheep song,they made us reminds how they collected our wool for free and cottons for their own gains. bee444: |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Nobody: 7:50pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Thats what is actually what is being argued here,the victim mentality is secondary. ephi123: |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Houstency(m): 7:51pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
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Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by ephi123(f): 7:53pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
uplawal: Not sure we are reading the same thing here, in any case it is my opinion - I know successful black colleagues doing well despite their skin color, those who choose to scream racism are free to do so. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Barigaboy(m): 7:54pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
He good as u no lie. If u talk say u fit tweek I for ask for d yansh wey u won use 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by hardbody: 7:56pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Bollinger: Learn how to make it. Stop sounding like a failure. We make it here and spend it there. Ask around. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Nobody: 7:57pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
See you,so you think because they are doing successfully means they are not facing racism?you people do like you know pass people athat are in UK for decades. ephi123: 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by ephi123(f): 8:00pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
uplawal: Madam please leave my mention, we don't have to agree on a topic. Does racism exist? Yes. Are people thriving despite it? Big yes. THAT is my point. But as I've said we don't have to agree on this topic. Eod. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by UchaNwababa: 8:01pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Babysho:Kul me wey live for Ghetto nkoo make she come for Naija make we smoke Garri 2gether. |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by bigfrancis21: 8:13pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
one4GOD: That's not the point of her article. She is not discouraging anyone from going to the UK neither is she complaining she wants to go back. She is simply telling you the reality of life abroad as a black person - one side of obodo oyibo Nigerians back home don't even realize exists. I've noticed that Nigerians back home who have never travelled out before do not understand racism or what racism feels like, so when people tell their experience they look down on it like it were trashy talk. Racism nowadays may not be aggressive or overt as before but it is subtle and exists in little ways you can perceive - such as going to a restaurant and whites are being given preferential or better treatment than you because the waiters believe the whites tip better than blacks who tip little or none at all (which seems to be true, given that whites are often wealthier than blacks) or going to a store to shop and being followed around like you came to steal simply because you're black meanwhile none of the store attendants are looking the way of whites shopping in the store, or walking/strolling across in a predominantly-white neighborhood and next thing you know someone calls the police to 'check up on that black person walking down the street who may be armed', etc. Things like this are part of the reality of life abroad. Nigerians back home think that obodo oyibo is heaven. Obodo oyibo is not heaven. It has its good and bad sides. Yes, the place is beautiful, well-organized, working system, constant light, water, gas etc., fast internet, better phone service etc. but Nigerians don't understand that you would have to work very hard, I mean very hard like bankers back home do to afford the good things of life America or abroad offers. Nothing is free in America, life here is very independent - nothing like depending on uncle, aunt, cousin, relative or living in their house free of charge for 1 year or more like we do back home. Not to mention that the tax on your salary here is VERY high. Here in the US, you're taxed about 30% of your salary and you go home with 70% (imagine being paid N100,000 salary per month and N30,000 is deducted as taxes and your take home is N70,000. It is really that bad. In the UK, the tax rate is up to 40% for employees. In Nigeria, we do not even know what tax is or feel taxes deducted every month because it is too small). Out of 70% you take home you have to pay your monthly rent (abroad rent is usually paid monthly and not yearly like we do in Nigeria) or monthly mortgage if you bought the house on mortgage (also abroad you buy already built houses, unlike in Nigeria where you buy land and build a house from scratch according to your pockets, and most times homes range from between $150,000 to as high as $600,000 and it would take almost an entire lifetime savings to save up to buy a house so people obtain a mortgage from a bank to buy a house and pay back that mortgage monthly for over the next 20 to 30 years until all of it is paid off. Bad news, if you ever default on your mortgage payment, the bank will eject you, take the house from you, sell it and recover their money), pay your utility bills (water, light, gas, cable, internet, phone bill, etc.), pay your car insurance (if you drive a car in the US, you MUST buy and carry car insurance at all times. It is against the law to drive a car without insurance and if the police ever stops you or should you get into an accident and you don't have an insurance, you are in for trouble big time), pay your health insurance (medical treatment here in the US is very expensive and it is required that you have medical insurance to pay for 90% or more of your health bills should you ever fall sick), car loan (same as buying a house, buying a brand new or fairly used car is expensive and most times people do not have the money saved up, so they obtain car loans from a bank or car dealership to buy a car and pay the back the money monthly until it is paid off, which takes about 5 to 10 years on average), fuel your car, feed yourself etc. and at the end of the day you barely have little or anything left to save. Just when you're struggling to pay off all these your bills every month, then someone calls you from Nigeria asking you to send them 'ordinary $500' because he thinks you're swimming in a pool of money. You can't afford to house someone in your house for too long because an extra head in your house can spike up your light, water and gas bills and your expenses shoot up. With a house mortgage, you're stuck in the system of debt that they have here for the next 20 to 30 years. Americans basically live from paycheck to paycheck. I mean as each paycheck comes in it is being used to clear debts upon debts. Then you'll understand why some Nigerians living abroad cannot afford to come back because they barely have savings to afford a flight ticket home or to live up to expectations of the people back home. Then as an immigrant or black person, you'd have to deal with issues of subtle racism. For the first time in your life, people would judge or rate you based on your skin colour and as Nigerians growing up back home this is something we never used to think. We look beyond one's skin colour into one's personal characteristics or person. Abroad, by just seeing you they assign you different characteristics simply because you are black even before they get to know you as a person. Then life abroad becomes a struggle for you to overcome the general beliefs the majority has about you etc. You try to prove you're 'different' or you're not like 'the others'. In the office, as a black person, you might find yourself constantly having to prove yourself just as capable as your white counterparts even though you may have a master's degree while your white counterparts have associate bachelors (equivalent to OND in Nigeria) or bachelors degree. As an immigrant to a foreign country, basically life starts afresh for you. In the US, you'd have to start life all over again. When you arrive you find out that you are behind others and you'll need to catch up to compete with others. First you have to deal with getting your permanent residency or green card so you could work average-paying jobs or higher so you can survive or else you'd settle for under-the-table jobs where you will be underpaid and forced to work under the toughest of situations. Next you have to go to school here to get a US degree because our degrees are not recognized here, especially if you want to get an office (corporate) job or work for the US government. Then you have to start building your credit history which is your history of debt management that shows how responsible or irresponsible you are with managing money, etc. that enables you get approved for a house or car loan or even phone service or renting certain apartments. With little or no credit history, you would not enjoy these benefits. This takes about 3 to 5 years after getting here to achieve to be, at least, on the same level as native-born Americans, that is if you're fast enough. For some people it may take them up to 10 years. Then you deal with the HUGE difference in culture and mentality in a foreign country. The way we see life is different from the way of life abroad. You cannot just lift up anybody's cute little baby and rock affectionately in the air, without the parent's permission, like we do back home or else the parents can report you for pedophilia. While back home life is still very much communal, in the US life is VERY independent. In Nigeria, if a neighbor doesn't see you in just a few weeks they could actually come around to look for you. Here in the US, you could even die in your house and nobody would notice or care until maybe they start to perceive the stench coming from your corpse. Everybody stays on their own, with very minimal interaction. You could live in a neighborhood for 20 years and still not know who your neighbor is or what they do. Neighbors barely interact with each other. Friends here are very fake and it is hard to find a very good friend here. Just get into the littlest of trouble and watch all of them disappear and you're on your own - nobody wants to get involved in your issues, only for them to re-appear when the going gets good again. I am not saying this to discourage anybody to come here. Many would still not understand this after all I've written. If you want to come please feel free to come here. The point of my article is that life in obodo oyibo is not exactly as you see it in Hollywood movies. Hollywood movies do a good job of only showcasing the good sides of America and relegating the bad sides to the background. Only when you arrive will you see the reality on ground and the stark difference between movies and reality. Some of you will say, life abroad is still better than in Nigeria and I would say it all depends on what you make of it. Some people are ok with living a middle class lifestyle here, enjoying the amenities of life America gives but being heavily stuck in debt (house loan, car loan, etc.) and cannot break free from the well-packaged cycle of debt in America. Whereas some other people prefer the freedom life in Nigeria has and the possibility of doing business back home (you pay much less taxes anyway) or landing a good job with connection (if they know people). Before Nigeria's economy went into a recession, you could get a good job, pay very little taxes compared to your counterparts abroad, have much more in savings and you're financially better off than your counterpart abroad. In America, with an average-paying job, even with the heavy taxes if you're able to keep your expenses to the barest minimum you would afford to have some savings to invest back home or even here in the US. Just imagine, approximately 62% of Americans have less than $1,000 in their savings accounts and 21% don’t even have a savings account, according to a new survey of more than 5,000 adults conducted this month by Google Consumer Survey for personal finance website GOBankingRates.com. It's very hard to save here when you have all these bills and debt to pay every month. Better still, if you're entrepreneurial in spirit and launch a company or business here and are successful, then you'll enjoy America because you are no more severely financially constrained like most employees in the US. My point is if you want to come you are always welcome to come but do not expect life here to be all cozy and bliss. The grass is not always green on the other side. 35 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Ishilove: 8:25pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
bigfrancis21:Sweetheart, you have succeeded in discouraging me big time East or West, home is the best, despite all the challenges we face here in Nigeria. 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by optimusprime2(m): 8:29pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
OlajumokeBread:Aaaaah I see you haven't quite gone places... After Spending some time in Russia, China & India you will realise the world is actually round... and some people don't give a care about rap. |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by dekingboy: 8:34pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
@OlajumokeBread My brother you don't know how it feels like until you are the one or related to the one. If I may ask why the #black movement in your so called USA. Why the #black live matters. Why the trump phobia. Check out on Detroit streets of Michigan and other States why the police killing of blacks and all the double standards. Why did some States choose not to celebrate the Columbus's Day. My brother even if you are married to a white person does not kill racism because their are blacks that sees some white as pigs in as much as the white see us as monkeys. My own view though, no harm meant. |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Famsey: 8:38pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Babysho: LMAO 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by mastermind1759(m): 8:40pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
All u need to carry on is been a good example black race.change their perceptions and b humbleas possible as u can |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by justwise(m): 8:40pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
@All Sorry about hidden posts..all insults and name calling. Will try and edit some |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by geraob1: 8:41pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Its called enlightenment. Which can be accessed through books or via Internet. |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by loomer: 8:44pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
MadCow1: Yes racism is everywhere and e no fit stop, but if u no send whity den ur life go go well. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by OlajumokeBread(f): 8:46pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
6digitscomrade: They go there for political purposes What else would take a sane person to that country ?? I would rather go to Somalia |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Cletus77(m): 9:18pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
see their white faces like moju powder, if to say u be gay, dem for love u scatter.... And encourage u to be proud of it... Na only to Bleep yash na dem sabi!!! 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by 6digitscomrade: 9:19pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
AND SOMALIA YOU WILL BE...LIKE I SAID DO NOT COMMENT ON THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW IT WILL ATTRACT ALOT OF NEGATIVE THINGS TO YOU..LISTEN MORE AND TALK LESS YOU WILL LEARN AND GROW TO INFLUENCE OTHERS...I AM WELL TRAVELLED,I ORGANIZE CONFERENCES,there is one coming up in few days in dublin..for jobseekers you get to to meet big time CEOs..i have without sounding cocky,know alot about racism and europe more than you..dont talk about countries in particular..fortunately in Nigeria we have only tribalism and nepotism..SOUTH AFRICA has racism and discrimination same with morocco and tunisia..but europe and USA.. are the kings as it were when it comes to racism only the ratio differs in alot of states and countries..just shut up dont say racism is no more instead preach TOLERANCE..you will get more patronage i dont patronize unrealistic or naive people. OlajumokeBread: 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Nobody: 9:29pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Ireland is the most loving and accepting people in Europe,blacks are well treated here than any European country or may I say any white country in the world,Cavan is a small place but I can authoritatively say there are many blacks in every county of Ireland including Cavan,so I smell lies,I've been living here since late 90's even before the Nigerians flooded the place,don't get me wrong,you could find some ignorant ones but very few. |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by gymnasium(m): 9:29pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
MadCow1: |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by gymnasium(m): 9:30pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
MadCow1: |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Brightgem(f): 9:46pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
ychris:kai keep kwayet! Before u attract a truly worse fate on yasef! 9ja no be any fire, make ur own heaven. |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Nobody: 9:46pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Ishilove: Don't get discouraged by the write up there,the worst situation here is better than best situation in Nigeria,blacks talk about racism,while in Nigeria,Nigerians themselves do not like themselves simply because you speak different language. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by chineloSA(f): 9:46pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
ychris: |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Ishilove: 9:54pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
euromilion:The scenario he painted was pretty depressing 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Girl Living In Ireland Narrates Challenges Of Being Black Abroad by Nobody: 9:56pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Ishilove: I do not blame him/her I guess they're in USA,it's pretty tough over there. |
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