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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by INTROVERT(f): 8:08am On Nov 06, 2016
Babzilla:
What sickens me about these churches is how averse they are to helping people in need. Its all about take take and take some more... That a pastor lives in so much affluence and feels nothing when he sees his members pinching and scraping to get by is disgusting. and you still shamelessly demand that they give more.




A question was asked. If you are in your way to church and you meet some one in desperate need (accident victim, stranded or sick person) who needs urgent and immediate help and you have just your offering or "tithe" and tp. Would you help that needy person out from that gift you have prepared for God.

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:09am On Nov 06, 2016
INTROVERT:



Haven't seen tithes payed in the new testament Please show me one example for me to learn.
You're definitely one of the mordern day church goers who take only the part of the bible that soothe their pleasure and leave out the inconvenient ones


dermmy:

Please can you tell us where the store house is? And pls don't tell me the store house is the bank. And my question is where in the bibke did you see people paying tithe as money the tithe that peole paid back then were animals farm produce. Who changed modern day tithe to money? And the tithe was meant for the nation of Israel alone even if you go to isarael today the Rabbis and other priest of judaism don't collect tithe anymore so if the nation that first observed tithe doctrine has discontinued the doctrine why do churches in other countries still scare the hell out of their members to pay tithe...mind you i'm a born again christian don't think i'm an atheist. I know the word of God from back to back
Having a conversation with your pastor on the form in which u want to pay your tithe shouldn't be a problem. Your point would make more sense if you've had that conversation with him before raising this argument.
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:11am On Nov 06, 2016
INTROVERT:





A question was asked. If you are in your way to church and you meet some one in desperate need (accident victim, stranded or sick person) who needs urgent and immediate help and you have just your offering or "tithe" and tp. Would you help that needy person out from that gift you have prepared for God.


Yes I will
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:12am On Nov 06, 2016
maximunimpact:


Product of a brainwashed and gullible follower. who says they are not accountable to members who work hard to pay tithes? you people hide behind this to defraud members. i'm so happy to be free from this your lies.
You don't pay tithe yet issues on tithe keep getting your attention...Lol. You should probably spend this energy and intelligence on how to please God by obeying him on tithe and not how to please your pastor
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by EyeHateGod: 8:14am On Nov 06, 2016
[size=14pt] Church Business is Good Business [/size]

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Einl(m): 8:16am On Nov 06, 2016
Young man...go back to your normal Catholic Church where they teach the Word of God and help the poor.

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Sanchez01: 8:17am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

God is not modern. Besides its not d pastor who would make it compulsory. Its already in d bible. If you don't pay tithe, you're not a Christian at all
Show me where it's stated and I'll refer you to one of my threads on this. By the way, I'm not a Christian, according to you.
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by safarigirl(f): 8:17am On Nov 06, 2016
decode55:
There's something fundamentally wrong with the brand of Christianity being practiced in nigeria.
of course. It is the type that Pharisees practice.

The "put on the mask of a good Christian in public, but be Satan's advocate under the mask" type of Christianity.

The fact that people with a supoosed brain even defend these psdtors is more disturbing than Buhari and his recession

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by EyeHateGod: 8:18am On Nov 06, 2016
INTROVERT:





A question was asked. If you are in your way to church and you meet some one in desperate need (accident victim, stranded or sick person) who needs urgent and immediate help and you have just your offering or "tithe" and tp. Would you help that needy person out from that gift you have prepared for God.
It amazing this was the same Example jusus used...
Mat 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift [it] out?

But unfortunate Christians don't even Understand what the word Christian Means...

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by maximunimpact(m): 8:19am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

You don't pay tithe yet issues on tithe keep getting your attention...Lol. You should probably spend this energy and intelligence on how to please God by obeying him on tithe and not how to please your pastor

Ooooh... i was even wasting my time explaining, never knew you are radically blunt.

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by safarigirl(f): 8:19am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

You're definitely one of the mordern day church goers who take only the part of the bible that soothe their pleasure and leave out the inconvenient ones



Having a conversation with your pastor on the form in which u want to pay your tithe shouldn't be a problem. Your point would make more sense if you've had that conversation with him before raising this argument.


Lol, see who is talking.

My brother, do you have a beard? Do you wear a cassock? Cuz those are also requirements in the Bible, from the part your tithe came from and most tithers convenientky do not follow it as well

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by dermmy(m): 8:20am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

Having a conversation with your pastor on the form in which u want to pay your tithe shouldn't be a problem. Your point would make more sense if you've had that conversation with him before raising this argument.

So it has come to the point where people should start negotiating the form in which they would like to pay their tithes...JESUS wnd the Apostles taught us that right? The book of Malachi 3:10 says bring ttithes to the store house that there may be food in my house. You need to ask your pastor to show you the store house and ask him where are the foods coz that verse said food and not money... Many Christians don't understand God's word..i speak this to their shame

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by superstarDikk(m): 8:21am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:
Paying tithe is a necessity from God. The responsibility of the pastor is to ensure that he uses it to provide food in God's storehouse. If he does not use it for that purpose, he's not answerable to you, he's answerable to God. Yours is to pay, once u pay, then you've obeyed your own part.

Offering shdnt be a compulsion but optional. Any pastor who makes it compulsory is a thief.
Oga u need to read ur bible again. it is ur responsibility to spend ur tithe for 'whatever your heart desires' 'you shall eat there before the LORD you GOD, and you shall rejoice, you and your household'. You only invite the levite to come and partake because he has 'no portion of inheritance with you, and the stranger, and the fatherless and the widow who are within your gates , may come and eat and be satisfied, that the LORD may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do'

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by manie(m): 8:22am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:
Paying tithe is a necessity from God. The responsibility of the pastor is to ensure that he uses it to provide food in God's storehouse. If he does not use it for that purpose, he's not answerable to you, he's answerable to God. Yours is to pay, once u pay, then you've obeyed your own part.

Offering shdnt be a compulsion but optional. Any pastor who makes it compulsory is a thief.
if I don't pay my tithe, I am not answerable to any pastor but to God.

The same way the pastor is not answerable to the congregation on how he uses the funds contributed by members of his congregation.

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:24am On Nov 06, 2016
safarigirl:



Lol, see who is talking.

My brother, do you have a beard? Do you wear a cassock? Cuz those are also requirements in the Bible, from the part your tithe came from and most tithers convenientky do not follow it as well



You know yourself you don't have a point
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:29am On Nov 06, 2016
dermmy:


So it has come to the point where people should start negotiating the form in which they would like to pay their tithes...JESUS wnd the Apostles taught us that right? The book of Malachi 3:10 says bring ttithes to the store house that there may be food in my house. You need to ask your pastor to show you the store house and ask him where are the foods coz that verse said food and not money... Many Christians don't understand God's word..i speak this to their shame
Your concern now is that its food that shd be brought to the church not money

OK tell me as the provider for your family(you're a man I guess) when was the last time u went to farm and hired farm labourers to help you take yams rice beans and other foodstuff from the farm to ur house?

Instead what you do is withdraw money from the atm, give it to ur wife who's headache is to go to d market (not farm) to get foodstuffs and u will brag u are the provider of your family

You're not worth it my dear. Go to farm
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by safarigirl(f): 8:30am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

You know yourself you don't have a point
lol....no, you don't have a clapback, hence you avoid the question

Radically blunt indeed

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by martineverest(m): 8:32am On Nov 06, 2016
while tuition fees of some churches' universities tuition fees are 'spiritually pegged' in an economy facing serious recession,other universities owned by churches in developed world like USA are far cheaper than the state/federal owned universities in those countries.


Churches like redeem are asking for more tithes and offerings more than ever asked
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:34am On Nov 06, 2016
safarigirl:
lol....no, you don't have a clapback, hence you avoid the question

Radically blunt indeed
This isn't about being personal my dear. If it were to be, you're too young with little life experience for my bluntness. So stay with ur belief. Its as simple as that
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by pring: 8:34am On Nov 06, 2016
Payment of tithe has nothing to do ur prosperity.
As dangote n Otedola.
People are so much brain washed by all this pastors.
I dont even think about paying tithe.
Its only for d gullible.

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:35am On Nov 06, 2016
manie:
if I don't pay my tithe, I am not answerable to any pastor but to God.

The same way the pastor is not answerable to the congregation on how he uses the funds contributed by members of his congregation.
Perfectly said. Whether you said it aright or wrongly
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:36am On Nov 06, 2016
superstarDikk:
Oga u need to read ur bible again. it is ur responsibility to spend ur tithe for 'whatever your heart desires' 'you shall eat there before the LORD you GOD, and you shall rejoice, you and your household'. You only invite the levite to come and partake because he has 'no portion of inheritance with you, and the stranger, and the fatherless and the widow who are within your gates , may come and eat and be satisfied, that the LORD may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do'
Your choice
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by igho003(m): 8:37am On Nov 06, 2016
ENGINEous:
grin

Just pay and leave the rest to God.. but it shouldn't be because your Pastor is forcing you
another abaya sighted
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by INTROVERT(f): 8:37am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

You're definitely one of the mordern day church goers who take only the part of the bible that soothe their pleasure and leave out the inconvenient ones



Having a conversation with your pastor on the form in which u want to pay your tithe shouldn't be a problem. Your point would make more sense if you've had that conversation with him before raising this argument.





At least I gave you three bible passages on new testament and tithing and you can't even give one ... Hnmmm I just wonder.

In the old testament, that's before Jesus came and died, the Jews were commanded to give 1/10, offer burnt offerings and bring their first fruits and the high priest would pray for them. Deut12: 5-6, 11-13 . however our high priest now is Jesus and there is no need for that because Jesus never did it, Hus disciples never did it, the apostles never did it nor have I seen an example after Christ died of Christians doing it. Please I ask again show me a reference in the new testament that implores Christians on paying tithe. Luke 6:38, 1cor 16:1-2, 2cor 8:6-9

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by dermmy(m): 8:38am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

Your concern now is that its food that shd be brought to the church not money

OK tell me as the provider for your family(you're a man I guess) when was the last time u went to farm and hired farm labourers to help you take yams rice beans and other foodstuff from the farm to ur house?

Instead what you do is withdraw money from the atm, give it to ur wife who's headache is to go to d market (not farm) to get foodstuffs and u will brag u are the provider of your family

You're not worth it my dear. Go to farm

Believe me if our pastors tell us to go to farm to bring farm produce as tithes and create a store house for them we would glady turn into farming and it's going to help church members that are hungry infact in this time of recession the church will roll out foods into the society and many people would feel the love of christ. And farming will help our country because we need more farmers. But our pastors have changed the word of God by turning tithes into money and sending them into their own store house which is their bank account. Ask me more questions i'm ready to lift the veil off your face and liberate you

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by stonemasonn: 8:39am On Nov 06, 2016
Babzilla:
What sickens me about these churches is how averse they are to helping people in need. Its all about take take and take some more... That a pastor lives in so much affluence and feels nothing when he sees his members pinching and scraping to get by is disgusting. and you still shamelessly demand that they give more.
It is against the laws of nature to take and not to give and vice versa. It breeds stagnation and starvation and the deprived part ultimately suffers. The church must not be seen as contributing to suffering hence it must learn to circulate wealth just as it has become a master in wealth creation. Even Jesus was giving and taking unabashedly.
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by ikorodureporta: 8:39am On Nov 06, 2016
If u hav parents & siblings you dnt care for, & u'v got a job & only focus on yr family........yet u're going to drop yr TITHE today..........

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Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by superstarDikk(m): 8:39am On Nov 06, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:

Your choice
So what the bible says now is my choice. issokay, keep deceiving yourselves
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by TI1919(m): 8:39am On Nov 06, 2016
I only feel sorry for those who follow them, I am not interested in any of them.
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:40am On Nov 06, 2016
Papiikush:
I don't understand what you mean! Is it the same pastors that can't even provide for the poor in their church that is suppose to play a role in this recession

The same pastor who will still stand on pulpit and preach about the sins and curses that will come to your household if you don't pay your tithe? Those same pastors?

The ones that can't call to check on the common man in the congregation if he doesn't come to church for two weeks despite the fact he is faithful in service but his tithe is below 5k in a month. That same pastor? undecided

Abeg I no dey deceive myself





can you see what I am saying? This is one of the brainwashed members of the "men of men" where in the Bible is is located? Please show us not just make references undecided
Simple which book of law says that its a man who should provide for the family and not a woman. Pls answer
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Nobody: 8:41am On Nov 06, 2016
superstarDikk:
So what the bible says now is my choice. issokay, keep deceiving yourselves
You're actually the deceived bro
Re: Pastors And Thier Role In This Recession by Tallesty1(m): 8:45am On Nov 06, 2016
safarigirl:
lol....no, you don't have a clapback, hence you avoid the question

Radically blunt indeed
Radically dumb actually

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