brocab:
Bless Dolphinheart's heart-finely he is looking in the opposite direction.
Even if Jehovah means Lord-they recognise and worship Him as the Almighty God. And they don't even know it..

LIAR! nowhere have I said "Jehovah means lord"

brocab:
Try this one for size-The most obvious proof that Jehovah Witnesses spell YHWH wrong, as, "Jehovah" is the fact that the letter "J" doesn't exist in Hebrew Greek Latin, further the English language did not have the letter "J" before about 1500 AD, for example the very first edition of the KJV printed in 1611 AD Contained no "J" Not even one, instead the letter "I" is used for Jews.

You have a lot to learn, Is letter J not in jesus! is jesus a wrong spelling of the name of God?

It's more likely you have a lot to learn-Yes it is, Jehovah Iehovah [yah-ho vah} was never found in the 1611 KJV no "J" is written, Jesus is written as Iesus {Yay-shu} the Hebrew name is Yehoshua.
AS TIME WENT BY PEOPLE USED THEIR OWN SPELLING.

dolphinheart:


You have a lot to learn, Is letter J not in jesus! is jesus a wrong spelling of the name of God?

Interesting? So Jehovah doesn't mean God either-so who is Jehovah?
This really sounds silly, if Jehovah means God to you-then you call him God god..

dolphinheart:


LIAR! nowhere have I said "Jehovah means lord"

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brocab:
So if Dolphinheart believes there are other God's then he needs to figure out which God he recognises-which God he worships?

King James Version
1Co 8:5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Like the disciples, my God is the father, and the father alone, you on the other hand have added more than the father to your God!

Jesus told me who my God is
King James Version
Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

I know Jesus mediates between me and my God!
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,

Jehovah means Lord right? But he treats the Lord, like this, the JW's had given Him the above name above all. The Almighty.
[color=#000099]So without him ever understanding it, the JW's had recognised the lord as the Almighty, we Christians know God and Jesus carries the same name.

Wrong!, Jehovah does not mean lord. Lord is a different word with different meaning!

So the question is, "which god do they truly worship in their hearts?
JW's plus the Mormons and the Seven day Adventist walk side by side, they all believe in the same Rubbish-and when we look into it a little further we have nutters everywhere-some believe they were reincarnated and they returned back as Jesus, and there followers will always be followers.
All of these denominations have got to answer to the Lord when Judgement day arrives. It's a large risk to take, Jesus said go out unto all nations preaching His Gospel-not their gospel..
Many like the JW's believe Jesus was the Archangel Michael-so the truth is they worship after angels-and of course it is forbidden to do so.
But do they listen-preachers a business people-they either preach the truth about the gospel, or they steer it away from God's creation.
We just need to see the evidence around us..

I have used the scriptures to show you the God I worship, it is evident you don't worship that God!

brocab:
No you keep on saying I said He isn't the Son of God-it isn't your fault that you believe otherwise-your bible shows little truth-listen we blame your organisation they are the cause of all you lost souls ready to face the condemnation of Hell.

stop lying, you said Jesus is not the son of God, and I showed you where you said it on more than one occasion!

The word of God must drive you crazy-with the verses you lay down every time you answer back, trying to turn the bible to war against itself.

you wish. you cant provide one single example to support your false accusations.

Your arguments isn't an argument-you are warring against the Spirit-every scripture that had been quoted are from the same KJ's bible. Haba...

excuse you give when you see the truth and can't counter it!

God raised up Jesus from the dead-along with His Spirit and Jesus raised Himself up, as the scriptures are written.

Jesus knew who could raise him up from the dead, and he prayed fervently and vigorously to that one!
When God resurrected him, he placed him at his right hand, God did not resurrect himself nor place himself at his own right hand! God did not give himself a new name!

Like you quoted {Romans 8:11} So this argument is no longer an argument. And all the other mixer of verses, and with your so called explaining doesn't follow.

why are you afraid to quote and explain them!

Now finely you agree God is Spirit, and it was His Holy Spirit that raised up Jesus. {Romans 8:11}
So Dolphinheart try again...

You are so full of lies, I never said so!

brocab:
Yes they started to print the King James in America in the early 1900's.
The JW's followed after the King James bible until around the 1950's sometime after they wrote the New World Translation bible in 1960.
Until 1950 Jehovah Witnesses genially used the Authorised King James Version of the bible, However, the use of this translation of the scriptures created great problems for Witnesses in their proselytizes efforts, this only happen because a straightforward reading of the texts clearly contradicts every major teachings of the Watchtowers society.
In 1940 Nathan Knorr, than prescient of the Watchtower society proposed that the JW's produce their own New World Translation bible, the work had began in 1947 and finished in 1960.
{Lets look at Charles Russell a man on heavy medication Drugs-that through his aggressive behaviour towards his own wife who later divorce him, she walked away, Charles was a 33 rd degree Freemason who could only twist his words against the word of God}
Another Freemason who started up His Church J. Smith one that started the Mormons-both have simpler teachings, and both tried to destroy the truth about Christ-both organisations are classed as Cults.
Think about that Dolphinheart..

I said it, I said you are a liar and thus will not answer the question when you respond to my post:

DID THE JW PRINT THE KING JAMES VERSION YOU ARE USING?
DOES THE KJV VERSION YOU ARE USING HAVE THE WORD JEHOVAH IN IT?
CAN YOU POST ONE OF THOSE VERSES?

you will not answer these questions cus you are a liar!

YOU JUST PROVED ME RIGHT AGAIN!

brocab:
And we Christians are the few, sorry has anyone seen Dolphinheart?

YOU COULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION, ALWAYS TRYING TO USE MUNDANE ISSUES TO COVER IT UP!


[b]YOU ARE A LIAR, IS THE TETRAMAGRAM THAT IS ACCEPTED AS GODS NAME, THAT IS TRANSLATED AS JEHOVAH PRESENT IN THAT VERSE OR NOT?
If you wanto to lie, lie better lie, don't fomulate falsehood that can be easily debunked . 

I asked you a question about the kjv, you could not respond. popularity does not mean truth. narrow is the way and few are the ones finding it!

brocab:
It's more likely you have a lot to learn-Yes it is, Jehovah Iehovah [yah-ho vah} was never found in the 1611 KJV no "J" is written, Jesus is written as Iesus {Yay-shu} the Hebrew name is Yehoshua.
AS TIME WENT BY PEOPLE USED THEIR OWN SPELLING.

Good that you now understood how the letter J came about, so now why do you not call Iesus, why do you say jesus? knowing fully well that the letter J was not in the KJV?

brocab:
Interesting? So Jehovah doesn't mean God either-so who is Jehovah?
This really sounds silly, if Jehovah means God to you-then you call him God god..

first admit that you lied against me, I never said what you said I said!

Emusan

Emusan:


It's so dishearten seeing people who always claim to be knowledgeable and endorsed with scriptural understanding twisting the word of God as a result of the Anti-Christ spirit in them.

Let see whether Jesus is the Most High or not.


"For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth." Psalm 47:2 KJV

According to your Organization Jesus is the ideal King for God's kingdom as he(Jesus) is POWERFUL ENOUGH to help people because he(Jesus) will rule over the EARTH FROM HEAVEN. Good News Ch. 7 pg 14

Revelation calls Jesus "The King of kings"

All this gra gra will not help you, Psalm 47:2 is still reffering to Jehovah . which some translations substituted with " LORD " , so it still establish it that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH . the question still remains , is Jesus the most High ?

let's proceed and see if you will be able to answer this

Again, the Hebrew word for Most High is '<'elyown>' which means:
05945. Nwyle 'elyown, el-yone'
from 5927; an elevation, i.e. (adj.) lofty (compar.); as title, [size=27] the Supreme [/size] :--(Most, on) high(-er, -est), upper(-most).

@ the word "Supreme"

the Supreme court of Nigeria as an example to emphasize the meaning of the word most high . you will agree with me that the most high Court in Nigeria is THE SUPREME court . its the highest, does it sound intelligent that Supreme Court still have a Court in Nigeria greater than it is ?? abeg, if that's the case it won't be the Supreme or most High.

now, If Jesus is the SUPREME or Most High @ bold, Can the Supreme being still have a God ?
imagine the most high Saying " MY GOD " illogical!!! . you will never find such utterance from Jehovah

food for the intelligent mind!
Can the Most High / the Supreme still have A God ?

See how Psalmist used this for Jehovah
"For thou, LORD (Jehovah), art high above (elyown) all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods" Psalm 97:9 KJV

Of course , Jehovah is the most high .. He is the God of everyone including Jesus Christ himself . this the scripture testifies , so its fitting !

Yet in the New Testament it was Jesus who was exalted far above heaven and all gods.


I can give you more than three instances where Jesus was directly link with the name MOST HIGH but let me stop here and see your respond.

Unless if you want us to believe that Jesus and His Father are competing for the rank of the MOST HIGH.

the bolded part is the only reasonable part of the above post and to which I will reply.

was Jesus exalted by someone?

why would the Most high still need someone to exalt him since he is the most high ?


Furthermore, does this not prove that the one who Exalt him is GREATER than Jesus ?


If someone is GREATER than Jesus, does that not automatically disqualify him from the title " Most High " ?

dolphinheart:

then solve it, learn how to quote!



this are my words not yours, why are my statements added when quoting you.



ill reply you when you correct your post, I keep on finding my statements among your post when quoting you, I have stopped trying to edict what you posted , I'll reply according to what I see when I quote you.
By the way are you saying the scriptures contradicted itself, cos you refuse to explain why the disciples say their are many gods and who those God's Jehovah is judging in their middle are!

see excuse!
I never said the scripture contradicts itself stop lying!
It is you that said there are other gods besides Jehovah, when he said there is no one like him.

Did i refuse to explain? Here is the real explanation.
a god is a diety.

The word god can be used in the following ways

It can be used as a metaphor for rulers and powerful persons.

For example sons of God are called gods because they are great.
Another example is God making moses a god over pharaoh meaning moses was going to be made a powerful psrson in the eyes of pharaoh that pharaoh would fear moses.
Note: that it just a metaphor not to be taken literarily.
The second It can also be used to refer to deities that pagan worship.


1 Corinthians 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

why did paul said that there are many gods?
Because paul was speaking of the gods that exist in this world not the true of real God.

Paul in the next verse said but to us there is one God even the Father.

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Those gods are not gods by nature!

Galatians 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.

Jehovah said he is the only God there is no god besides him although other people may have other gods but israel had only one God, christians has only one God who is the true God.
Jehovah refers to himself as God meaning the real God.


the bible also said that the gods of the heathen are idols meaning vanity.

Psalms 96:5 For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.

If Jesus has the nature of the true God does that not make Jesus the true God?

Jehovah Witnesses falsely claim the bible removed YHWH' {Tetragrammaton} From the Old Testament.
The truth is, the JW's had added the divine name in the New Testament where it is never found in the original Greek Manuscripts, and blame the bible as being corrupted from the original where the YHWH was once found.
Rather then trashing their false doctrine, they trash the Bible.
It is obvious truth that the Jehovah Witnesses spell YHWH wrong as "Jehovah" is the fact that the "J" doesn't exist in Hebrew, Greek, or Latin, further the English language did not have the letter "J" before about 1500 AD. For example the very first addition of the KJV printed in 1611 AD CONTAINED NO "j".Not even one, instead the letter "I" for Jew Jesus, Joshua, John, Joanna.
In a stunning admission, Jehovah Witnesses tell us that the reason why they continual to use "Jehovah" instead of the correct spelling "Yahweh" is too be pleasing to Man-Not God.
One of the first things that JW new converts learn from their cultic Watchtower organisation, is a lie that all bibles is corrupt because they removed the tetregrammaton from the Old Testament. This sums it up pretty well..
Most JW's are so dismally mis-informed about the matter that they have an Idea how to even find the tetregrammaton in the original in Hebrew text of the Old Testament, much less then heard the item "Tetregrammaton"
What the JW's don't know is they are the ones who are truly guilty of adding the word of God, because of the New World Translation {The JW sectarian paraphrase they call a bible} Actually adds the word "Jehovah" in the New Testament 237 times where it is never found.
So the hard cold fact is that the New World Translation adds "Jehovah" into the New Testament 237 times where there is absolutely no ancient manuscripts evidence of any kind to support it.
I think this sizes it up pretty well..

dolphinheart:


YOU COULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION, ALWAYS TRYING TO USE MUNDANE ISSUES TO COVER IT UP!


[b]YOU ARE A LIAR, IS THE TETRAMAGRAM THAT IS ACCEPTED AS GODS NAME, THAT IS TRANSLATED AS JEHOVAH PRESENT IN THAT VERSE OR NOT?
If you wanto to lie, lie better lie, don't fomulate falsehood that can be easily debunked . 

I asked you a question about the kjv, you could not respond. popularity does not mean truth. narrow is the way and few are the ones finding it!

Oga brocab ... is Jesus the most High ?

duh God is the most high
God is God and the Word

God lowered Himself and became a man

flesh is a little lower than the Angels
in the Spirit God and the Word - Jesus is the most High

but false jw will never and can never see - understand

dolphinheart:


God himself said " that is my name" when telling us his name is Jehovah
pls give us another name Jehovah directly told you his name is, pls show where the almighthy God said my name is so so and so other than the name "Jehovah".

The post is long , yes , it's just to show that the places where the scriptures identify God's name as Jehovah is flenty!

The scripture tells us that their are many gods , in heaven and on earth, but the name of the most high God, the almighty God, the ancient of days , is Jehovah, THAT IS HIS NAME!

lie lie dolphinheart


you are running away again changing the subject
duh yes Jehovah is a name for God, duh most know that

address my issues instead of twisting and changing the subject which is lying and deceit.


My subject as you know is "Jehovah means God", address what I have said on that and see if it's possible for you to stop lying.

ha ha we already know that is not possible, don't we


Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

The JW's did print the NKJV I did use for quite sometime, matter of fact I was reading the NKJV without knowing it didn't line up with the Word of God as the Old KJV does..
Only Seven times Jehovah was written in the Old Testament of the Old KJV {Genesis, Judges, and Psalms once, while it appears twice in Isaiah and Exodus} That's it, no other verses pronounces His Name. Not like your bible you have written Jehovah even in the New Testament.
"SATAN'S FINAL DECEPTION" The JW's printed the NKJV on their own pressers, by 1992 the Witnesses had produced 1,858,368 copies.
An interesting note that needs to be knowing, is that {Hebrews 9:15-20} in the NKJV lines up side by side with the New World Translation bible, lets look more into this and look at the doctrines dealing with Salvation the NWT and the NKJV both bibles line up.
The NKJV that was printed on the JW's pressers confuses people about salvation in {Hebrews 10:14} it replaces the original KJV "that are Sanctified" with "are being Sanctified"
In {1 Corinthians 1:18, and 2 Corinthians 2:15} The Words "may believe" Have been replaced "may continual to believe" in {1 John 5:13}
The Old straight and "Narrow" way of {Matthew 7:14} has become "difficult" Way in the NKJV.
The NKJV "gives no command to study Gods Word" nor does the NWT "gives no command" {2 Timothy 2:15}
KJV {Matthew 20:20} Then came to Him the Mother of Zebedee's children with Her son's, "Worshipping Him"
NKJV Came to Him "kneeling down".
A deadly translation indeed.
{Daniel 7:25} He will speak against the Most High and shall wear out the saints of the most High and think to change times and laws, and the Holy ones will be handed over to him for a time, times, and half a time..

dolphinheart:


I said it, I said you are a liar and thus will not answer the question when you respond to my post:

DID THE JW PRINT THE KING JAMES VERSION YOU ARE USING?
DOES THE KJV VERSION YOU ARE USING HAVE THE WORD JEHOVAH IN IT?
CAN YOU POST ONE OF THOSE VERSES?

you will not answer these questions cus you are a liar!

YOU JUST PROVED ME RIGHT AGAIN!

You wouldn't know what is a lie-because you don't know what is the truth.

dolphinheart:


first admit that you lied against me, I never said what you said I said!

dolphinheart:

STOP LYING AGAINST ME!

false accuser, you have done multiple post on Jehovah being the name of God,
whereas the subject is the meaning of Jehovah, oh running away one

false accuser, you have said more than once that Jehovah doesn't mean God, oh lying one

dolphinheart:

you have issues with grammar.
you read that Jehovah means self existent, does self existent mean God? no

the adjective "self existent" describes Jehovah,
the noun "the self existent" is Jehovah, and Jehovah is God

Jehovah means the self existent
the self existrent means God
Jehovah means God. so simple, but not for the blinded.

dolphinheart:

, go and read up on the definition of God and see why the Hebrews have different words for God and Jehovah, those words don't mean the same thing!

God has different names with different meanings, He cannot be limited in any way, certinally not by the few meanings given in a dictionary.
We are dealing here with the self existent being the meaning of Jehovah

dolphinheart:

1. I've helped you underlined the part you cannot see, the parts which is confirmed by the scriptures.

duh, we know Jehovah means Jewish national name of God
Jehovah also means the self existent, which is what I am discussing and what you keep running away from

dolphinheart:

The confusion exists only in your mind, alternating and adding to the meaning of Jehovah given to you. nowhere will you see the statement Jehovah means God", except from the mouth of people like you!.

even the KJV does not say Jehovah means God:
JEHO'VAH, n. The Scripture name of the Supreme Being.If, as is supposed, this name is from the Hebrew substantive verb, the word denotes the Permanent Being, as the primary sense of the substantive verb in all languages, is to be fixed, to stand, to remain or abide. This is a name peculiarly appropriate to the eternal Spirit, the unchangeable God, who describes himself thus, I am that I am. Ex.3.

Ha ha, the blind as a bat one accuses of confusion
you take after your god



2Co 4:3  But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 
2Co 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 

Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

dolphinheart:


AS YOU CAN FROM THE SCRIPTURES AND DICTIONARIES AND EVEN FROM YOUR QUOTE, JEHOVAH IS THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE ISREALITES, JEHOVAH DOES MEAN GOD!.

Yes Jehovah does mean God, that's what I have been saying.

dolphinheart:


that jehovah is the only self existant God does not mean jehovah means God!

All of your lying, twisting, changing the subject and playing on words has you in a continual state of confusion.

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Jesus was "Called the Son of God" it doesn't mean He truly is. The bible describe Him as a part being of God-3 in One, I and the Father are One. It took all three to create the heavens and the Earth.
There is no-mention God even had a Son in the Old Testament.
Jesus is preferred as God in the scriptures, {John 1:1,14}
{John 20:28} Thomas said My Lord and My God.
{Titus 2:13} Wait for the coming of our God and savour Jesus Christ.
Thomas knew God who came in the flesh.
{Hebrews 1:8} The Father say's to His Son, your throne O'God is forever and ever..
Now why would the Most High call Jesus O'God-if they weren't One with each other, God saves-Jesus saves and came here to live amongst men and He became knowing to His people, He is the Son Of God.
It was the Spirit that told "John the baptised" who also was filled with the Holy Spirit, was told this is My Son in Him I Am well pleased.
Not everyone around John that day, heard the Spirit say this to John.
If they did they wouldn't try and stone Jesus when He called Himself the Son of God.
So how simple does this sound-it must be difficult, only because the Spirit of God isn't in you-for anyone else who has the Spirit of God in them, understands how simple this is.

dolphinheart:

stop lying, you said Jesus is not the son of God, and I showed you where you said it on more than one occasion!


you wish. you cant provide one single example to support your false accusations.

excuse you give when you see the truth and can't counter it!


Jesus knew who could raise him up from the dead, and he prayed fervently and vigorously to that one!
When God resurrected him, he placed him at his right hand, God did not resurrect himself nor place himself at his own right hand! God did not give himself a new name!

why are you afraid to quote and explain them!


You are so full of lies, I never said so!

Brocab

Jesus was "Called the Son of God" it doesn't mean He truly is.

You are not a Christian or probably you lack the knowledge as to why he and every other creature are called Son of God. If he isn't truly a son, then the Bible lied including the Father .

not just was called , He IDENTIFIED himself " Son of God " Revelation 2:18 . was he lying ?



The apostle Peter make it clear that Jesus is the son of the Living God , and Jesus not only commend but endorse this as a scriptural truth when he said it was the Father that reveal it to Peter.





His FATHER spoke from Heaven saying " This is my Son " Matt 3:17


He is truly a Son .

Brocab

Jesus was "Called the Son of God" it doesn't mean He truly is.

You are not a Christian or probably you lack the knowledge as to why he and every other creature are called Son of God. If he isn't truly a son, then the Bible lied including the Father ?

not just was called , He IDENTIFIED himself " Son of God " Revelation 2:18 . was he lying ?



The apostle Peter make it clear that Jesus is the son of the Living God , and Jesus not only commend but endorse this as a scriptural truth when he said it was the Father that reveal it to Peter.





His FATHER spoke from Heaven saying " This is my Son " Matt 3:17


He is truly a Son .

johnw74

johnw74:




the Word - Jesus is the most High

your posts are incoherent , babbles and illogically presented .

Now , regarding the above . Let's see 1 Cor 11:3


" I want you to know that ... the HEAD of the Christ is God "



the most High cannot have an Head .
Having a Head indicates been subjected to an Higher Authority.

Can you now see that Christ Jesus is not the most high and cannot be Jehovah , considering Psalm 83:18 .

so you are mistaken .

brocab:
Bless Dolphinheart's heart-finely he is looking in the opposite direction.
Even if Jehovah means Lord-they recognise and worship Him as the Almighty God. And they don't even know it..

dolphinheart:


LIAR! nowhere have I said "Jehovah means lord"

This raging accusing spirit is in nearly every one of lie lie dolphinheart's posts.

Barristter07:
johnw74



your posts are incoherent , babbles and illogically presented .

lie lie barristter

Just more lies from you, my posts are incoherent , babbles and illogically presented to your lack of undrstanding.

Barristter07:

Now , regarding the above . Let's see 1 Cor 11:3


" I want you to know that ... the HEAD of the Christ is God "


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the most High cannot have an Head .
[/size] Having a Head indicates been subjected to an Higher Authority.

Can you now see that Christ Jesus is not the most high and cannot be Jehovah , considering Psalm 83:18 .

so you are mistaken .

the head of Christ is God, God lowered Himself and became flesh, Christ in the flesh has a God the Father
in the Spirit Jesus is the word of God, who was with God and is God

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

lie lie you have no understanding.

Barristter07:
Emusan



@ the word "Supreme"

the Supreme court of Nigeria as an example to emphasize the meaning of the word most high . you will agree with me that the most high Court in Nigeria is THE SUPREME court . its the highest, does it sound intelligent that Supreme Court still have a Court in Nigeria greater than it is ?? abeg, if that's the case it won't be the Supreme or most High.

now, If Jesus is the SUPREME or Most High @ bold, Can the Supreme being still have a God ?
imagine the most high Saying " MY GOD " illogical!!! . you will never find such utterance from Jehovah

food for the intelligent mind!
Can the Most High / the Supreme still have A God ?

lie lie barristter

the most High is the Supreme


Mat 22:44  The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? 

The Greek for "LORD" who is the Father, is kurios which means supreme
the Greek for "Lord" who is Jesus, is kurios which means supreme



G2962
κύριος
kurios
koo'-ree-os
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.
Total KJV occurrences: 748


Matthew who quoted Jesus used the same word "kurios" to describe both Father and Son

God and the Word is God, the Most High, the Supreme.

No the bible didn't lie-it is the JW's who lie against the truth. You may see me as a lessor Christian then yourself-I already know none of you are willing to listen to any truth. The bottom line is, the truth doesn't exist in you.
And every true believer would say Amen...

Barristter07:
Brocab



You are not a Christian or probably you lack the knowledge as to why he and every other creature are called Son of God. If he isn't truly a son, then the Bible lied including the Father ?

not just was called , He IDENTIFIED himself " Son of God " Revelation 2:18 . was he lying ?



The apostle Peter make it clear that Jesus is the son of the Living God , and Jesus not only commend but endorse this as a scriptural truth when he said it was the Father that reveal it to Peter.





His FATHER spoke from Heaven saying " This is my Son " Matt 3:17


He is truly a Son .

This is where the lies pour out from you, Every scripture doesn't say Jesus is the Son of God-matter of fact Jesus said, I and the Father are One.

Barristter07:
Brocab



You are not a Christian or probably you lack the knowledge as to why he and every other creature are called Son of God. If he isn't truly a son, then the Bible lied including the Father .

not just was called , He IDENTIFIED himself " Son of God " Revelation 2:18 . was he lying ?



The apostle Peter make it clear that Jesus is the son of the Living God , and Jesus not only commend but endorse this as a scriptural truth when he said it was the Father that reveal it to Peter.





His FATHER spoke from Heaven saying " This is my Son " Matt 3:17


He is truly a Son .

Sorry to disappoint you, But notice what Peter said you are truly the son of the living God..Meaning the Father is alive in Spirit and in truth. Emmanuel means God with us.
{Matthew 1:23}The virgin will give birth to a Son and He shall be "Called" Emmanuel..

Barristter07:
Brocab



You are not a Christian or probably you lack the knowledge as to why he and every other creature are called Son of God. If he isn't truly a son, then the Bible lied including the Father ?

not just was called , He IDENTIFIED himself " Son of God " Revelation 2:18 . was he lying ?



The apostle Peter make it clear that Jesus is the son of the Living God , and Jesus not only commend but endorse this as a scriptural truth when he said it was the Father that reveal it to Peter.





His FATHER spoke from Heaven saying " This is my Son " Matt 3:17


He is truly a Son .

JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES BELIEVE & TEACH
1. THAT Jesus Christ (who is Michael the
Archangel in their doctrine) is mediator for only
a small, elite, group within their ranks called the
“anointed remnant”. Others must come to this
group who control the organization and earn
their salvation by absolute obedience to it.
2. THAT all religions except their’s are of Satan,
and your Pastor or Priest is under the Devil’s
control.
3. THAT the Watchtower Society is the only
source of truth on earth today, and all churches
teach error and will be destroyed at
Armageddon.
4. THAT the cross is a pagan symbol of sex
worship, and that all buildings or persons
displaying the cross are likewise pagan.
Jehovah’s Witnesses deny that Jesus died on the
cross. However, “new light” in the Watchtower
Magazine has admitted they are not certain
about the cross, but will continue to deny it
anyway.
5. THAT no one goes to heaven but 144,000
Jehovah’s Witnesses, and your soul will be
destroyed if you refuse to join their
organization.
6. THAT the Christ child was only an “IT”, not a
“HE”. See the New World Translation, Luke
2:16,17.
7. THAT Jesus was not the Christ (or Messiah)
until age 30, even though their own bible says in
Luke 2:11, “because there was born to you
today a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.”
8. THAT after Jesus was buried in the tomb,
Jehovah dissolved his body into gasses and it
disappeared forever.
9. THAT Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so
Jehovah had to “materialize” a fake body for
him complete with fake nail prints so His
disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.
10. THAT Armageddon and Christ’s second
coming were foretold to happen in 1874, 1914,
1925 and 1975 by this “non-prophet”
organization.
11. THAT when Christ failed to show up in 1914
The Society claimed in later years that He had
come—invisibly—of course, and all Jehovah’s
Witnesses believe this today.
12. THAT Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc., were
to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925.
The Society built a palatial home for them BUT,
when the patriarchs failed to show up, the
President of the Society moved in.
13. THAT their light gets “brighter and brighter”,
allowing for the many changes and “about
faces” on their doctrines. Yesterday’s error is
today’s “truth”. Often the “light” bounces back
and forth from old to new views and back again!
Does real light return to darkness?
14. THAT the Watchtower Society and its
followers are all prophets of God today and the
Governing Body is directed by angels from God.
15. THAT salvation for Society members
consists of doing the good works of placing
Watchtower books and magazines and winning
converts.
16. THAT soon Jehovah God will become a
GRANDFATHER and Jesus will be promoted to
“EVERLASTING FATHER”!
17. THAT Jehovah God is not omnipresent, but
still Almighty. Think! How can this be?
They have NOT BEEN TOLD —By the
leadership of the Society
1. THAT when they translated their New World
Translation of the Bible they deliberately altered
almost every scripture on the Deity of Christ, to
make him only a creature.
2. THAT the Society used a translation by a
SPIRIT MEDIUM, Johannes Greber, to support
their rendering of John 1:1 with full knowledge
that his sources were DEMONIC. Greber was
exposed in the Feb. 15/56 W.T. However in 1961
they released a translation based on his occult
one then denied they knew what they were
doing on page 31 of the Apr. 1, 1983
Watchtower!
3. THAT none of their “translating committee”
knew Biblical Greek or Hebrew. No scholars at
all.
4. THAT Fred Franz, who for many years
headed the Society, perjured himself under
oath in Scotland in a court trial, by saying he
could read Hebrew, and then failing a simple
Hebrew test.
5. THAT the following encyclopedias consider
the name “JEHOVAH” to be FALSE Merits Student
Enc.; Encyclopedia Americana; The Jewish
Encyclopedia; Encyclopedia International, The
Interpreters Dictionary of the Bible; The New
Catholic Encyclopedia; The Universal Jewish
Encyclopedia, etc.
6. Jehovah’s Witness’s own “Aid” book admits
on pages 884 & 885 that “Jehovah” was first
recorded by a Catholic monk about 700 years
ago!
7. THAT the date 1874 was taught for Christ’s
invisible presence by the Society until l929. (See
their book, “Prophecy”, p. 65. sold until 1941.
Also WT. Jan 1, 1924, p. 5.)
8. THAT top executives of the Society have
admitted under oath that they forced their
members to accept false prophecies or face
disfellowshipping and be found worthy of
death.
9. THAT true salvation is FREE (Ephesians 2: 8 &
9), and consists of receiving Christ as your
Savior. (John 1:12 , John 6: 28, 29).

Barristter07:
Emusan



@ the word "Supreme"

the Supreme court of Nigeria as an example to emphasize the meaning of the word most high . you will agree with me that the most high Court in Nigeria is THE SUPREME court . its the highest, does it sound intelligent that Supreme Court still have a Court in Nigeria greater than it is ?? abeg, if that's the case it won't be the Supreme or most High.

now, If Jesus is the SUPREME or Most High @ bold, Can the Supreme being still have a God ?
imagine the most high Saying " MY GOD " illogical!!! . you will never find such utterance from Jehovah

food for the intelligent mind!
Can the Most High / the Supreme still have A God ?

lie lie barristter07 pretends to be a real Barrister, but he cannot even spell the word
although it is possible he is a real Barrister because some are like him, not smart at all

an example of some lawyers at work:


Attorney: This myasthenia gravis, does it
affect your memory at all?

Witness: Yes.

Attorney: And in which way does it affect your
memory?

Witness: I forget.

Attornry: You forget? Can you give us an
example of something you forgot?

******************

Attorney: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a
person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it
until the next morning?

Witness: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

******************

Attorney: The youngest son, the twenty-year-
old, how old is he?

Witness: Uh, he's twenty.