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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 5:51pm On Nov 13, 2016
zoboizee:
@OdenigboAroli, The Goodjoe & @The SuperNerd, you guys are spot on in yours analysis.
*Iheanacho was impressive ysterdy. Our bench wont do better judging by their standard.#Fact.
* Alex was very poor in the second half. As at 52nd mins ought to have been taken off.
* @ goldfish80, Onazi is an indiscipline defensive midfielder so expect to see him in joining attack. David luis is another example. Personally, i will prefer mikel in that role while ndidi patner him & etebo ahead of them.
* Victor moses loves to run at defenders. it is only a CF that is prepared for give & take passes with him that will enjoy him. Hardly the type crossing into the box. Guess we saw from the FKs he took. Nothing threatening. Is like expecting a delightful cross from Echiejile, u go dry finish for sunsmiley

Its nice you brought up the issue about Mikel playing in his more comfortable holding midfield... Honestly,I don't fancy the guy as an attacking midfielder. It limits our potentials. To make it worse , he doesn't help in pressing. That annoys me. Nigga need to press like Iheanacho and Etebor.

Secondly,about Victor Moses,dude is one of the most selfish player I have seen like Okocha used to be. Its good to run and dribble but the end product determines your quality. Those two goals were just due to poor defending from Algeria. Take away the two goals and you will find out he flopped.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 5:51pm On Nov 13, 2016
44" Egypt 1-0 Ghana
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:59pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Its nice you brought up the issue about Mikel playing in his more comfortable holding midfield... Honestly,I don't fancy the guy as an attacking midfielder. It limits our potentials. To make it worse , he doesn't help in pressing. That annoys me. Nigga need to press like Iheanacho and Etebor.

Secondly,about Victor Moses,dude is one of the most selfish player I have seen like Okocha used to be. Its good to run and dribble but the end product determines your quality. Those two goals were just due to poor defending from Algeria. Take away the two goals and you will find out he flopped.

There is a big misconception about Okocha. He was not selfish but a brilliant 10. I also had that concept too but it is wrong. Okocha was a good passer and passed regularly.

As for Mikel, he is in the best role that suits him. His intelligent choices while passing unlocks stubborn defences. I say he keeps his role.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:00pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:
Onazi was the sitting DM yet he was no where to be found when Bentaleb lunched his bullet. I am sick and tired of people always mopping about what a workaholic Onazi ,while we have players who can go combat and still create play in the midfield.
Like I said they interchange that's y Etebo was the one sitting. I still say he should have kicked Mahrez.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:02pm On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


There is a big misconception about Okocha. He was not selfish but a brilliant 10. I also had that concept too but it is wrong. Okocha was a good passer and passed regularly.

As for Mikel, he is in the best role that suits him. His intelligent choices while passing unlocks stubborn defences. I say he keeps his role.

Okocha get often carried away around the 18yrd box.
Mikel is not the answer to our attacking midfield problems. We can do better. Maybe it's time to consider Aluko.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:06pm On Nov 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:

Like I said they interchange that's y Etebo was the one sitting. I still say he should have kicked Mahrez.

Interchanging is a bad idea when Onazi is involved. He need to sit still and dont move around, Etebor will do the roaming. Onazi is a lot like Seyi Olofinjana, he is not too good with the ball on his feet.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:09pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Mikel was average yesterday,he didn't have a great game. He needs to work harder for the team and press more. He weakness didn't show because Etebor was working for both him and erratic Onazi.
I didn't watch the game, but you're the first person to mention this

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:12pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Okocha get often carried away around the 18yrd box.
Mikel is not the answer to our attacking midfield problems. We can do better. Maybe it's time to consider Aluko.

I repeat he was elegant, combined well with the team and unlocked the defences with tidy passing.

Although I want Aluko in camp to promote competition in roles and give us different approaches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:13pm On Nov 13, 2016
safarigirl:
I didn't watch the game, but you're the first person to mention this

First I watched then I went back and studied it. I think some people got carried away by the goal he scored,just like some people think Iwobi was a class act yesterday...lol

Honestly,Etebor's hard work yesterday saved our midfield. Mikel can put in a great performance but I didn't see it in that match. It was Etebor everywhere,spreading passes,tackling,blocking and running like a possesed man.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:16pm On Nov 13, 2016
safarigirl:
I didn't watch the game, but you're the first person to mention this

Mikel was not average. The team all had challenges. Not just Iheanacho or Iwobi. I pointed out to people where I watched the game that people are missing how good the Algerians are.

It was a tough contest and we came out on top. Like others, Mikel had tough times but grew into the game. Created some beautiful artwork with his combinative passes. Showed strenght and ball control while shielding the ball. He was no way near average.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:17pm On Nov 13, 2016
Is anyone as concerned for Ghana right now as I am?

Na so Ghana no go go World Cup? I know it's Racist Russia, but come on!

We need to keep our mandatory 3 spots in the World Cup, only Nigeria and Cote d'Ivoire are trying so far, if Ghana can't step up, Burkina Faso will have to edge out SA for that spot since Tunisia and Egypt are running their geoups.

West Africa must sha have our 3 World Cup reps

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


First I watched then I went back and studied it. I think some people got carried away by the goal he scored,just like some people think Iwobi was a class act yesterday...lol

Iwobi made classic play in build-up, switching play and Drifting to combine with Mikel.

However, he had big challenge breaking into the Algerian defence. He once again got tired early. Still blending with the African weather.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:29pm On Nov 13, 2016
safarigirl:
Is anyone as concerned for Ghana right now as I am?

Na so Ghana no go go World Cup? I know it's Racist Russia, but come on!

We need to keep our mandatory 3 spots in the World Cup, only Nigeria and Cote d'Ivoire are trying so far, if Ghana can't step up, Burkina Faso will have to edge out SA for that spot since Tunisia and Egypt are running their geoups.

West Africa must sha have our 3 World Cup reps



Nne,your head correct wella. Actually, I was going for 4 places for West Africa,Senegal,Nigeria,Ghana and Ivory Coast. I know Senegal will qualify but I fear for Ghana.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OdenigboAroli(m): 6:31pm On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Iwobi made classic play in build-up, switching play and Drifting to combine with Mikel.

However, he had big challenge breaking into the Algerian defence. He once again got tired early. Still blending with the African weather.

Iwobi was not a threat to the Algerians.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 6:34pm On Nov 13, 2016
Just got an info, Nigeria have a friendly against Egypt in Dubai in January
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 6:41pm On Nov 13, 2016
@OdenigboAroli. You'r spot on.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 6:47pm On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Iwobi made classic play in build-up, switching play and Drifting to combine with Mikel.
However, he had big challenge breaking into the Algerian defence. He once again got tired early. Still blending with the African weather.

Iwobi always fizzle out in the second half. Even in Arsenal, he is always taken out first. Mind you, his form has dropped of late, unless we r not being truthful. An exquisite talent no doubt, but does he have the physicality & energy against cameroon? Time will tell.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:49pm On Nov 13, 2016
safarigirl:


You speak such English and think you have a right to critique anyone anywhere?

What is "all what you said"... Which brand of English is that?

I never said you hate Mikel, but you came to a conclusion that you certainly must believe true.

Iheanacho has one bad game and you say he should sit for one unknown star you plan to bring from China, after that. Let us forget his 4/4, let us forget his winning goal against Zambia, let us forget his many assists. No, no need to give him a second chqnce. We'll bench him for one 'star' sonewhere. If that is not silly talk, it must be from the angle of a butt-hurt person, so uncle, which is it?

PS: My diction is perfect and this jargons you wrote did not mention any 'star'...give us the 'stars' in your team and what they have done to earn such a title. You can't even use terms properly and you think my arguments are baseless without giving yours a base. Stars indeed.

Mtchewwww

diction? Sis, you don't go through medical school for 6 years if you are not smart. I would have pointed out a lot of errors in this your particular comment but unlike you, I'm a busy dude and what I typed there, I typed it out of anger because clearly you didn't join the conversation from the start and you just jumped in with your utter rubbish.

Did I say Iheanacho must sit? Another senseless and entirely useless point when you consider the context in question. Your nonsense talk was totally not connected to what I said. Now please, if your frustration(whatever might be the cause) has died down, calmly go back and read the entire argument I had with Goodjoe then come back and explain to me the meaning of this rubbish you have been posting since

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 7:00pm On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Mikel was not average. The team all had challenges. Not just Iheanacho or Iwobi. I pointed out to people where I watched the game that people are missing how good the Algerians are.

It was a tough contest and we came out on top. Like others, Mikel had tough times but grew into the game. Created some beautiful artwork with his combinative passes. Showed strenght and ball control while shielding the ball. He was no way near average.
mikel played above average ystdy, mikel is masterclass. pure and simple. wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 7:01pm On Nov 13, 2016
egypt beating ghana 2-0 now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 7:06pm On Nov 13, 2016
safarigirl:
Is anyone as concerned for Ghana right now as I am?

Na so Ghana no go go World Cup? I know it's Racist Russia, but come on!

We need to keep our mandatory 3 spots in the World Cup, only Nigeria and Cote d'Ivoire are trying so far, if Ghana can't step up, Burkina Faso will have to edge out SA for that spot since Tunisia and Egypt are running their geoups.

West Africa must sha have our 3 World Cup reps


u think burkina faso can beat SA away? recall SA held them in burkina faso's home-ground, though the group is still open with SA and B.Faso leading the group with 4 points each, i still feel SA might win that group
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:10pm On Nov 13, 2016
Loftus Cheek is injured, does that Mikel returns to the bench or will Conte look for another academy player?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 7:16pm On Nov 13, 2016
mikron:
u think burkina faso can beat SA away? recall SA held them in burkina faso's home-ground, though the group is still open with SA and B.Faso leading the group with 4 points each, i still feel SA might win that group
a three point lead is nothing o bro,,, anybody can still win that group.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 7:17pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:
Onazi was the sitting DM yet he was no where to be found when Bentaleb lunched his bullet. I am sick and tired of people always mopping about what a workaholic Onazi ,while we have players who can go combat and still create play in the midfield.

Am not so sure but was Onazi not the 17 shirted player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by klexycole(m): 7:18pm On Nov 13, 2016
optional1:




oh oh finally u av missed me....


Don't worry i'm coming over this weekend cheesy

Wow! That's gonna be awesome. grin Would be expecting kiss

Mikron no look here o tongue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 7:20pm On Nov 13, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Its nice you brought up the issue about Mikel playing in his more comfortable holding midfield... Honestly,I don't fancy the guy as an attacking midfielder. It limits our potentials. To make it worse , he doesn't help in pressing. That annoys me. Nigga need to press like Iheanacho and Etebor.

Secondly,about Victor Moses,dude is one of the most selfish player I have seen like Okocha used to be. Its good to run and dribble but the end product determines your quality. Those two goals were just due to poor defending from Algeria. Take away the two goals and you will find out he flopped.
Your submission is borne out of bias.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by shogz89: 7:21pm On Nov 13, 2016
tbaba1234:
Loftus Cheek is injured, does that Mikel returns to the bench or will Conte look for another academy player?
the best thing you can do for mikel now is to pray he dosent get played until December then he finds a new club rather than keeping him on the bench and creating false hope that he will ever get played again.. That guy is not in conte's plan for what ever reason. Not even now that the team is doing extremely well without him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by klexycole(m): 7:21pm On Nov 13, 2016
tbaba1234:
Loftus Cheek is injured, does that Mikel returns to the bench or will Conte look for another academy player?

With his performance over the weekend, I think Conte would consider playing him except there's a personal beef between them.

Let's wait and see.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by optional1(f): 7:45pm On Nov 13, 2016
klexycole:

Wow! That's gonna be awesome. grin Would be expecting kiss
Mikron no look here o tongue



Yes dear prepare my favorite cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:47pm On Nov 13, 2016
safarigirl:


A certified coach with experience still giving Iheanacho props and some nobodies on here are yarning dust.

Field your imaginary stars now, since we have Coutinho and Mane on the bench somewhere



ok now I get your problem.
First of all, there is a difference between STAR and SUPERSTAR. Then you also have to learn something called 'relativity' in sentence construction. For a player in the NPFL, a starter for Watford is a star, I am not a professional player so for me, Ighalo, Ideye and Musa are stars not superstars, so much for your diction.

Now let me explain what I was discussing with Goodjoe. We were having an argument about Kelechi's contributions yesterday, I just pointed out that he wasn't great, Goodjoe was defending him, so I asked him if Nacho is untouchable? Now that's entirely different from saying that Nacho should sit on the bench for our next game, everybody has a bad game once in a while. Please, try to read the entire argument next time before you jump in.

Now considering what you just said, it shows that you are mistaking a superstar for an ordinary star. Iheanacho is not a superstar yet, just a star. Ighalo(the highest goalscorer for Watford last season) is even a bigger star, Ideye(the highest goalscorer for the greek champs) is another star and then Ahmed Musa is a top top star, he is a champions league regular. So we have stars on the bench, Fanendo Adi is another star in the MLS, star not superstar.

Anyways, I'm sorry I lost my temper, but please next time try to understand something before you comment on it, maybe you just clicked on the last page.

Now let's argue this, if a player(in this case Kayode) plays better than another player(Iheanacho) in training, should we start the second player because he is a star and the other player isn't? This is exactly the problem with Benzema and Morata now at Madrid
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 7:56pm On Nov 13, 2016
Certitude:

Your submission is borne out of bias.
I don't think his submission is borne out of bias. Did u see mikel's miscue at the edge of the box. Look, Mikel is a delight to watch in DMF than Onazi. Very disciplined. In 2013, against Ivory coast, he was simply a joy to behold. Marking, intercepting & initiating attack with simple but delightful passes. Onazi is better off running up & down the channels. We don't need to be asking Mikel to choose his preferred position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:12pm On Nov 13, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I dont have to burn "mb" to show you anything. A game I watched and downloaded to view critically again... Looollll

Just admit how wrong you are.... smiley

Just say you dont understand the "sitting" and the "roaming" pivot roles...

You think it's by being "over-analytical" that shows you make sense. Nope .... It's by being as simple as possible in explanations.

You are wrong so just face it. Loollll


LOL lol lol... Analysis is not simple my guy. If it were simple clubs won't pay millions of dollars to buy data analysis companies. Technical advisers and federations would not pay top dollar to engage the services of video and data analysts.
I've noticed you don't exactly watch the tactical part of football. I remember one time you jumped in an argument where you supported TheGoodJoe that Eduardo Vargas is Chile's main striker and Alexis Sanchez was the winger. When push came to shove, you couldn't prove Sanchez played in the wings while Vargas lead the line ... Lol lol lol
We played a double pivot last night with Etebo and Onazi as the duo in the 4-2-3-1 formation while Mikel played as the box to box midfielder.
Just take it that you leant something from me grin

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