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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:06am On Mar 02, 2017
GloryIsaac:


This is exactly the problem..... Over reliance on a 35yr old player.... When Zlatan went on a goal drought, we succeeded in winning only one match out of six, thats very bad... it cant continue like this .. The other top clubs have a host of players to rely on when it comes to winning matches but its not the same here and thats b'cos its a Zlatan characteristic that he always turns out to be the spear head wherever he goes (something he couldn't do at Barca b'cos of Messi, guess thats why he left sad ), so automatically when Zlatan doesn't play well, same goes with the team..... What if he gets injured , i bet we'll go on a drawing and losing streak till he comes back and thats not right... The only way Manutd is ever gonn' get back to her glory days is if the team realises that we dont need a sole star player to win matches... Look at a scenario where we qualify for Champs league, get merged with Madrid, then Ronaldo gets injured, do you think Madrid fans will be scared about losing to us , No way!, they still have Bale, Benzema, James and Co to rely on.. But turn the situation around, if Ibra gets injured, i bet you know how its gonna go down sad.. i still believe PSG wont have beaten Barca if Ibra was in that squad ( No hating on him though)

Splendid. You've actually spoken well, and listed out good points.

Now answer this question- will we still be in the 6th position if other players stepped up during Zlat's drought and scored goals?

The problem is not Zlat not scoring goals, the problem is others are not- he's the only one scoring goals. If one of Martial, Pogba, Mata, Mhiki or Herrera scores once in every game how will things be?

Now remove the bad-belle clothing blocking your eyes and think like a Man Utd fan grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 10:47am On Mar 02, 2017
GloryIsaac:


This is exactly the problem..... Over reliance on a 35yr old player.... When Zlatan went on a goal drought, we succeeded in winning only one match out of six, thats very bad... it cant continue like this .. The other top clubs have a host of players to rely on when it comes to winning matches but its not the same here and thats b'cos its a Zlatan characteristic that he always turns out to be the spear head wherever he goes (something he couldn't do at Barca b'cos of Messi, guess thats why he left sad ), so automatically when Zlatan doesn't play well, same goes with the team..... What if he gets injured , i bet we'll go on a drawing and losing streak till he comes back and thats not right... The only way Manutd is ever gonn' get back to her glory days is if the team realises that we dont need a sole star player to win matches..
when zlat was on a goal drought, the best thing we should have expected was for Jose to substitute him, not by we relying on other teammates on d field of play with him. Though its rational to expect a reasonable amount of goals coming from other players but playing Ibrahim consistently for 90mins in every match (whether or not he scores) is not ideal in my own opinion
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by zlatan10(m): 11:43am On Mar 02, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 11:55am On Mar 02, 2017
zlatan10:
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Leave them....some of them go soon dive enter lagoon if them hear the latest! Zlatan is even hoping for a 2 year deal till 2019!


How will the guy who the coach and the staff see in training from monday to saturday and who still goes into the team and posts such stats and delivers be hindering the progress of all those who are younger and faster than him who are also given the same chance to impress in training but who hardly deliver when they are called upon on match days? See blackburn match for instance.....was it zlatan and pogba that caused them to play crap until they both came in to save the game? Or it was him that said martial should be crap all season long until recently? Or rooney?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:45pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:



Leave them....some of them go soon dive enter lagoon if them hear the latest! Zlatan is even hoping for a 2 year deal till 2019!


How will the guy who the coach and the staff see in training from monday to saturday and who still goes into the team and posts such stats and delivers be hindering the progress of all those who are younger and faster than him who are also given the same chance to impress in training but who hardly deliver when they are called upon on match days? See blackburn match for instance.....was it zlatan and pogba that caused them to play crap until they both came in to save the game? Or it was him that said martial should be crap all season long until recently? Or rooney?

I used to be one of those who disliked Ibrahimovic based purely on some of his wayward passes, lost possession or missed chances. But then i had to revisit virtually all the highlights of our matches this season to understand how wasteful the rest have been. Ibrahimovic does everything for this team. When they seem to be playing their cautious midfield passing game, this guy drops deep to help them move forward and will still be there to finish off. Only one person. If our mentally weak players could have the champion mindset Ibrahimovic has, he won't even be stressing himself too much like this. When you are a lion and you work with sheeps, this is the result.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 12:55pm On Mar 02, 2017
joeace2020:


I used to be one of those who disliked Ibrahimovic based purely on some of his wayward passes, lost possession or missed chances. But then i had to revisit virtually all the highlights of our matches this season to understand how wasteful the rest have been. Ibrahimovic does everything for this team. When they seem to be playing their cautious midfield passing game, this guy drops deep to help them move forward and will still be there to finish off. Only one person. If our mentally weak players could have the champion mindset Ibrahimovic has, he won't even be stressing himself too much like this. When you are a lion and you work with sheeps, this is the result.

I tire oh! Even the cavani they said used to be hindered by Ibra while at psg still scored double figures for each and every season they played together! Have his numbers even dramatically shot up now that Ibra is gone? No....just a slight improvement!

People are forgetting that even in the dressing room and amongst the fans Ibra is driving this mind of a champion mentality that has got everyone believing again! Listen to his statements or press conferences? It's like having cantona 2.0 sitting in front of the cameras! So they think his goals would get us into the champions league and the chap won't want to go and have one last shot at a competition he has _fucked up in for a while! He has said he must retire at the top with a trophy for united....the rest of the squad should help him achieve his retirement gift abeg...even the rashford and martial are loving his presence and advice more than others!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 1:33pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:


I tire oh! Even the cavani they said used to be hindered by Ibra while at psg still scored double figures for each and every season they played together! Have his numbers even dramatically shot up now that Ibra is gone? No....just a slight improvement!

People are forgetting that even in the dressing room and amongst the fans Ibra is driving this mind of a champion mentality that has got everyone believing again! Listen to his statements or press conferences? It's like having cantona 2.0 sitting in front of the cameras! So they think his goals would get us into the champions league and the chap won't want to go and have one last shot at a competition he has _fucked up in for a while! He has said he must retire at the top with a trophy for united....the rest of the squad should help him achieve his retirement gift abeg...even the rashford and martial are loving his presence and advice more than others!

I swear if na for those interviews alone, zlatan should stay for four more years. Someone who talks the big talk and walks it. Tired of all these weak players we have been buying over the years and masturbating over. They can't even boldly express defiance in the face of struggle like zlatan does and manage to live up to it. We need somebody that keeps the fans hoping again and dare i say Zlatan is not a mercenary or else at his age, he'd eclipse the wage in China that it would take 10 years for another person to beat it. But he came to England, at 35 and declared himself a god without kicking a ball. How many of today's players even have half that confidence in their ability and they want us to throw him away for another set of weak minded mercenaries who'll jump ship when china calls or we begin to struggle. Rubbish i dey vex

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:40pm On Mar 02, 2017
Make una calm down na!!!!


Let the season end first; make una leave Eric Ibrahimovic alone biko.

This yarning dust upandan is not what we need now!..


For now...Zlatan till 2017 grin grin

More goals and assists to his boot°°°

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:06pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:


I tire oh! Even the cavani they said used to be hindered by Ibra while at psg still scored double figures for each and every season they played together! Have his numbers even dramatically shot up now that Ibra is gone? No....just a slight improvement!

People are forgetting that even in the dressing room and amongst the fans Ibra is driving this mind of a champion mentality that has got everyone believing again! Listen to his statements or press conferences? It's like having cantona 2.0 sitting in front of the cameras! So they think his goals would get us into the champions league and the chap won't want to go and have one last shot at a competition he has _fucked up in for a while! He has said he must retire at the top with a trophy for united....the rest of the squad should help him achieve his retirement gift abeg...even the rashford and martial are loving his presence and advice more than others!

I am in support of keeping Zlatan but we have to have another world class option next season. Auba or Griezmmann or Kane etc.
Zlatan has done well this season but when the end will come for him it will be sudden so we should not assume that he will maintain this level next season. If he does let it be a bonus rather than a necessity.
As per Cavani his numbers have actually dramatically improved. His league goals per game average has doubled and in early March he has already scored 7 more goals than he ever scored in an entire Ligure 1 season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 3:21pm On Mar 02, 2017
afrodoc2:


I am in support of keeping Zlatan but we have to have another world class option next season. Auba or Griezmmann or Kane etc.
Zlatan has done well this season but when the end will come for him it will be sudden so we should not assume that he will maintain this level next season. If he does let it be a bonus rather than a necessity.
As per Cavani his numbers have actually dramatically improved. His league goals per game average has doubled and in early March he has already scored 7 more goals than he ever scored in an entire Ligure 1 season.



Haba! For sure there are going to be major additions to our strike force this summer....when rooney is most likely leaving? We won't be short up front for sure!

Griezmann is surely coming in, if not someone of a similar quality will.....jose never messes about in the transfer market and he has already said he has discussed with his targets "offline" and knows who will be joining us! Ibra must also be seen to be rewarded for a job well done sef as a stimulant to even those yet to join and those still yet to step up! It's even embarrassing that such an old man is our best player and our main goal threat! All our strikers need to slap themselves hard every morning before going to training!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 3:38pm On Mar 02, 2017
2013/14 season: 25....with Zlatan

2014/15 season: 31....with zlatan

2015/16 season: 25....with zlatan

2016/17 season: 36....on his own




These are cavanis stats for all his stay at psg, as you can see the numbers have not drastically shifted as you think! He has always surpassed the 20 goal mark anyway so the extra goals might be as a result of more starts and games as the sole striker instead of as a result of zlatan reducing his impact as some have claimed! He has always been wasteful and zlatan gave him quite a few assists too!


Cc: afrodoc2
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 4:01pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:

2013/14 season: 25....with Zlatan

2014/15 season: 31....with zlatan

2015/16 season: 25....with zlatan

2016/17 season: 36....on his own




These are cavanis stats for all his stay at psg, as you can see the numbers have not drastically shifted as you think! He has always surpassed the 20 goal mark anyway so the extra goals might be as a result of more starts and games as the sole striker instead of as a result of zlatan reducing his impact as some have claimed! He has always been wasteful and zlatan gave him quite a few assists too!


Cc: afrodoc2
cavani's strike rate improved as a result of the exit of zlatan from the team. It gave him the opportunity to play in his favoured cf role
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 4:15pm On Mar 02, 2017
afrodoc2:


I am in support of keeping Zlatan but we have to have another world class option next season. Auba or Griezmmann or Kane etc.
Zlatan has done well this season but when the end will come for him it will be sudden so we should not assume that he will maintain this level next season. If he does let it be a bonus rather than a necessity.
As per Cavani his numbers have actually dramatically improved. His league goals per game average has doubled and in early March he has already scored 7 more goals than he ever scored in an entire Ligure 1 season.
I see you mentioned two striker doc.
You think ibra will sit idly on the bench for anyone of these guys?
Am not even totally sure Jose can achieve this can man-management
That na why I say make we part ways and am still looking at that age too.
Ibra na temporary fix,we should try to find a more permanent solution this off season. (Maybe lukaku but that na just me grin)

Again this isnt an anti ibra talk,I have championed ibra many times for this thread.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 5:13pm On Mar 02, 2017
If una dey call additions na names like Griezzy, Auba Dybala and maybe Kane.

I no wan hear any Belloti or Icardi nonsense for here!! angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 5:37pm On Mar 02, 2017
elrony:
If una dey call additions na names like Griezzy, Auba Dybala and maybe Kane.

I no wan hear any Belloti or Icardi nonsense for here!! angry angry
as far as dis season is concerned belloti and icardi r miles better than dybala.

Instead of kane, why not give rashford d chance. If spurs no give Kane chance, we no go sabi am
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 5:49pm On Mar 02, 2017
lekkie073:
as far as dis season is concerned belloti and icardi r miles better than dybala.

Instead of kane, why not give rashford d chance. If spurs no give Kane chance, we no go sabi am


Abeg DELETE KANE from any list of prospective buys! New 5 year contract signed? Daniel "shylock" levy? Spurs likely to be in champions league? Never happening!


Fashi Harry!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 6:05pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:



Abeg DELETE KANE from any list of prospective buys! New 5 year contract signed? Daniel "shylock" levy? Spurs likely to be in champions league? Never happening!


Fashi Harry!
levy no go gree, but if kane want united move, him fit force levy hands, though me no even like the kane, be like local champ for my eye, i go lyk make greizy join but no be jose type of center forward, the only realistic target wey de market na lacazete, e no go cost reach 50mil.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 6:29pm On Mar 02, 2017
weedtaker:
levy no go gree, but if kane want united move, him fit force levy hands, though me no even like the kane, be like local champ for my eye, i go lyk make greizy join but no be jose type of center forward, the only realistic target wey de market na lacazete, e no go cost reach 50mil.


Lacezette wey arsenal dey price? If we drop 40m....lacazette go show....that guy does not do much to find or contribute to goals but anything inside penalty box na goal straight! I no mind am....lordfalcao don turn him agent for chelsea thread sef!


He is fast and only cares about scoring! He would be a fine addition to our slow team!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 6:37pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:



Lacezette wey arsenal dey price? If we drop 40m....lacazette go show.... that guy does not do much to find or contribute to goals but anything inside penalty box na goal straight! I no mind am....lordfalcao don turn him agent for chelsea thread sef!


He is fast and only cares about scoring! He would be a fine addition to our slow team!
@bolded we no need dat type of striker abeg, e no go work for jose system lailai.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:49pm On Mar 02, 2017
weedtaker:
@bolded we no need dat type of striker abeg, e no go work for jose system lailai.

What with the players surrounding him, he'll struggle to score goals.

We need wingers and midfielders who can score goals as well as create assists, although I agree Zlat shouldn't play 90 min every time.

Chelsea is topping the table because Pedro, Hazard and others didn't choose to sit on their hands. They score goals. If they had relied only on Costa to score for them they wouldn't make the top 4.

The solution isn't always to buy a striker. The solution is to get everybody scoring goals. And if a player that should be scoring goals isn't doing so, we can bring in someone who plays his position and scores goals.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 6:55pm On Mar 02, 2017
Leyqute:


What with the players surrounding him, he'll struggle to score goals.

We need wingers and midfielders who can score goals as well as create assists, although I agree Zlat shouldn't play 90 min every time.

Chelsea is topping the table because Pedro, Hazard and others didn't choose to sit on their hands. They score goals. If they had relied only on Costa to score for them they wouldn't make the top 4.

The solution isn't always to buy a striker. The solution is to get everybody scoring goals. And if a player that should be scoring goals isn't doing so, we can bring in someone who plays his position and scores goals.

true, na only zlatan the score for us, our wingers really need to up their game, next season no go funny, i sha trust jose to handle de situation.
Funlordmaniac:




But we did well with van nistelrooy na! They are quite similar!

Na dem pogba, martial and co supposed dey create chances not the strikers!
nistelrooy de play with partner. jose strikers the always be target men, and from the way you describe lacazete, him no one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 6:56pm On Mar 02, 2017
weedtaker:
@bolded we no need dat type of striker abeg, e no go work for jose system lailai.



But we did well with van nistelrooy na! They are quite similar!

Na dem pogba, martial and co supposed dey create chances not the strikers!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:51pm On Mar 02, 2017
lekkie073:
as far as dis season is concerned belloti and icardi r miles better than dybala.

Instead of kane, why not give rashford d chance. If spurs no give Kane chance, we no go sabi am

LMAOOOgrin grin grin ..

I like Dybala.

Buh as long as we no sign Belloti and Icardi I'm fine. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:52pm On Mar 02, 2017
Nobody dey price Romelu Benjamin " Elite " Lukaku for here?


grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:16pm On Mar 02, 2017
Leyqute:


Splendid. You've actually spoken well, and listed out good points.

Now answer this question- will we still be in the 6th position if other players stepped up during Zlat's drought and scored goals?

The problem is not Zlat not scoring goals, the problem is others are not- he's the only one scoring goals. If one of Martial, Pogba, Mata, Mhiki or Herrera scores once in every game how will things be?

Now remove the bad-belle clothing blocking your eyes and think like a Man Utd fan grin


Well, it would be funny to see ManUtd rely on a 35yr old in Champs league next season.. grin grin grin... GGMU though smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:23pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:

2013/14 season: 25....with Zlatan

2014/15 season: 31....with zlatan

2015/16 season: 25....with zlatan

2016/17 season: 36....on his own




These are cavanis stats for all his stay at psg, as you can see the numbers have not drastically shifted as you think! He has always surpassed the 20 goal mark anyway so the extra goals might be as a result of more starts and games as the sole striker instead of as a result of zlatan reducing his impact as some have claimed! He has always been wasteful and zlatan gave him quite a few assists too!


Cc: afrodoc2

Haba!.... See difference 36 and 25 shocked shocked.. And you're saying there's little improvement undecided, Season never end sef...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:24pm On Mar 02, 2017
elrony:
Nobody dey price Romelu Benjamin " Elite " Lukaku for here?


grin grin grin

Abeg no disturb us grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TapDance: 8:29pm On Mar 02, 2017
Zlatan should fvck off or accept a rotation or back up role in the club, how many clubs presently in the Champions league Quarter finals have players as slow as Zlatan??



RUBBISH
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:32pm On Mar 02, 2017
codedguy1:


Guy, we don't have to sell zlatan to get another striker na.

Just like you said if Ronaldo gets injured they have benzema, bale, James, and co. We can also have grizeman, rashford and any other striker, if zlatan is injured. My concern is that zlatans games MUST be limited, he should be an option for us.



I agree him not being first choice is the issue, but this is man u and he will learn to not be first choice. Na mourinho suppose reduce his playing time.

If mourinho get sense we will avoid the Rooney conundrum where Moyes and lvg felt he must play. We all saw where it got them.

Zlatan wan be first choice even when he is older than buhari?



Honestly, i dont see Zlatan playing second fiddle to anyone, if he couldn't settle as second fiddle to Messi then he's not gonn' settle to any other person
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 10:03pm On Mar 02, 2017
GloryIsaac:


Haba!.... See difference 36 and 25 shocked shocked.. And you're saying there's little improvement undecided, Season never end sef...



He scored 31 playing next to Ibra too! Check the seasons! And knowing cavani, don't be surprised if he is stuck on those 36 goals till September! Or don't you watch him in their champions league games? He is a talented waste pipe!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:13pm On Mar 02, 2017
Funlordmaniac:




He scored 31 playing next to Ibra too! Check the seasons! And knowing cavani, don't be surprised if he is stuck on those 36 goals till September! Or don't you watch him in their champions league games? He is a talented waste pipe!

31 was the highest he ever got to in 3 seasons playing alongside Zlatan.. and he reached such feat only once... Now despite his natural wastefulness he has been able to surpass that in his first season as the CF, doesn't that tell you something
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcdreeezy: 10:19pm On Mar 02, 2017
elrony:

LMAOOOgrin grin grin ..
I like Dybala.
Buh as long as we no sign Belloti and Icardi I'm fine. cheesy
Leave Dybala bro. He's coming to Barcelona.

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