@refiner.... Always read the scripture with understanding of the holy Spirit and I tell to understand the Bible better read different versions... The scripture you quoted was actually made to religious people who taught that by what they are doing they are guaranteed mercy..... We are all one in Christ.....

zionmade:

Ok big bangie. I still have nothing to explain to d devil

if by big bangie you mean me being an atheist, you are wrong. Am a religious guy who believes in God. But atimes one needs to questi0n s0methings, such as the authenticity of the b0oks one uses as reference. Fr0m the religious b0oks, am made to understand that the jews were God's favored people am0ngst his other creations. They are blessed, God loves them and banned them fr0m marrying the philistines or other races God sees as d0omed. God sent the jews to war with other tribes, chased them fr0m their land making it theirs. God refered to other tribes and gentiles n0t worthy of the blessings of the jews so they are made to pick crumbs like dogs [the syrophoenician w0man and jesus]. The gospel was only meant for the jews till paul came in to stop that theory. In the bible based on s0me things in it, evidences say the yahweh hated the arabs. C0me to the other side, the muslim said, virtually the same but this time, God favored the arabs than the jews, God sees the jews as bad people and asked the arabs to avoid them. Where am i getting at? Fr0m the crumbs gathered fr0m these b0oks, all i see presented of God are human natures. Racism, imperialism, war m0ngering etc which c0ntradicts fr0m the preachings that God is good, of good and all things good but then the scriptures divert. They d0n't add up unless the b0oks are n0t what they say they are. They are written by people inspired by God yet the b0oks have been revised thousand times with the revelati0n about to be cut fr0m the others. Why are they revised in the 1st place if God inspired the authors? Unless God n0w magically has the power of making mistakes or errors. I believe there is God but n0t what men paint him as.

refiner:


U can't be seriously serious!

I'm serious.

Are you Igbo?

oruma19:
Another mumu sighted. The person u quoted as a superb intellect that can't be compared to ur dogmatic, stereotyped, and conjured brain. U are very shallow, u can't think for ursef

Shut up lousy morôn.
Ignorant retârd like you can't comprehend my post.

FTBOY:
somebody gave the best answer to the op's question and you stupidly canceled his post without reading it because you're either a hateful muslim or a confused atheist.

You're so stupîd if you think he gave the best answer.
Senseless Christian like many of you always try to console yourself with stupîd turnover interpretation to something that is clear and emphatically stressed in your (Story_Tale) Bible.
Grow up and use your brain.

my good friend,GOD is not partial.we cant question HIM.HE knows all that will happen and He made them happen.Dont thinks deep about things of GOD,u will get urself confused.

Pidgin2:


Don't forget that science was responsible for creating that plane. The technology used in making it was highly science based. How many Eagles do you ever see crash landing? Blame science for plane crashes, not GOD.

You just say things that is convenient to you and doesn't want to accept reality. Another time you will say God is the author of science, Every good thing and perfect thing came from the lord blah blah. Ok let's accept science killed him in plane crash. Alright, do you remembered the tsunami/earthquake that happened in Japan killing thousands. Do you know volcanic eruption kill people? And you completely ignore my question about babies that die. Is that the fault of science too?

Mecoy:


God is not partial. He only loves certain people more than the other, and the amount of love God shows us is a function of the love we give to him. It depends on how we see God and how we relate to his matters.

What type of love is a kidnapper and ritualist showing to God that a truthful and honest man not showing to God. Explain more.

Mujtahida:

Once you begin to read the Bible from this standpoint you will understand that it's the Jews who created that God. He doesn't exist!

Hhhmmm, its just too complicated,jews started christainity, but europeans brought it to africa, and africans(especially nigerians) carry am for head like antenna.

Numbers 14:18 King James Bible
The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

Genetics also plays an important role here. A person could have inherited a wrong genotype from generation past. That could have been what happened in the case of Esau and Jacob.

However, Esau could have still done something about it, even though it would be harder for him. But it was easier for Jacob because he inherited a better genotype.

Idrismusty97:
You just say things that is convenient to you and doesn't want to accept reality. Another time you will say God is the author of science, Every good thing and perfect thing came from the lord blah blah. Ok let's accept science killed him in plane crash. Alright, do you remembered the tsunami/earthquake that happened in Japan killing thousands. Do you know volcanic eruption kill people? And you completely ignore my question about babies that die. Is that the fault of science too?

I remember the nuclear weapons developed by scientists that wiped off almost an entire country filled with human beings, I also remember countless deadly bombs developed as a result of science that has killed babies and nursing mothers

How did God cause volcanic eruptions and tsunamis, did the big bang theory no longer cause the creation of the earth?

zionmade:
Brother it is called Grace and divine destiny.
There are many ways to activate dat grace.
Peter and Judas: Judas was not destined to betray Jesus but someone needed to do the betrayal and Judas who had been stealing from d treasury made himself available for devil to use him.
Peter had activated grace by following Jesus with all his heart and commitment.
SAUL AND DAVID
Saul was a proud man, he was also disobedient unlike David who was in continual obedience and giving of praises to God.
God is not a democrat and he does not blow whistle on a level ground, he operates on grace and ur grace might not be on d same level as mine.
I responded to u hoping u re a Christian pls ignore my response if u re a big bang product

Ur points contradict one another.
If u blv in divine grace and destiny as u claimed, wht then did u say Judas wasnt destined to betray Jesus. Why cant d destined person carry out d assignment. Read ur Bible where Jesus told Peter that he will deny him 3 times, and that Judas will betray him by taking d morsel from Him. Judas fulfilled a mission for Christ, d only difference was that it has been written that woe unto him that carried out that mission, and it was too late for him to seek forgiveness unlike Peter that seek genuine forgiveness almost immediately. No record of Judas stealing from d treasury in d Bible.

David was also a disobedient servant and more immoralities were recorded against him than Saul. Saul wasnt a proud man. He and David had an humble beginning, only dt Kings generally had to live above par.
The major thing is that just as d Bible says, some people are ordained for grace by God, only that is needed is for u to make urself available and position urslf where u will abide still. Alternatively, u pray.urself into d grace. Examples are Jabez and Hannah.

Minemrys:

if by big bangie you mean me being an atheist, you are wrong. Am a religious guy who believes in God. But atimes one needs to questi0n s0methings, such as the authenticity of the b0oks one uses as reference. Fr0m the religious b0oks, am made to understand that the jews were God's favored people am0ngst his other creations. They are blessed, God loves them and banned them fr0m marrying the philistines or other races God sees as d0omed. God sent the jews to war with other tribes, chased them fr0m their land making it theirs. God refered to other tribes and gentiles n0t worthy of the blessings of the jews so they are made to pick crumbs like dogs [the syrophoenician w0man and jesus]. The gospel was only meant for the jews till paul came in to stop that theory. In the bible based on s0me things in it, evidences say the yahweh hated the arabs. C0me to the other side, the muslim said, virtually the same but this time, God favored the arabs than the jews, God sees the jews as bad people and asked the arabs to avoid them. Where am i getting at? Fr0m the crumbs gathered fr0m these b0oks, all i see presented of God are human natures. Racism, imperialism, war m0ngering etc which c0ntradicts fr0m the preachings that God is good, of good and all things good but then the scriptures divert. They d0n't add up unless the b0oks are n0t what they say they are. They are written by people inspired by God yet the b0oks have been revised thousand times with the revelati0n about to be cut fr0m the others. Why are they revised in the 1st place if God inspired the authors? Unless God n0w magically has the power of making mistakes or errors. I believe there is God but n0t what men paint him as.

D only reason i will respond is because u used G and not g.
After d flood Noah and his sons obeyed God. But as time went on, the world turned into wickedness and God found Abraham (and not Israel).
Israel and Edom plus Moab were offsprings of Abraham though Moab came from lot. God instructed Israel not to touch Edom and Moab. But Israel had to destroy Moab because they struck Israel at d back.

All other cities destroyed were Idol worshipping cities and study judges very well Israel got the same punishment wen they join idol worshipping. D only difference between Israel and Others was dat Israel always come bak to God and God will save dem.
Paul didnt put an end to d gospel being preached to only Jews, Jesus already gave dat command before his ascension. Paul was only a tool in d hands of God.

Pidgin2:


I remember the nuclear weapons developed by scientists that wiped off almost an entire country filled with human beings

TELL ME WHEN AN ATOMIC BOMB WIPED OFF ALMOST AN ENTIRE COUNTRY, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THIS "COUNTRY" THAT WAS ALMOST WIPED OFF

Pidgin2:


I remember the nuclear weapons developed by scientists that wiped off almost an entire country filled with human beings, I also remember countless deadly bombs developed as a result of science that has killed babies and nursing mothers

How did God cause volcanic eruptions and tsunamis, did the big bang theory no longer cause the creation of the earth?

But you believe God create the earth don't you? If you think it is the bigbang theory like most atheists then they will be no one to hold accountable. But scratch all that, an all-seeing, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient, Omniblahblah letting all these happen? Seems like he really enjoy it.

oruma19:
majority of religious people did not choose their religion, Lene correct that impression first. Secondly, u said u scream when u read some tinz in the Pentateuch, shouldn't that be the reason u should ask questions? God gave us head so we can can use it..leave all this plenty tok of u can't question God. Even God said," come let us reason togeda" what do u tink God is saying? Abraham questioned God, Job did, many other people including David. Y won't we ask God question when we don't understand?

Christianity is not by birth, it is by choice. U can be born by a pastor but until u open ur mouth and confess Jesus u are not a Christian.
Abraham didn't question God's actions or purpose he only debated with God in a submissive way for God to consider.
There is a difference between pls Bob dnt do this it will cause pains to others and Bob why did u do this? It is wickedness.
Both can be used in human to human relationships but d second instance is an insult to God

Better still God pls reveal unto me d reason for ur actions that i may know u more

BigBrother9ja:

You're so stupîd if you think he gave the best answer.
Senseless Christian like many of you always try to console yourself with stupîd turnover interpretation to something that is clear and emphatically stressed in your (Story_Tale) Bible.
Grow up and use your brain.

you know he gave the best answer hence you're pained. we're christians and we worship a loving God who doesn't teach us to rape minors and cut throats.

wrap a rag over your and bomb a mosque in maiduguri...ode!

hopefulLandlord:


TELL ME WHEN AN ATOMIC BOMB WIPED OFF ALMOST AN ENTIRE COUNTRY, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THIS "COUNTRY" THAT WAS ALMOST WIPED OFF

When America used it against Japan

TheVictorious:


You are missing the most important thing which is to believe and you are celebrating works.

Grace isn't merited bro. That's why its grace. But Jesus has died and salvation has been perfected for[b] all[/b] who believe; and this is the very nature of God (all through - "He didn't change"!) that was revealed in Christ. So God is not partial.

Grace is not merited is a fallacy itself. because grace is already defined as an unmerited favor.
God chooses to favor whom he will but bro dat choice most times is not spontaneous it is determined or activated or influenced by something.
Do u think God just said David is a man after my own heart without David pleasing God? Even though David's righteous acts wont be enof to get dat commendation, that is where grace comes into play.

Idrismusty97:
But you believe God create the earth don't you? If you think it is the bigbang theory like most atheists then they will be no one to hold accountable. But scratch all that, an all-seeing, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient, Omniblahblah letting all these happen? Seems like he really enjoy it.

Hahaha the joke is on you. If you don't believe in God why should I argue with you based on my own beliefs in this instance

FTBOY:

you know he gave the best answer hence you're pained. we're christians and we worship a loving God who doesn't teach us to rape minors and cut throats.

wrap a rag over your and bomb a mosque in maiduguri...ode!

Ode

Prove that you have brain and review the picture below.. .

refiner:


First of all...i never said God exist not...i believe in his existence!

With the recent happenings and cases of old,something is quit similar...God can favour someone and lift him above his peers...it has nothing to do with ur personal belief sometimes...

Now what if i say..God is a jealous God...u will believe me quickly without any objections..why? Because he already said it in d bible...not because it was obvious...so if he had said he was a partial God...u would have no objections too cause he had said it...

You are angry with God..

Cool down.

You won't get anywhere with this mindset of yours.

Trust me.

The way u feel, have felt this way before..

Try take it easy.

Peace.

hotspec:
Was there any biblical record dt Judas stole from d treasury? Check again

No Judas was called a thief in John 12:6 because he stole nothing. Can u see how ur brain works?

BigBrother9ja:

Shut up lousy morôn.
Ignorant retârd like you can't comprehend my post.

I think I shouldn't give u d dignity of an answer... Odoyor

hotspec:

Ur points contradict one another.
If u blv in divine grace and destiny as u claimed, wht then did u say Judas wasnt destined to betray Jesus. Why cant d destined person carry out d assignment. Read ur Bible where Jesus told Peter that he will deny him 3 times, and that Judas will betray him by taking d morsel from Him. Judas fulfilled a mission for Christ, d only difference was that it has been written that woe unto him that carried out that mission, and it was too late for him to seek forgiveness unlike Peter that seek genuine forgiveness almost immediately. No record of Judas stealing from d treasury in d Bible.

David was also a disobedient servant and more immoralities were recorded against him than Saul. Saul wasnt a proud man. He and David had an humble beginning, only dt Kings generally had to live above par.
The major thing is that just as d Bible says, some people are ordained for grace by God, only that is needed is for u to make urself available and position urslf where u will abide still. Alternatively, u pray.urself into d grace. Examples are Jabez and Hannah.

Judas was not destined to betray Jesus. By stealing from d treasury he opened himself to d devil. Before Jesus ever prophesied anything about Judas john 12:6 had already taken place. Judas was possessed for him not to be afraid to steal from d purse of Christ himself who reads d minds of people.
Someone has to do all d dirty sinful jobs on earth but until u open urself to d devil, he cant use u

2dugged:
now I know why I follow you on this forum, the only mature and practical mention I got, at that instant the only thing that ran through my mind was what first aid I could give to salvage the situation, infact I almost went for Google, it happened so fast (within 10 mins) I was just confused,to think she was due for delivery this month, thanks for the words, woke up with the feeling that I could have done more

The feeling will pass...If you look deep down, you will realize that you did the best you could given the elements that were before you.
Just take it easy on yourself ok....and I hope you feel better now?
Good day

ReubenE:

The feeling will pass...If you look deep down, you will realize that you did the best you could given the elements that were before you.
Just take it easy on yourself ok....and I hope you feel better now?
Good day

thanks, I feel better now

zionmade:

God is all knowing because if u have two options in life A and B he knows where exactly A will lead u to and where exactly B will lead u. But he allows u make those choices.
The first Jesus prophesied about Judas betrayal it was already written dat he knew Judas had been stealing from him
So he knew d choice Judas made and where it would lead him to

then if he had (jesus) had known right from time why did he let judas be one of his deciple

Pidgin2:


When America used it against Japan

so? it was only 2 cities that was attacked, Nagasaki and Hiroshima; HOW IS ATTACKING TWO CITIES IN ANYWAY CLOSE TO "ALMOST WIPING OUT AN ENTIRE COUNTRY"? Chai!! the exaggeration is too strong on this one

the entire population of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was approximately 350,000 before the bomb and 146,000 were killed with the bomb

Japan had a population of over 73,000,0000 at that time

how does killing 146,000 equal to almost wiping out a country of over 73,000,0000 people?

killing 0.2% of the population is same as "almost wiping them out?"

Christians and lies make me

zionmade:

God is all knowing because if u have two options in life A and B he knows where exactly A will lead u to and where exactly B will lead u. But he allows u make those choices.
The first Jesus prophesied about Judas betrayal it was already written dat he knew Judas had been stealing from him
So he knew d choice Judas made and where it would lead him to

so god does not know what I'll eat for dinner? how is he omniscient then?

Pidgin2:


Hahaha the joke is on you. If you don't believe in God why should I argue with you based on my own beliefs in this instance

I don't know, Maybe because you go around trying to indoctrinate others to your believe and threatened them with consuming fire if they don't? Maybe because you disturbed my sleep with your big àss churches which are doing nothing but blowing noises and are even tax exempt despite being an established business? Maybe because you are rubbing your believes on the face of everyone? Or maybe because you are telling everyone meningitis and disease in general is God's punishment on sinners? Or just maybe because i happen to find myself in a country rule by religious people, Making rules favoring their religion, spending our resources on pilgrimage and other frivolous religious activities.

Honestly i would like to stay quiet and mind my business, who doesn't actually? I just happen to find myself in a world rule by religion.

BigBrother9ja:

Your brain is not mature enough to understand all these things...

then let him understand