₦airaland Forum

pazienza:
Because Asaba couldn't have preferred Nigeria to Biafra, they are Igbo, remember?
It's only rational to preserve life first when faced between life and a hard choice, Nigerian soldiers had guns pointed at their towns, surely, as a Yoruba muslim, you must understand that.

dyydxx:
your myopic deluded opinion exhuming greed and crass ignorance, so you dont know that secession is an act of war.

The agitation will definitely go on in perpetuity.

kingzizzy:
Secession is an act of war? Really? Its because you are a backward African that you believe that. Even Britain that created Nigeria allowed one of its areas, Scotland, the right of referendum to decide if the want to go or stay.


It is you that the made a 'Nigerian' that is now saying 'secession is an act of war'

OAUTemitayo:
Did they also listened to the reason given by the Serbian government against Kosovo secession?
Hell no.
America and Europe has no right to determine how Ethnic Russians live their life.
Crimea is gone forever​,
If Ukraine try any stupid thing in Crimea or Sevastopol, Russia will bang their fascist az.z.

kingzizzy:
The above you posted was when Ojukwu was still Military Governor of the Eastern Region and still under Nigeria. What I meant about Ojukwu controlling the Oil was after he declared Biafra



What you posted about Nigerias Naval strenght and their ability to enforce a blockade is laughable. Another Lagos/Ibadan media concoction. The Nigerian Navy was just roughly 10 years old when the war began in 1967. Im sure they had some gun boats, rafts maybe even some small vessels. But they had no Warships to enforce a Naval blockade, not even close. To enforce a Naval blockade, one woould need Warship almost as large as the oceanliners that deliver and take goods. Gun boats cant do that.

British Warships blockaded Biafra, Russian Airplanes flown by Epyptian pilots gave Nigeria air superiority.

International intervention won the war for Nigeria. Nigeria has never won any war where they were not militarily supported by at least 2 nations. Had the international community stayed clear of the Nigerian/Biafran affair, their wiuld be no country called Nigeria today

kingzizzy:
There is no delusion on the part of Biafrans, afterall, self determination is the universal right of all people.

The only delusion here is with Nigerians who think that it is the job of Lugard to come from Europe to give them their country.

Running an outdated, unworkable, retrogressive, divided British colonial contraption called 'one Nigeria' and wondering why everyone does not see the beauty of its faliure.

I laugh in Igbo

dyydxx:
Have you read the Scotland act? do you know what lead to devolution of powers? do you even know the type of political system employed in the UK? stop exhibiting crass ignorance! haba...you just keep spewing garbage on an asinine level.

jpphilips:
The bad news is that every Biafran arguement you have ever put up falls below logic, no sane igbo man will jump on your band wagon when reality sets in (Note: I don't count keke drivers, okada, petty traders as sound igbo men), I can tell you boldly that you have no clue how sovereignty is gotten, you are yet to take the first step in the process yet making the loudest noise, go get the damn B!afra if you know where it is sold let's have peace, remember that if you succeed, we embrace it, if you fail, shame on you!!

jpphilips:
Stop comparing apples with Oranges, Crimea is Crimea while Kosovo is what it is, major world powers change foreign policies as it suits their interest, even a simple regime change can change the foreign policy of a world power on an ongoing conflict.
Obama wanted a regime change in Syria, Donald trump wants unfettered access in Syria to bomb the living day light out of Isis, same country different policies, same targets.

kingzizzy:
And remind us why you are drinking panadol over other peoples headache?

kingzizzy:
I dont need to know these things, they are secondary. What is important is that Britain respected Scotlands right to self determination

dyydxx:
You need too, Scotland was already a country in its own right before joining England in what was known the act of the Union in 1707.

kingzizzy:
That only exposes Nigeria as a fraud since no one ever agreed to be part of it.

The UAE said in a statement it was cutting off all ties with Qatar. It also ordered Qatari citizens to leave the country within 14 days and banned its citizens from travelling to Qatar.
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2017/06/saudi-arabia-uae-egypt-bahrain-cut-ties-qatar-170605031700062.html

Kondomatic:
This is funny. A people said that they do not want to be one with you again and you're worried about what will happen to them when they leave? Is this love or possessiveness? Sounds like what a possessive and abusive husband will do.

If you love them that much then why give them reason to leave?

My grandmother used to say that whoever is chasing something is also running past something. Igbos will lose so many things when they get Biafra, that's sure but they have been losing since I was born. Shops being burnt for the world's stupidest reason, losing lives etc so it's not new to them.

Once Biafra is declared, North will become a hot zone for all Igbos, it has always been but it will be multiplied by 100 this time. All Igbos in the North are heading East, this too is not new because they all headed East in 2015 during presidential election.

Even if the Yorubas will accommodate Igbos it will be if they get Odua too, I don't see it happening in one Nigeria(Yoruba and Hausa) but I believe what they got(their own country) is worth the loss.

omenkaLives:
I don't just understand why they keep talking about Brexit! What similarities are there between EU and Nigeria?

Nigeria is a country, EU is a union of countries!

What is wrong with these people for Christ's sake?

pazienza:
You are already roaming.

kingzizzy:
Secession is an act of war? Really? Its because you are a backward African that you believe that. Even Britain that created Nigeria allowed one of its areas, Scotland, the right of referendum to decide if the want to go or stay.

It is you that the made a 'Nigerian' that is now saying 'secession is an act of war'

menxer:
It won't get to that archaic method, the option to neutralize would be made available to those that doesn't want to go back or have dual citizenship.

Though laudate has a point, of Biafrans wanting to eat their cake and still have, those that would be affected are mostly those in sensitive positions in federal employ, but then nobody can force those that want to stay in and be Nigerian to go.

Agumbankembu:
Your Nigeria is going down the drain, btw baba have borrowed 5trn in 2 years, how do you plan to pay up?

Or is it to stay on NL and rant against Biafra all your life?

jpphilips:
Because you don't believe doesn't mean it will not happen, all you need do is to sit back and relax then watch as events unfold, are you aware that when Biafra was declared a republic in 1967, Ojukwu seized UNN and renamed it University of Biafra? same with other FG assets? he wrote to Shell asking for all the Nigerian stakes in the JV, funny enough Shell paid once then refused,You guys have played that stunt before,surprising why you are scared of Nigeria returning the favour? you guys just don't have a clue what lies ahead, if Nigeria did not win that war, all the Nigerian assets in SE and SS are gone, we saw it in Sudan (pipeline), Crimea (Sea ports) and Kashmir (arable land), B!afra is a piece of cake.

At that point, it is no longer up to you to decide the policy direction of the Nigerian state, you wont even know when it will be decided, you will only witness the execution.


It is not just the law of Nigeria, it is a subset of an existing international law called "citizenship by birth" however, those laws are very dynamic once domesticated. your citizenship right is clearly bifurcated from property ownership, those who will retain their properties are likely igbos who still retain their Nigerian passport, any Igbo man with a biafran passport may forfeit his properties, that's a c0ck sure possibility. look at Taiwan and China for example, despite winning china in the 1949 war, Taiwan still regulate the amount of properties owned by the Chinese in Mainland Taiwan till date. Your citizenship by birth will be subject to legal interpretation whether there was a Biafra before you were born. If you choose Biafra over Nigeria, then you must trade that citizenship right, that's the least Nigeria will do, trust me on that, I ve seen it happen in so many countries.

Do you know that after Ukraine broke away from Russia, they seized some military wares from Russia? the chernobyl nuclear plant for example was seized from Russia.

What international damage did "Ghana must go do" do? you care to explain?

jpphilips:
You are a joke, did ojukwu make a single oil and gas investment or he seized Nigerian oil assets and promised to concession it to France in exchange for a few camos and bullets? You don't get it do you? How can Ojukwu export oil that belongs to Nigeria when Nigeria was standing right across with a loaded gun? The oil companies vacated the oil fields and shut down everything, it was ojukwu's engineers that managed to restart the process yet he couldn't get enough to fuel locomotives let alone make exports, Does ojukwu have a single oil export contract with any country at the time? or you don't care to even understand how oil is sold before throwing around your emptiness?
In your deluded mind, You think oil is a commodity you barge in the high sea waiting for buyers to pick them up at the right price, you are the least IQ I have met on Nairaland, jeez!! Why do you guys make puerile assumptions?

You think Nigeria did not have active Naval personnel in 1967? Do I blame you? obviously your cheap education did not tell you about the HMNS QUORRA, JEA Wey was already a chief of Army staff by 1964, three years prior to the war.
Continue undermining Nigeria at your own risk, ojukwu did it too, whatever that Ojukwu saw and ran away await you in this new campaign bring it on!!

CIVIL WAR CONTRIBUTION

The NN performed various operations for the country, especially, after the abortive Aburi Talks of January 1967. It continuously policed Nigerian territorial waters to enforce the Federal Military Government’s order banning shipping in the Eastern part of the country. This action by the NN effectively blocked the Atlantic seabed and made it impossible for large-scale importation of much-needed arms and ammunition by the secessionists.

It is also noteworthy to mention the various amphibious landings, such as the Bonny landing of July 1967, which was hailed as the first of its kind by any third world country. The Bonny landing was followed by the Delta Ports amphibious operations which took place about mid September 1967 to recapture the ports of Warri, Koko and Sapele from the “Biafrans”.

Another major operation was mounted to liberate Calabar by November 1967 followed by the amphibious landing of the 3rd Marine Commandos at a beach-head in Oron to capture the mainland of Cross River State.

Besides these joint amphibious operations, naval ships especially NNS NIGERIA (now OBUMA) provided much needed logistics support by shipping arms and ammunition, providing casualty evacuation and carrying troops for reinforcement.

For instance, when the situation at Bonny during the landing became very critical, it was the timely arrival of NNS NIGERIA with troops’ reinforcement on 05 January 1967 that saved an ugly situation for the Federal Government. In his commendation message to Capt Soroh, the then Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon, wrote:

‘…You have got all the right to feel proud, happy and contented with the result of the recent combined operations at Bonny which was your responsibility to see come off successfully. The Army Commander has sent me a signal saying how nobly well the Navy did in conveying landing and support fire role which the Navy gave to the Army at the operations in Bonny’.
http://www.navy.mil.ng/History#.WTXoQJLyvIU ;
http://esigieozoya.tripod.com/history.htm

menxer:
You are reasoning from the point of hate, don't forget by then international diplomacy would play its role as Nigeria would be dealing with Biafra as a sovereign nation and all the diplomatic abracadabra would play out.

kingzizzy:
If you take Britain that just left the EU, over 3 million EU citizens in the UK. Will Britain deport them? No, not really.

In the event of Biafra seceding from Nigeria, both sides will have to discuss the sharing of assets, liabilities and debts. This means that there will be a discussion on 'Biafra/Nigeria' reltionship and the status of its citizens. A 'transition period' will have to be agreed on to allow the agreemwnts take effect


It is not likely that Nigeria will start deporting all Igbos straightaway as this could illegal under international law. Another reason why Nigeria wont do this is because it will damage Nigeria and the Nigerian economy irreparably before the international community. No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria ever again when hear that Nigeria deported millions of people it once called brothers.

Such mass deportations only destroys the credibility of a country

Pavarottii:
U guys just keep creating senseless posts. Allow dem go. If u don't need dem. U think they won't go with their business?. Is u guys that Wil run there to go buy goods.

Demainman1:
Senseless post I tell you. I personally will never near Nigeria again once Biafra comes.

laudate:
I wish I could dash you 100 likes for this post. Biko, nwoke m collect four criminally chilled bottles of the best set of drinks from Mama Onoja's shop at the next junction. Use it to unwind with your friends. May God increase the wisdom He has deposited in your life....

chngebeginwthme:
LOL that's none of your problem just relocate to your region..

Agumbankembu:
Good, at least you know, your generation and that of your kids will have to pay back, good think they don't use any of the money to build anything in Biafraland.