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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Everywhere OFFER!is the market correcting! |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Intendy: 1:18pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
ihedioramma:for the present bull run it is bad |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by rahjan: 1:24pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Intendy:Thank you very much |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ExLaidback: 1:32pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stcool(m): 1:33pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Intendy:It would have been a perfect opportunity for the government to take over and list the company on the NSE, but greedy banks would not let it go forward. Watch how they would mess up the company and start diverting contracts and fill in positions for their selfish benefits. Where is NCC when you need them the most? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Intendy: 1:42pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
stcool:The bank have no expertise to run the telecom company like you've rightly said. but let's watch. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Princkez: 2:01pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
some one is busy loading Transcorp... |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by makashava(m): 2:04pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
sellydion:this is a postive news pronouncement to cause uptrend in the economy. Fundamentals will determine what next. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stokfrick: 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
this bear is good for business ![]() it should be more serious than this!! ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by zendi: 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2017*. Modified: 8:36pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
stcool:List a loss spinning company? Will NCC give the banks their money? Public money is not for flushing down into corporate cesspits. They should quickly sell the network to Mike amd his glo. Or if Access Bank chooses to 'ruin' it themselves, we'll still have glo and mtn to make our calls. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ExLaidback: 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2017*. Modified: 3:00pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
ExLaidback:This is a big win for the lenders in this case and so reasonably good for their mid to long term stock price. I'm speaking as an outsider. This is simply because, Etisalat didn't run into a blind spot because of bad profitability or operations per se. It found itself in this bind primarily because it was unlucky to have taken a dollar denominated loan shortly before the dollar was devalued. Right? So the company by and large is profitable - especially now that they no longer have to pay interest on the loan since it has been converted to equity. So in the interim the lenders have a source of cash flow while they scout around for new buyers (note that they are not likely to hold onto Etisalat since they don't necessarily have the expertise to manage it). They're also likely to sell it at a profit. (since as i said above, I believe that Etisalat is still a profitable company). The point I'm making in essence is this would have been an entirely different story IF Etisalat's indebtedness was due only to poor management and not unfortunate circumstances. So the major losers in this deal are the previous owners who've lost hold of the company. However my take as outlined above only holds if the new owners allow the current management to manage the business without undue interference and so on, unfortunately this is Naija...So I might be wrong Update: Apparently Etisalat has been declaring losses over the last few years. Shocking. Bad management? |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Bianco1: 2:14pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
stcool:Yes really annoying...sorry to say but this makes it sometimes frustrating to invest in companies with our people as CEO's as instead of making money for shareholders they make people lose their hard earned money and really don't care about it! Check Japaul, RT Briscoe, UTC, etc promising companies but been milked dry. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stcool(m): 2:19pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/202746-panamapapers-secret-assets-of-etisalat-chairman-hakeem-belo-osagie-uncovered-in-tax-haven.html Mr. Belo-Osagie’s father, Professor Sunmonu Belo-Osagie, was the gynecologist to the family of former Nigerian military president, Ibrahim Babangida. His family’s connections with the military in the 1980s was a springboard for his appointments as a Special Assistant to the Presidential Adviser on Petroleum and Energy and later as Special Assistant to the Minister of Petroleum and Energy, positions he admitted in interviews opened for him his first road to fortune. In 1998, he acquired a controlling stake in UBA and became the bank’s Chairman. But the businessman, who is one of the sponsors of a new $120 million shopping mall currently being developed in Jabi Lake Abuja, was in 2004 forced out of UBA by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) following a complaint by US authorities. In 2002, UBA, under Mr. Belo-Osagie, became the focus of a CBN probe over money laundering and foreign exchange abuses. This Bello seems to be a bad business Man, but going by news available we need to find out what Etisalat did with the loan. Nigerian Mangers are very funny set of people. Am I shocked hearing Adenuga is interested in Etisalat... You can point to the single denominator. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 2:25pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Livestock - 90 kobo support held for days - SP above 50dma - weekly RSI breaking to 3 yr high - growing bids - daily looks like ascending triangle - needs to test recent high and brk with volume dis: not a fan of the liquidity behaviour |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 2:27pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Nbrew - we remain bullish - posted the inv H&S prev wt d brk above 150 entry ! - SP broke 52 week highs - more to come Note: this stock is very slow and defensive. Good for buy and hold type of investors for ''now'' |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 2:28pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
ExLaidback:Can banks run the Telecoms business well ? NO. Access bank, might looking for a strategic investor to buy Etisalat . Adenuga ? Hell no Dangote probably. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 2:30pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
FO - still long term bearish - watch for support ard 45'ish region - short term players be patient #wait |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 2:34pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Zenith - support ard N20 -N22 - lets see how fri closes Access - break below N10 - long over PB ! (same with penny banks and transcorp et al ) |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 2:34pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Zenith - support ard N20 -N22 - lets see how fri closes Access - break below N10 - long over due PB ! (same with penny banks and transcorp et al ) |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Manonamission: 2:46pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
ExLaidback:Only the parent company (Etisalat) converted to equity. Other investors are not forthcoming. Mubadala wants out. Nigerian investors group probably don't have money for bailout. Banks are not interested in the equity option, hence the reason for the take over. They want their money back. |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by UkwuAmu: 2:54pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Hello All I have been going back and forth with NSE and SEC to get clarity on this Mobil/Nipco take over . I had issues in the fact that investors were misinformed and didn't make sense how a cut off date is determined before the offer period is set . I have written to SEC and they are going to commence investigation on the matter . It wasn't until i wrote that it dawned on the NSE that the information should be public notice and they only put up the information yesterday on the website . I also thought as a matter of necessity, the acceptance forms for those who qualified should have been on GTL registrars website . Apparently this whole scheme is to create some overnight millionaires at the expense of the undiscerning investor I would advise all those who qualify to make sure they get their acceptance forms from GTL . Its just 9 days away . I am aware some people have got theirs . Do not be left out. The regulation of our market leaves much to be desired and its a shame that we reward failures with second term A lot of malpractices have been taking place in that market for the benefit of certain people . We have old and misinformed people who represent shareholders whose main duty is to ask for bonus shares and jolly rice instead of asking serious questions. I REPEAT THE ACCEPTANCE FORM IS BEING SENT TO SELECTED INVESTORS . Be informed |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ExLaidback: 2:58pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Manonamission:After writing my opinion above, I contacted someone to help confirm their profitability and shockingly they've declared a loss for the last three years 2015, 2014, 2013 consecutively. Increasing losses. This is quite shocking because the same person confirmed that other telecoms providers have been profitable over the same period (which is why I assumed that they were also profitable) Besides they are a connectivity service provider to where I work and their services have been pretty reliable compared to their contemporaries hence my assumption... So your statement about Mubadala wanting out must be right. Hmmmm...shocking... |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ExLaidback: 3:02pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI:Yeah I already stated that they'd be more interested in selling since they don't have the sector expertise to manage the coy |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 3:12pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Manonamission:- The head is finally off the body. I cant shout. - This Etisalat will make Access shareholders smile in the long run. -Loans are not designed to make borrowers rich , ESPECIALLY by Access bank. A loan from Access is like a guaranteed Cardiac Arrest certificate. Those who borrowed from access in the past are feeling me. Wigwe no dey hear stories... ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 3:17pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by holm: 3:29pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
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| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 3:35pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
ExLaidback:From experience with CDMA coys, Banks don't have that expertise. But nobody can tell me ETISALAT or Telecoms companies don't make profits, most of their incomes are usually diverted . Ernest Ndukwe tried enforcing corporate governance when he was the NCC EVC. The same man is a director in Access Bank. Ironic http://www.accessbankplc.com/pages/about-us/board/Dr-Ernest-Ndukwe,-OFR.aspx |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 3:42pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI:Fly don follow food enter Oven... ![]() |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by dipoolowoo: 3:43pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
Nigerian Stocks Sustain 5-Day Rally, Post N83b Gain www.businesspost.ng/2017/06/20/nigerian-stocks-sustain-5-day-rally-post-n83b-gain/ |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ExLaidback: 3:50pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
OBAGADAFFI:Well I can't say why but I can tell you for SURE that Etisalat posted losses for the last 3 or 4 consecutive years. It's privately owned so these figures are not in the public domain. The troubling thing however is that the losses were increasing considerably y-o-y. If the losses were coming down, it would have made a lil more sense to me cos there's a period required to break even after a business starts...Anyway that's it |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 3:53pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
| Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Bianco1: 3:55pm On Jun 20, 2017 |
ExLaidback:Who was the CEO and who are the major investors? Find the answers and you will know why there were loses! #SAD |
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