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TLuzzie:
Hahahaha. I think it is the [color=darkgreen]Tami Tami No Mi[/color].

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Do you follow ONE PIECE? Are you a fan?

lol Sure, i love one piece.


That's the same question i was asking the guy but in a coded way.

whitebeard:
can't remember.

Arrrgghh.... This answer isn't sufficient for me to discern if you're a one piece fan.
So lemme ask directly, are you?

TLuzzie:
Hahahaha. I think it is the [color=darkgreen]Tami Tami No Mi[/color].

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Do you follow ONE PIECE? Are you a fan?

yes and my moniker was gotten from whitebeard himself, was thinking of using shanks but I like wbitebeard

JackBizzle:
This thread is for Christians who are scientists, whether they are doctors, lab assistants, technicians, engineers etc.

HOW DO YOU BALANCE YOUR RELIGION WITH SCIENCE? THIS IS VECAUSE THEY CAN BE POLAR OPPOSITE AT TIMES.

JUST LOOK AT THESE QUESTIONS

1. As a biologist, how do you explain Jesus rising from the dead, when you know that a dead body can't rise again especially after 3 days?


2. Where does Jesus's other set of chromosomes come from if Joseph is not his father (no biological father)


3. As a geologist, wouldn't there be earth or soil under any body of water? Then how could God in genesis claim to have floated over deep waters and created the earth?

4. How do you reconcile pastors healing diseases with no cure? How can someone be healed of Aids, Ebola etc?

5. How can an astrophysicist look at the vast emptiness of outer space and agree that a great omniscient God created such a waste?

With the way you were promoting this piece on my page I expected it to be a blockbuster. But reading through it now just makes me laugh. These questions are meant to come from maybe 12 yr olds and not from someone who claims to be a "freethinker".

Please refer to my comment on my page where I broke down the kind of freethinker you are and you can see that this piece of yours confirms it.

Joshthefirst:
prayer has nothing to do with science, prayer is spiritual.

Of course. Science has laboratories and tangible innovations.. Prayer.. Just a huge lottery.

Joshthefirst:
It is a supernatural communication, so why do you expect science to have an opinion on it?

Thanks to science and technology, you could transact business with a Chinese man without ever meeting in person. Prayer is a supernatural communication to nowhere; only an idea that exists in your head, one that was taught to you.

Joshthefirst:
It is outside of the boundaries of science, so don't be unwise.

Of course, it would be a foolish person that demands of prayers the same scrutiny science demands of itself.

Joshthefirst:
Science is very limited, even in our bid to understand the physical universe

I agree. What has your prayer done?

Joshthefirst:
Man's heart yearns for the spiritual, and the impossible.

And science helps him achieve this. Science is with you - the phone in your hand, transmits the words you create in your mind, the electricity it runs on. Bur you import phones.. You wouldn't know how much research goes into producing this technological marvel. But you've got the Holy Spirit that reveals all things. Lmao.

Joshthefirst:
Life itself is a miracle.

God would be a greater miracle.

Joshthefirst:
Things like people parading about with an unbelief in transcendence is a miracle.

Bettet than the travesty and ridiculousness that a cross in calvary somehow freed me from God's vengeance.

How work? Still up for a fame of chess? I dey Lag btw. Guess you're still in Enugu.

spacetacular:
With the way you were promoting this piece on my page I expected it to be a blockbuster. But reading through it now just makes me laugh. These questions are meant to come from maybe 12 yr olds and not from someone who claims to be a "freethinker".

Please refer to my comment on my page where I broke down the kind of freethinker you are and you can see that this piece of yours confirms it.

You have nothing to say.

SWERVE!

Hmm... Nice replies joshthefirst.

To the point and simple

Damn! Antispam bot got me. My reply to Joshthefirst is gone. Everything. The entire post. Chai. But why?

Tearless:
Damn! Antispam bot got me. My reply to Joshthefirst is gone. Everything. The entire post. Chai. But why?

maybe you should try praying a bit more.

realtem:
Hmm... Nice replies joshthefirst.


To the point and simple

Thanks.

JackBizzle:
You have nothing to say.

SWERVE!

I have a lot to say but since your post is for scientists and doctors of which your comments show you are neither why then would I offer them to you here when they would obviously fly over your head.

Let me repeat the question I asked you on my page which you ran from as if it was a bullet about to snuff your life out. That question is below.


I thought you said you are a "freethinker". If you could "freethink" your way around my questions you wouldn't have said "I have nothing to say".

Let me show you a quote from Bertrand Russell about free thought. Kindly note the words In bold text.

"What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favour, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem.

Based on the bolder text, what evidence of your own have you got to brush aside a popular opinion or an acceptable opinion and how would you find a balance of evidence in all that? Plus do you even realise that you fit into category one of freethinkers? Those who believe based on what their elders told them.

What proof / evidence of your own have you got to brush aside what beliefs others hold?

What is your evidence that brushes aside the efficacy of PRAYER.

what is your evidence that brushes aside resuscitation?

What is your evidence that brushes aside the fact that "space" isn't a waste.

Where is your evidence that proves that science and Religion are polar opposites.

As an alleged freethinker whom you claim to be surely you must have your own evidence.

So in order to make your post complete, present properly by bringing forward Your Own evidence along with your questions then we can debate it. That's what a "freethinker" would do as proof he is one.

spacetacular:
[s]

I have a lot to say but since your post is for scientists and doctors of which your comments show you are neither why then would I offer them to you here when they would obviously fly over your head.

Let me repeat the question I asked you on my page which you ran from as if it was a bullet about to snuff your life out. That question is below.


I thought you said you are a "freethinker". If you could "freethink" your way around my questions you wouldn't have said "I have nothing to say".

Let me show you a quote from Bertrand Russell about free thought. Kindly note the words In bold text.

"What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favour, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem.

Based on the bolder text, what evidence of your own have you got to brush aside a popular opinion or an acceptable opinion and how would you find a balance of evidence in all that? Plus do you even realise that you fit into category one of freethinkers? Those who believe based on what their elders told them.

What proof / evidence of your own have you got to brush aside what beliefs others hold?

What is your evidence that brushes aside the efficacy of PRAYER.

what is your evidence that brushes aside resuscitation?

What is your evidence that brushes aside the fact that "space" isn't a waste.

Where is your evidence that proves that science and Religion are polar opposites.

As an alleged freethinker whom you claim to be surely you must have your own evidence.

So in order to make your post complete, present properly by bringing forward Your Own evidence along with your questions then we can debate it. That's what a "freethinker" would do as proof he is one.[/s]

Still nothing said

SWERVE!

sonofluc1fer:
Of course. Science has laboratories and tangible innovations.. Prayer.. Just a huge lottery.

Once again, you're comparing things that have nothing to do with each other. Science is not competing with faith or prayer as you make it out to be. Prayer is (or should be) a very personal activity, and it's results are subjective, and personal, not a lottery. You can mock prayer if you want, it's like pushing against a hill. Humanity will always reach out in prayer to deity.

sonofluc1fer: Thanks to science and technology, you could transact business with a Chinese man without ever meeting in person. Prayer is a supernatural communication to nowhere; only an idea that exists in your head, one that was taught to you.

Prayer is not an idea. It is a personal and powerful communication with the supernatural. For me, it's everything communication can be and more.

"Thank God for science"

This ^ is a prayer for me, thanking God for blessing man with intellect to learn about and control his environment!

Prayer is made out to compete with science by people like you, but it is exponential synergism for me.

sonofluc1fer: Of course, it would be a foolish person that demands of prayers the same scrutiny science demands of itself.

good.

sonofluc1fer: I agree. What has your prayer done?

My prayer has done many things, it has enriched my relationship with God, and saved lives, it has healed me and others, it has changed destinies in the unseen realm.

sonofluc1fer: And science helps him achieve this. Science is with you - the phone in your hand, transmits the words you create in your mind, the electricity it runs on. Bur you import phones.. You wouldn't know how much research goes into producing this technological marvel. But you've got the Holy Spirit that reveals all things. Lmao.

Science helps us a lot. But prayer helps me even more. Communion is the drive of my life. It helps me do my science more effectively. It has helped me speak better, it has made my intellect sharper in grasping scientific entities you do not know about. It has enriched my life and my relationships. The Holy Spirit is awesome, you know nothing about him, and I pray for you, and pity you for it.

sonofluc1fer: God would be a greater miracle.

lol. God imparted the mind and intellect that makes you understand the words I type, that activity that makes your neurons synapse and store information, the voice of your mind that expresses communication to itself. God is the creator.

sonofluc1fer: Bettet than the travesty and ridiculousness that a cross in calvary somehow freed me from God's vengeance.

It did, thank God. And the way of salvation remains open to you, because of God's grace.

sonofluc1fer: How work? Still up for a fame of chess? I dey Lag btw. Guess you're still in Enugu.

I no dey Enugu o. Cold is finishing me on the plateau.
I'm always up for a daily, should I challenge you? Or will you do the honours?

Joshthefirst, you're aware of the Harvard/Templeton foundation prayer experiment, right?
What do you have to say about it?

hopefulLandlord:
Still nothing said

SWERVE!

Nothing can be said when the poster has also said nothing. He must first lay his own argument which supports his claims then something can be said. Any reasonable person ought to know that is the proper thing to do.

You do not make claims and pretend they are questions without giving YOUR reasons (arguments) why.

spacetacular:
[s]Nothing can be said when the poster has also said nothing. He must first lay his own argument which supports his claims then something can be said. Any reasonable person ought to know that is the proper thing to do.

You do not make claims and pretend they are questions without giving YOUR reasons (arguments) why.[/s]

still nothing said

many people have responded and are responding to OP already, there's a reason he refused to mention you and you're proving him right with each inane post you make here

SWERVE!

Joshthefirst:
Once again, you're comparing things that have nothing to do with each other. Science is not competing with faith or prayer as you make it out to be. Prayer is (or should be) a very personal activity, and it's results are subjective, and personal, not a lottery. You can mock prayer if you want, it's like pushing against a hill. Humanity will always reach out in prayer to deity.


Prayer is not an idea. It is a personal and powerful communication with the supernatural. For me, it's everything communication can be and more.

"Thank God for science"

This ^ is a prayer for me, thanking God for blessing man with intellect to learn about and control his environment!

Prayer is made out to compete with science by people like you, but it is exponential synergism for me.


good.


My prayer has done many things, it has enriched my relationship with God, and saved lives, it has healed me and others, it has changed destinies in the unseen realm.


Science helps us a lot. But prayer helps me even more. Communion is the drive of my life. It helps me do my science more effectively. It has helped me speak better, it has made my intellect sharper in grasping scientific entities you do not know about. It has enriched my life and my relationships. The Holy Spirit is awesome, you know nothing about him, and I pray for you, and pity you for it.


lol. God imparted the mind and intellect that makes you understand the words I type, that activity that makes your neurons synapse and store information, the voice of your mind that expresses communication to itself. God is the creator.



It did, thank God. And the way of salvation remains open to you, because of God's grace.

I no dey Enugu o. Cold is finishing me on the plateau.
I'm always up for a daily, should I challenge you? Or will you do the honours?

Sir you are playing into their hands. The originator of this piece needs to first back up his position with his arguments. Only then can he ask any question he pleases which he thinks might refute his position.

He already has an opinion which was why he asked the questions. Allow him to back up his opinion FIRST with his personal evidence.

hopefulLandlord:
still nothing said

many people have responded and are responding to OP already, there's a reason he refused to mention you and you're proving him right with each inane post you make here

You wish to shut me up because I am giving the right approach this ought to have followed. I am sure you are glad that others are simply leaping before looking because that way you control them and dictate the pace.

spacetacular:
You wish to shut me up because I am giving the right approach this ought to have followed. I am sure you are glad that others are simply leaping before looking.

of course, you're definitely smarter than everyone that's responded and are responding to OP, you're the only one with the "right approach" and other Christians here are with the "Wrong approach"

Mrs surgeon

SWERVE! You're too smart for this thread, leave the dumber people to keep attending to it

hopefulLandlord:
of course, you're definitely smarter than everyone that's responded and are responding to OP

Mrs surgeon

Stop being vapid! Stick with the proper way debates go. Questions come from personal opinions already formed. If you wish to have someone counter your position then make your position known with your arguments then proper counters can come.

However you know if this is done then you would have no control so you simply baited the Christian folk and they are biting without first pausing to consider the essence of it all or the true reasons behind the questions.

My vocation isn't the focus but if you wish to take jabs at it then have fun but still the proper order has to be observed.

spacetacular:
Stop being vapid! Stick with the proper way debates go. Questions come from personal opinions already formed. If you wish to have someone counter your position then make your position known with your arguments then proper counters can come.

However you know if this is done then you would have no control so you simply baited the Christian folk and they are biting without first pausing to consider the essence of it all or the true reasons behind the questions.

My vocation isn't the focus but if you wish to take jabs at it then have fun but still the proper order has to be observed.

of course, you're smarter than those "Christian folks"

SWERVE! Leave those Christian folks you're smarter than to keep attending to the thread, you won't be missed

hopefulLandlord:
of course, you're smarter than those "Christian folks"

SWERVE! Leave those Christian folks you're smarter than to keep attending to the thread, you won't be missed

Stop trying to force me away for bursting your bubble. I am not smarter but I know baits when I see one and this is a bait and I wouldn't want my brothers or sisters in Christ Jesus to be your pawn which is what you are actually trying to do.

The originator of this piece has to table his arguments first. Or is he asking questions from a position of ignorance?

spacetacular:
Stop trying to force me away for bursting your bubble. I am not smarter but I know baits when I see one and this is a bait and I wouldn't want my brothers or sisters in Christ Jesus to be your pawn which is what you are actually trying to do.

The originator of this piece has to table his arguments first. Or is he asking questions from a position of ignorance?

you're too smart to fall for the bait unlike your other sisters in Christ who, unfortunately, aren't as smart and are now pawns, poor them

SWERVE!

hopefulLandlord:
you're too smart to fall for the bait unlike your other sisters in Christ who, unfortunately, aren't as smart not to see the bait

SWERVE!

In your attempted sarcasm you have spoken the truth. This is a bait and you wish to play Christians for fools by only seeking their side of the argument without offering yours first.

"wisdom is profitable to direct". My wisdom speaks contrary to your position.

spacetacular:
In your attempted sarcasm you have spoken the truth. This is a bait and you wish to play Christians for fools by only seeking their side of the argument without offering yours.

"wisdom is profitable to direct". My wisdom speaks contrary to your position.

of course, you're also wiser than those other Christians that's responded so far

They have the wrong approach, you have the right one

they're now pawns cuz they didn't see the bait, you saw the bait

they're not very wise, you're too wise and you need to direct them

if only they were British surgeons like you are

hopefulLandlord:
of course, you're also wiser than those other Christians that's responded so far

They have the wrong approach, you have the right one

they're now pawns cuz they didn't see the bait, you saw the bait

they're not very wise, you're too wise and you need to direct them

if only they were British surgeons like you are

Now you are trying to pitch me against my fellow Christians. Classic!

However it still does not obstruct the truth which I have spoken. Let your arguments which support your questions be presented first and let's subject them to scrutiny via our responses to your questions. Is that too difficult to do?

spacetacular:
Now you are trying to pitch me against my fellow Christians. Classic!

However it still does not obstruct the truth which I have spoken. Let your arguments which support your questions be presented first and let's subject them to scrutiny via our responses to your questions. Is that too difficult to do?

I don't have to pitch you, you've done that already from that pedestal you are, you're the "Queen" and they're the "pawns"

I'm done here for now

hopefulLandlord:
I don't have to pitch you, you've done that already from that pedestal you are, you're the "Queen" and they're the "pawns"

You made them your pawn by first deliberately refusing to drop your arguments which support your questions. You see there is a clear divide between atheism and Christianity and when an atheist asks questions he does so from a position of his knowledge and not arbitrarily.

We need to see his position which his questions originated from. Simple as that.

Another promising thread derailed.
What is wrong with you people sef?

CatfishBilly:
Another promising thread derailed.
What is wrong with you people sef?

There is nothing profitable about a selfishly one sided thread. All debates have positions. He cannot be moderator and debating at the same time. So In order for him to relinquish his deliberate attempt to moderate he needs to first drop his arguments which support his questions. That is simply common sense debate.

CatfishBilly:
Joshthefirst, you're aware of the Harvard/Templeton foundation prayer experiment, right?
What do you have to say about it?

1. Prayer, is entirely subjective. It means different things to different people cannot even know how much

2. We cannot completely apply limited human investigations to determine the out working of God's power.

3.They cannot even quantify the actual amount of people praying, random numbers of friends and family, etc. if we want to give them any leverage.

CatfishBilly:
Another promising thread derailed.
What is wrong with you people sef?

Lepasharon caused this by mentioning someone OP deliberately left out


OP already foresaw this which explains his refusal to mention that person