₦airaland Forum

Efewestern:
I disagree with you on this.

there are indigenous ijaw in ondo and edo
there are indigenous urhobo in bayelsa, we never migrated there, they carve our land to that state. I think you need to research.

there are indigenous igbo in Delta.

oniovo, oma mu Rio ke.

Eastfield1:
Tonye must hear this.
Cc tonyebarcanista

Kagawa10:
What's this one saying? Did you know the Ijaws are surrounded by the Ilaje who offered them these lands? The Ilajes are actually the people living at the river bank yet a river bank name (Ese Odo) was given to an inward land, far away from the river bank, what does this mean? You think the Ilajes are dumb? My people are so wise and the reason the land offered to the Ijaw was given such name so that historians will know how the Ijaws were found at the river banks hence, no eediot can claim our land!

Funny thing is the Ijaws are even far apart from their Ijaw clans in Delta and Bayelsa because the Itsekiri are found in between the Ijaws in Delta and the Ilaje in Ondo state. And let me remind you that the Ilaje surrounds the Ijaws who lives far away from the Ocean, not even at the river bank in Ondo state, Is that not funny to you? In fact, if you see this Ese Odo land, it's not even close to the Ocean unlike the Ilaje land yet it's called Ese Odo because that was how the Ijaws were found. Don't get it twisted, Ijaw has no land in Ondo state.

nonaira:
There's nothing he said in that entire post that is true. He has already been schooled repeatedly on the ignorance he stated and yet the illiterate still screech whatever nonsense that comes to his head. I don't care about Ondo or whatever as I can careless. The ijaws are more than equipped to address una on that.

cumbak60:
Your hypocrisy is disgusting. You agree that their are no Ijaws indigenous to Ondo, but at the same time kick against Igbos indigenous to Delta and Rivers state. No wonder Nigeria is such a shiit hole, like father like son, e.g Obasanjo and co, the mastermind behind Igbo balkanisation.
Modified:
Most states today where created in the 90s... State creation does not determines ethnic group. Igbos span from present day S'East down to the most recent S'South. You can argue that of the Ijaws in Ondo, but that of the Igbos in Delta and Rivers, ancient history is there to prove that they are aborigines to their land.

cumbak60:
Lies. Are you saying that Asaba that is less than 30 km from Onitsha but more than a 100 km to Warri is Uhrogbo/Benin land? Guy, e'jekwere akwukwo Why are you trying to turn history upside down? Please, Anioma sons on this fora should school this land-grabber before its too late.

itchie:
All I see above is an epistle of stupidity and the nonsensical rantings of a deluded individual.

itchie:
Don't mind those ignorant idiots. They want to come and tell me my own history. I know who I am and where I'm from. I don't need to debate with any ignorant nonentity about that.

Kagawa10:
Lol!

I know you're expecting someone who will tell the lie you loves to champion but I won't.

Let me ask you this, are there no Yoruba in Ugbodu in Delta state? Do Yoruba claim these land as theirs? Why then do Ibo claim Delta people land? The Bini are found in Agbor yet the Binis do not lay claim to the land because they know they migrated to the place, even as the Yoruba in Ugbodo did.. Yet Ibos won't let us rest over peoples' land.

I don't have problem with your claim of Ibo just know that your people migrated to the place. Kapish!

Newmanluckyman:
...are there no no Yoruba in Kwara state? Why is Yoruba claiming them? Fantastically hypocrite.

Kagawa10:
I'm only telling you the truth. The truth is there are no Ijaw indigenous to Ondo, even as there no Ibo indigenous to Delta.

And which Obasanjo balkanised which land? You keep forgetting that Delta and Edo were Midwest region long ago, even before they were separated into Delta and Edo yet you talk about them being balkanised. And let me remind you that the Midwest was never part of the Eastern region unlike River state.

Kagawa10:
Who's disputing where you're from? Is anyone disputing where Yoruba in ugbodu are from? The fact is neither land is Ibo nor Yoruba. It belongs to the Urhobo, Ijaws and The Itsekiris!

Anioma people are all migrants, including Ugbodu people!

cumbak60:
Why are you thinking like an idiot? The different Igboid group that resisted the incursion of the British into their land are now immigrants? The Igbodo yorubas are immigrants, yes, because they still retain their Yoruboid language.... but the Igbos in the Western Delta have been in existence even before the rise of the Benin empire. History is littered on the many battles fought between the Binis and Western Igbos, the most recent the Ubulu Ukwu wars. Stop acting like a goat, history revisionist. The British balkanized western Igbos from their kins after the Ekumeku wars. Nigerian government took it further when they chopped up most East Central State to form today Rivers State.

cumbak60:
Treachery is embeded in your DNA. Not surprise, where you are coming from speaks volumes. So Anioma land belongs to the Urhobo, Ijaws and the Itsekiris! God, Afonjas will always remain an Afonja. I don't blame my kinsmen for loathing you people, I swear.

Kagawa10:
Lol!

The fact is majority of the tribes in Delta are Bini offshoot. Everyone knows this, even Onitsha was founded by the Binis. In fact, the British gave you Ibo an identity by mingling your ancestors with people because according to historians, the Ibos were clannish in nature and hardly interact with people until the British came and found your lots yet you want to claim the land? Abegi..

nengibo:
Pat utomi for example, he is also from a multi-ethnic state but he identifies as an Igbo even though he bears a non-igbo name, would u say dat has hampered his political chance in the Niger delta?

Kagawa10:
Which treachery are you talking about? Because I speak the truth? Lol!

Kagawa10:
The truth hurts bah? Lol.

I'm all for the truth.. Even history told us that the Midwest had wanted the Ibo living among them to move back to join their Eastern brothers over the river Niger bank because the Midwest feared the Ibos would betray them and they did betray the Midwest. No Ibo is indigenous to the Midwest which is Delta and Edo today. Get that sunk into your brain.

Kapish!

itchie:
Continue wallowing in your own ignorance. If you chose to believe a stupid tale by whoever, that's your own cup of tea. I don't have time to waste debating with ignoramuses. I'm done with you. Good day

cumbak60:
“In honest hands, literacy is the surest and the most effective means to true education. In dishonest hands, it may be a most dangerous, in fact a suicidal, acquisition.”
– Obafemi Awolowo






Recently, Ijaw elder statesman, Pa Edwin Clark had featured himself into some Nigerian news media, saying things you ordinary wouldn’t want to imagine he’ll say despite the fact that age is telling on him. First, Pa Clark was quoted as saying the unity of Nigeria is not negotiable. I believe many learned and honest Nigerians assume that to be his personal opinion and hence refused to comment on such illogical and unintelligent assertion by Pa Clark. While the living kept quiet and chose to ignore such a reckless and relevance –seeking comment by Pa Clark, the memories of Pa Clark’s ancestors and Ijaw men and women who died in one way or the other resisting the British imposition of Nigeria on the Ijaw peoples may not keep mute. The statement by Pa Clark insults the sensibilities of those Ijaw people at Udi, those whose waters are no longer drinkable due to oil spillages from oil explorations that were mostly ignored.

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It seem the first statement did not earn Pa Clark the desired relevance he was desperate to get so he resorted to involving Igbos into it to prove to the rest Nigerians that he means business. While the story of Pa Clark’s existence is currently riddled with all forms of betrayals, selfishness and back-stabbing, one would expect that in his old age, Pa Clark would turn a new leaf and leave at least, one or two good memories behind. But it seem the old man have decided to prove the old saying right; that one does not learn to be left-handed at old age.


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Dr Peter Odili, Former Governor of Rivers State (an Igbo from Ndoni group)


Owing to the fact that until this moment, no Ijaw organization had openly declared having delegated Pa Clark as their spokesperson, hence I will treat every of Clark’s assertions as mere personal opinion. If you read the last interview granted to pa Clark, you’ll see how desperate pa Clark have become in his effort to seek relevance and register his name in the good book of this current disastrous APC government – as he had done to previous administrations in this country. During the tumultuous and equally unproductive reign of his kinsman, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, Pa Clark was handy to create relevance for himself and got himself attached as one of the parasites of that government. When Goodluck was voted out, Pa Clark as usual, turned around to bite the very hands of his kinsman that moments ago, was feeding him.
This is Clark. Pa Clark was so untrustworthy that Reuben Abati had to personally declare that “Clark is a typical example of people that leaders in power should not have around them.” And that ““I am not necessarily saying that the Ijaw leader should have remained loyal to and defend Goodluck Jonathan because they are both Ijaws; patriotism definitely could be stronger than ethnic affinities. Nonetheless, that E. K. Clark tale about leaving politics and becoming a statesman is nothing but sheer crap. If Jonathan had returned to office, he would still be a card-carrying member of the PDP and the ‘father of the president’ and we would still have been hearing that famous phrase, ‘my son’. Chief E. K. Clark, five months after, has practically told the world that President Buhari is better than ‘his own son’. It is the worst form of humiliation that President Jonathan has received since he left office.” This is Pa Edwin Clark. If there is a dictionary of dishonesty in Nigeria, it must surely be littered with Pa Clark’s name!

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This response however, is not going to dwell on the many deeds of Pa Clark that is evidently ridden with lies, double-standards and selfishness for that will probably take a whole book to describe. I am therefore, replying to Pa Edwin Clark on his infusion of ‘Igbo’ in his latest sycophantic remarks on the Igbo, using South East, Rivers state and Delta state as a yardstick of his unintellectual debauchery. In his remarks, Pa Clark wrongly insinuated that Igbo, began and ended in the Nigerian decimated region known as South East. On a very good day – minus the sad fact that many Nigerians, young and old from the Southern region of Nigeria mistook Clark’s being to schools and wielding degrees as ‘education and intelligence’, Clark’s statements deserves only a disappointing shrug from the populace and a complete review of his alleged educational qualifications. First, there is no doubt that Pa Clark is wholesomely ignorant of geography, History and ethnology. Pa Clark was there when the geographical anomaly tagged South South was created and all of us dragged into it.




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Right Hon Chibuike Rotimi , Former governor of Rivers state (An Igbo from Rivers State)


Because not everybody is aware that Pa Clark is selfish, and a very good candidate on issues of double-standards, it will be good we quickly unveil the personalities of Pa Clark to those set of people who mistook him for ‘elderly statesman’ or a well-informed patriot. Pa Clark told his interviews that there were no Igbos in Rivers state. One would have taken him serous and maybe, challenged him to a debate he will lose at the begging, but Clark had already shot himself on the foot on the topic on several occasions. During the 2007 PDP presidential primaries, Pa Clark was very vocal in declaring Chief Peter Odili, former governor of Rivers state an Igbo and claimed that Igbos should not represent the Niger Delta. Odili is an Ndoni man, Ndoni is clearly an Igboid subgroup in Rivers state. In the days of Okocha versus Uduaghan in Delta Stae, Pa Clark was also very vocal in asserting that Okocha was an Igbo man and he Clark and the ‘real Deltans’ cannot afford to have Delta state capital in Asaba, Igboland and as well have Okocha, an Igbo man as governor while the ‘real Deltans ‘ watched. In Rivers state, men like Chibuike Amaechi had continiously reminded the Clarks’s that they are Igbo, but Pa Clark believed he is the right person to define them.



“Clark is a typical example of people that leaders in power should not have around them.” And that ““I am not necessarily saying that the Ijaw leader should have remained loyal to and defend Goodluck Jonathan because they are both Ijaws; patriotism definitely could be stronger than ethnic affinities. Nonetheless, that E. K. Clark tale about leaving politics and becoming a statesman is nothing but sheer crap. If Jonathan had returned to office, he would still be a card-carrying member of the PDP and the ‘father of the president’ and we would still have been hearing that famous phrase, ‘my son’. Chief E. K. Clark, five months after, has practically told the world that President Buhari is better than ‘his own son’. It is the worst form of humiliation that President Jonathan has received since he left office.” This is Pa Edwin Clark. If there is a dictionary of dishonesty in Nigeria, it must surely be littered with Pa Clark’s name!


One silly part of Edwin’s claim was that the Igbos of Rivers state and those of Delta state are no longer Igbos but Rivers people and Deltans. On the same ground, Pa Edwin Clark insists that the Ijaw in Rivers, Delta Edo and Ondo are as Ijaw as the ones in Bayelsa. In other words, the Ijaw in Rivers is not Rivers man/woman like their Igbo counterpart, but Ijaw. The Ijaw in Delta state are not called Deltans, but Ijaw unlike us the Igbos in Delta who must become Deltans and not Igbo. In this line of thinking, Pa Edwin Clark is not alone, with him are many gullible humans in our region. One would have asked Pa Clark exactly why the Ijaw outside Bayelsa are Ijaw while the Igbo outside South East are no longer Igbo, but then Pa Clark was not honestly gullible. His double-standard is well intended and we have seen enough of it already. The right question is why did Pa Clark tag Ibe Kachikwu, Peter Odili and Okocha Igbos when it helped him deny them of their political ambitions and untagged them when it favors him? The answer remains the same: Pa Clark is a liar. One more thing: while did Asaba become Igboland when it suits Clark and becomes just ‘Delta’ when it suits him also?

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Dr Ibe Kachikwu, GMD, NNPC an Igbo from Delta state


I will advise the handlers of Pa Edwin Clark to guide him accordingly especially now that people’s utterances are recorded in the internet. It is not the duty of Pa Clark to tell us when to be Igbo and when not to be. He should focus more on helping his Ijaw people get at least clean environments devoid of oil spillages from the federal government. He should not be allowed to publicly display his ugly linen in public. Even a kid would laugh at Clark claiming that A Chinwendu in Asaba is more related to a Pa Edwin Clark or a Diepriye of Bayelsa than another Chinwendu from Onitsha. Maybe Pa Clark is not intelligent enough to know who is his ethnic brothers and sisters and depends on the Nigerian political boundary makers to tell him who his ethnic brothers are. Evidently, if a new boundary adjustment is made including Ondo state in South South, Yoruba people will probably become ethnic brothers and sisters to the old man and his like. We know our ethnic brothers and sisters when we see them.




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Chief Ralph Uwechue, (late) Ex Ohaneze President from Delta State


And to those forming a RONDEL, this goes out to you: if you depend on the Nigerian political mapping to know who your ethnic brothers and sister are, you are simply gullible and mostly ignorant. To Pa Clark, your current age deserves rest. Go and have a lot of rest. If there is anything a youth can learn from Clark, it is to avoid everything that Pa Clark did.

By Chiwndu Carlos...
an Igbo from Delta.

http://www.aekwe.com/2017/07/response-to-pa-edwin-clark-on-rivers-state-delta-state-and-ndi-igbo-by-chinwendu-carlos/

Kagawa10:
Lol!

I know you're expecting someone who will tell the lie you loves to champion but I won't.

Let me ask you this, are there no Yoruba in Ugbodu in Delta state? Do Yoruba claim these land as theirs? Why then do Ibo claim Delta people land? The Bini are found in Agbor yet the Binis do not lay claim to the land because they know they migrated to the place, even as the Yoruba in Ugbodo did.. Yet Ibos won't let us rest over peoples' land.

I don't have problem with your claim of Ibo just know that your people migrated to the place. Kapish!

cumbak60:
Your hypocrisy is disgusting. You agree that their are no Ijaws indigenous to Ondo, but at the same time kick against Igbos indigenous to Delta and Rivers state. No wonder Nigeria is such a shiit hole, like father like son, e.g Obasanjo and co, the mastermind behind Igbo balkanisation.
Modified:
Most states today where created in the 90s... State creation does not determines ethnic group. Igbos span from present day S'East down to the most recent S'South. You can argue that of the Ijaws in Ondo, but that of the Igbos in Delta and Rivers, ancient history is there to prove that they are aborigines to their land.

Sanchez01:
Oh, so the Ijaws are expected to come and save you in a discourse that had nothing to do with them from the outset?

I have no interest in sowing seeds of discord but the truth must be pronounced. I grew up in a complex environment with the Ijaws and the Ilajes being the dominant groups therein. I recall how the Ijaws came into the area at the time, way back as far as 1990. Today, they claim they own the place and have been there from time immemorial. Interestingly, the said place is Mile 12, Lagos, specifically the river edge within Omobanta.

There are no indigenous Ijaws in Ondo, just as there are no indigenous Igbos in Delta, the same way there are no indigenous Urhobos in Bayelsa. The same applies to the Yorubas.

It is one thing your land was claimed or cut off, just as the case is with a part of Rivers which naturally belongs to the Igbos, and it is another to claim you are indigenous to a land when history clearly beams its spotlight on how your people got there.

nonaira:
There's no yoruba in Ugbodu. The Ugbodu said they migrated from yorubaland yes but they are this very day NEVER EVER claim being yoruba. Yoruba are the ones pitifully trying to claim them simply because of their migration history despite they have long disassociated themselves from una. My sister recently married into that community so I know directly what that community ascribe their ethnicity as. THEY are NOT yoruba and don't claim such either hence, you don't have any mouth to claim their land.

Heck we had a celebrity that was from there.... recall Zeal Onyecheme from styl plus is said to be from there. Despite the members of his group were yoruba, how many times did he claim yoruba? Infact the boy wad known as the igbo boy in styl plus no be so? How many times did he come out to denouce that claim.

Helen Anyamelune, before she died (may her soul RIP), was known as one of the first igbo from delta to win miss. Nigeria. During that era, she NEVER denounced that statement, nor came out to claim yoruba.

The thing is you people have been told this repeatedly by several aniomas on this forum that yes Ugbodu have history to yoruba and they acknowledge it but now, they have assimilated here and do not see themselves as yoruba. It's similar to how onitsha claim to come from bini but they do not claim bini now. You've been told this REPEATEDLY but since una have been trying so fucking hard to claim being part of delta and iteskiri won't let una use them, you people have now pitifully trying to use Ugbodu. Pitiful.

Secondly Agbor till date is still one of the controversial about their history. There are some bini migrants that moved to Agbor that have been rewriting their history to claim bini as their origin. While there are others from Agbor that disagrees with that narration. The current dein claims they were bini because he was raised in the place of the oba of bini, likewise he is half bini.
A past dein says otherwise, hence that area identity is controversial. this shit was posted to you when you started your stupidity. I screenshot it for you incase your ignorant ass tries to deny it.
Heck uti nwachukwu is said to be from Agbor. How many times have you seen him denouncing being igbo. Heck does he not attend igbo conventions?

As for ukwuani also have the same controversy as Ika. Likewise, an Ukwuani king addressed this already and the post made it on NL
https://www.nairaland.com/3153424/liedanioma-igbo-part-biafrat-ruler
Heck Ngozi123 addressed you already about your stupidity and she herself has ukwuani ancestry. You just refuse to listen because you're too much of an idiot to grasp wtf people tell you. Whatever nonsense that comes in that stupid head of yours, you run with it no matter how much of an illiterate and ignorant it makes you look. You dont know Jack Sh1t about another community. I suggest keep your stupid mouth shut.

nonaira:
There's no yoruba in Ugbodu. The Ugbodu said they migrated from yorubaland yes but they are this very day NEVER EVER claim being yoruba. Yoruba are the ones pitifully trying to claim them simply because of their migration history despite they have long disassociated themselves from una. My sister recently married into that community so I know directly what that community ascribe their ethnicity as. THEY are NOT yoruba and don't claim such either hence, you don't have any mouth to claim their land.

Heck we had a celebrity that was from there.... recall Zeal Onyecheme from styl plus is said to be from there. Despite the members of his group were yoruba, how many times did he claim yoruba? Infact the boy wad known as the igbo boy in styl plus no be so? How many times did he come out to denouce that claim.

Helen Anyamelune, before she died (may her soul RIP), was known as one of the first igbo from delta to win miss. Nigeria. During that era, she NEVER denounced that statement, nor came out to claim yoruba.

The thing is you people have been told this repeatedly by several aniomas on this forum that yes Ugbodu have history to yoruba and they acknowledge it but now, they have assimilated here and do not see themselves as yoruba. It's similar to how onitsha claim to come from bini but they do not claim bini now. You've been told this REPEATEDLY but since una have been trying so fucking hard to claim being part of delta and iteskiri won't let una use them, you people have now pitifully trying to use Ugbodu. Pitiful.

Secondly Agbor till date is still one of the controversial about their history. There are some bini migrants that moved to Agbor that have been rewriting their history to claim bini as their origin. While there are others from Agbor that disagrees with that narration. The current dein claims they were bini because he was raised in the place of the oba of bini, likewise he is half bini.
A past dein says otherwise, hence that area identity is controversial. this shit was posted to you when you started your stupidity. I screenshot it for you incase your ignorant ass tries to deny it.
Heck uti nwachukwu is said to be from Agbor. How many times have you seen him denouncing being igbo. Heck does he not attend igbo conventions?

As for ukwuani also have the same controversy as Ika. Likewise, an Ukwuani king addressed this already and the post made it on NL
https://www.nairaland.com/3153424/liedanioma-igbo-part-biafrat-ruler
Heck Ngozi123 addressed you already about your stupidity and she herself has ukwuani ancestry. You just refuse to listen because you're too much of an idiot to grasp wtf people tell you. Whatever nonsense that comes in that stupid head of yours, you run with it no matter how much of an illiterate and ignorant it makes you look. You dont know Jack Sh1t about another community. I suggest keep your stupid mouth shut.

Kagawa10:
Onitsha was even founded by the Binis, so what are you saying? Abegi.. No one is turning history upside down apart from the ibos. Stop claiming people's land!

cumbak60:
You do have to debunk their lies. The world should know the truth. These guys are masters in the act of treachery and sabotage once Igbos are involve .
Lies repeated a thousand times, begin to sound like the truth. Alsace Lorance belonged to the French, but the Prussians went to war to claim it.... This was as a result of repeated lies and the rich iron ore deposit in the said area. You have to school them, so they stay off your land. You can imagine claiming that Anioma land belongs to the Ijaws and co. Ndi Anioma should sit up.

Ngozi123:
They only hear what they want to hear. I thank God that my family is from across Igboland as it has given me an insight into what's really going on here. When I saw that they were trying to claim Onitsha people as Bini, I realised that these people are truly shameless.

Kagawa10:
Lol! Claim who? When we know they are strangers in the said land, even as the whole Anioma..

You people will never cease to amaze me. Better get off people's land that you keep claiming and go back to the east even as we will reinstate our Olukunmi brothers back to the SW when shite hits the fans. Does Asaba/ Asagba sound ibo to your dull brain? Lol!

Kagawa10:
Lol! Claim who? When we know they are strangers in the said land, even as the whole Anioma..

You people will never cease to amaze me. Better get off people's land that you keep claiming and go back to the east even as we will reinstate our Olukunmi brothers back to the SW when shite hits the fans. Does Asaba/ Asagba sound ibo to your dull brain? Lol!