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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:54pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
I don't think I see Diego Milito and Samir Handanovic in your list for inter.

These are world class players. At some point handanovic is among the best Gk in the world
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 4:54pm On Aug 16, 2017
CapitalCee:


Ofcourse, my idea of world class is you must be at least top 5 in your position at any point in your Career, not necessarily now but at any point in your Career or at least win the player of the season at a Major European league(EPL, Laliga, Bundesliga and seria A)

The only world class players currently playing in EPL are :

Coutious, D.Costa, Hazard, Fabregas, Kante, Harry Kane,Hugo Lloris, Aguero, Kompany, D.Silva, Yaya Toure, Coutinho, Petr Cech, Sanchez, Ozil, De Gea, Ibrahimovic, Pogba, Mkhitaryan,Matic, Mahrez and Baba Wazza.

Luiz, Alderweireld, Kocsielny, Mata, Azpilicueta, Jesus, Lukaku,Mane, Lacazzete and Bailly are good players but are not world class.

I might have missed some names though
How is Azpilicueta not world class but Kompany is?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 4:57pm On Aug 16, 2017
CapitalCee:


Jesus!!!; Kanu and Mikel world class? What do you mean won more trophies, John O'Shea won more trophies than Luis Suarez
was O'shea not effectively used by fergie
was O'Shea not part of man utd successful team, did he played any part
common dude, this guy was too much then he plays any position deployed to him very well
every players cant be like messi or cr7, some do the dirty and the hard job that's John O'Shea
he's a motherfucking world class IMO
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:00pm On Aug 16, 2017
dopeJemi:


parading world class players doesn't make you bigger, currently man city and Chelsea boasts of more world class players than man untied but they know their mates. by the way, how have Dortmund paraded more world class players than arsenal?

Aston Villa, Nottingham forest, Ajax are champions league winners

we are not seriously using stadium size as a yardstick to judge who is bigger, are we? man city have a bigger stadium than Bayern Munich, we know who the bosses are between the two


Etihad 56,000
Allianz arena 75,000

So 56 is greater than 75? Sipping my vannila engine oil cool cool cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:02pm On Aug 16, 2017
dopeJemi:


I can agree with that but Dortmund? hell no

Why is Arsenal bigger than DOrtmund?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:02pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
How is Azpilicueta not world class but Kompany is?

Kompany captained city to an EPL title as the leader, and at that time he is one of the best 3 central defenders in the game. He has been nominated several times among Fifa general short list for best players in the WORLD.

Azpilicueta is just a very good player that hardly puts a foot wrong but, is the 3rd choice RB at the national team behind juanfran and Dani carvajal. He is good a good player but not world class.. Kompany at his prime will walk into any national team
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:05pm On Aug 16, 2017
sod09:
den you wrong kanu and mikel won more trophies than all you listed
Rooney? Ibrahimovic?
Ibrahimovic that won everywhere he went??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 5:07pm On Aug 16, 2017
Odunharry:

Rooney? Ibrahimovic?

Ibrahimovic that won everywhere he went??
was Rooney Nd Ibrahim in the list
lol...I was only making a point
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:09pm On Aug 16, 2017
sod09:
was Rooney Nd Ibrahim in the list lol...I was only making a point
Check na. Baba wazza is Rooney
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:12pm On Aug 16, 2017
raumdeuter:

Why is Arsenal bigger than DOrtmund?
why is Dortmund bigger than Arsenal
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:12pm On Aug 16, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:12pm On Aug 16, 2017
CapitalCee:


These are world class players. At some point handanovic is among the best Gk in the world
Handa wetin.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:13pm On Aug 16, 2017
sinizia:


I don't agree with Dortmund at all too, that's why I focused on Inter alone. Arsenal is above Dortmund's level.

Give reasons for the bold
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:13pm On Aug 16, 2017
dopeJemi:
why is Dortmund bigger than Arsenal

Champions league winner, Recent CL finalist. now tell me why Arsenal is bigger than Dortmund
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:29pm On Aug 16, 2017
CapitalCee:


Kompany captained city to an EPL title as the leader, and at that time he is one of the best 3 central defenders in the game. He has been nominated several times among Fifa general short list for best players in the WORLD.

Azpilicueta is just a very good player that hardly puts a foot wrong but, is the 3rd choice RB at the national team behind juanfran and Dani carvajal. He is good a good player but not world class.. Kompany at his prime will walk into any national team

If Kompany was a Spanish player, Ramos and Pique would've made sure he rots on the bench. The Fabregas that you listed as world-class played understudy to Xavi and Iniesta. To get a shirt during Spain's dominant era no be moi-moi.

So national team levels plays a part in it. I still consider Kompany as a top defender, though. Koscielny is a quality defender, the team he plays for are not top quality.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Neymar1095(m): 5:37pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
How is Azpilicueta not world class but Kompany is?

How d Bleep is azpilicuta world class. Bench player for Spain
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:40pm On Aug 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Give reasons for the bold

There are exceptions to every rule or to some rules, and using my European titles benchmark will see Dortmund topple Assnal, but I believe Arsenal is bigger than Dortmund.

When it comes to total trophies, Assnal beats them. When it comes to number of leagues won, Assnal beats them. Assnal loses out against them in the European scene but with more financial warchest, fans, more power to compete for players over Dortmund, I'll go for Assnal being bigger than Dortmund.


It's highly debatable, but I think I'll go with Assnal on this one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 5:41pm On Aug 16, 2017
Odunharry:

Check na. Baba wazza is Rooney
apologies for the blasphemy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:43pm On Aug 16, 2017
lekkie073:
what do u mean by big?
is inter Milan a small club, or is Dortmund a small club



van persie came to manutd at d age of 29 from arsenal.
is arsenal a bigger club than Dortmund and inter Milan?
How's Arsenal not bigger than Dortmund and Inter?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sod09(m): 5:43pm On Aug 16, 2017
hensben:
Handa wetin.
I suprise sef
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 5:45pm On Aug 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Champions league winner, Recent CL finalist. now tell me why Arsenal is bigger than Dortmund

Assnal have made the UCL final though not as recent as Dortmund's. Finalist doesn't matter anyway, it's the trophy that counts the most. Plus Dortmund aren't the force they used to be when they reached that stage.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 5:46pm On Aug 16, 2017
Neymar1095:


How d Bleep is azpilicuta world class. Bench player for Spain
That because he has a better player in the name of Carvajal in front of him. Carvajal would bench every RB in the world wherever he finds himself.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Neymar1095(m): 5:56pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
That because he has a better player in the name of Carvajal in front of him. Carvajal would bench every RB in the world wherever he finds himself.
What if i tell u his not Spain second choice Right back
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:59pm On Aug 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Champions league winner, Recent CL finalist. now tell me why Arsenal is bigger than Dortmund

Nottingham forest are champions league winners, Recent CL finalist you say, they must be bigger than Chelsea or man united

what else?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:02pm On Aug 16, 2017
sod09:
apologies for the blasphemy
No wahala baba.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:02pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
That because he has a better player in the name of Carvajal in front of him. Carvajal would bench every RB in the world wherever he finds himself.
. I disagree.. Only Dani Alves can bench every RB.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 6:09pm On Aug 16, 2017
Arsenal FC is clearly a bigger club than BVB Dortmund. One could even argue that they are bigger than Inter as well.

Inter's 18 League titles are cosmetic dressing; they won 5 on the trot during the collapse of the Italian league following matchfixing allegations to Juve and AC Milan.

The San Siro is not their exclusive preserve as they share it with AC Milan.

They are no longer internationally more recognised than Arsenal, Worth far less and do not control the sort of followership (both social media and otherwise) that Arsenal FC does.

I don't know what else can be used to rate which the bigger club is, but using UCL titles is grossly simplistic as Celtics, Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest have done exactly that and are still minnows in the grand scheme of things.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:16pm On Aug 16, 2017
sinizia:


If Kompany was a Spanish player, Ramos and Pique would've made sure he rots on the bench. The Fabregas that you listed as world-class played understudy to Xavi and Iniesta. To get a shirt during Spain's dominant era no be moi-moi.

So national team levels plays a part in it. I still consider Kompany as a top defender, though. Koscielny is a quality defender, the team he plays for are not top quality.

That being said. Azpilicueta never reached the level of Kompany. Kompany at his Peak was among the best.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:17pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
That because he has a better player in the name of Carvajal in front of him. Carvajal would bench every RB in the world wherever he finds himself.

Juanfran?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 6:22pm On Aug 16, 2017
pamcode:
That because he has a better player in the name of Carvajal in front of him. Carvajal would bench every RB in the world wherever he finds himself.
Carvajal will be a minus in many teams, even the current United team, he is excellent going forward, but in defence, he is less than average
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Neymar1095(m): 6:24pm On Aug 16, 2017
ToyinDipo:

Carvajal will be a minus in many teams, even the current United team, he is excellent going forward, but in defence, he is less than average
That's not true at all. carvajal is solid defensively.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 6:26pm On Aug 16, 2017
Neymar1095:

That's not true at all. carvajal is solid defensively.
I hear you

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