Acidosis:
The way Freeze and his cohorts cry over this tithe issue is becoming worrisome.

You guys don't even realize the fact that in any religious organization or NGO, you can't control what and how people should give.

A single woman recently built a #1bn cathedral for Living Faith Church, and you guys think Pastors/Churches survive on Tithe/Offering?

Freeze's arguments are highly laughable. People donate willingly in most Churches even without being compelled.

donating willingly is quite different from the subliminal coercion into paying tithe which was specifically meant for the levites because they had no land, no jobs, had absolutely nothing. Heb 7vs5.

ogologoamu:


Since their are no biblical backing asking Christians to tithe, are their biblical backing asking Christians not to tithe?.

Which of these two do you think is of a higher priority to heaven: Giving to the needy, hungry, poor, sick and orphaned or erecting gigantic physical structures here and there through a taxation system(modern day tithing) by the church?

aribisala0:


Outside Nigeria

I don't have a say .That is what Jesus said>


Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’
Mark 10:21-22
Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’ When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Luke 14:12-14
He said also to the one who had invited him, ‘When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind. And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you, for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.’

This sir, is the focal point, the long and the short of giving referenced by Jesus. This is heaven's top priority with regards the subject of giving. Sadly, this will be watered down and most times avoided all together but a questionable emphasis is continually made on tithing(a taxation system exclusively meant to be remitted to the lineage of the levites)

Tolubae1:
wen u go abut spending ur entire life pinging, twitting, facebooking, istagram hw wud u knw wiot d Bible says abut tithe and offering? Even Jesus in d Bible paid tithe wen he told his disciples to go to d river and they will see a golden fish catch it open d mouth of the fish they will see coins, the disciples shud use it to pay tithe for him and themselves, and wen sum Pharisees like u and freeze came up to him to ask him stupidly if it was advisable to pay tithe wot did Jesus tell them, he said give unto Caesar wot is Caesar's and unto God wot is Gods', so wen hypocrites in d likes of you and freeze sit in ur hole and judge people wen u don't knw wot d Bible even say, I can not help but pity u guys, its only obvious DAT wen d blind lead the blind they both fall into a ditch, u better be care, and go read up Malachi 3:8-13 and knw wot God says abut those that don't pay their tithes, and if don't does not convince u before u dare to reply, take a bus to3rd mainland bridge and kill ursef ODE

How can you so confidently relish in ignorance? When did paying governmental taxes equate to paying tithe to the church?

Diamondville:
read hebrews 7:2

For the sake of specificity and the blotting of erroneous doctrines, will you be kind to extend your read to verse 5 of the same book and chapter you quoted. Mull over it thoroughly.

Built2last:


That your phone spoils when you don't pay tithe shows that you don't understand the God you serve. He is not interested in your phone. It's a man made device subject to develop errors.that it's none payment of tithe that affects it is only an in figment of your imaginations.

You are poor and use cheap phones. Ask God to bless you with money. Buy a good phone with two year warranty. Insure it and tithe will have no business in it....mind you.i pay tithe in appreciation for God's goodness towards me not that if I don't pay things get bad or I am cursed. Christ the ultimate gift to man has redeemed us from the curse of the law

you are just ignorant and arrogant, I'm not poor, I'm rich and wealthy, the problem you people have is the inability to comprehend the phenomenon that surrounds people's life, in which you tried but when failed woefully tried to put up a defensive mechanism of antagonism to counter their assertion. You are not me, I'm not you, I know what I know and I understood what I understood and why things around me are so, it's my faith, my belief, my life my course in Christ Jesus and I understands it more than anyone else. It's lawful to tithe, take it or leave it.

RealityShot:
who are those in the position of the levites in the church today?

why'd those devoting their time to fending for the sheep God today be considered different from levites?

In the old testament, there are priests and they are levies.

oruma19:
I would have addresses ur Bleep up and ignorance but I won't wana give u such dignity. I rest my case . people u can't advise
1. A girl/ boy in love
2. A buhari supporter
3. A rich man/ woman
4. An indoctrinated church goer.

wow !! indoctrinated ..... as long as those doctrines are very much in line with the bible ...bro i wanna remain a zombie . Keep ur money !!
ignorance ke ,,nah !! bro am aware my pastor is living big,,blessed nd has a private jet...
what dignity is left in a man who spends thousands of naira in bars nd cum to nairaland to argue stop paying tithe.. i no holy,,i ova social,,guilty of many things but in my worldliness i knw the "TRUTH"

oruma19:
understand this matter, it isn't about 10%, it is about the truth, its about what the bible says. My dear, bible does not support what the pastors are doing. I love to give to God's work BT let the pastor not cajole me and threaten me into giving. Freewill giving is the gospel, not by force paying. Get the crux of the matter rite.

and what part of the bible says when you pay your tithe you are giving it to pastors sir?

Why do you pay tithe as a Christian?

mikejj:
and what part of the bible says when you pay your tithe you are giving it to pastors sir?

somehow:
Why do you pay tithe as a Christian?

malachi 3 vs 8-11 answers you bro.give to cesar what belongs to cesar and God what belongs to God.tithe belongs to God.

Leonbonapart:
God speed bro.... God speed

AMEN

Topgainer:

Pastor Bedspread, this is for your consideration since we pastors don't have the kind of quotations that would support our Tithe Scheme, we may find a way to smuggle this into the New Testament Bible. Our headache is that the Bible does not permit additions.
Excerpts from the proposed Book of Tithe ( by Bishop Daddy Papa) to be included in the revised new testament.
Verse 1. If it is not your field you dare not put mouth. All Christians should allow the ordained Gentile-Levites collect and manage that money.

2. You dare not ask the Daddy Papa how he used the money.
Verse 3. you shall allow God to judge the usuage because it doesn't concern you.
Verse 4. If you are not paying you shall get divine curses from Jesus
Verse 5. If you are not paying, you shall not dissuade those obeying the command afterall it is not your money.
Verse 6. I tithe, come and beat me.
Verse 7. Unto you Christians it is given this law to bring all the money tithe to the Pastor and his Church Center.
Verse 8. The Pastor is hereby commanded to use it to build Universities, estates, businesses and corporations for the Lord.
Verse 9. The Pastor must ensure that tithe cards and registers are printed and issued out to all Christians. Defaulters shall not be allowed to wed, be buried or have the Church attend to them.
Verse 10. Anybody who questions the status quo shall die.
Chapter 2
Verse 1. Concerning the methods of tithing that Jesus did not teach while on earth which I have packaged by revelation to special humans for all Christians.
2. The Gentile Pastors are hereby changed to Levites. All privileges accorded to the Levites of the descendants of Levi are extended to them.
3. However, they are permitted to own lands, do businesses, sell books and anything they so desire to Christians.
4. Tithe is a commandment which Jesus forgot to pass to the Apostles.
5. Tithe can bless you oh sons of men
6. Tithe can protect you and all that concerns you
7. Tithe can provide all your needs
8. Tithe ensures you receive mercy
9. Tithe makes you very rich and opens the revelation of money to you
10. Tithe makes you not to lack and ensures no devils attack your home appliances
11. Tithe makes your finances not to be tight
12. Tithe will help man of god procure and maintain jets which are the only vehicle required to take the gospel to London, Paris, Dubai, Constantinople, Dubai and New york.
13. Pastors must preach tithe to members as in it lies their financial liberation.
14. Payment of tithe ensures you don't ever visit mechanics
15. Payment of tithe insures your health, you don't have to spend money in hospitals
16. Payment of tithe insures you against armed robbers and thieves.
17. Payment of tithe will help you make heaven and avoid curses.
18. All tithes of Agricultural yields and spoils of war are hereby suspended. From henceforth, tithe will be money. Times have changed.
19. All these Revelations did not come to Apostle Paul, but to gentile Bishops who are scattered all over Africa and among the black races.
20. All treasures of money, financial explosions, the keys to world banks and gold mines are reserved for Christians who pay tithes.
21. When you can pay in American dollars you shall also be rewarded with the minting machines of Bank of America delivered to your door steps.

BROS, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM OF YOURSELF....
WHY NOT LEAVE ALL THESE TALK BY PERSONALLY LOOKING OUT FOR A PLACE THAT FEEDS U WITH THE WORD, A PLACE THAT TELLS YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GOD AND HIS WORD, A PLACE THAT PREACHES AND PRACTICES HOLINESS, A PLACE THAT PRICKS YOU TO REPENTANCE.... PAY YOUR TITHE DER..... there are fraudsters everywhere I. The Name of Church... but There are also placed Where The True Gospel is preached...
It's your Choice bro....
Every thing , I mean Everything you own was Given to you by GOD. It's a gift...Including your life..
We are made for HIS pleasure.
Search For Where that GOD is . And Pay your Tithe There....
Am a CHOSEN, And I pay My Tithe in The Lords Chosen Charismatic Revival Movement

mikejj:
and what part of the bible says when you pay your tithe you are giving it to pastors sir?

maybe the god that u serve chops food or money. The Almighty whose name is Jehovah does not chop food or money. The problem with many of u is that u don't read the Bible and this is so sad. Tithe arrangement was for feeding of the levitea who were supposed to be permanent workers in the temple, the poor , widows, orphans etc. Pls read about tithing Deut 14. Take a moment to study the scriptures about the subject matter.there's so much passages in the bible that talks about the tithe arrangement, Exodus 23, Leviticus 25. Pls take time to read. And when u r satisfied u can read about the new covenant in Hebrews 6,7,8. Pls u sound too normal to be fooled by anybody.. Tithe arrangement was for the workers in the vineyard who were mandated not to work in the circular world or have investments. Google Dr Abel Damina "demystifying the tithe" and watch d video pls. Enough of this fraud in christendom

mikejj:
and what part of the bible says when you pay your tithe you are giving it to pastors sir?

maybe the god that u serve chops food or money. The Almighty whose name is Jehovah does not chop food or money. The problem with many of u is that u don't read the Bible and this is so sad. Tithe arrangement was for feeding of the levitea who were supposed to be permanent workers in the temple, the poor , widows, orphans etc. Pls read about tithing Deut 14. Take a moment to study the scriptures about the subject matter.there's so much passages in the bible that about the tithe arrangement, Exodus 23, Leviticus 25. Pls take time to read. And when u r satisfied u can read about the new covenant in Hebrews 6,7,8. Pls u sound too normal to be fooled by anybody.. Tithe arrangement was for the workers in the vineyard who were mandated not to work in the circular world or have investments. Google Dr Abel Damina "demystifying the tithe" and watch d video pls. Enough of this fraud in christendom

ericsmith:


wow !! indoctrinated ..... as long as those doctrines are very much in line with the bible ...bro i wanna remain a zombie . Keep ur money !!
ignorance ke ,,nah !! bro am aware my pastor is living big,,blessed nd has a private jet...
what dignity is left in a man who spends thousands of naira in bars nd cum to nairaland to argue stop paying tithe.. i no holy,,i ova social,,guilty of many things but in my worldliness i knw the "TRUTH"

I am sure u either don't have a bible or u can't read.

[quote author=oruma19 post=62302238]maybe the god that u serve chops food or money. The Almighty whose name is Jehovah does not chop food or money. The problem with many of u is that u don't read the Bible and this is so sad. Tithe arrangement was for feeding of the levitea who were supposed to be permanent workers in the temple, the poor , widows, orphans etc. Pls read about tithing Deut 14. Take a moment to study the scriptures about the subject matter.there's so much passages in the bible that talks about the tithe arrangement, Exodus 23, Leviticus 25. Pls take time to read. And when u r satisfied u can read about the new covenant in Hebrews 6,7,8. Pls u sound too normal to be fooled by anybody.. Tithe arrangement was for the workers in the vineyard who were mandated not to work in the circular world or have investments. you said it,pay ur tithe so that the will meat in my house.you dont giv tithe to pastors.give to ceasar what belongs ceasar to God what belongs to God.thank you.

Malachi 3;8-11 wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the priests which you are not. Read Malachi chapter 1, 2 and 3 to get the complete message if truly you want knowledge.

Paul said " study yourself approve", please do this studying, that's how you know the truth.
Lastly, Christians aren't expected to pay tithe, Jesus didn't, nor did any of the disciples/early Christians.

Be a Christian and not a judist (they have also stopped paying tithe after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem).

mikejj:
malachi 3 vs 8-11 answers you bro.give to cesar what belongs to cesar and God what belongs to God.tithe belongs to God.

oruma19:
maybe the god that u serve chops food or money. The Almighty whose name is Jehovah does not chop food or money. The problem with many of u is that u don't read the Bible and this is so sad. Tithe arrangement was for feeding of the levitea who were supposed to be permanent workers in the temple, the poor , widows, orphans etc. Pls read about tithing Deut 14. Take a moment to study the scriptures about the subject matter.there's so much passages in the bible that about the tithe arrangement, Exodus 23, Leviticus 25. Pls take time to read. And when u r satisfied u can read about the new covenant in Hebrews 6,7,8. Pls u sound too normal to be fooled by anybody.. Tithe arrangement was for the workers in the vineyard who were mandated not to work in the circular world or have investments. Google Dr Abel Damina "demystifying the tithe" and watch d video pls. Enough of this fraud in christendom

what did timothy say sir 2 tim 3vs15.dont let anyone pollute your heart.

mikejj:
what did timothy say sir 2 tim 3vs15.dont let anyone pollute your heart.

bro pls folo ur heart. God bless u

somehow:
Malachi 3;8-11 wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the priests which you are not. Read Malachi chapter 1, 2 and 3 to get the complete message if truly you want knowledge.

Paul said " study yourself approve", please do this studying, that's how you know the truth.
Lastly, Christians aren't expected to pay tithe, Jesus didn't, nor did any of the disciples/early Christians.

Be a Christian and not a judist (they have also stopped paying tithe after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem).

have you ever wondered why after all the whole bible the last chapter talks about tithing?have thought of that.you said they stop paying tithe when the temple was destroyed.which priests was God refering to here sir?

oruma19:
bro pls folo ur heart. God bless u

may holyspirit give us the understanding

Why not just read first? We have bible on the internet incase you don't have one at home.

Read first, then form your opinion from what the full chapters said and not just be quoting malachi 3:10. (BTW there are main bible chapters that highlighted tithe, types, who to pay, when to pay and what to be paid. There are others showing that tithe isn't meant for Christians but read the ones I gave you first.

mikejj:
have you ever wondered why after all the whole bible the last chapter talks about tithing?have thought of that.you said they stop paying tithe when the temple was destroyed.which priests was God refering to here sir?

WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER AS A CHURCH
In the Bible, the word the christian church is a translation of the Greek word ekklesia, which means “a calling.” It never refers to a building or meeting place, but always to people, to the “calls” of the world society by God. calling them to His service.

The Christian Church of the Bible is not a cold and stone building, but a group of warm and loving people specially chosen by God.

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oruma19:
I am sure u either don't have a bible or u can't read.

use ur tithe money buy me bible ....plsssss !!!

PastorAIO:


You seem confused. You said that you could counter Freeze and Freeze was talking about the seasonal practice of tithing as laid out in Deuteronomy, the abuse of which led to admonishment of the priests in the book of Malachi.

Please what has Hebrew 7,2 got to do with that. Abram went war, was victorious, presented a tenth of the spoils of war to Melchizedek, Melchizedek brought out wine and bread, and they all ate together.

And when Abram decided to return the spoils of war to the original owners he couldn't return the full amount. Why? Because a tithe of it had been eaten.

genesis 14:

24I will take nothing but what the young men have eaten, and the share of the men who went with me. Let Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre take their share.”

i'm driving at a point.. and the point is that the tithe in deuteronomy is different from other tithes stated in the bible

sirBLUNT:
freeze did exactly dat y cant ur pain asses do thesame? #freethesheeple

that's exactly what i'm doing dummy #useyourbrain

miredia:
For the sake of specificity and the blotting of erroneous doctrines, will you be kind to extend your read to verse 5 of the same book and chapter you quoted. Mull over it thoroughly.

and may i tell you that pastors are levites by faith and duty

miredia:
For the sake of specificity and the blotting of erroneous doctrines, will you be kind to extend your read to verse 5 of the same book and chapter you quoted. Mull over it thoroughly.

besides do you know levites in the bible pay tithes, now who do they pay it to?

Diamondville:
that's exactly what i'm doing dummy #useyourbrain

you miserable ignoramus pls swerve and dnt eva mention me again, i dnt hav time 4 frivolities..

sirBLUNT:
you miserable ignoramus pls swerve and dnt eva mention me again, i dnt hav time 4 frivolities..

you frustrated slowpoke, stop whining like a kid and also don't mention me again though i love bashing silly people like you

sacluxisback:


If your daddy GO could not counter him, how much you? Are you more knowledgeable or wiser than them?

i'm a baptist, we don't have G.Os.. and knowledge in the word of God is not about rank