tbaba1234:


I think, shehu and Aina are expected to provide width and also defend.. The three man backline and 2 DM is supposed to give them more freedom with some cover.

Anyway, let us see how they set up first.

tbaba1234:


Looks like an attempt to crowd the middle as well. It will be interesting to see how the wing backs work.. They are critical to a formation like this because they are expected to attack and defend.

Nice experiment if true.

Mujtahida:

Make Rohr call dem. I don tire for the talk. Let's discuss something else that is more proximate. Meanwhile analyse that possible line up and tactical formation. You say Rohr no always like to use one formation. Him want do Conte. What's your take?

goldfish80:
I see alot of comments giving Morocco the thumbs up for qualifying with with the Dutch, Belgian and French D team. Why use Morocco as example?
Why not use Egypt who played up to the AFCON finals and qualified for the World Cup in grand style with a team of home grown players.

Algeria went all foreign and qualified for the World Cup in 2014 and even.made the last 16, what have become of the Algerian team of foreigners 4 years on?
They can't even beat (no disrespect) Zimbabwe, nearly lost 6 world cup qualifying games in a stretch. They will be forced to do what they failed to do 4years ago.
This one don pass replacing coaches at will. They need a full system reset!

Inviting foreign born is not wrong, but basing the foundation of your national team on players like this is all shades of wrong and not a sustainable development in the long run.
If you like argue blindly, but I've made my position very clear on this matter that even a 10year old will understand.

Mickael2:



I am quite sure that Martins and Uche are among our top5 scorers and their scoring ratios are way better than Ighalo's. These are proven guys, say what you want but it won't change the fact that Uche was the highest goalscorer during our qualifying campaign in 2010 neither will it change the fact that Martins is our 3rd highest scorer with a better ratio than Yakubu who is the second I believe.

Mickael2:



if he starts with that 3-4-3 formation it might get embarrasing for us.

Let me start from the back, our GKs are not confident, a 3man backline requires an active GK but this is the least of our problems.

In the defence you have Awaziem listed as the RCB and Balogun in the LCB spot. I already pointed out that using inverted wingers is a risky biz, you could see that some clearances Aina made in the last match were less than perfect because he was using his weaker foot just like I predicted, now you are playing Awaziem and Balogun, two right-footed CBs, in the LCB and RCB, they will find it hard to make proper clearances(Awaziem most especially) and when you consider the wingers they are about to face......


That brings us to the fullbacks. Aina I am okay with but playing him the LWB formation is wrong, he is going to have a performance similar to the one he had against Algeria, you can see he is quality but he will still struggle. For us to effectively utilise Aina in that left side we need to reach out to his clubside and convince them to play him there a little more often. Then we come to the guy who would lose the most in this formation, Shehu. There is a reason why Azpilicueta does not play the WB role and when he does he is always below average. Shehu is NOT GOOD offensively and his take-on rate is very very poor, crosses too are very very poor(I doubt if he has had one succesful cross throughout the qualifers bar that cutback for Iwobi) and he also does not have the pace. Argentina will have Dybala running across our backline looking for spaces to exploit and Shehu's lack of pace will expose that space perfectly then you may argue that our DMF will cover and that brings us to the midfield....

Ndidi is not an out-and-out DMF so he can not do the work that will be assigned to him which is covering the fullbacks effectively for 90minutes and then we have Ogu who isn't exactly fast. Bear in mind that their CF is Belotti so our central CB will have his hands full so in most cases Ogu will have to fall back and help out thus making room infront of the defence for Banega and the likes to exploit.

tbaba1234:
Reports from ANS and OGN suggest that Rohr might experiment with 3 at the back in a 3-4-2-1 formation.. Shehu and Aina are tipped to play as wing backs.

..............Akpeyi

Awaziem Balogun Ekong

Shehu Ogu Ndidi Aina

.........Mikel Iwobi

.............Kelechi

goldfish80:
I see alot of comments giving Morocco the thumbs up for qualifying with with the Dutch, Belgian and French D team. Why use Morocco as example?
Why not use Egypt who played up to the AFCON finals and qualified for the World Cup in grand style with a team of home grown players.

Algeria went all foreign and qualified for the World Cup in 2014 and even.made the last 16, what have become of the Algerian team of foreigners 4 years on?
They can't even beat (no disrespect) Zimbabwe, nearly lost 6 world cup qualifying games in a stretch. They will be forced to do what they failed to do 4years ago.
This one don pass replacing coaches at will. They need a full system reset!

Inviting foreign born is not wrong, but basing the foundation of your national team on players like this is all shades of wrong and not a sustainable development in the long run.
If you like argue blindly, but I've made my position very clear on this matter that even a 10year old will understand.

Mujtahida:

Maurice Iwu, welcome to our thread.

MetalJigsaw:
This is not the right game to test the 3-4-3 formation. Its too risky as most of the players will be playing a strange role against a superior Argentine team.
What Rohr should be after in this game is to discover more cohesion and the depth of his bench.

Mujtahida:

The only two countries I am happy would not be at the mundial are Cameroun and Algeria. I will miss the others.

tbaba1234:
No Italy, No Netherlands, No Chile, No USA No Cameroon No Ivory Coast No Algeria

EmmGee:

i will really really want to see this line up.

Mikel and iwobi as amfs. Damnnnnn. Soo much creativity. And i think this will be perfect for nacho as he would have alot of chances. This is where he would prove himself

Joebie:
it's a non competitive match, and not a must win.
You can try whatever you want in friendlies. If they come good, then great!!
If we lose, then great! There will be more lessons to be learnt. The earlier we learn our lessons the better.

MetalJigsaw:
Why?

Mujtahida:
Why what?

goldfish80:

Shehu and Aina are full backs not wing backs. Dont expect that much width coming from both players.
We need Victor Moses and maybe Sone Aluko (I think he could make a decent wing back) to pull this off.
Shehu and Aina are not skillful enough to fly past 2 markers (wing backs must possess this quality)

cc Mujtahida

Joebie:
Your position is well understood. Doesn't still make it logical.
Whether you choose to base the foundation of a team with foreign-groomed, home based, foreign based etc it wouldn't kill a generation of players. Remove sentiments, and pick the best irrespective of where they are based or groomed. Stop the tagging/prejudice.

goldfish80:

I regret engaging you on this topic. I should have stopped the moment you said I will grow grey hair looking for talented football players in Nigeria.

On a second thought, it was good I continued. Otherwise ignorance would have reigned supreme on the thread.

goldfish80:
I see alot of comments giving Morocco the thumbs up for qualifying with with the Dutch, Belgian and French D team. Why use Morocco as example?
Why not use Egypt who played up to the AFCON finals and qualified for the World Cup in grand style with a team of home grown players.

Algeria went all foreign and qualified for the World Cup in 2014 and even.made the last 16, what have become of the Algerian team of foreigners 4 years on?
They can't even beat (no disrespect) Zimbabwe, nearly lost 6 world cup qualifying games in a stretch. They will be forced to do what they failed to do 4years ago.
This one don pass replacing coaches at will. They need a full system reset!

Inviting foreign born is not wrong, but basing the foundation of your national team on players like these is all shades of wrong and not a sustainable development in the long run.
If you like argue blindly, but I've made my position so clear on this matter that even a 10year old will understand.

Joebie:
it's a non competitive match, and not a must win.
You can try whatever you want in friendlies. If they come good, then great!!
If we lose, then great! There will be more lessons to be learnt. The earlier we learn our lessons the better.

MetalJigsaw:
Why you won't miss the absent teams.

Joebie:
you will grow gray hair finding them from your home..or can you name talents from the streets in Nigeria from where you are right now? I can sit here and research on my computer and dig out names in Europe.
See how you tell lies after I cleared you on that. I still havn't learned anything from you till date. I've learned from so many here. it's unfortunate.

You who said we should leave the problem to our grandchildren. you are just like our leaders before now. Let's keep pushing the problem because we are bereft of ideas.

Mujtahida:

He has a point though regarding the timing. We might be trying a highly workable formation at the wrong time because the personel to give bite to this formation are not there eg Moses.

goldfish80:


Leaving the problem to our great grand kids was a chided remark to your idea of setting up shop to get all the European born Nigerian football players to commit to the Super Eagles.

Keep waiting for fourfourtwo magazine to dig out talented footballers walking the streets of Nigeria for your googling pleasure.

Mujtahida:

Granted you are not against foreign born players neither am I against home based players. The sole criteria is quality irrespective of where you are born. That being said, I however do not understand how basing the foundation of our national team (I'm not saying this should be done but for argument sake let's examine the point) on FB players stops us from developing our league. The way I see it is this: having a good look impacts on our national team but having a national team dominated by fb does not have effect on our home league and this point I made in an exhaustive post last time.