[quote author=TWoods post=62653088]

There is no discount anywhere. That "discount" either gets charged back to the government or to the rest of us who see our health insurance premiums go up by an average of 30% every single year, while you get to go home and pay nothing. As i have always said, if you cannot afford having a baby in the United States, please stay back in Nigeria.

She should negotiate a payment plan and pay every


I noticed you are very "touchy" about people that have payment issues. You can pass your message across without your humble brag of paying premium and taxes. We get it! You have said it a million times and everything is not about you. Pass on your message without being passive aggressive

Good evening every1.
I went 4 interview alone 2wks ago & was denial. Which av pasted sometime ago & reasons b4 d blue Paper was " why birth in U.S why not South Africa or Dubai which is my travel history". Gave d V.O normal regular answer but guess d V.O wanted 2 hear d magic word.
Fast forward, I apply 4 emergency appointment with hubby & was denial but I applied again same day with more documents uploaded & was approved d next day, i scheduled appointment 4 d next available date 4 d interview which was yesterday morning.
END OF PART ONE, PART TWO COMING SOON.

ladeonas:


really that would be awesome. i would try that

TWoods:


There is no law against carrying food on a flight. I don't think you can bring food from home and it will be allowed through security. You can buy food after security and board your flight though. That's the difference.

I may not be sure about the jollof rice but I am sure you ll be allowed to Carry snacks such as Doughnut, sausage, � bread, meat pie etc. I know this cos I often carry them through security into the ✈ airplane with no stress

TWoods:


There is no law against carrying food on a flight. I don't think you can bring food from home and it will be allowed through security. You can buy food after security and board your flight though. That's the difference.

I say again, there's no law against carrying food. What you think or don't think isn't the law.

sugah:


I say again, there's no law against carrying food. What you think or don't think isn't the law.

The very first line in my post you quoted said this - “there is no law against carrying food on a flight”. The very next sentence started with “I think”. It is beyond me how you deduced that what I think is law. Reading is quite important.

[quote author=Petdaughter post=62656760][/quote]

I’m sorry that you find my post about paying premiums a “humble brag”. Paying taxes and premiums is what everyone does - it's the law, nothing special about it. The problem is when people think they can play smart... lying at visa interviews that they can cover all their birth expenses, then pop up here asking for ways to bend the law to their advantage. You would be touchy too if you paid for something that others feel entitled to use for free... while “humbling bragging” about it here all day. It’s funny how we all get our hackles up until we are the ones on the receiving end.

Beautyaddy:


Looooool!!

I think people are confusing the US healthcare system with Canada/Europe. The US does not have free healthcare like Canada and Europe. One pays every penny for every treatment ones get be it a child or adult. Additionally, medicaid is only for US resident tax payers with very low-incomes and some US resident tax payers with long-term disability whose medical insurance might not cover.

I don’t think it’s an issue of confusion. I think it’s the Nigerian mindset. Everyone wants to get something for free when they have not earned it. The Medicaid question wasn’t about the morality of accepting it, it was solely about how it would impact future visa applications. If VOs never asked, a full 100% of the sanctimonious folks here would absolutely have no problems having their babies for free, and “humbling bragging” about how badass they are - or how "god" must have "favored" them. It’s who we are. I’m nigerian, been there too.

jamjam5000:


Hello Unfelt,

I had my baby last year in Florida, tampa precisely. If you are going to be around Tampa area. I can give you the costs and everything.

Hello. I sent you a a PM. Kindly respond.

customised87:





I may not be sure about the jollof rice but I am sure you ll be allowed to Carry snacks such as Doughnut, sausage, � bread, meat pie etc. I know this cos I often carry them through security into the ✈ airplane with no stress

[quote author=TWoods post=62653333]

There is no law against carrying food on a flight. I don't think you can bring food from home and it will be allowed through security. You can buy food after security and board your flight though. That's the difference.

Exactly, snacks wasn't an issue at all as we were allowed to pass with our Gala. Infact, i was beginning to think they took advantage of our status as first time travellers until I saw these two posts. Anyways, what do I know

[quote author=peace004 post=62656869]Good evening every1.
I went 4 interview alone 2wks ago & was denial. Which av pasted sometime ago & reasons b4 d blue Paper was " why birth in U.S why not South Africa or Dubai which is my travel history". Gave d V.O normal regular answer but guess d V.O wanted 2 hear d magic word.
Fast forward, I apply 4 emergency appointment with hubby & was denial but I applied again same day with more documents uploaded & was approved d next day, i scheduled appointment 4 d next available date 4 d interview which was yesterday morning.
END OF PART ONE, PART TWO COMING SOON. [/quote

Waiting for the good news

There is no law against food

TWoods:



The very first line in my post you quoted said this - “there is no law against carrying food on a flight”. The very next sentence started with “I think”. It is beyond me how you deduced that what I think is law. Reading is quite important.

I think you are struggling with comprehenshion.
Save your argument for who is interested in arguing with you.

TWoods:


There is no discount anywhere. That "discount" either gets charged back to the government or to the rest of us who see our health insurance premiums go up by an average of 30% every single year, while you get to go home and pay nothing. As i have always said, if you cannot afford having a baby in the United States, please stay back in Nigeria.

She should negotiate a payment plan and pay every cent.

I agree with @TWoods 100% on this discount topic and on our attitude as Nigerians (except the favour comment sha......after all favour is mercy to the undeserving...but enough preaching)

But seriously........we need to take a good look at ourselves.....Even after it has become standard for those of us on this thread to say the truth about our intentions at visa interviews.....i notice we still lie about other things..
e.g. "claiming out next salary by faith" when we are asked for our current income....or telling the fit to fly airport staff that we are 32 weeks, when indeed we are 35 weeks.... so on and so forth.

We cannot blame our leaders for what Nigeria has become....we are all responsible....every short cut....every lie......every premium we agree to pay over the official price of passport etc....things we would never dare to do the the US or abroad in general because of the repercussions.

It can be very frustrating, difficult and time consuming to do the right thing in Nigeria but it is do-able...for example my family have decided not to bribe anybody.....so we filll our passport form online and pay online and it takes us weeks...sometimes over a month to get it out .....instead of days when you "tip" an official but at least we have achieved what we set out to achieve.

Nigeria CAN be great but it all depends on you and me.

This "discount" is also maybe why some visa renewals are getting difficult....some hospitals for whatever reason pass on the "discount" they are giving us to the govt and tax payers...they choose to assume that we are from out-of-state and not out-of-country!........it may be human nature to try and get things cheap or for free where possible but when we become aware that someone else is paying for it...is it really free? Is it really a discount? The end doesn't justify the means. If your child gets a US passport and the foundation is your wrong doing.....might that action not affect them in the future one way or the other...planting and harvest.

Promotion and a secure future comes not from blue passport but from God...i believe that if I do the right thing my children will be great...with either blue or green passport....

Food for thought sorry about the sermon!

sugah:

I think you are struggling with comprehenshion.
Save your argument for who is interested in arguing with you.

Stop arguing with him, he won’t listen. Food is definitely allowed. My then bf (now husband) and I have taken Jollof Rice and Suya past security at Houston George Bush International, twice. And we bought it outside the airport too. The only thing that’s not allowed is liquids.

mamaOO
You are assuming I'm remotely interested in wasting my time arguing with him.... that's an exercise in futility.

Liquid food like pap for kids would pass through security as well..they just need to run a test on it.

Dear Family,

My wife and I plan to deliver in the US early next year. I am completely new to this. Can anyone share a step-by-step guide along with recommendations? Even helpful links? Costs will be helpful as well. We have the visa already (Tourist). When should we travel? During the visa interview, we confessed about the pregnancy (very early stage then) and the VO said if we decide to give birth, we should try to pay all bills and he wrote that in our file.

Thanks in advance!

zizirecords:
Dear Family,

My wife and I plan to deliver in the US early next year. I am completely new to this. Can anyone share a step-by-step guide along with recommendations? Even helpful links? Costs will be helpful as well. We have the visa already (Tourist). When should we travel? During the visa interview, we confessed about the pregnancy (very early stage then) and the VO said if we decide to give birth, we should try to pay all bills and he wrote that in our file. I

Thanks in advance!

My brother, get a pen and pad and read from page 1 of the thread. This is a DIY forum and you'll benefit from the research greatly! All questions that you envisage have been asked and answered already. Just open your mind like a sponge and soak it all in. Be careful as well as there are against(sharks) also on the page who are ready to take advantage which is why the advice to read extensively is poignant. Good luck

Thank you everyone for your contributions, advice, scalding ...... Medicaid or even payment plan was never in our plans and its still not. making an inquiry, i think i have gotten the answers i wanted but not without some bashing its ok.. We planed for VB but it turned out we had to do CS. The hospital billed us $14,000 which is a little above budget. We are only asking for discount before they suggested MEDICAID which we are not considering. Thanks for all your support.

I have been recommending this thread for friends, you guys rock! thanks for all the help here.

Hey,

Where exactly do you intend to give birth? If you have a particular state in mind then you have to google it .. send them a mail and also wait for their reply.. i did the same, and got lots of replies. Its simple and not a big deal. Send as much mail requesting for cost of delivery... then you can weigh your options. Im due in April and im leaving 2nd week of March. Ive gotten a hospital, im just waiting on March so i can leave.









quote author=zizirecords post=62670283]Dear Family,

My wife and I plan to deliver in the US early next year. I am completely new to this. Can anyone share a step-by-step guide along with recommendations? Even helpful links? Costs will be helpful as well. We have the visa already (Tourist). When should we travel? During the visa interview, we confessed about the pregnancy (very early stage then) and the VO said if we decide to give birth, we should try to pay all bills and he wrote that in our file.

Thanks in advance![/quote]

I have been a silent reader on this forum and stumbled upon it when I started researching on hospitals and procedure for giving birth in America and I learnt a lot!
So I traveled with Qatar airways at 34 weeks and 4 days, I filled the medif form and sent to their office, which was later approved. I had an existing visa which I had previously used for the reason for issuing it and for vacation so I wrote to the embassy several times and got an email responding to my intent to use the Visa for birthing. I gathered my documents, cash and burden of proof for the trip.
My point of entry was ALMIGHTY HOUSTON. Considering stories and tales of Houston and Chicago. Poe I prayed, prepared and packaged all my documents and cash well and was wheeled to cbp
Cbp: hello
I greeted
Cbp : where are you coming from why are you here in the US today?
I came to rest and have my baby
Cbp: so you are pregnant?
Yes sir
Cbp: how much is it gonna cost you
Between 6500 and 7000 dollars
Any prepayments?
I said no, the doctor doesn't accept payments till the patient comes and he asks for correspondence.
Cbp: how much do you have on you?
I told him I had 8000 cash and I also have my bank cards for access to more funds
What do you do for a living and what does your husband do? I told him
Is this your first child?
I said no I have 3 and he was like where did you have them
I responded I had them in UK
So he went ahead to ask why not UK this time
I want to access my child the opportunities America may offer as a dual citizen and he was Ok remember to keep all your reciepts ND pay all your bills and always carry your receipts when traveling to and from the US
He stamped me In for 6 months and asked if I had food. And I said Yes, so he called Another officer to take me to Agriculture and the amebo officer started interrogation number 2 and asked the first one is she going to Secondary?? The cbp said no, she heading to agric she has food. She now started asking the officer to stamped me in Do you know she is here to give birth? Did you check her well? Etc I just prayed and told devil God pass you! I got to agric and nothing was seized. Was wheeled out to the exit. To to all those I privately sent messages and they responded, thank you
Waiting for my LO and praying for a healthy mother and baby and Labour like the Hebrew women
Will come back for my hospital price breakdown after LO has come

sugah:

I think you are struggling with comprehenshion.
Save your argument for who is interested in arguing with you.

We were never arguing in the first place... i made a comment, you decided to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Cheers

Hello family, pls what is burden of proof can someone kindly shed more light on this.
Thankx

Bisoye76:
Hello family, pls what is burden of proof can someone kindly shed more light on this.
Thankx

Burden of proof - the documents that support what you've written in your DS160 visa application and any other statements you will make to the VO at interview or to the CBP at the POE that should qualify you for a visa and entry into the US.

For example, I say I earn 200k a month...i should have my pay slips to show this.

I say I work for XYZ company....i should have a letter of introduction

I say I have contacted a doctor...i should have emails or letters to show this.

I say I have paid 50% of the hospital fee.... I should have my receipt.

I say I have booked AirBnB...i should have a print out of the confirmation.

Sometimes docs are not requested...sometimes they are....better to have them than not.

All the best!

[Thanks si much @mamaron God bless u real good.quote author=mamaron post=62682286]

Burden of proof - the documents that support what you've written in your DS160 visa application and any other statements you will make to the VO at interview or to the CBP at the POE that should qualify you for a visa and entry into the US.

For example, I say I earn 200k a month...i should have my pay slips to show this.

I say I work for XYZ company....i should have a letter of introduction

I say I have contacted a doctor...i should have emails or letters to show this.

I say I have paid 50% of the hospital fee.... I should have my receipt.

I say I have booked AirBnB...i should have a print out of the confirmation.

Sometimes docs are not requested...sometimes they are....better to have them than not.

All the best! [/quote]

Good evening every1
Part 2: second interview which was emergency time 6:30am on Wednesday.
Got to the embassy exactly 6:15am with Dh, went in den d it was a lady who did d finger print 4 me & my Dh & we where d first @ her own corner so dere was good communication cos she pleaded with smiles 4 my Dh to help adjust d finger print machine which he did adjust about 4 times b4 she was comfortable with it, my Dh did his finger print successfully but mine took a little bit longer cos my palm was sweating, Guess it was tension but finally done with it and went to line up 4 d interview.
Dey where about more Dan 15 ppl in front of us, I observe all where denial & when we got closer I saw only blue paper on d front of all d V.O hmm my tension increase ooh, God is @ work as me & my Dh was directed to d same V.O lady dat did our finger print...wow
She said
V.O: smiles & said U with Good morning
Dh & Dw: Good morning 2gather.
V.O: Ur passport pls
V.O: U guys ar married rite
(My passport still remain my dad's name)
Dw & Dh: yes 2gather
V.O: How long av u been married. Do u Av any children
Dw: A year plus & no we ar expecting our first soonest
V.O: when is ur due date
Dw: bla bla bla January 2018
V.O: wat do u do & u ever be employed b4
Dw: Home maker for now & no av never been employed
V.O: and u to Dh
Dh: I run my own company, deal on bla bla bla & apart from dat I ...!!!
V.O: interrupted & ask Dh to elaborate more on wat it means about wat d company does
Dh: explain with more light on it & explain in a simple way 4 her to understand
V.O: okay continues u where saying sometin b4 I interrupted u
Dh: I also own bla bla bla apart from my company
V.O: how many staffs u av
Dh: 16 staffs
V.O: where is ur other investment located
Dh: Benin city @ bla bla bla street
V.O: what's ur total budget for d trip
Dh & Dw: 2gather "$23k 350"
V.O: Can I c ur bank statement
Dw: Gave her my Dh personal statement & also joint account with me & Dh
V.O: she went through my Dh account statement & also d joint account statement, she ask us how do we intend to get Dollars?
Dh: we can get through our bank & it will b easy cos wify is leaving by December & me by January toward the due date so we can split d funds into 2 parts.
V.O: she went through Dh personal statement again for about sometimes, Wats dis company transaction for.?
Dh: payment on personal contract I did with bla bla bla.
V.O: How long ar u staying
Dw: 10wks
Dh: 3wks plus
V.O: brought d white paper from under of no where cos it was only blue paper in front of her & said u Av been approve, make sure u carry all ur body proof bla bla bla.
D funny part of it she gave us d white paper & 2gather with our both passport.
Dh: ask where do u want us to drop d passport..?
V.O: she na smiled & said sorry give me back d passport...!!
We where d first dey gave white paper after all other V.O's Daniel more dan 15 ppl b4 us.,
Imagine oooh very funny..lol lol lol Jajajaja hmm..it was God's grace here & I give glory to almighty God.

Instead of you to answer with no bashing which doesn't cost you anything.someone like me don't even know what Medicaid is if not for this forum.most people innocently ask this question just to be more enlightened,informed and aware.the hospital people sound so convincing that you almost tempted to give in,so coming on a forum like this to get help shouldn't be an issue and stop generalizing Nigerians.its a good thing you are fortunate to be an American not everyone is interested in being one tho..easy Mr easy!

TWoods:


There is no discount anywhere. That "discount" either gets charged back to the government or to the rest of us who see our health insurance premiums go up by an average of 30% every single year, while you get to go home and pay nothing. As i have always said, if you cannot afford having a baby in the United States, please stay back in Nigeria.

She should negotiate a payment plan and pay every cent.

Sparkle1515:
Instead of you to answer with no bashing which doesn't cost you anything.someone like me don't even know what Medicaid is if not for this forum.most people innocently ask this question just to be more enlightened,informed and aware.the hospital people sound so convincing that you almost tempted to give in,so coming on a forum like this to get help shouldn't be an issue and stop generalizing Nigerians.its a good thing you are fortunate to be an American not everyone is interested in being one tho..easy Mr easy!

What matters is what you told the VO, that you will be responsible for 100% of your birthing costs. Anything else is an excuse. Of course the hospitals want you to get Medicaid. It’s easier for them to simply bill the government, with 100% guarantee that they will get their money, than rely on a promise that you will adhere to whatever payment plan they give you.

TWoods:


What matters is what you told the VO, that you will be responsible for 100% of your birthing costs. Anything else is an excuse. Of course the hospitals want you to get Medicaid. It’s easier for them to simply bill the government, with 100% guarantee that they will get their money, than rely on a promise that you will adhere to whatever payment plan they give you.

You are still missing the point. We get the message you are preaching, your tone is just what is insultive. Just take corrections about the tone of your messages, everyone can't be wrong. You come across as very argumentative and incorrigible, pls do better

TKM Jnr turned d big 1 two weeks ago. Praise God!!
Special shout out to my NL mommas & papas, all NJ crew & Dr Fares fans
Na work make me scarce like dis. Happy celebrations & Merry Christmas! Love y'all.

Petdaughter:


You are still missing the point. We get the message you are preaching, your tone is just what is insultive. Just take corrections about the tone of your messages, everyone can't be wrong. You come across as very argumentative and incorrigible, pls do better

Respectfully I disagree. Nigerians find anything that does not kowtow to them as “insultive”. Even if they are doing something flagrantly wrong, you have to tell them on your knees lest they be “offended”.

TWoods:


Respectfully I disagree. Nigerians find anything that does not kowtow to them as “insultive”. Even if they are doing something flagrantly wrong, you have to tell them on your knees lest they be “offended”.

Stop generalizing! What's with this Nigerians this and Nigerians that! You do realize we are a nation of different tribes right? so why would you think all 186million+ of us think alike? You are not kowtowing to anybody, its basic human manners. Knowledge is freely shared on this platform and everyone deserves to be treated with equal respect. If you don't like how "Nigerians" roll pls look away from this thread and face somewhere else. You are trying to act more American than Americans. Or are you a VO in disguise? Say who you really are and state why you are always so disgruntled about honest people trying to have their babies in America. I hope you realize that lots of dishonest people with bad intentions don't bother to read up this thread? Pls be polite to people here or look away. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing!