Sagamite:

Which 3 World Cups did Pele win?

Rotty32:
I disagree with you bro..... This guy has to play for another club so we can see more of his talent

chuckdee4:


The OP was talking about being the best and not being the happiest

free2ryhme:


What has being happy got to do with this

He earns millions

You that does not have work are you happy

Dey there to look for how happy or no happy when dem no complain give

Sagamite:


You make the arguments, you bring the evidence.








And then get educated and corrected!

KinzyeWriter:
This is it.

And that is why Ronaldo who won everything in England before moving to Real Madrid and Won Euro 2016 for his country will be better.

lamps4blues:
1958,1962 and 1970

KinzyeWriter:
Trashy topics you say... When proved Pele's point?

Victornezzar:
Goal.com with their trashy topics
u can compare him to Maradona and pele but u can't compare Ronaldo to both

Messi is a genius

The matter wey u dodge that day don come haunt you


Ronaldo is the Greatest

Sagamite:


No, I don't know.

Tell me what WCs he won.

Sagamite:


You should have let him answer, mate.

It is him I want to educate.

ObaKlaz, is this what your Google is telling you?

ObaKlaz:
Maybe not the very greatest ever, but THE GREATEST OF HIS GENERATION, and he's surely up there with Pele and Maradona. The argument of him leaving Barcelona to "prove himself elsewhere" (especially in that mickey mouse league they call EPL) is just a weak effort by haters and critics to question his greatness. Asides winning the world cup, he has NOTHING! to prove to any disgruntled critic or hater.

His brilliance, wizardry and legacy remain untainted FOREVER.

KinzyeWriter:
Lol the only bragging right that is weightier than messi career goals 2x

3 world cup should be overlooked ?

When say technical, yes messi is technical and Pele claimed that, but that doesn't play a vital role in a footballer greatness, but with achievement in different Jersey whether at international level or club level... That is why maradona is better... That is why Ronaldo is better... Afterall

Pidginwhisper:
The matter wey u dodge that day don come haunt you


Ronaldo is the Greatest

KinzyeWriter:
Messi wants international trophy... Messi needs to explore other club except Barcelona as you read in the article.

Pele was hindered for not playing in Europe, but his strength is the 3 world cup he won even though he is not the all time goal scorer.

Maradona has the most tiny weakness, to have played in Europe and won trophies and also a world cup in his international level.


Ronaldo has proven himself in the EPL by winning everything, in sporting, in Madrid, and international level.


Messi on the other hand risen into greatness with great players, and failed bunch of times in the international level... Now he hinders himself for being a one club man..

He is just a Barcelona legend bro

Sagamite:


What moronic nonsensical arguments by the author.

Who are the other candidates that can lay claim to the title if not Messi?

What 1283 goals did Pele score? You mean the ones were he counted all his high school and community competitions?

What 3 World Cups did Pele win? Total Nonsense.

Sagamite:


Apart from Ronaldinho, Messi was/is the star of the team when he played with those players.

And he was not a star over Ronaldinho because he was too young then.

Henry left UK being the greatest player ever in the EPL, to be like the 4th best player in Barcelona.

Here is what Henry himself has to say about Messi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyIgPqOpMWY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GGMaz93kgs

ObaKlaz:
Maybe not the very greatest ever, but THE GREATEST OF HIS GENERATION, and he's surely up there with Pele and Maradona. The argument of him leaving Barcelona to "prove himself elsewhere" (especially in that mickey mouse league they call EPL) is just a weak effort by haters and critics to question his greatness. Asides winning the world cup, he has NOTHING! to prove to any disgruntled critic or hater.

His brilliance, wizardry and legacy remain untainted FOREVER.

1wolex85:


Thank you! the argument is so moronic. Pele was even injured in 2 of the 3 world cups! so he should stop carrying that world cup on his head.

1wolex85:


Johan Cruyff won nothing with the netherlands, is Ronaldo better than him?

Sagamite:
Messi vs Ronaldo

Ronaldo is the ultimate goalscorer. He scores spectacular goals and is able to score at critical times of the game to carry the team.

Messi is also the ultimate goalscorer. He scores beautiful and sensational goals and is also able to score at critical times of the game to carry the team.

Now beautiful goals are a notch above spectacular.

Not only that, Messi has a better goal rate (0.8 ) than Ronaldo (0.7) in their football lifetime.

Ronaldo has a marginal better goal rate (1.02) than Messi (1.00) since he moved to Spain. Just 1 goal by Messi, can swing it, so it is very marginal. More proportion of Ronaldo goals comes from Penalties than Messi, so that is another factor to consider.

Moreover, not only does Messi score better goals, he has far more assist (50%) than Ronaldo as he is also simultaneously a playmaker.

Messi regularly takes out 3 to 6 players in a game. Ronaldo struggles to get past one. If that one is a fast player, he has to pass.

Messi humiliates 3 players simultaneously week-in, week-out.

And some would say Ronaldo is faster. Well, yes, he is but marginally. I once saw the top speed stats and it was very close. Moreover, Ronaldo is faster without the ball, Messi is faster with the ball.

Ronaldo is a FANTASTIC GOALSCORER and can compete for greatest GOALSCORER of all time with Messi. Not best player.

ObaKlaz:
Dude, come forth with your points. What EXACTLY is your point?!

LordAdam16:


1958, 1962, and 1970 WCs.

I'm a CR7 fan, but I don't subscribe to the idea that Messi has to leave Barca to prove himself. Prove what exactly?

Moreover, the answer to the GOAT question is entirely subjective. No one would ever be objectively, unarguably considered the GOAT by everyone (or at least most people) at any time. The only objective statements that can be made relate to the greatest players to ever play the game.

And Messi is on that very, very short list. Along with Cruyff, CR7, R9, Pele, Ronaldinho, Garrincha, Heleno, Zizzinho, and Maradonna.

All of them have their shortfalls and strengths, which is why none of them is heads and shoulders over the rest. For example, at age 32, Pele was already off his stride. But at 32, CR7 was winning the La Liga, UCL back-to-back, and the Euros, contributing positively to the wins and is on track to scoring the most UCL goals in a calendar year by any player in history. That said, you can't take away Pele's 3 WC wins whether he was playing for a star-studded traditional heavyweight Brazil or not.

-Lord

1wolex85:


Johan Cruyff won nothing with the netherlands, is Ronaldo better than him?

1wolex85:


This is a very stupid argument. If Ronaldo started out at Real Madrid, he would never have left! Why should Messi leave Barca? The omly bigger club is Real Madrid and he cant go there!

obonujoker:


Your analysis eh... no wonder you support a clown like Buhari.... who made Henry EPL greatest player??

positivetaught:
messi is good but his success over time is due largely to the wonderful array of supportive talents around him,he really need to clear all doubts by trying other environments, if not out of hate you certainly can't describe the EPL as a mickey mouse league.