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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by hokafor(m): 9:27am On Dec 03, 2017
Oga Please I need the Lords phone number for verifications

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by orisa37: 9:29am On Dec 03, 2017
I believe him because he sees God often and he is always delivering Messages directly from God.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:30am On Dec 03, 2017
“It is a sin to pay or receive tithes” — Pastor Chris Ojigbani
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Omooba77: 9:31am On Dec 03, 2017
HeyCorleone:
What Christians need is personal conviction.

Only a sheep would do something because their G.O says it's right.

These people are fighting so hard. Things would never be the same again.

Thanks to minds like FRZ who've made things clearer to Nigerians.

But trust me a lot of them won't still adhere, like the poster above me.

This Open Heavens of today December 3, 2017 and was written at least a year before now.

OPEN HEAVENS DAILY DEVOTIONAL
DATE: SUNDAY 3RD DECEMBER 2017
THEME: TITHING IS TRUSTING

MEMORISE:
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Proverbs 3:5

READ: Proverbs 3:5-7
3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.

MESSAGE:
To experience exploits in your life, you must have a personal relationship with God. You must believe that He lives and love Him with all your heart. You must also learn to trust in Him. That command to pay tithes on your earnings simply places a demand on you to trust in God. Your response to this command shows the level of trust you have in Him. If you can pay your tithe correctly, it shows that you trust God for your livelihood, but if you find it difficult to be faithful in doing this, it simply shows that you trust more in your earnings than in God to sustain you. After I became newly born again and we were taught to pay tithes, I laughed and said in my mind, “These people do not know that I am a mathematician. If 100% is not enough for me, how can 90% be enough after I have paid 10% as tithes? Thank you very much! Even though these people are not educated, they still want to use their smartness to take 10% of my income from me. Let them try and take it”. However, down the line, God convinced me by Himself and I observed remarkable changes in my life.
In those days, I was a lecturer in the university. I had a car but was afraid to drive in Lagos, so I got a driver. At the end of the month, I would pay my driver his salary, but by the middle of the next month, I would have to borrow money from him to buy petrol (gasoline). This happened month after month. I continued to struggle with my finances and even had to spend all my earnings. However, when I started paying my tithes, I suddenly realised I did not need a driver anymore, because boldness came from nowhere and I could now drive myself. Also, I did not have to visit hospitals again because I now had the Great Physician as my doctor. My children did not fall sick again, and that leakage in my finances was blocked off. All of a sudden, doors of opportunities began to open to me because I trusted the Lord. Are you still struggling with tithing? If you are, it only shows that you do not trust God to take care of you. The truth is, whatever you are paid may never be sufficient to meet all your needs because you are limited to that source, whereas you are open to various devourers. In contrast, when you tithe, you will have access to resources beyond your income because God’s storehouse will be opened to you, and He will also block every source of losses in your life. It is a matter of choice. Why don’t you start trusting God from today by paying your tithes faithfully?

KEY POINT:
It is shocking to know that quite a number of God’s children cannot trust God with their finances.

BIBLE IN ONE YEAR:
Psalm 93-101
Nahum 3:5-19
AUTHOR: PASTOR E. A. ADEBOYE

HYMN 14: TAKE MY LIFE
1.Take my life and let it be
Consecrated, Lord, to Thee.
Take my moments and my days,
Let them flow in endless praise.

2.Take my hands and let them move
At the impulse of Thy love.
Take my feet and let them be
Swift and beautiful for Thee.

3.Take my voice and let me sing,
Always, only for my King.
Take my lips and let them be
Filled with messages from Thee.

4.Take my silver and my gold,
Not a mite would I withhold.
Take my intellect and use
Every pow’r as Thou shalt choose.

5.Take my will and make it Thine,
It shall be no longer mine.
Take my heart, it is Thine own,
It shall be Thy royal throne.

6.Take my love, my Lord, I pour
At Thy feet its treasure store.
Take myself and I will be
Ever, only, all for Thee.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by ped21: 9:31am On Dec 03, 2017
themonk:
God needs to convince me too.
I need to be sure youyou are not the one convincing yourself.

Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by engrsyer(m): 9:31am On Dec 03, 2017
HeyCorleone:
What Christians need is personal conviction.

Only a sheep would do something because their G.O says it's right.

These people are fighting so hard. Things would never be the same again.

Thanks to minds like FRZ who've made things clearer to Nigerians. My brother don't be deceived for God is not mocked.
Even God himself told me personally that I am owing him. I don't pay my tithe, that since I don't pay tithe the enemies do stole my money every month.

For that I begged Him and promise in my heart to start tithing from January and with all seriousness before all these tithings started in Nigeria. I now confirm that it is true from what Pastor Enoch Adeboye said that God told him.

Mind you I am not a fan to any pastor whether Adeboye, Oyedepo, MFM, David Ibiyeomie et al. I am on my own and only believe in God and the trinity.
It is left for you to accept it or leave the truth. But that is the only truth


But trust me a lot of them won't still adhere, like the poster above me.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Armorall: 9:32am On Dec 03, 2017
Tithing is to trust God. If I refused to pay Tithe, that means I have refused to trust God. So to Trust God, I will cease to be my brother's keeper and pay my Tithe to my Pastor, who will in the same spirit buy Private Jets as an easier means to take my money to God. I referred this to 18th century age of the Westerners. This means it will take Africa another 200 years to get to where Western world is Today.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by lonlytroy(m): 9:32am On Dec 03, 2017
Do you know how many Nigeria politicians have tithe their looted money to the church e.g obasanjo and co
Thinking God will spare them for their evil crime

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:33am On Dec 03, 2017
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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:33am On Dec 03, 2017
NuclearWinter:
Fake pastor.

If you were a true Christian as you claim, you will know the verse that states "no one comes to the father unless through me".

God does not speak directly to men since Jesus ascension.

There are no more prophets after Jesus and so whoever you spoke with is not th God of Bible but the same evil spirit that possessed Mohammed
The most stupid comment I had read so far undecided undecided
#NoApology!

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by bolinjkezzy(m): 9:33am On Dec 03, 2017
highrise07:
The church cannot survive without tithes and offerings , 99% of everything will do in life requires money. The only thing am concerned about is how the money is spent, there should be accountability , don't tell me that the money belongs to God, God is too rich to need my money. Pastors should spend the money on empowering and uplifting the poor and the downtrodden.
99% ke abi 99.9999999%

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by victorioushands: 9:33am On Dec 03, 2017
I do not know what T. B. Joshua said on tithe but, if he differs from others, then what he said is the right one. Some of the 'leading' pastors in Nigeria are already in a pit they don't know how to come out from and they will do anything to justify whatever took them them just so they can feel not so lost.

One man revealed what was done him in 4square and many think it's an isolated case but the truth is that it's happening in over 90 percent of today's churches. I have experienced it more than once and you need to be committed in every way to know these things do happen.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Lexusgs430: 9:34am On Dec 03, 2017
Tithe should simply be banned in churches..... Those willing to tithe, should simply pick a charitable organisation and fund them......

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by sgtponzihater1(m): 9:34am On Dec 03, 2017
MightySparrow:


Where was the houseof Melchizedek?

Melchizedek was King of Salem. Abraham knew how to get Him constantly if he wanted. Read ur Bible and don't buy the stories handed to you to hoodwink you to part with your money. Peace!

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by jrusky(m): 9:35am On Dec 03, 2017
Can some one tell Adeboye to just pls behave himself and keep all he has to say to himself for now. I respect him a lot but recently I'm so disappointed in this man called Adeboye it's so painful that he lost my respect.

Redeem as a church is one of the church that destroyed Christianity in Nigeria today because of their incessant money seeking and business like organization and no longer a church.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by otokx(m): 9:35am On Dec 03, 2017
Stop tithe in Nigeria and see 95% of business churches fold up.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:35am On Dec 03, 2017
Christians must begin to fight these criminals called Pastors using the Bible and the word of God.

Except Adeboye has decreed that he is the only person to meet God in the Sky, which is why he owns jets then we can understand, but if that God he is talking about is the same Orion 5D entities that seeded earth and engineered the evolution of the human species then Adeboye is a very stupid thief.

I know what God is, and they do not care about our coins. Only Adeboye and his minions continue to deceive the ignorant masses, no thanks to dilapidated educational system.

Tithing is a criminal Babylonian money recurring debt system which seeks to impoverish the un-awakened. The more you know, the more you see how the entire system is designed to impoverish the mentally compartmentalized.

For Ye Shall Know the Truth, and the truth shall set you free - Jesus, Founder of Christianity.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Augiiee(m): 9:36am On Dec 03, 2017
BeeBeeOoh:


http://dailypost.ng/2017/12/02/god-convinced-tithing-right-adeboye-speaks/
Make I keep my mouth shut before this brainwashed folks started raining abuse on me.
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by SweetJoystick(m): 9:36am On Dec 03, 2017
PointZerom:
If Freeze is serious by telling me to follow the footsteps of the biblical disciples, he should goan pay the dowry of that lady and stop parading her as his BABY MAMA.

The biblical Levites received tithe b'cos they worked in the temple, the present day workers in the church and the widows, orphans etc in the church will also be taken care of by the church through our tithes etc.


I WILL CONTINUE PAYING MY TITHE AND ALSO DOING MY CHARITY WORKS. You can spend your own money in a beer parlour with prostitutes, it's your money not mine.
You be levite? Or any of your pastors be levite? Do you know how many tribes are in Israel? Why would anyone claim to be of the only particular tribe that was permitted to receive tithe?

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by NuclearWinter: 9:36am On Dec 03, 2017
MidNightHunter:

The most stupid comment I had read so far undecided undecided
#NoApology!


Adeboye has a reserved and roped off VIP section waiting for him in hell.

You can follow him to hell

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 9:38am On Dec 03, 2017
Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye said this? Hmmmmm.....with each defence I get a bit more worried about Daddy G.O. He does not address the issue raised by Daddy Freeze and also does not quote bible verses to buttress his claims. Freeze or Daddy Freeze as he would like to be called raised certain verses he wanted our respected G.Os to clarify but they have been ranting and calling him names and using personal experiences to justify tithing.
#FreeTheSheeple does not say people should not pay tithe. It started out with the verse in Deuteronomy 14 which mentions the poor,the widowed,the Levite,the stranger in your house and you partaking in the tithe in contrast to Malachi 3:10 which speaks of a tenth to be brought into the house.
This distinction of who is a higher Christian and who is lower must stop! A G.O is not God,neither are those he leads God. We all have been made equal the moment we were saved by Jesus Christ. No one should lord his desires over his brethren.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by rottenegg: 9:38am On Dec 03, 2017
If you want to tithe go ahead, its not compulsory! I personally am tired of almost everything religious leaders say!
After all, you must eat from the work you do. undecided

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by sokunji(m): 9:38am On Dec 03, 2017
Na wa oh. How can open heaven written last year be a direct response to the present debate on tithe issues. Pastor Adeboye Is truly a man of God.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by femicyrus(m): 9:38am On Dec 03, 2017
NuclearWinter:
Fake pastor.

If you were a true Christian as you claim, you will know the verse that states "no one comes to the father unless through me".

God does not speak directly to men since Jesus ascension.

There are no more prophets after Jesus and so whoever you spoke with is not th God of Bible but the same evil spirit that possessed Mohammed
but why do you have to end such beautiful insight with Mohammed?

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by linearity: 9:39am On Dec 03, 2017
PointZerom:



There's express commandment of tithe in the Bible but you all claimed that it's for the Levites but One thing you forgot to know is that the duties of these biblical Levites in the temple that prompted the tithe are bn taken care of by some people in todays present church who are also being taken care of by the church through tithes etc.

So, why didn’t the disciples pay tithe to Jesus?

None of the disciples collected tithe.

If this practice was so heavenly, powerful and vital to Christians and holds those heavenly and over pouring blessings of God...why didn’t Jesus teach it to his disciples, and the disciples in all the epistles they wrote did not even mention it in the passing.

Don’t get me wrong, Christians are asked to givein the New Testament, it say, it must be willingly...if you start going to the Old Testament to pull the laws about tithing, it is no longer willingly...let’s call a spade, a spade.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by NuclearWinter: 9:40am On Dec 03, 2017
femicyrus:

but why do you have to end such beautiful insight with Mohammed?

Because all that claimed prophet hood after Jesus are sent by Satan

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by donbenie(m): 9:40am On Dec 03, 2017
PointZerom:
If Freeze is serious by telling me to follow the footsteps of the biblical disciples, he should goan pay the dowry of that lady and stop parading her as his BABY MAMA.

The biblical Levites received tithe b'cos they worked in the temple, the present day workers in the church and the widows, orphans etc in the church will also be taken care of by the church through our tithes etc.


I WILL CONTINUE PAYING MY TITHE AND ALSO DOING MY CHARITY WORKS. You can spend your own money in a beer parlour with prostitutes, it's your money not mine.
Wrong!!..this is what exactly is the issue with so called Christians in Nigeria..they pick and choose which part of the Bible bests suits them..
The Biblical Levites received tithe not just because they work in the temple,they receive Tithe BECAUSE TEMPLE WORK was ALL they were ALLOWED to do and because they had NO other SOURCES of income..
Since your Men Of God are trying so hard to be the Modern day Levites,how come they own Billions of Naira worth of PROPERTIES and MULTIPLE BUSINESSES unlike the Biblical Levites and still RANT about Tithe payments as if their very Lives depend on it..#FREETHESHEEPLE

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Omoluabi16(m): 9:41am On Dec 03, 2017
See how God works! The open heavens had been pre written at the beginning of 2017. It's beautiful how the open heavens for today talks about the raging topic of TITHE.I believe God is passing a message to the 'awa tithe' crew. Tithes and offering has never been compulsory, it is personal and based on your conviction. If you like don't, that's your cup of tea. Cry and moan all you want, people will still obey God's commandment of tithing. As for me, I choose to tithe. Happy thanksgiving people.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by VisioDirect: 9:41am On Dec 03, 2017
SUNDAY SERMON: THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHING


I came across this piece on a Whatsapp page and it so represented my views on tithing that I could have written it myself. Please enjoy the read!

The Trial of Pastor Jones (Author unknown)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn't tithe God would curse them.

How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor, I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.

Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis Chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that's what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn't he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that's what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.

Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people's possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you
Mr. Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization-church?
Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.

Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let's see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God's house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr. Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob's example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first. Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.

Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions -churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in Chap. 3, Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn't know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: Well your Honor that is because they didn't have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don't know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding. Once again you have tried to completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.

Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don't you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money from the people.

Judge: By "church" you mean your organization isn't it Mr Jones ?
-The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
- We are under a new covenant now.
Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart.
If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better.If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If 'your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all.
Mr Jones, do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11: For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ....
AND
Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....

Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong. I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it.
Yes ' am guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.
Sentencing....... All Arise .....

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:42am On Dec 03, 2017
This Adebayo can lie



It's unfortunate that even Yoruba Alfa's have started towing the line of the ultra thieving Christian pastors who ve been defrauding their steeple for ages.

With due respect to the yorubas, Yoruba pastors started this tradition of religious deceitfulness.

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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Livefreeordieha(m): 9:43am On Dec 03, 2017
UbanmeUdie:
shocked



My father! My father!!

Ride on sir!

Tithing dates far back before the Mosaic law. It is a covenant practice born out of revelation and insight into the deep things of God.

Father Abraham gave tithes.
Jacob gave his tithe.

And if we are Abraham's children and are now partakers of Abraham's blessings, then we must equally engage the deeds of Abraham (Hebrews 7).

Many are busy shouting, "we are now under grace, and not under the law, therefore the law should be done away with". Is this only regarding tithing?

I hope grace has now nullified the law that says thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit fornication, thou shall not lie, thou shall not worship any other god besides me, etc.

Many have become abusers of grace because they don't understand what grace is and what it has come to do.

Grace is the divine ability to do God's will without limitation where ordinarily, men would fail. Grace rides on the wheels of Mercy.

It is this mercy (divine pardon) that everyone enjoys today as a result of the blood that Jesus shed on Calvary. That is why, when many ought to have died instantly after committing a sin, they live on. Mercy suspends at outright almost instant consequence for sin and gives many chances for repentance.


The death of Jesus didn't abolish tithing because if it does, then it also abolished the sin of murder, idolatory and fornication.

His death only grants us divine pardon from the immediate consequences of sin.


I stand with Daddy G.O
ofcourse there's no difference between both of you ..You only speak sense once in a decade he once in every fortnight...

Apparently if we are to evaluate all your comments since u started to seek this attention like nwamaikpe...You only talk normal under this schemers...

Very evident that you are a deranged lone soul seeking redemption...Sadly you have fallen for the prosperity preaching ones...No salvation....Even the change u suppoz to buy your ogun weyrey with u carry am pay tithe.. Kontinu...Afterall u aren't alone....Even its a natural thing not all will be kings there has and there will always be slaves to serve the kings.. So serve on...The peculiarity with ur own is that u are a 2 in 1...Slave and dunce.

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