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Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 5:18pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
anaton:Hebrew7: 6-9 6 And those descendants of Levi who receive the priestly office have a commandment in the law to take tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, though these also are descended from Abraham. 7)But this man who does not have his descent from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 8 ) It is beyond dispute that the inferior is blessed by the superior. 9) In the one case tithes are received by mortal men, but in the other case, by one of whom it is testified that he lives. In Hebrews chapter 7:9, it was clearly stated that in one case, mortal men received tithes (the Levites), in the other case, by whom it is testified to live forever... Who is our High priest that lives forever? Jesus.... So if people pay tithes and the think they are paying to pastors, then that notion is very wrong... |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by obatoro: 5:20pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
sweetcocoa: Stop saying rubbish and keep shut, you have no place here, this thread is for Christians. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by anaton(m): 5:21pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: There is no place in the verses you quoted that we the children of grace should pay tithe |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by obatoro: 5:24pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
lebete3000: Yes, like Bill Gates, Dangote and co. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 5:28pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
anaton:I'm not forcing you to. But saying tithing is wrong and not biblical when Hebrew 7:9 states tithes (not levitical tithes now) is received by the one who is testified that he lives (Melchizedek) and that another priest (Heb7:11) is to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? (Jesus). Men..... I reserve my comments. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Nobody: 5:31pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
pavy:thanks for liking my submission. I appreciate. My dear, I totally disagree with wrong usage of my tithe. I want to see it being used for the right ressons. To leave judgement for God you say?... I hate seeing committed members out of school in the name of '' I can not afford cost education in their school''. Nowadays God's judgement doesn't come quickly. I want all to benefit from God's money before they die. When we reach heaven, we know the rest |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Judgesledge(m): 5:34pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
The law goes beyond the ten commandments, so many aspects of the mosaic laws given alongside tithing are ignored and tithing emphasized [author=Judgesledge post=62941601][/quote] |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Maximus85(m): 5:35pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
BeeBeeOoh: When you tell one lie, you need to tell more lies to cover up. 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 5:35pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
yemi1261:My dear, God is slow to anger, rich in mercy.... God's time is and will always be perfect. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Obi1kenobi(m): 5:36pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Offerings are generally free-will gifts. Tithing is mandated by churches through all kinds of coercive means devised to compel full compliance. They are also an unbiblical fraud and an alien custom from old Jewish traditions (the same Jews today who don't even pay tithes because there is no Levitical order) |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 5:39pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Continue to manipulate bible text. So how did that verse SUDDENLY say it is Jesus it was referring to while it's being talking about MELCHIZEDEK from the context? Is Jesus Christ same person as Melchizedek? 2 Likes |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Maximus85(m): 5:41pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
UbanmeUdie: You're just shouting sir. You are talking of the mosaic law. In those laws, how many are you keeping today? The principle of those laws is what Jesus gave us. Love God and your neighbors. Part of that law commanded the israelites not to harvest all their plants that some must be left for the poor. God was teaching them to always be ready to give. What we give to God today should be freely given from our hearts not by force. And what you give to God should be between you and him. If so, where does a tithe card comes in? Why are non tithers name posted on the notice board in churches? |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Geesaintagape: 5:43pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Adeboye swallow ur pride. God tells me dis n dat na only u get ear. 1st u didn't want to listen to freeze but God told u to listen. today again God has told u to to tell pple to pay tithe. u are a 419. if God would b telling u fis n dat y was d bible docodocumented 4 all to see n read 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 5:46pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:Hebrews 7: 9 KJV:If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? The High priest that is testified to live forever is Jesus. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by anaton(m): 5:47pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: I did not say that tithe is wrong.I only said that it's no longer applies to believers under the grace and love of Christ 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by fejikudz(m): 5:49pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
PointZerom:KPAKAM |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 5:50pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: You and your crew propagate same idea and I'm aware where all this manipulation coming from but I'm not going into that argument. Now, you and your crew being saying offering is money too right but just as tithe isn't money, same way offerings IN THE BIBLE IS NOT MONEY that are given in CHRISTIAN WORSHIP GATHERING but if you and your crew in disguise say offerings are money given in our worship gathering, do you agree to this scripture abolishing OFFERING too? King James Bible Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Holman Christian Standard Bible After He says above, You did not want or delight in sacrifices and offerings, whole burnt offerings and sin offerings (which are offered according to the law), Hebrews 10vs8 |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 5:54pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Jesus = HIGH Priest Melchizedek = Priest in that verse and context. How did a PRIEST became HIGH Priest in that verse who lives forever? |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 5:55pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:When did I say tithe was money?? |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 6:00pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Today's tithe in churches are money so if teaching tithe for Christians today you're teaching money tithe. But that aside you agitated for OFFERING too and that's why I quoted you and showing you if y'all saying offerings are what we give in worship today then you have to struggle with Hebrews 10vs8 and tell us what it means 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:01pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:Did you read the part that states that another priest should rise after the order of Melchizedek, who is not to be called the order of Aaron?? Who was being talked about there?? And I don't know why you are taking this thing personal saying me and my crew... Do you have anything against me?? Bros na wa o. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by donbenie(m): 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
MightySparrow:A supposed Man Of God telling you that the reason you've got to pay Tithe is because God told him so..bet to you that's a good enough reason.. So would you also Steal if he tells you God told him you should..because you know,his words are Gospel..#FREETHESHEEPLE |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:04pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:You didn't really get my point when I said offering... I was trying to say there was, when people give whatever they give to their local church, it's wrong to say they give it to pastor, be it tithe o, offering o, seed o etc... Why are they not questioning what they do with offerings?? Why only tithe??... I tithe but not because I was forced to. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 6:09pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Yes I read but that verses or chapter Hebrews 7 is NOT teaching tithe TO THE CHURCH bUT rather teaching the SUPERIORITY OF CHRIST PRIESTHOOD OVER THAT OF LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD but you tithe crew make a mess of the text and read into the text that Hebrews 7 is teaching tithe to believers. How did we know this, the summary says exactly so and because the whole teaching in Hebrew is going AWAY from old Jewish practice ONTO Christ. So how could the writer be inferring tithe when it actually is a Jewish practice |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:14pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:Please don't get me wrong... I know the bigger picture was to show clearly the superiority of Christ priesthood as opposed to the Levitical priesthood... But my sister analize brought to my attention the detail of tithe... Why was it mentioned there?? Why was it stated in both cases that tithe was collected... Why was TITHE mentioned?? And please stop this "you and your crew thing" you keep saying.... I'm not quarreling with you. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by mrvitalis(m): 6:19pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
cheezy4real: Smh What's the essence of Malachi 3:10? Read deutronomy 14:22-29 you would understand that better |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by JUBILEE2000: 6:20pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: Why did u stop at vs 9 of that scripture? Read the scripture up to vs 19 to understand the context of what the scripture was trying to address. Tithe in Christianity remains a fraud!!! 1 Like |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Goshen360(m): 6:20pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: You are the one that should understand my point. I get what you saying but I don't think you get what I saying. Lemme slow down for you. Tithe in the bible isn't money n today people like me question it and being challenging it for years. Offering too in the bible is not money. When we challenge tithe we also challenge offering because malachi says....in tithes and offerings. So what I'm saying is, in today's church which is of Christ, what when we worship God with our money, THAT'S NOT OFFERING because biblical OFFERING means something DIFFERENT. What we give in our worship gathering in Christ church is called CONTRIBUTIONS. But if you're saying people challenge tithe and why not offering because today's tithe is money that's y we're challenging it and same should go to offering too being money THEN we're going to have to contest with Hebrews 10vs8 because it canceled OFFERING too |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:24pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
JUBILEE2000:if that's what you believe then fine. |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:29pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Goshen360:If you call money you give to you local church contributions, I won't call mine that. You can give money, service, food items or whatever you wish to as the Spirit leads... |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Investnow2017: 6:30pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Jesusgirl92: The apostle Paul who also wrote the book of Hebrews says at Romans 10:4 that Christ is the END OF THE LAW. If you know the principles of tithing you would know why it was NEVER preached by the early apostles of Jesus Christ. When Christ spoke about tithing at Matthew 23, the Law was still in force, sadly many miss this point. The superiority of the new priesthood is so much and spiritual that it does not dwell on material or mundane things even such as money. If you understand what the apostle was discussing in the book of Hebrews you would know that the Christian gives not just tithe, one tenth, but ALL himself/herself to God, and this is done WILLINGLY not by subtle coersion. What is 10% when your heart is swelling in love for God for his wonderful gift of his dear son? Christians are not under any obligation to tithe as was done by Abraham or as required under the Law. DONT BE DECEIVED by those blinded by materialism who see God's blessings only in form of money, money and more money. . |
Re: God Himself Convinced Me Tithing Was Right - Pastor Adeboye by Jesusgirl92(f): 6:32pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Investnow2017:I don't pay tithe simply because I'm coerced to sir. |
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