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In a nutshell, you have the power to heal, correct?

salvation101:
u obviously didn't go tru Pete's video else u wouldn't be asking me dat questions. One of the first things he usually makes clear that he isn't superhuman and usually encourages ppl who believes to do d same things he does even on camera. Yep i av prayed for myself nd ppl and Jesus didn't disappoint me cos He has promised me in His word dat He is with me always. I was born into a pentecostal church but my parents were initially orthodox. My parents saw d light wen my grandpa was healed from stroke after the prayers of two pentecostal chaps who were going on door to door evangelism in d 1980s. That single event convinced the whole household and most of the children moved to d pentecostal church cos wen Jesus is lifted he draws men to himself

removetheturban:
In a nutshell, you have the power to heal, correct?

in a nut shell, Jesus has the power to heal while i av enough faith in his word

Personally. why do you think people doubt your works of healing?

salvation101:
in a nut shell, Jesus has the power to heal while i av enough faith in his word

removetheturban:
Personally. why do you think people doubt your works of healing?

ppl doubt wat dey don't understand. Without faith, you can't receive anything from God. U still av d wrong orientation about it as u still see it as the work of a man.

Once u don't believe in it, you av been automatically robbed by d devil cos it requires faith. Jesus usually said, "Be it unto you according to your faith".

Seeing that you made a reference to Reinhard Bonnke, do you worship with Christ embassy?

Since you do not have the power to heal, is there any human with such power?

Saying that Jesus has the power, we do agree. The Bible also says that this sort of power to heal (the gift) was GIVEN to some men. I am sure that you have read that in your Bible. Therefore, is there a man with such power as to heal (the gift) in the world today?

If you claim that people have been robbed by the devil for not accepting your works of healing, can you share the mortality rate among benefactors of your works of healing?

Is there any significance noted by any third party medical organisation on this?

salvation101:
ppl doubt wat dey don't understand. Without faith, you can't receive anything from God. U still av d wrong orientation about it as u still see it as the work of a man.

Once u don't believe in it, you av been automatically robbed by d devil cos it requires faith. Jesus usually said, "Be it unto you according to your faith".

removetheturban:
Seeing that you made a reference to Reinhard Bonnke, do you worship with Christ embassy?

Since you do not have the power to heal, is there any human with such power?

Saying that Jesus has the power, we do agree. The Bible also says that this sort of power to heal (the gift) was GIVEN to some men. I am sure that you have read that in your Bible. Therefore, is there a man with such power as to heal (the gift) in the world today?

If you claim that people have been robbed by the devil for not accepting your works of healing, can you share the mortality rate among benefactors of your works of healing?

Is there any significance noted by any third party medical organisation on this?

wat is the link BTW bonke nd CE? Nope i am not a member of CE
There is where u are mistaken. The same place u quoted also talked about the gift of faith? But the Bible said without faith it is impossible to please God.. Dat should give you a cue into wat we are talking about.
Lazarus was a friend to Jesus, and brother to mary nd Martha but dat didn't stop him from dying. Dat one experiences the miracle power of God doesn't make one immortal. All d Apostles died.

There are enough proof even online. Just Google sid roth. He usually interviews ppl who av had miraculous experiences, on YouTube u will see ppl like Pete Cabrera,Tom Fisher

Some Jws are not ready to know the truth just to argue blindly I don't have time for unfruitful discissions/debates.

I need not go far for I have members of my extended family who also lay hands to perform signs on people. Now, when you said people are controlled by the devil for not accepting your works of healing, does such thought make you feel self-righteous or judgmental in any way?

I sense that you are witholding names of popular men in Nigeria who are revered and known to perform many works of healing. In other words, do you believe that these popular men who are known to perform many works are genuine?

Where in the Bible did you get the "gift of faith"?

salvation101:
wat is the link BTW bonke nd CE? Nope i am not a member of CE
There is where u are mistaken. The same place u quoted also talked about the gift of faith? But the Bible said without faith it is impossible to please God.. Dat should give you a cue into wat we are talking about.
Lazarus was a friend to Jesus, and brother to mary nd Martha but dat didn't stop him from dying. Dat one experiences the miracle power of God doesn't make one immortal. All d Apostles died.

There are enough proof even online. Just Google sid roth. He usually interviews ppl who av had miraculous experiences, on YouTube u will see ppl like Pete Cabrera,Tom Fisher

No one is here to argue with you, Sir. This is just a forum for interchange and we don't even know for sure as to decide if you are human or a robot. Your supposition sprung out of bigotry. JW do not force their doctrines down anyone's throat. You do not expect a JW to be still and suck in whatever he is told.
Superiority complex can actually make someone develop a negative feeling toward others when he discovers that he cannot convincingly drag them under his feet. Complex actually affects weak minds when they meet tougher or genuine minds and this result in attempts to engage in defamation of others because a weak mind doesn't want to sink in shame. Let us try to be objective and make comments that drive issues and not pointed at any organisation.
When you walked into this forum, you did not come to meet like minds. You come knowing that there are different beliefs and different doctrines. So, when you meet one you should either embrace it or forsake it.

JW enjoy sharing the message from the Bible and not to be suppressive to anyone. We respect everyone's religion and we endeavour to iron our beliefs and customs that are contrary to the Bible's message.

As Christians, we must know where to draw the line and find a common ground with everyone. The idea of smearing people who hold on to their beliefs is vile.

solite3:
Some Jws are not ready to know the truth just to argue blindly I don't have time for unfruitful discissions/debates.

removetheturban:
I need not go far for I have members of my extended family who also lay hands to perform signs on people. Now, when you said people are controlled by the devil for not accepting your works of healing, does such thought make you feel self-righteous or judgmental in any way?

I sense that you are witholding names of popular men in Nigeria who are revered and known to perform many works of healing. In other words, do you believe that these popular men who are known to perform many works are genuine?

Where in the Bible did you get the "gift of faith"?

Its not about being judgmental or self righteous. Wateva u don't believe in the word of God you can't receive. If u don't believe in Jesus for salvation, you can't be saved.. How do u explain it? Devil does all to make men even disbelieve d existence of God. D more dey look d more convinced dey are that there is no God dats because we can't receive d things of God by feeling but by faith.
I av given u a list of places u can go and check out the messages and signs and wonders God is doing tru men. By their fruits u shall know dem. No man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed. Its more than just sitting back at home passing judgments.

1cor12:8 The Spirit gives one person the ability to speak with wisdom. And the same Spirit gives another person the ability to speak with knowledge. The same Spirit gives faith to one person and to another he gives gifts of healing. The Spirit gives to one person the power to do miracles, to another the ability to prophesy, and to another the ability to judge what is from the Spirit and what is not. The Spirit gives one person the ability to speak in different kinds of languages, and to another the ability to interpret those languages. One Spirit, the same Spirit, does all these things. The Spirit decides what to give each one.
1 Corinthians 12:8‭-‬11 ERV

salvation101:
Its not about being judgmental or self righteous. Wateva u don't believe in the word of God you can't receive. If u don't believe in Jesus for salvation, you can't be saved.. How do u explain it? Devil does all to make men even disbelieve d existence of God. D more dey look d more convinced dey are that there is no God dats because we can't receive d things of God by feeling but by faith.

Have you critically examined the brouhaha from critics over these works of healing to make an in-depth personal decision on this issue before arriving at your conclusion?

salvation101:
I av given u a list of places u can go and check out the messages and signs and wonders God is doing tru men.

Are you supposed to be referring one to places of signs and wonders or the Bible? Which is of more credible or valuable to you?

salvation101:
By their fruits u shall know dem. No man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed. Its more than just sitting back at home passing judgments.

By what fruits can we know the people controlled by the demons? What did Jesus say would be the identifying fruit of his servants?

salvation101:
1cor12:8 The Spirit gives one person the ability to speak with wisdom. And the same Spirit gives another person the ability to speak with knowledge. The same Spirit gives faith to one person and to another he gives gifts of healing.

I presume you wanted to quote 1 Corinthians 12:9. I very well know that we receive faith from God but your “gift of faith” stormed me. I had never seen it written like that “gift of faith” in any version. I am not discrediting your composition but I only wanted to make sure.

salvation101:
The Spirit gives to one person the power to do miracles, to another the ability to prophesy, and to another the ability to judge what is from the Spirit and what is not. The Spirit gives one person the ability to speak in different kinds of languages, and to another the ability to interpret those languages. One Spirit, the same Spirit, does all these things. The Spirit decides what to give each one.
1 Corinthians 12:8‭-‬11 ERV

You do not need to add ERV after your quotes. LOL (your choice though). I also have the ERV online and I quote from it many times. I only needed to see the “gifts of faith” that’s all.

salvation101:
Its not about being judgmental or self righteous. Wateva u don't believe in the word of God you can't receive. If u don't believe in Jesus for salvation, you can't be saved.. How do u explain it? Devil does all to make men even disbelieve d existence of God. D more dey look d more convinced dey are that there is no God dats because we can't receive d things of God by feeling but by faith.
I av given u a list of places u can go and check out the messages and signs and wonders God is doing tru men. By their fruits u shall know dem. No man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed. Its more than just sitting back at home passing judgments.

1cor12:8 The Spirit gives one person the ability to speak with wisdom. And the same Spirit gives another person the ability to speak with knowledge. The same Spirit gives faith to one person and to another he gives gifts of healing. The Spirit gives to one person the power to do miracles, to another the ability to prophesy, and to another the ability to judge what is from the Spirit and what is not. The Spirit gives one person the ability to speak in different kinds of languages, and to another the ability to interpret those languages. One Spirit, the same Spirit, does all these things. The Spirit decides what to give each one.
1 Corinthians 12:8‭-‬11 ERV

All these explanation will make no sense to him because he has been made to believe that watchtower organization is the only way to salvation.
7 old men in New York aka Governing body members aka faithful and discreet slave who are imperfect, infallible, uninspired and mortal are the mediators between God and their followers.

What do you expect from someone who has been told by the 7 old men in New York that they (the 7 old men) are the only channel of communication between God and man today.

What do you expect from someone who is afraid to read the Bible alone? Do you know independent thinking is a sign of apostacy according to their leaders?
He would not listen to your explanation. He only listens to the interpretation made by the 7 men in New York which can change at anytime.

removetheturban:
Have you critically examined the brouhaha from critics over these works of healing to make an in-depth personal decision on this issue before arriving at your conclusion?

Are you supposed to be referring one to places of signs and wonders or the Bible? Which is of more credible or valuable to you?

By what fruits can we know the people controlled by the demons? What did Jesus say would be the identifying fruit of his servants?

I presume you wanted to quote 1 Corinthians 12:9. I very well know that we receive faith from God but your “gift of faith” stormed me. I had never seen it written like that “gift of faith” in any version. I am not discrediting your composition but I only wanted to make sure. You do not need to add ERV after your quotes. LOL (your choice though). I also have the ERV online and I quote from it many times. I only needed to see the “gifts of faith” that’s all.

Yep i av examined those who try to discredit miracles and i see the same spirit working in dem as the atheist.. Dey want logical reasons about how miracle works and since dey don't understand dey end up dismissing it as false..

I started by referring you to the bible den u asked me to show u examples today and i gave you verifiable sources. Sid roth invites ppl dat u can even make background checks on their identities.

The fruits by wch u know those performing false signs and wonders is the overall result of wat dey do. Does it make ppl live in captivity(like in d occults) or sets dem free? Where the spirit of God is, there is liberty( 2cor 3:17).. The fruits of the Spirit of God is also present in such places. Show me anywhere in scripture where someone operated with the spirit of demons or devils and dat is a definition of ppl in captivity.. Paul encountered Elimas the sorcerer, Peter encountered Simon the sorcerer. Dey both held ppl in captivity and their power bowed to the true power of God. Same happened in Egypt... God's power doesn't chicken away from that of the devil, it over powers it.

Ok, but wat did u understand by that passage? Wat it referring to the general faith we all need to become sons of God? There where 9 different gifts the Bible mentioned in that passage as being distributed to individuals by the Spirit of God.

I copy directly from my Bible app and it adds the ERV suffix to any Bible text i copied.

Hairyrapunzel:
All these explanation will make no sense to him because he has been made to believe that watchtower organization is the only way to salvation.
7 old men in New York aka Governing body members aka faithful and discreet slave who are imperfect, infallible, uninspired and mortal are the mediators between God and their followers.

What do you expect from someone who has been told by the 7 old men in New York that they (the 7 old men) are the only channel of communication between God and man today.

What do you expect from someone who is afraid to read the Bible alone? Do you know independent thinking is a sign of apostacy according to their leaders?
He would not listen to your explanation. He only listens to the interpretation made by the 7 men in New York which can change at anytime.

lol. Am just doing my bit, if he ignores, someone else may just need to see it. It's not really about him anymore..

Hairyrapunzel:
All these explanation will make no sense to him because he has been made to believe that watchtower organization is the only way to salvation.
7 old men in New York aka Governing body members aka faithful and discreet slave who are imperfect, infallible, uninspired and mortal are the mediators between God and their followers.

What do you expect from someone who has been told by the 7 old men in New York that they (the 7 old men) are the only channel of communication between God and man today.

What do you expect from someone who is afraid to read the Bible alone? Do you know independent thinking is a sign of apostacy according to their leaders?
He would not listen to your explanation. He only listens to the interpretation made by the 7 men in New York which can change at anytime.

like the bible says, where the spirit of God is there is liberty. Its only in occults dat dey r afraid of the truth...the Holy Spirit is in every believer and is our personal teacher. We aren't afraid of any information as the Holy Spirit properly guides us into wat is the truth..if an organization is restricting members from acquiring information, den there is alot dey r trying to hide

salvation101:
Yep i av examined those who try to discredit miracles and i see the same spirit working in dem as the atheist.. Dey want logical reasons about how miracle works and since dey don't understand dey end up dismissing it as false..

I will not denigrate your works. In as much as we do not believe in them, we still hold that God will bring every one of us to a sifting. As you go about your works, ensure not to forget Ephesians 5:10 Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.

salvation101:
I started by referring you to the bible den u asked me to show u examples today and i gave you verifiable sources. Sid roth invites ppl dat u can even make background checks on their identities.

cool

salvation101:
The fruits by wch u know those performing false signs and wonders is the overall result of wat dey do. Does it make ppl live in captivity(like in d occults) or sets dem free? Where the spirit of God is, there is liberty( 2cor 3:17).. The fruits of the Spirit of God is also present in such places. Show me anywhere in scripture where someone operated with the spirit of demons or devils and dat is a definition of ppl in captivity.. Paul encountered Elimas the sorcerer, Peter encountered Simon the sorcerer. Dey both held ppl in captivity and their power bowed to the true power of God. Same happened in Egypt... God's power doesn't chicken away from that of the devil, it over powers it.

So, your power has overpowered the devil as it stands now?

salvation101:
Ok, but wat did u understand by that passage? Wat it referring to the general faith we all need to become sons of God? There where 9 different gifts the Bible mentioned in that passage as being distributed to individuals by the Spirit of God.

Well, what we believe is written in 1 Corinthians 13:13 Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but the greatest of these is love.
We do not have such powers to heal anyone or perform such wonderous signs. We do not believe in works of signs and wonders rather we follow the signs written in the Bible regarding the events that are eclipsing the last days. We pray to Jehovah through his son, Jesus. We believe in the words of the Bible and we have strong faith that he will answer our prayers. We do not decide a time for him to act but we know that he is always on time even if it appears late in the eyes of men. Our eyes are fixed upon the new system of things; Gods kingdom in which Jesus will rule as king for a thousand years. We dwell on his promises of a new world here on earth and a rulership that will be seated in heaven.
We have strong conviction that even if we die in this system, our hope of a resurrection will be realised if we endure to the very end of our lives. We do not grope or be beguiled by the enticements of this world for we know that this world is passing away. It is a sinking ship and we chose to jump out of it than sink with it.
Do you believe in the ressurection?

salvation101:
I copy directly from my Bible app and it adds the ERV suffix to any Bible text i copied.

I understand. I was just saying.

Have you asked the man what organisation he belongs to? Do you think that you can interchange encouragement with him? Would it be a crime to preach to him about reviling?

salvation101:
like the bible says, where the spirit of God is there is liberty. Its only in occults dat dey r afraid of the truth...the Holy Spirit is in every believer and is our personal teacher. We aren't afraid of any information as the Holy Spirit properly guides us into wat is the truth..if an organization is restricting members from acquiring information, den there is alot dey r trying to hide

removetheturban:
I will not denigrate your works. In as much as we do not believe in them, we still hold that God will bring every one of us to a sifting. As you go about your works, ensure not to forget Ephesians 5:10 Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.
cool
So, your power has overpowered the devil as it stands now?
Well, what we believe is written in 1 Corinthians 13:13 Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but the greatest of these is love.
We do not have such powers to heal anyone. We do not believe in works of signs and wonders rather we follow the signs written in the Bible regarding the events that are eclipsing the last days. We pray to Jehovah through his son, Jesus. We believe in the words of the Bible and we have strong faith that he will answer our prayers. We do not decide a time for him to act but we know that he is always on time even if it appears late in the eyes of men. Our eyes are fixed upon the new system of things; Gods kingdom in which Jesus will rule as king for a thousand years. We dwell on his promises of a new world here on earth and a rulership that will be seated in heaven.
We have strong conviction that even if we die in this system, our hope of a resurrection will be realised if we endure to the very end of our lives. We do not grope or be beguiled by the enticements of this world for we know that this world is passing away. It is a sinking ship and we chose to jump out of it than sink with it.
Do you believe in the ressurection?
I understand. I was just saying.

U already denigrate it by calling it my works. Eph5:10 said we should learn wat pleases the Lord and healing has always pleased God.. God said to the Israelites, "I am the Lord that healeth thee".. The woman who touched Jesus garment didn't ask if she should. It was always his will to heal. He told her, "Daughter, your faith has made you whole.. When faith meets the will of God, miracle must follow.

Christ carried our sins in his body on the cross. He did this so that we would stop living for sin and live for what is right. By his wounds you were healed.
1 Peter 2:24 ERV
Jesus accused a woman dat was sick to have been put in dat situation by the devil.. Sickness is never the will of God. It is either due to our negligence or poor health habit, the work of the devil or consequence of sin. For this purpose Jesus was manifested dat he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whenever there is a situation where the power of God collide with dat of the devil, dat of the never has to bow as dagon bowed before the Ark of covenant.

Yep, love is the greatest Christian virtue but it does not nullify the others. The man is d head of the woman doesn't make the woman inconsequential.

Well, Jesus knew a time like dis would come dat ppl will be afraid to ask the father for things cos of fear dats why in luke 11 he said
So I tell you, continue to ask, and God will give to you. Continue to search, and you will find. Continue to knock, and the door will open for you. Yes, whoever continues to ask will receive. Whoever continues to look will find. And whoever continues to knock will have the door opened for them. Do any of you have a son? What would you do if your son asked you for a fish? Would any father give him a snake? Or, if he asked for an egg, would you give him a scorpion? Of course not! Even you who are bad know how to give good things to your children. So surely your heavenly Father knows how to give the Holy Spirit to the people who ask him.”
Luke 11:9‭-‬13 ERV

U can't ask God for a miracle and receive answers from the devil.

Yeah i believe in resurrection

removetheturban:
Have you asked the man what organisation he belongs to? Do you think that you can interchange encouragement with him? Would it be a crime to preach to him about reviling?

am very well interested, he seems to know alot of details about Jw dat i hear for the first time. Are those things he says true?

Generally, JW do not respond to criticism or pay attention to Trolls. We have a very important task of preaching the life-saving message in the Bible. It will be a waste of time responding to Trolls jibes when sincere-hearted ones are beckoning for the truth that leads to everlasting life.

Jesus has told us that revilers and opposition will abound in the course of our service to him. It is not an easy task to stand out. Look at how they slaughtered Jesus in cold blood and also the apostles. The blasphemers knew in their hearts that they were lying. They were not in control. They were lost and sold to the father of all lies. That man made a blasphemous comment against us, he was proven wrong but he did not have the balls to apologise even when I demanded it repeatedly. Is such a person of God?

When people come up against you, there is an attraction in you that either threatens them or they are desirous of but they cannot have it. JW ignore spiteful grudges and keep moving. We do not profit by engaging in empty debates and cantankerous squabble that end up in violence or aggression. As you claim, you have known some JW and I will want to believe that they do not squabble over details with you. When it gets intense or heated, we just make a pass and let people be. Jesus did not ask us to force our doctrine down people's throats. We tell you and we are always polite with it. If you refuse to listen, we keep moving. There is no obligation to force people to like us or to accept our teachings.

We do not go attacking people like that. We can easily tell you that we do not believe or accept something but we cannot judge anyone because we do not have that power. People feel that we are vulnerable to attack and that is why they throw the punches. They cannot mess around with other religions or churches. I have seen grown men fighting over Oyakhilome's divorce and over Oyedepo's private jets. JW do not get reeled into such mess. We might not agree with opinions but what is the reason for being disrespectful?

That man is irrational and irreverent. You can tell where he is coming from. When someone is bigoted and depressed there is always someone to blame. He found the JW and we do not let that bother us. Our brothers are being killed and persecuted in many countries. They face physical abuse and imprisonment. Do you know how many JW are imprisoned just for being JW? So, why should I pay any attention to a demented reviler?

You have a choice to take his words. I am not influencing that. We do not care about whatever he puts out. It does not stop us from doing the same thing that we do. He is not original. Everything he puts out has already been posted online publicly by thousands of bloggers. A copycat doesn't impress me.

salvation101:
am very well interested, he seems to know alot of details about Jw dat i hear for the first time. Are those things he says true?

removetheturban:
Generally, JW do not respond to criticism or pay attention to Trolls. We have a very important task of preaching the life-saving message in the Bible. It will be a waste of time responding to Trolls jibes when sincere-hearted ones are beckoning for the truth that leads to everlasting life.

Jesus has told us that revilers and opposition will abound in the course of our service to him. It is not an easy task to stand out. Look at how they slaughtered Jesus in cold blood and also the apostles. The blasphemers knew in their hearts that they were lying. They were not in control. They were lost and sold to the father of all lies. That man made a blasphemous comment against us, he was proven wrong but he did not have the balls to apologise even when I demanded it repeatedly. Is such a person of God?

When people come up against you, there is an attraction in you that either threatens them or they are desirous of but they cannot have it. JW ignore spiteful grudges and keep moving. We do not profit by engaging in empty debates and cantankerous squabble that end up in violence or aggression. As you claim, you have known some JW and I will want to believe that they do not squabble over details with you. When it gets intense or heated, we just make a pass and let people be. Jesus did not ask us to force our doctrine down people's throats. We tell you and we are always polite with it. If you refuse to listen, we keep moving. There is no obligation to force people to like us or to accept our teachings.

We do not go attacking people like that. We can easily tell you that we do not believe or accept something but we cannot judge anyone because we do not have that power. People feel that we are vulnerable to attack and that is why they throw the punches. They cannot mess around with other religions or churches. I have seen grown men fighting over Oyakhilome's divorce and over Oyedepo's private jets. JW do not get reeled into such mess. We might not agree with opinions but what is the reason for being disrespectful?

That man is irrational and irreverent. You can tell where he is coming from. When someone is bigoted and depressed there is always someone to blame. He found the JW and we do not let that bother us. Our brothers are being killed and persecuted in many countries. They face physical abuse and imprisonment. Do you know how many JW are imprisoned just for being JW? So, why should I pay any attention to a demented reviler?

You have a choice to take his words. I am not influencing that. We do not care about whatever he puts out. It does not stop us from doing the same thing that we do. He is not original. Everything he puts out has already been posted online publicly by thousands of bloggers. A copycat doesn't impress me.

d funny thing is that on nairaland, the most attacked Christian movement is the pentecostals, topics like dat hit front page before you say jack robbinson. Like i once said, we need to av a thick skin if u wanna defend ur faith.. Its on dis board u av to swear an Islamic oath before you comment on Islamic topics but opening a thread on freethesheeple is fashionable nd free for all. If u said jws do not revile, den probably u av not met other jw folks on dis forum. U can only speak for ursef

salvation101:
d funny thing is that on nairaland, the most attacked Christian movement is the pentecostals, topics like dat hit front page before you say jack robbinson. Like i once said, we need to av a thick skin if u wanna defend ur faith.. Its on dis board u av to swear an Islamic oath before you comment on Islamic topics but opening a thread on freethesheeple is fashionable nd free for all. If u said jws do not revile, den probably u av not met other jw folks on dis forum. U can only speak for ursef

yes lolz when one of them said KJV is spurious and corrupted

Ferisidowu:
yes lolz when one of them said KJV is spurious and corrupted

toh.. D name con-men has even been substituted for names of pentecostal pastors, dey call Oyedepo oledepo, dey call Adeboye adebole etc even d members are called sheeples

"Your" encompasses you all. I did not singularise, I was referring to you, the individuals that you mentioned and your religion. Do not take it in a negative light.

salvation101:
U already denigrate it by calling it my works. Eph5:10 said we should learn wat pleases the Lord and healing has always pleased God.. God said to the Israelites, "I am the Lord that healeth thee".. The woman who touched Jesus garment didn't ask if she should. It was always his will to heal. He told her, "Daughter, your faith has made you whole.. When faith meets the will of God, miracle must follow.

Christ carried our sins in his body on the cross. He did this so that we would stop living for sin and live for what is right. By his wounds you were healed.
1 Peter 2:24 ERV
Jesus accused a woman dat was sick to have been put in dat situation by the devil.. Sickness is never the will of God. It is either due to our negligence or poor health habit, the work of the devil or consequence of sin. For this purpose Jesus was manifested dat he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whenever there is a situation where the power of God collide with dat of the devil, dat of the never has to bow as dagon bowed before the Ark of covenant.

Yep, love is the greatest Christian virtue but it does not nullify the others. The man is d head of the woman doesn't make the woman inconsequential.

Well, Jesus knew a time like dis would come dat ppl will be afraid to ask the father for things cos of fear dats why in luke 11 he said
So I tell you, continue to ask, and God will give to you. Continue to search, and you will find. Continue to knock, and the door will open for you. Yes, whoever continues to ask will receive. Whoever continues to look will find. And whoever continues to knock will have the door opened for them. Do any of you have a son? What would you do if your son asked you for a fish? Would any father give him a snake? Or, if he asked for an egg, would you give him a scorpion? Of course not! Even you who are bad know how to give good things to your children. So surely your heavenly Father knows how to give the Holy Spirit to the people who ask him.”
Luke 11:9‭-‬13 ERV

U can't ask God for a miracle and receive answers from the devil.

Yeah i believe in resurrection

I have encountered some Muslims coming to bash the Bible on my threads. The moderators are quite bigoted. There is never any negative news about Muslims on the front page.
When Christians are busy tearing each other apart, what else can you expect? The Muslims are having fun with the feasting. Talking about Tithing, do you accept it for Christians?

salvation101:
d funny thing is that on nairaland, the most attacked Christian movement is the pentecostals, topics like dat hit front page before you say jack robbinson. Like i once said, we need to av a thick skin if u wanna defend ur faith.. Its on dis board u av to swear an Islamic oath before you comment on Islamic topics but opening a thread on freethesheeple is fashionable nd free for all. If u said jws do not revile, den probably u av not met other jw folks on dis forum. U can only speak for ursef

No need to go far, I have also used the word spurious and corruption to refer to the inserted texts at 1 John 5:7 in the KJV. How else would one describe the discrepancy in that translation? If you compare it to other Bible versions you will see the dissimilarity.

Ferisidowu:
yes lolz when one of them said KJV is spurious and corrupted

I am the same person as LovingJehovah for your update. I know you copied me on the other thread. I was consecutively banned on the other handle hence I made a change to this. So far so good, I am safe for now LOL.

removetheturban:
I have encountered some Muslims coming to bash the Bible on my threads. The moderators are quite bigoted. There is never any negative news about Muslims on the front page.
When Christians are busy tearing each other apart, what else can you expect? The Muslims are having fun with the feasting. Talking about Tithing, do you accept it for Christians?

the hypocritical Muslims do sneak in one threads like dis and make rubbish comment but i just silent dem with few questions... (why did Mohammed snatch his servant's wife?, why did he marry and av sex with a minor considering d health implications?).. Dey never come back to answer such questions as d realization dawns on dem dat those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones..

They are from Ishmael. They must always cause disruption. A few of them actually respond to the Bible's message. The ones on here are very hostile to the Bible. But one will always stay positive with such-like ones.

salvation101:
the hypocritical Muslims do sneak in one threads like dis and make rubbish comment but i just silent dem with few questions... (why did Mohammed snatch his servant's wife?, why did he marry and av sex with a minor considering d health implications?).. Dey never come back to answer such questions as d realization dawns on dem dat those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones..

removetheturban:
No need to go far, I have also used the word spurious and corruption to refer to the inserted texts at 1 John 5:7 in the KJV. How else would one describe the discrepancy in that translation? If you compare it to other Bible versions you will see the dissimilarity. I am the same person as LovingJehovah for your update. I know you copied me on the other thread. I was consecutively banned on the other handle hence I made a change to this. So far so good, I am safe for now LOL.

lolz the funniest thing is that I suspected you are lovingjehovah anyways may God help us attain better understanding of his words Amen

LOL why did you suspect? What gave you that hint?

Ferisidowu:
lolz the funniest thing is that I suspected you are lovingjehovah anyways may God help us attain better understanding of his words Amen

removetheturban:
LOL why did you suspect? What gave you that hint?

I'm very sincere about it .... I was like an inkling sincerely ..I just decided not to ask ... but sincerely I suspected its the same person ...

1) removetheturban seemed to be active when we stopped earing from lovingjehovah .... it might have been difficult if you had used both accounts simultaneously from the onset

See as my followed topics Indicator is filled .


so far , so good ... you guys have digressed from the main subject of the thread .

Jesus is not the Supreme God , Yahweh is . while Jesus is his servant .