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Deadlytruth:
Please can you quote that verse of the Bible where Christians are specifically commanded to preach from house to house, and also the verse that shows Jesus preaching from house to house and knocking at peoples' doors to sell magazines towards raising funds for his mother ministry from people who were yet to accept the religion he was preaching?

In her youthful days, the JW tried different forms of Preaching, and always stuck with what worked during a period of time.

They have tried/done/still using:
-Ran radio sermons

-Used vests just like the Lords chosen mopol(i'm freaking serious)

-Used motion picture(photo drama of creation video)

-Cart witnessing(in recent times)

-Public witnessing

- Phonographs....

-And on the streets with loud speakers(m sure you never knew)

-The internet

But the house to house ministry has proven over time to be the most efficient method, altho times are changing.

But the Mormons were doing the house to house before Charles Taze Russell started the bible students(aka JW)....so you could say they were school by the Mormons and Later day saints.

Cheers!!

sylvajoe:
27, 2016
THE FRANCISCO POPE PRAISES GOD’S WITNESSES WORLDWIDE !!
Moving – Pascom Porto Feliz: Catholic Conference discusses increasing Witnesses … What drives so many people to become Jehovah’s Witnesses? This was the question asked by some clerics, as shown by the following quotations. For example, in Bologna, Italy, the ecclesiastical authorities, with the approval of the pope, held a conference to discuss ways to combat the success of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The Catholic Church raised a “cry of alarm”, the newspaper La Republica, because every year ten thousand Catholics become Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Jesuit Giuseppe De Rosa said that “the religious point of view the most dangerous are Jehovah’s Witnesses. They come fully trained, and always have the Bible in hand.”
In an article that deals specifically with Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Jesuit journal La Civilta Cattolica said:
“The first reason for the spread of this movement are the propaganda techniques [ie, in preaching]. On the one hand, the work is thorough, carried from house to house by people who are strictly trained in this work, and are deeply convinced [ …] ”
“The second reason for the success of TJs is the force of attraction of Jehovah’s message, because it can meet the needs, demands and expectations of the people of our time. First, answers the need for certainty, which is much appreciated at a time where everything is uncertain and unstable. […] Above all, it is an absolutely safe revelation of the future and, therefore, all who accepted, experience freedom from fear and anxiety and can face the future with joy, with ensuring that survive the destruction that will come the great day of God’s judgment on a wicked world, to live in eternal happiness on earth. Second, Jehovah’s message helps to overcome the concern of the individual against the woes of this world, announces that soon will end the unbearable situation of today, and soon, so there will be a new era will be born a new world in which all the wicked will be removed now triumph. […] ”
“The third reason for the success of TJs is that this movement gives its members a precise identity and strong, and is a place where they were greeted with warmth and a sense of brotherhood and solidarity.”
The Vatican document analyzed the needs of people today, and the quote above the Jesuit journal La Civilta Cattolica showed that the message of Jehovah’s Witnesses meet those needs. This also showed Vittorio Messori Catholic writer in his recent book Scommesse sulla morte (a bet on death), who writes: “It makes us think that Jehovah’s Witnesses, is one of the religious denominations of the fastest growing in the world. It is among the religions that are practiced in many countries and perhaps […] is first in terms of fervor, zeal, activism, the ability to make proselytes. ” “And his presence, increasingly pronounced, is not limited to Christian tradition countries, but reaching the whole world, where in the name of Jehovah, and before long, they get results that are superior to those of Catholic missionaries, Protestants and Orthodox, who have worked for centuries. ”
“This stunning expansive force is incomprehensible only to those who simply do not want to admit that […] course in how to understand the Bible, Jehovah’s Witnesses meet the real needs that other theologies do not meet.” “You can not get around the issue suggesting that the growth of witnesses is because they scare people is precisely the opposite:. Unlike the churches” official “, deny the existence of hell and preach the destruction, disappearance after death to the wicked and unbelieving. This may be an unpleasant prospect, but certainly less frightening than the threat of a terrible pain for all eternity. “Yes, the God of Jehovah’s Witnesses is a loving God, and not one that terrorizes the people .
The following quote is the Catholic magazine Mondo ERRE March 1986: “It must be said that Jehovah’s Witnesses are the first to live the faith they preach: Do not IRAM, do not smoke, do not accumulate wealth, remain outside the political discussions […] pay taxes. They live a virtuous and honest life, they are happy and helpful. All this has made people appreciate the ”
I’m glad to know that they have had success in evangelizing them my family is Catholic more from small learn to admire their work in all the earth ….
Alexa  60
 Posted September 28, 2016
https://lifeway777..com/2015/02/catholic-conference-discusses.html
Thank you for the post Queen Esther, I find this as a source same as you too
Queen Esther  10,513
 Posted September 28, 2016
Thank you dear Alexa?? I do what I can, yes !  On Wednesday September 28, 2016 at 05:30,
Alexa said:
https://lifeway777..com/2015/02/catholic-conference-discusses.html
Thank you for the post Queen Esther, I find this as a source same as you too 
Melinda Mills  370
 Posted October 2, 2016
From March 1987 Awake Magazine. Nothing to do with the present Pope.
Melinda Mills  370
 Posted October 3, 2016
Why are you posting this every couple of months. Saw it more than once. The heading is incorrect. It was not Pope Francis.
This is what it said: "The Catholic Church raised a "cry of alarm", according to La Repubblica, because every year ten thousand thousand Catholics become Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Jesuit Giusseppe De Rosa said that "from a religious point of view the most dangerous are Jehovah's Witneses. They come fully trained; they always have the Bible in their hand."
In an editorial dealing specifically with Jehovah's Witnesses, the Jesuit magazine La Civilta Cattolica of February 18, 1984 , wrote: "The first reason for the spread of the movement lies in the propaganda techniques [that is, in the preaching work]. The work on the one hand is painstaking, carried out from door to door by people who are scrupulously trained in this work and strongly convinced ... " etc etc
Why are we so hungry for the plaudits of worldly men?
Reginald Fitzpatrick  3
 Posted April 27, 2017
I do appreciate all the wonderful comments coming from fellow worshipers I must say that many more people, not just former Catholics, but all who are righteously inclined will become such as we are, Jehovah's loving people.
I spoke to a brother from Russia and he said we should keep praying for them. I told him we do this many times every day.
Queen Esther  10,513
 Posted April 27, 2017
Thank you very much,
@Reginald Fitzpatrick Oh yes.... we do that really every day ❤ I think, we will soon can see Jehovah's plan about Russia, Eritrea and more Countries, where our Brothers in big need ;-(( Jehovah NEVER lets HIS folk alone, HE always fight for us, what a loving GOD ❤
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Queen Esther  10,513
 Posted May 14, 2017
Thanks for your liking my post from last year @sophie ..... Can you tell us, what you special like at this report from last year ? Thank you ! Greetings from Germany
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Unfortunately these are approvals by men speaking on behalf of the very worldly establishments which the JW doctrines claim to stand against. What an interesting irony!
Did Jesus ever relish flattery from the likes of Nicodemus who represented one of the worldly establishments from whose yoke He came to free people?
The argument used to be that JWs fewness confers on them the status of narrow way leading to eternity. But with all these celebration of millions of converts to the fold doesn't it become logical that it is now among the wide roads leading to destruction?
By their fruits (not by their words) ye shall know them.

removetheturban:
Okay.

Would you like to join them?

That's the awesome part of been a Christian, I must not be Part of an organized religion.

Fellowship is awesome, but so says our Master Jesus :"when 2 or more are gathered in my NAME, I am there...,"

The same drive that made Charles T. Russell start a bible study sessions with his friend, that's what drives some of us.

Salvation isn't dependent on been part of an "Organization", you could as well take that to the bank.

oteneaaron:
In her youthful days, the JW tried different forms of Preaching, and always stuck with what worked during a period of time.

They have tried/done/still using:
-Ran radio sermons

-Used vests just like the Lords chosen mopol(i'm freaking serious)

-Used motion picture(photo drama of creation video)

-Cart witnessing(in recent times)

-Public witnessing

- Phonographs....

-And on the streets with loud speakers(m sure you never knew)

-The internet

But the house to house ministry has proven over time to be the most efficient method, altho times are changing.

But the Mormons were doing the house to house before Charles Taze Russell started the bible students(aka JW)....so you could say they were school by the Mormons and Later day saints.

Cheers!!

You still have not shown me the specific Bible passage that says it must take the house to house manner.
Is it about which one works best or which one the Bible specifies? I thought your organization emphasizes specific biblical directives?

Prosthuks:
Ignorance is indeed bad. You know nothing about JW. Open your eye and see

Did Jesus Christ come to earth to set up an Organization?

If He did, did He name it JW?

The only thing I see in this house to house preaching done by JWs is that it brings them money, which is why watchtower is one of the wealthiest religious organizations on earth.[/quote]sharrap!!! How much have u given to jw to support their activities


they have the most quality magazines,
while ur religion spend money on massions called church.... jw spend money on magazine for d world they source their anonymous contributors mostly frm d organisation. I never wanted to talk on this. But one thing still remain a fact '' d JW's are doing it better than any religion on earth ''..... I hope to join them soon

I appreciate your thought on this. Would you love your view to be respected or denigrated?

oteneaaron:
That's the awesome part of been a Christian, I must not be Part of an organized religion.

Fellowship is awesome, but so says our Master Jesus :"when 2 or more are gathered in my NAME, I am there...,"

The same drive that made Charles T. Russell start a bible study sessions with his friend, that's what drives some of us.

Salvation isn't dependent on been part of an "Organization", you could as well take that to the bank.

Emmanystone:
Wow, I am Albhagdadi? This is an honour.

Honor be to God

removetheturban:
I appreciate your thought on this. Would you love your view to be respected or denigrated?

I believe he would love his view to be respected, not denigrated.

But do JW respect other people's views? If they do, then why do their publications attack majority of Catholic, Pentecostal, Orthodox and other Churches by calling them false?

Deadlytruth:
You still have not shown me the specific Bible passage that says it must take the house to house manner.
Is it about which one works best or which one the Bible specifies? I thought your organization emphasizes specific biblical directives?

There is no word for word instruction per se.

They work with the reasoning that:

-Since Jesus sent his disciples in "two's" and

-He(Jesus) talked about not staying too long in a house and shaking the dust off your feet if your message isn't accepted, and

-Also studying the lives and times of early christians, like Peter who went to the "home" Cornelius....the concluded that preaching house to house was permissible by scripture.

Please note that the JW practice a flawed method of bible interpretation called the "eisgesis" method, where they first create a doctrine and force a bible passage to interprete it.

When the best and spirit led way is the "Exegesis"method where you allow the scriptures explain (under the influence of the holy spirit) and then make doctrine, not the other way round.

Do the math bro.

Courtesy demands that audience is giving to he that is asked. Or, are you surreptitiously confirming what one contributor said that you are the same person operating 2 or 3 separate accounts?

alBHAGDADI:
I believe he would love his view to be respected, not denigrated.

But do JW respect other people's views? If they do, then why do their publications attack majority of Catholic, Pentecostal, Orthodox and other Churches by calling them false?

removetheturban:
I appreciate your thought on this. Would you love your view to be respected or denigrated?

Am I supposed to answer that??

Oh well, it all depends on whether or not I am kind enough to respect the views of others and criticise constructively.

But if I don't then who am I to complain if my views aren't respected.

Do to others what you want them to do to you.

Cheers!

DavidEsq:
JWs are everywhere. In Russia, they have been banned. That environment is a very hostile one. The only countries JWs have no kingdom Hall are North Korea, Sudan and Afghanistan. If u build a Kingdom Hall and it get burnt and everyone killed, how do u get to preach. That's why we have the jw.org for such countries and a lot of persons from these hostile countries are studying the bible online, with JWs. Someone once said dat it is only a fool that wld draw the sword, wen all he needed to do was use the bow and arrow.

Having a website that those hostile countries can access doesn't equate to you being on ground. Apostle Paul had no website, yet he approached difficult terrains to preach.

You claim JW are in every country except 3. Pls, give us addresses of their kingdom halls, especially in saudi arabia and pakistan. You claim you don't want your kingdom hall burnt that's why you don't go there. Do you know the amount of Churches that get burnt in the middle east all the time, especially during Christian festive periods? Has that stopped those Christians from building more?

removetheturban:
Courtesy demands that audience is giving to he that is asked. Or, are you surreptitiously confirming what one contributor said that you are the same person operating 2 or 3 separate accounts?

Don't tell me you really believed that assumption.

I've noticed something about you on this thread. Whenever you are faced with a tough argument which exposes JW, instead of addressing it or fleeing, you cunningly digress by speaking of something irrelevant.

In the case of the post of mine which you quoted, you realized you couldn't challenge it, hence your decision to talk of me being another poster on this forum. Even if I am the poster as well, should that stop you from contesting the points raised?

oteneaaron:
There is no word for word instruction per se.

They work with the reasoning that:

-Since Jesus sent his disciples in "two's" and

-He(Jesus) talked about not staying too long in a house and shaking the dust off your feet if your message isn't accepted, and

-Also studying the lives and times of early christians, like Peter who went to the "home" Cornelius....the concluded that preaching house to house was permissible by scripture.

Please note that the JW practice a flawed method of bible interpretation called the "eisgesis" method, where they first create a doctrine and force a bible passage to interprete it.

When the best and spirit led way is the "Exegesis"method where you allow the scriptures explain (under the influence of the holy spirit) and then make doctrine, not the other way round.

Do the math bro.

Peter's visit to Cornelius' house was a specific isolated case of a visit made to honour an invitation and not that Peter was going from house to house and Cornelius' house randomly happened to be one of the houses he stumbled on along his path of itinerary. Moreover, he did not really go to evangelize Cornelius as Cornelius was already a believed at that point in time, hence the visit was just to strengthen Cornelius' faith as required of fellow believers towards one another.

As per your eigesis vs exegesis methods which you claim is guided by the Holy Spirit: JWs once told the world in a 1902 Awake edition that there was nothing wrong with celebration of Christmas by its members only for it to denounce the festival as evil in later editions. How could the Holy Spirit have guided a people to give a particular interpretation on an issue and then later on guide them to give a directly opposite interpretation to the same issue just some years afterwards? Is the Holy Spirit inconsistent?
To me, such an organization is not truly being guided by the Holy Spirit and hence disqualified as God's truly approved one.

As for the issue of shaking off dust from the feet, the passage in question mentions entire towns and not houses.[s]

oteneaaron:
There is no word for word instruction per se.

They work with the reasoning that:

-Since Jesus sent his disciples in "two's" and

-He(Jesus) talked about not staying too long in a house and shaking the dust off your feet if your message isn't accepted, and

-Also studying the lives and times of early christians, like Peter who went to the "home" Cornelius....the concluded that preaching house to house was permissible by scripture.

Please note that the JW practice a flawed method of bible interpretation called the "eisgesis" method, where they first create a doctrine and force a bible passage to interprete it.

When the best and spirit led way is the "Exegesis"method where you allow the scriptures explain (under the influence of the holy spirit) and then make doctrine, not the other way round.

Do the math bro.

Peter's visit to Cornelius' house was a specific isolated case of a visit made to honour an invitation and not that Peter was going from house to house and Cornelius' house randomly happened to be one of the houses he stumbled on along his path of itinerary. Moreover, he did not really go to evangelize Cornelius as Cornelius was already a believed at that point in time, hence the visit was just to strengthen Cornelius' faith as required of fellow believers towards one another.

As per your eigesis vs exegesis methods which you claim is guided by the Holy Spirit: JWs once told the world in a 1902 Awake edition that there was nothing wrong with celebration of Christmas by its members only for it to denounce the festival as evil in later editions. How could the Holy Spirit have guided a people to give a particular interpretation on an issue and then later on guide them to give a directly opposite interpretation to the same issue just some years afterwards? Is the Holy Spirit inconsistent?
To me, such an organization is not truly being guided by the Holy Spirit and hence disqualified as God's truly approved one.

As for the issue of shaking off dust from the feet, the passage in question mentions entire towns and not houses.[/s]

oteneaaron:
There is no word for word instruction per se.

They work with the reasoning that:

-Since Jesus sent his disciples in "two's" and

-He(Jesus) talked about not staying too long in a house and shaking the dust off your feet if your message isn't accepted, and

-Also studying the lives and times of early christians, like Peter who went to the "home" Cornelius....the concluded that preaching house to house was permissible by scripture.

Please note that the JW practice a flawed method of bible interpretation called the "eisgesis" method, where they first create a doctrine and force a bible passage to interprete it.

When the best and spirit led way is the "Exegesis"method where you allow the scriptures explain (under the influence of the holy spirit) and then make doctrine, not the other way round.

Do the math bro.

Peter's visit to Cornelius' house was a specific isolated case of a visit made to honour an invitation and not that Peter was going from house to house and Cornelius' house randomly happened to be one of the houses he stumbled on along his path of itinerary. Moreover, he did not really go to evangelize Cornelius as Cornelius was already a believer at that point in time, hence the visit was just to strengthen Cornelius' faith as required of fellow believers towards one another.

As per your eigesis vs exegesis methods which you claim is guided by the Holy Spirit: JWs once told the world in a 1902 Awake edition that there was nothing wrong with celebration of Christmas by its members only for it to denounce the festival as evil in later editions. How could the Holy Spirit have guided a people to give a particular interpretation on an issue and then later on guide them to give a directly opposite interpretation to the same issue just some years afterwards? Is the Holy Spirit inconsistent?
To me, such an organization is not truly being guided by the Holy Spirit and hence disqualified as God's truly approved one.

As for the issue of shaking off dust from the feet, the passage in question mentions entire towns and not houses.

Fellowship is awesome, but so says our Master Jesus :"when 2 or more are gathered in my NAME, I am there...," The bolded is your statement. It shows that you believe in Jesus and his command which is good. By all standard, Jesus' views should be respected. You believe that you go by Jesus' view, which is good. Now, by saying 'Oh well, it all depends on whether or not I am kind enough to respect the views of others and criticise constructively', are you insinuating that Jesus' view can be denigrated as a result of your decision, or is your view not in concordance with Jesus'?

oteneaaron:
Am I supposed to answer that??

Oh well, it all depends on whether or not I am kind enough to respect the views of others and criticise constructively.

But if I don't then who am I to complain if my views aren't respected.

Do to others what you want them to do to you.

Cheers!

Emmanystone:
I went for Evangelism 2 yrs ago and met a man who when i began talking to him, he introduced himself as a Babalawo. They way he said it, he meant to scare me, but instead of being scared, i sat down and took him on so genlty that he didn't know when i led him to Christ.

He said the sinners prayers, before he knew it. He kept asking me, who are you? He asked me that 5times. Who are you that you don't have fear? I told him i represent Jesus, and in Jesus there's no fear. He told me why he kept asking me who I was.

He said, many people had gone to him, but immediately they hear, 'I be Babalawo o, they turn back and leave, but he told me that, instead of leaving, i sat down.

He said countless Jehovah's Witnesses had gone to him, but they turn back and leave as they hear who he was.

The next day, i took a pastor to his shrine, where he lived, before us, he brought out his neck, chain, his hand band and rings and destroyed them before us. He knelt down and was seriously prayed for. Today he is a Christian. I spoke with him today. He will be in church tomorrow.

What are the JW afraid of that they don't confront satan? They wait for territories to be conquered before they come with their kingdom message. I won't be surprised that they will now go to the former Babalawo to preach the kingdom.

Be careful those of you who entertain these people thinking they are serving God. They hate Christians fiercely.

Just imagine the part Festus Keyamo played in Otobo's saga, all because he is a witness and Apostle Suleman is Christian.

Stay away from their energy.

so its now u know dat d JW preaches without knowing whom dey claim 2 represent?

I never took it seriously but I am surprised that you jump in and swap responses for a question. Sir, you did not ask a sincere question. I want to believe that you are educated enough to know what you are guilty of the same thing that you accuse others. I was having a conversation with someone else, you jumped in which was rude, and asked a derailing question. Go through your comment again and tell me if that was professional.

And coming here to tell me that you have noticed something about me does not sound pragmatic. You need to stay on a thought and finish it instead of pivoting. We are not here to compete, it is called a public forum. You express yourself and give way for others too and that is a decorum. If we cannot act like Christians, at least we need to be civilized.

alBHAGDADI:
Don't tell me you really believed that assumption.

I've noticed something about you on this thread. Whenever you are faced with a tough argument which exposes JW, instead of addressing it or fleeing, you cunningly digress by speaking of something irrelevant.

In the case of the post of mine which you quoted, you realized you couldn't challenge it, hence your decision to talk of me being another poster on this forum. Even if I am the poster as well, should that stop you from contesting the points raised?

removetheturban:
Fellowship is awesome, but so says our Master Jesus :"when 2 or more are gathered in my NAME, I am there...," The bolded is your statement. It shows that you believe in Jesus and his command which is good. By all standard, Jesus' views should be respected. You believe that you go by Jesus' view, which is good. Now, by saying 'Oh well, it all depends on whether or not I am kind enough to respect the views of others and criticise constructively', are you insinuating that Jesus' view can be denigrated as a result of your decision, or is your view not in concordance with Jesus'?

Hahahaha, cut and join conclusion.

Typical.

You ask if I would want "my" views to be respected or not. You never asked about Jesus's view.

All you're planning to get at is why my thinking of not been part of any organization and still be eligible for salvation is awfully wrong, right??

Go back and read my words, carefully.

Here is how your argument would pan out. ...

Jesus's view supports an earthly organization, moreso he talked about a faithful slave given ownership among his belongings(but you'll forget he said the slave would get the belongings when the master arrives not before), JW are the true organization, and survival depends solely on been part of your brotherhood.

But maybe I'm wrong.

Stop cutting and joining my words bro.

Cheers.

Deadlytruth:
Peter's visit to Cornelius' house was a specific isolated case of a visit made to honour an invitation and not that Peter was going from house to house and Cornelius' house happened to be one of the houses he stumbled on along his path of itinerary. Moreover, he did not really go to evangelize Cornelius as Cornelius had already accepted believed in the faith far before Peter had to visit him. He only went to strengthen Cornelius' faith as a fellow believer.

As per your eigesis vs exegesis methods which you claim is guided by the Holy Spirit: JWs once told the world in a 1902 Awake edition that there was nothing wrong with celebration of Christmas by its members only for it to denounce the festival as evil in later editions. How could the Holy Spirit have guided a people to give a particular interpretation on an issue and then later on guide them to give a directly opposite interpretation to the same issue just some years afterwards? Is the Holy Spirit inconsistent?
To me, such an organization is not truly being guided by the Holy Spirit and hence disqualified as God's truly approved one.

As for the issue of shaking off dust from the feet, the passage in question mentions entire towns and not houses.

No offence bruh, but you're confusing yourself. Try and read thru my words carefully. The math is an easy one.

Cheers.

removetheturban:
I never took it seriously but I am surprised that you jump in and swap responses for a question. Sir, you did not ask a sincere question. I want to believe that you are educated enough to know what you are guilty of the same thing that you accuse others. I was having a conversation with someone else, you jumped in which was rude, and asked a derailing question. Go through your comment again and tell me if that was professional.

And coming here to tell me that you have noticed something about me does not sound pragmatic. You need to stay on a thought and finish it instead of pivoting. We are not here to compete, it is called a public forum. You express yourself and give way for others too and that is a decorum. If we cannot act like Christians, at least we need to be civilized.

Should all of these still stop you from addressing the points I raised in that post of mine?

Why not addressed them?

alBHAGDADI:
Having a website that those hostile countries can access doesn't equate to you being on ground. Apostle Paul had no website, yet he approached difficult terrains to preach.

You claim JW are in every country except 3. Pls, give us addresses of their kingdom halls, especially in saudi arabia and pakistan. You claim you don't want your kingdom hall burnt that's why you don't go there. Do you know the amount of Churches that get burnt in the middle east all the time, especially during Christian festive periods? Has that stopped those Christians from building more?

As per the bolded, I sincerely bless God for your wisdom and intelligence.
During my service year in the North East a Sharia riot happened in the village I did my primary assignment. An ECWA church which was built from foundation to roof within three months of my arrival there got completely burnt down by the pro-Sharia rioters. But I was astonished when it did not take the congregation up to two months to build it back to a more beautiful state and more sophisticated plan, and they continued to run their weekly activities as if nothing happened. I was not a member of ECWA but I was so impressed by their commitment that till I left there I began to attend ECWA and my own denomination alternately. So why would a serious Christian group fear to explore hostile terrains for fear of their buildings being burnt down when Jesus asked us to rejoice when such happens?

oteneaaron:
No offence bruh, but you're confusing yourself. Try and read thru my words carefully. The math is an easy one.

Cheers.

He didn't get your post confused. Rather, you are the one lying that a Bible passage said what it didn't say. Someone requested for a Biblical backing of the house to house preaching practiced by JW. You quoted a verse that spoke of town, claiming the verse spoke of house instead. That's a blatant lie, perhaps out of ignorance. It's all funny how you turned around to say he didn't understand your post. He didn't understand the lie?

oteneaaron:
No offence bruh, but you're confusing yourself. Try and read thru my words carefully. The math is an easy one.

Cheers.

It is obvious you no longer have any superior argument to counter the points I have raised. So Shalom!

Are you laughing? I only asked a question. You suddenly seem out of touch with your own core values or beliefs. I want to learn from you and that is why I am asking. I have read your comments already, Sir. I want to know from you, an independent worshipper. You do not go by any organized setting but Jesus' command. So, would you want that respected or denigrated?

oteneaaron:
Hahahaha, cut and join conclusion.

Typical.

You ask if I would want "my" views to be respected or not. You never asked about Jesus's view.

All you're planning to get at is why my thinking of not been part of any organization and still be eligible for salvation is awfully wrong, right??

Go back and read my words, carefully.

Here is how your argument would pan out. ...

Jesus's view supports an earthly organization, moreso he talked about a faithful slave given ownership among his belongings(but you'll forget he said the slave would get the belongings when the master arrives not before), JW are the true organization, and survival depends solely on been part of your brotherhood.

But maybe I'm wrong.

Stop cutting and joining my words bro.

Cheers.

There is no doubt that jw preach everywhere. it is their trademark. Other religions preach but not aggressive as jehovah witnesses. The use every means to preach. but your topic is deviating from the people preaching to who are the ones preaching in non Christian land. Your write up is biased

Emmanystone:
May be you should give tell us how many Kingdom Halls of the JW that are in these places. Shey you how cburches are being burnt and Christians killed in Afganistan and Pakistan, Egypt and the rest? How many are Jw kingdom Halls?

Thank you. Boko Haram bombed so many churches in Nigeria while they had a field day in their war against Christianity. How many of their victim churches were JWs' kingdom Halls? None! Does that not even seem to suggest that JWs were not really a spiritual threat to Antichrist organizations?

You are consumed by hatred and that is eating you up. If you sincerely want a conversation, JW welcome it. Personally, I encourage people who find delight in reading the scriptures. I will advise that you rest your heart for now. You might not realize it but you have exceeded the limit already. A wise man knows when to seek shelter from the sun. It appears to you like you are fighting a war, literally with your own self. No JW is willing to go the lent that you desire in your heart. It is not a physical battle, bro.

You can call yourself a Hero for today.

Go in your private, shut your door and pray to God for forgiveness. You have done enough. This is not the preaching that Jesus advised us to do. It would be wise to use the scriptures to explain your point of view next time. I understand your pain but do not take it too seriously.

alBHAGDADI:
Should all of these still stop you from addressing the points I raised in that post of mine?

Why not addressed them?

Prosthuks:
Ignorance is indeed bad. You know nothing about JW. Open your eye and see

The churches of Asia greet you, especially Aquila and Priscilla greet you much in the Lord, along with the church that is in their house." I Cor 16:19.

Greet the brethren in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in her house." Col 4:15.

Greet Priscilla[c] and Aquila, my co-workers in Christ Jesus. 4 They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them.
5 Greet also the church that meets at their house.
Greet my dear friend Epenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in the province of Asia. Romans 16:3-5


Acts 28: 30 and 31
30 For two whole years Paul stayed there in his own rented house and welcomed all who came to see him. 31 He proclaimed the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ—with all boldness and without hindrance!



46. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,
47
praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. Acts 2:46&47


Acts20:17-20
17 From Miletus, Paul sent to Ephesus for the elders of the church. 18 When they arrived, he said to them: “You know how I lived the whole time I was with you, from the first day I came into the province of Asia. 19 I served the Lord with great humility and with tears and in the midst of severe testing by the plots of my Jewish opponents. 20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house

The early Christians met in houses , the churches were in people's houses. The apostles taught openly in temple courts and broke bread in their homes, people who were hungry for God's word even had to come to Paul's house and he taught them. Jesus commanded the 72 not to go from house to house. I believe the early Christians went from church to church to preach and also preached in public places.

I don't know where your religion got the idea that going from house to house of people they consider unbelievers is the only way Jesus said preaching should be done or sitting behind or beside a magazine cart waiting for people to come look at your magazine means public preaching.

You shouldn't go unannounced to people's houses and force them to listen to your message and once they don't listen or send you out, you start crying persecution so as to continously fuel your conceited idea that you are the only ones doing the preaching work Jesus commanded his apostles to do. The early Christians did not do things this way.

paulpery:
There is no doubt that jw preach everywhere. it is their trademark. Other religions preach but not aggressive as jehovah witnesses. The use every means to preach. but your topic is deviating from the people preaching to who are the ones preaching in non Christian land. Your write up is biased

The standards by which you have obviously adjudged your mode of preaching as aggressive actually have no place in the Bible but are rather man made.

removetheturban:
You are consumed by hatred and that is eating you up. If you sincerely want a conversation, JW welcome it. Personally, I encourage people who find delight in reading the scriptures. I will advise that you rest your heart for now. You might not realize it but you have exceeded the limit already. A wise man knows when to seek shelter from the sun. It appears to you like you are fighting a war, literally with your own self. No JW is willing to go the lent that you desire in your heart. It is not a physical battle, bro.

You can call yourself a Hero for today.

Go in your private, shut your door and pray to God for forgiveness. You have done enough. This is not the preaching that Jesus advised us to do. It would be wise to use the scriptures to explain your point of view next time. I understand your pain but do not take it too seriously.

You love shutting people up and threatening them for their contrary views. FYI this is not imaginary paradise earth where only the Governing body's view is allowed. This is the real and present earth where all views are allowed.

Matthewdan:
The only thing I see in this house to house preaching done by JWs is that it brings them money, which is why watchtower is one of the wealthiest religious organizations on earth. sharrap!!! How much have u given to jw to support their activities


they have the most quality magazines,
while ur religion spend money on massions called church.... jw spend money on magazine for d world they source their anonymous contributors mostly frm d organisation. I never wanted to talk on this. But one thing still remain a fact '' d JW's are doing it better than any religion on earth ''..... I hope to join them soon

They had money to build Warwick. They got money from the sale of their old headquarters which their members built free of charge.
Money that they guilt trip people into donating. Mtchewww