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Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by shaykhalislaam(m): 7:03am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Evidence for the validity of Islam Praise be to Allah The evidence for the validity of Islam and the truthfulness of the Prophethood of the Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) is abundant and can hardly be enumerated. This evidence is sufficient to convince any wise and fair-minded person who is impartially and sincerely seeking the truth. We can sum up some of this proof as follows. 1. The evidence of sound human nature The call of Islam is in accordance with sound human nature, as is indicated by the words of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted (interpretation of the meaning): “So set you (O Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)) your face towards the religion of pure Islamic Monotheism Hanifa (worship none but Allah Alone) Allah’s Fitrah (i.e. Allah’s Islamic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalqillah (i.e. the Religion of Allah Islamic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not” [ar-Room 30:30]. And the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “There is no child who is not born in a state of fitrah, then his parents make him a Jew or a Christian or a Magian, just as animals bring forth animals with their limbs intact, do you see any deformed one among them?” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1358) and Muslim (2658). The words “animals bring forth animals with their limbs intact” mean: just as an animal is born with its limbs intact and free of defects; anything that happens to it of cuts to its ears and so on happens after it is born. Similarly, every human is born with an inherent inclination towards Islam, and any deviation from Islam is undoubtedly a departure from sound human nature. Therefore we never find anything in the teachings of Islam that is contrary to sound human nature. Rather all of its teachings on beliefs and practical matters are in accordance with sound human nature. As for religions and ideologies other than Islam, they include things that are contrary to sound human nature. This is something that is quite clear and apparent to anyone who reflects and ponders. 2. Rational evidence There are many Islamic texts that address reason and direct people to examine the rational proof and evidence, and call upon people of sound reasoning and mature thinking to examine the definitive evidence for the soundness of Islam. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “(This is) a Book (the Qur’an) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember” [Saad 38:29]. Al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad said concerning the miraculous aspects of the Qur’an: In it you will see that there is an explanation of a set of divine laws; it mentions the way of proof based on reason, presents arguments against the misguided followers of different religions and sects, and argues against them on the basis of strong and clear proof, using very easy and concise language. Those who pretend to be clever tried to come up with proof and evidence like that, but they were not able to do so. End quote from ash-Shifa (1/390) The texts of the revelation do not contain anything that is impossible according to rational thinking or that would be rejected by reason, and the texts never presented an argument that contradicts reason or contradicts any analogy based on rational thinking. Rather the proponents of falsehood never presented any analogy to support their falsehood but the Qur’an refuted it on the basis of truth and an argument that is based on clear reason. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And no example or similitude do they bring (to oppose or to find fault in you or in this Qur’an), but We reveal to you the truth (against that similitude or example), and the better explanation thereof” [al-Furqaan 25:33]. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Here Allah, may He be glorified, tells us that the disbelievers do not produce any rational argument to support their falsehood but He refutes it on the basis of truth, and presents arguments and evidence and examples that offer a better explanation thereof, are more convincing and give a clearer explanation of the truth than their argument and analogy. End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (4/106) One of the examples of rational evidence in the Qur’an is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “Do they not then consider the Qur’an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradiction” [an-Nisa’ 4:82]. In Tafseer al-Qurtubi it says: There is no one who speaks a great deal but you will find a lot of contradiction in his words, either in the presentation and wording, or in the meaning, or you will find discrepancies, or there will be untruths. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, sent down the Qur’an and instructed them to reflect on it, because they will not find in it any discrepancies in the presentation of ideas, or any flaws in what it promotes, or any contradiction, or any lies in what they are told of matters of the unseen and what they conceal. End quote from al-Jaami‘ li Ahkaam al-Qur’an (5/290) Ibn Katheer said: That is, if it were fabricated and made up, as the ignorant polytheists and hypocrites said to themselves, “they would surely have found therein much contradiction” that is, many flaws and discrepancies. In other words, this Book is free of discrepancies and contradictions, therefore it is from Allah. End quote from Tafseer al-Qur’an al-‘Azeem (1/802) 3. Miracles and signs of Prophethood Allah, may He be exalted, supported His noble Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) with numerous miracles and tangible signs that pointed to the truthfulness of his Prophethood and the soundness of his message, such as the splitting of the moon for him, the glorification of Allah by food and pebbles in front of him, the springing forth of water from between his fingers, the increasing of food, and other miracles and signs that were seen and witnessed by huge numbers of people, and have been transmitted to us via saheeh isnaads (sound chains of narration) that reach the level of tawaatur. This gives rise to certainty. An example of that is that which is narrated in a saheeh report from ‘Abdullah ibn Mas‘ood, that he said: We were with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) on a journey and our supply of water ran low. He said: “Bring me a little leftover water.” So they brought a vessel in which there was a little water. He put his hand in the vessel, then said: “Come to a blessed, purifying water; and the blessing is from Allah.” And I saw the water springing from between the fingers of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). And we used to hear the food glorifying Allah as it was being eaten. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3579) 4. Prophecies What is meant by prophecies here is what the revelation foretold of matters and events that would happen in the future, whether that was during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) or after his death. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) never foretold anything that would happen in the future, but it would happen exactly as he foretold. This indicates that Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, had revealed and disclosed to him some matters of unseen knowledge that could not be attained except by means of revelation. One example of that is the report narrated by Abu Hurayrah, that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until a fire emerges in the land of the Hijaz which will illuminate the necks of the camels in Busra.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7118) and Muslim (2902). And it happened exactly as the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) had foretold, in 654 AH – approximately 644 years after his death. This was mentioned by historians, including al-‘Allaamah Abu Shaamah al-Maqdisi, in his book Dhayl ar-Rawdatayn. He was one of the scholars who lived at the time of this historical incident. It was also mentioned by al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer in al-Bidaayah wa’n-Nihaayah (13/219), where he said: Then the year 654 AH began, in which there appeared fire in the land of the Hijaz by which the necks of the camels in Busra were illuminated, as it says in the agreed-upon hadith. Shaykh al-‘Allaamah al-Haafiz Shihaab ad-Deen Abu Shaamah al-Maqdisi spoke at length about that in his adh-Dhayl wa Sharhuhu, based on many letters that came to Damascus from the Hijaz, describing that fire that had been witnessed and seen, and how it emerged, and the story thereof. To sum up what Abu Shaamah said: Letters came to Damascus from the Prophet’s City – may the best of blessings and peace be upon its inhabitant – speaking of the emergence of a fire in their land on 5th Jumaada al-Aakhirah this year. The letters were written on 5th Rajab, when the fire was still burning, and they reached us on 10th Sha‘baan. Then he said: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. At the beginning of Sha‘baan 654 AH, letters came to the city of Damascus from the city of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) describing a significant event that occurred there, in which there was confirmation of the hadith of Abu Hurayrah in as-Saheehayn, who said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until a fire emerges in the land of the Hijaz which will illuminate the necks of the camels in Busra.” Someone whom I trust from among those who saw it told me that he heard that in Tayma’ letters had been written by its light. He said: We were in our houses during those nights, and in the house of each one of us it was as if there was a lamp, but it had no heat and did not burn, despite its greatness; rather it was one of the signs of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted. End quote. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by mitchyy(f): 7:04am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: You have been noticed. Good morning! |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by mitchyy(f): 7:07am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Now its no longer the fact that we preach that is an issue, its the bag we carry? A bag? You have been noticed! |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 7:10am On Feb 12, 2018 |
mitchyy: That is an escapist route away from the challenge you have been confronted with here. How does this kind of response address the numerous questions placed before you here? We are asking you these questions not to be noticed but to learn from you since you claim you alone are God approved. Are we the children of the devil wrong to want to learn from the true children of God like you? 1 Like |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 7:13am On Feb 12, 2018 |
mitchyy: The manner in which the preaching is done is the very issue of this thread, and the carrying of bags and magazines from house to house is part of it. Please address the questions raised. 1 Like |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by mitchyy(f): 7:19am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: No. I won't address any question raised. Why? I am not at your beck and call. A lot of pages have been dedicated to this issue and lots of fellow witnesses have said all that needs to be said. Secondly, this is Monday. A lot of witnesses are not jobless. If this comment leaves behind me a trail of attacks from you and others, you still won't get a response from me because I'll be busy attending to my family and business |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by DavidEsq(m): 7:20am On Feb 12, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Since u now admit that preaching work goes on in doz countries, the only issue u have is d supposed failure to establish a church in doz places, shebi? Well, I guess preaching being the crux of d means of spreading the gospel is the underlying ish. That being so, ur grouse is neither here nor there. This is because there are a whole lot of churches with just one building. No other branch anywhere. E.g SCAN, Word of life bible church (the Omo Jesus piece pastor), etc. Their failure to establish a branch in neighbouring cities which are very accommodating has no root in fear of losing their buildings to hostility. Like I said b4, which I believe u failed to see, probably due to too much huffing and puffing, there is onland preaching in doz places o! Hear word o! Only that it is discreet o! |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 7:44am On Feb 12, 2018 |
mitchyy: Written publications can't answer the question that arise in the mind after reading the publications hence a direct face to face interaction is indispensable. Much as there was existing collection of written scripture in Christ's time on earth he still took time to orally answer questions about God and did not just redirect all questions to those written scriptures? Why then do you direct me not even to the Bible but to mere literature of magazines and publications subject to error by virtue of their human authorship? Well, Jesus was so much at the beck and call of everyone that He cut short His sleep to answer Nicodemus' questions, frequently denied Himself rest to attend to as many as came to him for spiritual education, etc. It is not recorded anywhere in the Bible that he told anyone he was too busy to answer his questions however silly or unnecessary such questions might be. Why then are members of our God-approved organization telling people off with excuses of being busy, and calling such questions attacks? The truth is that you really got no answer. After all you had earlier shoved off my question by implicitly alleging me of seeking to be noticed. Peace be unto you all the same! |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by mitchyy(f): 8:05am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: If you that is what you believe, peace unto you as well my friend I couldn't resist one last comment |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 8:31am On Feb 12, 2018 |
mitchyy: I thought you said you were not at my beck and call? Oh I can see it only applies to the questions I raise about your doctrines. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Emmanystone: 9:14am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth:My dear, this is the question i have been asking. Where are the JW who claim they are the real Christians when fake Christians are being killed by Muslims? JW don't dare take their kingdom arguments to the places where they will be killed. Their evangelism is amongst the Christians not the unbeliever. Pls, Jw, just like the Die Heart Evangelicals, take your message to places that must hear it whether satan likes it or not. Oh wait!!!!!, they can't can't face satan. This is a display of boldness and courage on the part of the Evangelicals and fear and timidity on the part of the JW, and this kind of boldness that makes a man still want to go knowing he can be killed comes only from having the Holy Spirit inside of him. But, the JW doesn't believe that the Holy Spirit is still at work in us today. No wonder they wait for the storm to cool down before going out. Christians be careful of the JW. 1 Like |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Nobody: 9:26am On Feb 12, 2018 |
I only asked a question that required a simple Bible verse. Even if I didn't know it, I could easily search for it whereas it is a very popular Bible verse. There are many reasons for asking questions. I feel that Christians should quote from the Bible and not insinuate things from their own thoughts. Jehovah's Witnesses endeavour to make citations from the Bible at all times. It is appalling to read a whole chapter of criticism from you without a single scripture cited. I didn't consider that alright and I feel better that you are using your Bible now. I advise you to continue doing what you just did in this comment. It will make you a sound Christian. In the other vein, it is an honour to refer you to the second of my questions. You went along denigrating the JW and forgot to answer it. What aspect of the Mormonic doctrines do you find most intriguing? Can you answer, please? Deadlytruth: |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by switnpea: 9:26am On Feb 12, 2018 |
I don't have time to talk to you about this!! Maybe the next time they knock at your door try to listen. It's very very important. I hope you remember this expression someday, and wish you had. Peace bro Deadlytruth: 1 Like |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Nobody: 9:33am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Sane people say 'when they go low, we go high'. If you intend to stay low, it has no connection with the world. If you chose to be bitter about yourself, the world does not revolve around you. Regardless of the intensity that you desire to achieve with this, futility awaits you in the end. Proverbs 4:16 King James Bible For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. Deadlytruth: |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Nobody: 9:35am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Is the Holy Spirit at work in you? Emmanystone: |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Nobody: 9:41am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Probably, not! Educate me, please. What is blasphemy? We do not equate ourselves with God and his Holy Spirit. We believe that we are Jehovah God's creation and that we are empowered by his Holy Spirit. John 14:16 New International Version And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever So, we believe that all we have achieved in our ministry is not our power but the influence of Jehovah and his provisions through his son, Jesus Christ. We are mere mortals, full of sins and cannot compare to God. Deadlytruth: |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Nobody: 10:26am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Well, Jesus told the Pharisees that no sign will be given them unless the sign of Jonah and that sign was at his death Matthew 12:39. They kept seeking miracles and they were insatiable because their hearts were corrupted. Not that they did not witness the miracles that Jesus performed, they did. They kept on asking for something beyond what is needed and if Jesus had given them a sign, they would have asked for more. He is seeking to know about the JW activities in Saudi Arabia after blaspheming and denigrating the JW. He opened a thread, denigrated the JW and made an unconstructive conclusion. Afterwards, he summoned his colleagues to a smear-the-JW feast. Then, subtly he asks a snaring question just like the serpent did to Eve. That is a decoy, bro. You do not respond to a question of that sort. It is a waste of time and energy. I would want to believe that we are educated individuals here. When you meet a sincere or curious mind, the explanation becomes easy. Literally, JW do not attack or engage in debates. It is not by force to hear our message. If one is unresponsive, we will leave that one alone. We are not JW for the interest of proving a point to any mortal man. We are on an assignment that Jesus gave us and he gave us a guide as to how to carry the assignment. I am not here to make negative minds feel better. I bet the people you study with have the same answer as mine. Ever8054: |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 10:43am On Feb 12, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Had a single Kingdom Hall been attacked by Boko Haram, the JWs would have repeatedly made it headlines in their magazines as evidence of persecution of the "true religion", and be accusing Christendom. But here we are with the victim Christian churches not even making any issues out of the attacks because they know that persecution should normally be expected as Christ had forewarned them. The other denominations secretly rejoice to find themselves worthy of persecution and tribulations for Christ while JWs resent and cry against in through every means available to them. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 11:16am On Feb 12, 2018 |
removetheturban: Below is how you accused him of blasphemy for accusing your organization of dishonest financial dealings which now prompted me to ask when you became God or the Holy Spirit against whom an accusation constitutes blasphemy. See the conversation below: by removetheturban : 10:23pm On Feb 11 Do you want them to give the money to you? Why are you envious of someone success. one pastor says "control your jealousy'. Do you think that he is right? Hairyrapunzel : They had money to build Warwick. They got money from the sale of their old headquarters which their members built free of charge. Money that they guilt trip people into donating. Mtchewww Where did you get the blasphemy in the bolded? |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 11:23am On Feb 12, 2018 |
removetheturban: Your proverb above actually applies more to you as you are the ones who have chosen to stay low in envious bitterness of other Christians by always attacking them both in your publications and oral sermons. Can you show me just one publication in which any other Christian denomination has ever attacked JW? You can't find one! So judge for yourself who has decided to remain low. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 11:33am On Feb 12, 2018 |
switnpea: It is rather surprising that after taking my time out to make it clear here the several instances in which I listened to JWs and then asked them questions which rather than give scripture-backed answers to they stopped visiting me, you still choose to advise me to listen to them the next time they come to me. Don't you get it that I mean they are no longer coming? How is it possible to listen to a people avoiding me for my questions they have no answer to? You should rather advise them to answer my questions whenever next they come if you yourself can't answer me here. You people boast of 100℅ reliance on the Bible for your beliefs, but I have shown you explicit biblical references which stand clearly against some of your beliefs, but rather than show me other Bible verses to counter mine you are asking me to listen to a people that I have no hope of seeing. Then why did I bring my questions here? |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Jeremiah0nos: 11:46am On Feb 12, 2018 |
removetheturban: But then here you are, in a public forum engaging in a debate. If you are already aware that certain people (apostates) are in a forum online and they bring reproach against your organization, is debating and arguing really the right thing to do? Will engaging with them bring honour or reproach on Gods name? What progress have you made so far with your continuous reply? Have they changed their view about us? These are questions you seriously need to consider. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Deadlytruth(m): 11:47am On Feb 12, 2018 |
removetheturban: As per the bolded, I can see that you are plain dishonest and untruthful. How could you so accuse me when I quoted Mathew 7:5 in the very comment for which you accuse me of not citing any Bible verse? You have been dodging questions here and attacking persons instead. What sort of Christianity is that? And after throwing all the jibes you still ended up not addressing the very issue I raised and used that Mathew 7:15 as a backup up. Are we supposed to be this dubious and evasive as Christians? As per the issue of Mormonism; your question is another dishonest deviation from the original issue raised. You were asked whether the Mormons' house to house preaching mode also qualifies them as the only God approved organization since that is the criterion according to your organization. But rather than address the issue squarely, you tried to change the topic to "the most intriguing aspect of Mormonism". How is that related to the question he asked you? Why are you so evasive? |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by Nobody: 11:53am On Feb 12, 2018 |
I really want you to find peace with yourself. The world is full of so much evil and inequity and we cannot help it. The Bible in Philippians 4:6 New International Version Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. I urge you to devote your time to things that are upbuilding and beneficial. Being in a vengeful spirit during productive hours in Nigeria is counted as a victory for the devil. Are you letting the devil get in your way? Romans 14:19 New International Version Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. Are you in a vengeful spirit on the second day after all that you did yesterday? Bro, it is a new day. After all said yesterday, give time for the spirit of God to permeate your mind. Ecclesiastes 3:1 There is a time for ... every activity under the heavens: Are you giving time to prioritize what matters most in your life? https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/WebHomeSlider/pub-jwb_201802_1_VIDEO The above is the JW video for the month of February. It gives us reminders as to how to use our time wisely. Romans 12:19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends (Deadlytruth), but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. Being vengeful means giving up your faith and trust in God and believing that you have the power to make the changes that you desire. Relax and be in good spirit, it is a new day. Deadlytruth: |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by nans24: 12:22pm On Feb 12, 2018 |
removetheturban: Surprising!!! This is the same advice a young witness lady was given by a group of elders when she told them she wants to report to the police that she had been molested by an elder. For those who dont know, Witnesses do not report child abuse cases to the police. They are told by their Governing body (8 old men in warwick) to handle such matter internally. This has resulted in them ( The organization) losing numerous child abuse court cases. Just make a quick search on google to see them. If you become a Jehovah's witness today, and one of their members abuse or molest you.. the elders will warn you "Do not report to the police"!. Then they will open their bible and read Romans 12:19 for you. If you do report to the police, they will disfellowship you. The offender who is obviously mentally sick, will b disfellowshiped and then after a while brought back into the congregation. What a nice Organization. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by mitchyy(f): 12:25pm On Feb 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Deadlytruth: I'm not at your beck and call because I choose when to respond to you and how much time I spend doing so. If this is how you speak with witnesses who visit you, I'm not shellshocked they stopped coming. You are not asking questions to be informed. Be truthful to yourself. All I see is accusations, sarcasm and statements laced with untruth. Those who are asking to know, are not hard to spot. You said we are being discouraged from engaging in personal study, which to me is the biggest boldfaced lie I've ever read here about us. My God! When anyone who attends our meetings know how much we hammer on engaging in deep personal study? Bro, why? Do you have to go that far in your campaign against witnesses? Those engaging you in discussions here are just wasting their time to be honest, me inclusive. 1 Like |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by nans24: 12:31pm On Feb 12, 2018 |
Jeremiah0nos: Lmao! Apostates indeed. please leave your fellow brother @removetheturban alone. He is enjoying the debate despite his clown-like replies. I guess its not everything that the 8 old men in warwick say that he obeys. |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by mitchyy(f): 12:31pm On Feb 12, 2018 |
nans24: Another fresh set of lies just to steer the public towards more hatred for witnesses. Its just laughable that someone who is abused who is supposed to be the victim, will then be disfellowshipped. Who does that? Were you disfellowshipped for a wrongdoing, hence your grouse? Just be honest 1 Like |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by alBHAGDADI: 12:38pm On Feb 12, 2018 |
DavidEsq:I never admitted that you preach in those countries. Read my post again. How can you boldly preach from house to house in countries where you are afraid of building kingdom halls? Don't you think the thing you are scared of will still get you especially when you go from house to house? |
Re: Examining Talk That Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Only Ones Preaching Out There by nans24: 12:47pm On Feb 12, 2018 |
mitchyy: Lies?! So you seriously dont know what is going on in your own organization? You are not aware of the millions of dollars the watchtower society has paid to victims of abuse? And you are not aware that the Australian royal commission invited one of the members of your governing body , questioning him on why they do not allow child abuse victims report to the police. Am not surprised tho. So many witnesses dont know about the child abuse issues going on in their organization. Only the elders do. And they are told to keep their mouth shut. I will not spoon feed you. Make a quick search on Google to enlighten yourself. And dont worry, the website that will enlighten you are not "apostate" sites. They are well known reputable news websites. Cheers. |
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