look carefully..... all the feminist wanna bee ladies are no longer viewing the thread. ..they're deceiving theirselves not me.

Ivorianaija:


An interesting theory that my close Nigerian friend had explained to me was that, when you grow up in a society where you are taught that the man is the sole provider of the family you keep that mentality. Then, times start to change but that mentality is still there. You know that you can be financially independent but you don't want to.

. That's the hypocrisy we are talking about. So they can easily adjust themselves to be called feminists, but found it difficult to change their mentality in respect of finance? So how do we reconcile the two?

Prechbills:



equal responsibilities is why most Nigerian women are scared of feminism. as long as that clause is a feminist agenda married naija women will continue to reject feminism because they're lazy.

whenever you ask this question, the so called feminists wannabees on nairaland will immediately stop viewing the thread or they'll skip your question

. Simply a case of they want to eat their cake and still have it,lol

JONNYSPUTE:
. That's the hypocrisy we are talking about. So they can easily adjust themselves to be called feminists, but found it difficult to change their mentality in respect of finance? So how do we reconcile the two?

The proper response would be to try and unteach yourself the mentalities that you're taught, when you realize that they are wrong or a bit fishy, but some Nigerian women aren't willing to change because they see a benefit.

Klinee:
Every gender is equal, and I can't stop anybody from aspiring to his or her epitome of achievement just because of his or her gender, but most times women gatt nothing to offer except sex. That's just the truth of life

once naija women can achieve equal responsibilities

domestic abuse
sexual harassment
rape

and other shiits will cease to exist in Nigeria.

no sensible guy can beat his gf or wife when the lady is independent ,when he does the lady would leave but presently naija girls and women are ready to die in that relationship or marriage as long as they are getting something in return.


sexual harrassment

when you're rich, who wanna harass you? except you're using it for blackmail


how many rich ladies have been raped in this country?

reinefarine I wonder why you're viewing this thread but refuse to comment.. I repeat you guys are confused

Prechbills:



once naija women can achieve equal responsibilities

domestic abuse
sexual harassment
rape

and other shiits will cease to exist in Nigeria.

no sensible guy can beat his gf or wife when the lady is independent ,when he does the lady would leave but presently naija girls and women are ready to die in that relationship or marriage as long as they are getting something in return.


sexual harrassment

when you're rich, who wanna harass you? except you're using it for blackmail


how many rich ladies have been raped in this country?

Rape builds off of having a general disrespect, and disregard for that person. Also, remember that rape can happen between spouses which is rarely mentioned.

Ivorianaija:


The proper response would be to try and unteach yourself the mentalities that you're taught, when you realize that they are wrong or a bit fishy, but some Nigerian women aren't willing to change because they see a benefit.

. Thank you very much. So who are they deceiving? The men or themselves. No man will take them serious until they themselves proves to the man or men that they are ready to accept feminism with all the does and donts that are enshrined in it. You can claim to be a driver when you don't know what gear is.

ReinaFarine:


I am trying ignore you. Please, leave me alone na?
Ah han?


PS: I won't vote because of gender. I will vote for ability. What you aim to achieve and how determines if you get my vote or not.

it's good you're ignoring me because if you try to engage me I'm gonna disgrace you brutally in a way that you'll never speak about your non existence feminism ideology again on nairaland. just test my intelligence ,you've been claiming victim feminist ever since, nonsense.

JONNYSPUTE:
. Thank you very much. So who are they deceiving? The men or themselves. No man will take them serious until they themselves proves to the man or men that they are ready to accept feminism with all the does and don'ts that are enshrined in it. You can claim to be a driver when you don't know what gear is.

But see, here is where men come to play a part in this cycle. Women are taught this mentality but what is encouraging it, why can't men just stop giving their time to women who can't support themselves? Some men like it when their wife or girlfriend depends on them because it reassures their power. This is what comes with mentality. Men are taught from a young age that they are supposed to be providers and do things for women.

Another thing I am going to write on is this dumb thing called submission.
And why people misuse the word.
It's gonna be fire.
Watch out

Ivorianaija:


Rape builds off of having a general disrespect, and disregard for that person. Also, remember that rape can happen between spouses which is rarely mentioned.

only the erasing of the bride price culture can stop domestic rape. as long as naija men keep paying for bride price, and sponsoring marriage and other shiits, after all those resources wasted the lady will be disrespecting him or refusing to have sex, when the man remembers everything he spent just to have her.. he'd have no option but to use force

OriakuAmara:
Another thing I am going to write on is this dumb thing called submission.
And why people misuse the word.
It's gonna be fire.
Watch out

.read my post below and you'll understand

OriakuAmara:
Another thing I am going to write on is this dumb thing called submission.
And why people misuse the word.
It's gonna be fire.
Watch out

Women, specifically in Africa as a whole, are taught to submit from a young age. They must learn to cook, so that their husband can eat, they are taught that their husband is the head of the house and you go with what he says. When times start to change it's difficult to forget what you are taught.

JONNYSPUTE:
Why is it that in Nigeria,the feminists wants equal opportunities, equal rights but once you mention equal responsibilities, they all avoid it,is there anything they are not telling us? Until any of them clear me on this,I won't take them serious.

Generalization is a little unbecoming of you. I advocate equal responsibility. You are not entitled to a man's money just because you are his woman. If he chooses not to give you a dime, it doesn't make him less a man.

Similarly, you are not entitled to a woman's domestic duties because you are her man. If she chooses to not do some chores because they are inconvenient to her as a career woman and a mother, it doesn't make her less a woman.


I do believe in Joint couples account for MARRIED PEOPLE. That is, if the man earns #20 and the woman #20, they should contribute #10 each and deposit it in the Joint account which is then used for the family upkeep.


Choice.

If you like collecting money from a man, then it is advisable you stick to men that like doling out wads of cash to their women.

If you like a woman that does all the chores, stick to the kind of woman that find s pleasure in making the house a home for her man.

Don't force a man that loves independent women to give you cash. Don't force a career lady into a housewife.

If your wife wants to contribute her widow's mite to the family upkeep, don't insult or mock her. Don't say what will you #20,000 do for me when I earn #2,000,000.

If your husband wants to help in the kitchen, don't insult his cooking approach. Don't castigate his efforts. You might be a perfectionist, but help him feel wanted. Mae him a part of what you do.

PS: Although rare in this part of the world, there are women that have no problem doling out cash to their spouse as he take care of the home while her business kicks off.

all the so called feminists have ran away from the thread. lmao

you want equal opportunity, equal representation and other shiits yet you guys run away when you hear equal responsibilities because it means equal financial responsibilities..


lazy frustrated dugs claiming feminists.. naijs feminists only exist on nairaland, twitter and instagram.

OriakuAmara:
Another thing I am going to write on is this dumb thing called submission.
And why people misuse the word.
It's gonna be fire.
Watch out

This lady sha

This isn't a season film

Prechbills:
all the so called feminists have ran away from the thread. lmao

you want equal opportunity, equal representation and other shiits yet you guys run away when you hear equal responsibilities because it means equal financial responsibilities..


lazy frustrated dugs claiming feminists.. naijs feminists only exist on nairaland, twitter and instagram.

Like I've been saying this whole time: Nigerian/African women are taught certain things therefore, even though times may change they still keep those same mentalities.

ReinaFarine:


Generalization is a little unbecoming of you. I advocate equal responsibility. You are not entitled to a man's money just because you are his woman. If he chooses not to give you a dime, it doesn't make him less a man.

Similarly, you are not entitled to a woman's domestic duties because you are her man. If she chooses to not do some chores because they are inconvenient to her as a career woman and a mother, it doesn't make her less a woman.


I do believe in Joint couples account for MARRIED PEOPLE. That is, if the man earns #20 and the woman #20, they should contribute #10 each and deposit it in the Joint account which is then used for the family upkeep.


Choice.

If you like collecting money from a man, then it is advisable you stick to men that like doling out wads of cash to their women.

If you like a woman that does all the chores, stick to the kind of woman that find s pleasure in making the house a home for her man.

Don't force a man that loves independent women to give you cash. Don't force a career lady into a housewife.

If your wife wants to contribute her widow's mite to the family upkeep, don't insult or mock her. Don't say what will you #20,000 do for me when I earn #2,000,000.

If your husband wants to help in the kitchen, don't insult his cooking approach. Don't castigate his efforts. You might be a perfectionist, but help him feel wanted. Mae him a part of what you do.

PS: Although rare in this part of the world, there are women that have no problem doling out cash to their spouse as he take care of the home while her business kicks off.

a woman and a man can be working at the same time..


NB; every independent lady should have at least two kids before she starts working so that she won't have problems. when the kids get to 5years she can start work. contributing shouldn't be 50/50 it's not okay. it should be 60/40. or 65/35.and not lesser than that.


you understand me now?

greiboy:
This lady sha

This isn't a season film

she isn't a feminist, she knows that. she know the kind of people she can deceive

Ivorianaija:


But see, here is where men come to play a part in this cycle. Women are taught this mentality but what is encouraging it, why can't men just stop giving their time to women who can't support themselves? Some men like it when their wife or girlfriend depends on them because it reassures their power. This is what comes with mentality. Men are taught from a young age that they are supposed to be providers and do things for women.

. I agree with you 100%. But as a true feminists, one who really understood what is at stake,why is it that they dont want to change or talk about that aspect the way they are fighting for equal rights? They can as well tell the men,stuff like,look,I can take up my responsibilities while you take urs or simply ,let's share the responsibilities since we are equal. Can someone claim to be a celibate while still sleeping around? If they the Nigerian feminists don't want to change their mentalities in respect of equal responsibilities, then they ve not started.

Prechbills:



it's good you're ignoring me because if you try to engage me I'm gonna disgrace you brutally in a way that you'll never speak about your non existence feminism ideology again on nairaland. just test my intelligence ,you've been claiming victim feminist ever since, nonsense.

Bride price is one of those cultural practices that don't really benefit anything. It is not everything that our forefathers did that we must bring with us to the 21st century.

JONNYSPUTE:
. I agree with you 100%. But as a true feminists, one who really understood what is at stake,why is it that they dont want to change or talk about that aspect the way they are fighting for equal rights? They can as well tell the men,stuff like,look,I can take up my responsibilities while you take urs or simply ,let's share the responsibilities since we are equal. Can someone claim to be a celibate while still sleeping around? If they the Nigerian feminists don't want to change their mentalities in respect of equal responsibilities, then they ve not started.

It is pretty much a problem of "I may be able to say this but I this benefits me so I won't" and that is not real feminism.

Ivorianaija:


Women, specifically in Africa as a whole, are taught to submit from a young age. They must learn to cook, so that their husband can eat, they are taught that their husband is the head of the house and you go with what he says. When times start to change it's difficult to forget what you are taught.

women must cook for their husbands. but for the chores house helps should be employed don't hire an outsider cook she can poison the food. even in America 99% of the women are the ones doing the cookings, the guy can cook if he knows how to cook

Prechbills:



women must cook for their husbands. but for the chores house helps should be employed don't hire an outsider cook she can poison the food. even in America 99% of the women are the ones doing the cookings, the guy can cook if he knows how to cook

If you don't mind me asking: Why do you personally thing a woman should cook for her husband?

Ivorianaija:


Bride price is one of those cultural practices that don't really benefit anything. It is not everything that our forefathers did that we must bring with us to the 21st century.

bride price is the no. 1 cause of domestic abuse and domestic rape

back !!

ReinaFarine:


Generalization is a little unbecoming of you. I advocate equal responsibility. You are not entitled to a man's money just because you are his woman. If he chooses not to give you a dime, it doesn't make him less a man.

Similarly, you are not entitled to a woman's domestic duties because you are her man. If she chooses to not do some chores because they are inconvenient to her as a career woman and a mother, it doesn't make her less a woman.


I do believe in Joint couples account for MARRIED PEOPLE. That is, if the man earns #20 and the woman #20, they should contribute #10 each and deposit it in the Joint account which is then used for the family upkeep.


Choice.

If you like collecting money from a man, then it is advisable you stick to men that like doling out wads of cash to their women.

If you like a woman that does all the chores, stick to the kind of woman that find s pleasure in making the house a home for her man.

Don't force a man that loves independent women to give you cash. Don't force a career lady into a housewife.

If your wife wants to contribute her widow's mite to the family upkeep, don't insult or mock her. Don't say what will you #20,000 do for me when I earn #2,000,000.

If your husband wants to help in the kitchen, don't insult his cooking approach. Don't castigate his efforts. You might be a perfectionist, but help him feel wanted. Mae him a part of what you do.

PS: Although rare in this part of the world, there are women that have no problem doling out cash to their spouse as he take care of the home while her business kicks off.

. Hope you know that the implication of what you wrote is that any lady that still depend on a man for survival should not see herself as a feminist, right?

Prechbills:



she isn't a feminist, she knows that. she know the kind of people she can deceive

Amara like shuga are both trying to be feminists, but it takes more than dirty talk and a few knowledge of feminism to advocate on an open forum like nairaland.


I can call them sympathizers of the campaign. Nonetheless, they need to tone down the rhetoric and practice what they preach. They need to stop insulting non feminist women and focus on preaching true equality

Feminists is about advocacy, Advocacy involves action.

Talk is cheap.


Ps; I am not a feminist because I don't agree with everything it stands for

greiboy:
Amara like shuga are both trying to be feminists, but it takes more than dirty talk and a few knowledge of feminism to advocate on a open forum like nairaland.


I can call them sympathizers of the campaign. Nonetheless, they need to tone the rhetoric and practice what they preach. They need to stop insulting non feminist women and focus on preaching true equality

Feminists is about advocacy, Advocacy involves action.

Talk is cheap.


Ps; I am not a feminist because I don't agree with everything it stands for

It's okay if you're not a feminist as long as you know that you have a valid reason for it.

Ivorianaija:


It is pretty much a problem of "I may be able to say this but I this benefits me so I won't" and that is not real feminism.

. That's the issue. They know quite well that what they are practising is not true feminism, yet,they will insult anybody that tries to make them understand. And it only boils down to one thing which is HYPOCRISY.