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Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by vertueptime: 7:19pm On Mar 25, 2018
frank317:
what is the meaning of u have a calling? become a pastor in the church u are attending? must u start your own church? we already have enough church business with nothin to show for it. what effect will a new church have for Nigeria? why is God calling everybody yet no significant effect on the life of the people?
your wife knows u are fake and does not want u to join the league of scammers we already have in nigeria

U spoke my mind, potential scammer, fornicator is what he will likely become
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by nuele(m): 7:41pm On Mar 25, 2018
Any other ministry aside e ministry of reconciliation - Christ Ministry, is unknown.

Let me break it:

Any church outside "the church" is illegitimate.
Demzlent:



Yes I informed her,my parents are even aware. They are giving their moral and even material support for my ministry, the building we want to use is even given to me by my dad
One thing I noticed about my wife is that she loves our present Church so much
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Rubbiish(m): 8:32pm On Mar 25, 2018
Aboguede:


You are either a female or an evil man. What did that lady wrote that made you attacked in that way. By the way, I saw her pics and she is pretty.

Every body always have right to his/her opinion.

Be warned





@Bold U are funny... cheesy.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by toscolee(m): 8:51pm On Mar 25, 2018
Nairaland is not the place to bring up such a sensitive issue. If you can discern God's leading well enough to know that you have been called, then GO and wait on Him and hear what He has to say on the issue. Whenever you come on nairaland, do so with intention to stimulate your intellect. It may not be my business but I'm angry with you. People can go to any length to show off their 21st century, advanced and enlightened way of thinking here, and it's done even at the expense of the Lord. You did'nt act with wisdom.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by CioAngels(f): 8:59pm On Mar 25, 2018
What advise do you aside your wife's advise , you have a calling, who called you? Your knows you are only going to preach lies and deceive innocent Nigerians. Go look for better job to do and don't go the easy way of punishing people for tithe and offering to make money in the name of church.

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Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by toscolee(m): 9:04pm On Mar 25, 2018
obillyj:
It's one thing for u to have the call of God on you and it's another thing for you to start a church. Did God call you to start a church? Having a call does not literally translate to starting a church. Having a call does not mean being a pastor. 1Cor12:28.
It takes a lot to shepherd the flock. Have you considered that? Starting a church is exposing your wife n children to the warfront. Are they prepared for that? Is she ready to be the keeper of the flame?have u asked her what her reasons for objecting are rather than assume it's because she loves d present church. Starting a church is much ur work as it is hers. Have you acquired the necessary training to run a church? Who is your spiritual father? Who is your mentor? Have you spoken to them about this and they give you a go ahead? Have you served under someone faithfully as a pastor and d person let u go? Why can't you serve as a pastor in your present church?
hmmm.......nice one sister.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Freeze007(m): 9:08pm On Mar 25, 2018
frank317:
what is the meaning of u have a calling? become a pastor in the church u are attending? must u start your own church? we already have enough church business with nothin to show for it. what effect will a new church have for Nigeria? why is God calling everybody yet no significant effect on the life of the people?
your wife knows u are fake and does not want u to join the league of scammers we already have in nigeria


As a matter of fact, one TRULY called does not need to establish any other church just show forth fruits of the Spirit... others see and you encourage them to just be independently reliant on God alone.


Think about a world where, you stay in your house and talk to God while you maintain a Couture that portrays Christhood.

Everyone works on His talent for example, the economist who revers God, uses his talent to better the lots of her citizenry and continuing in research than wasting years on USELESS MINISTRIES without even a sordid foundation for welfare and pure love and obedience to Gods word.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by maestroferddi: 9:09pm On Mar 25, 2018
stagger:


My brother, God bless you for the bolded.
Must you join the horde atheists and nominal christians here to off at a tangent?

Your judgementality and legalism are wide off the mark.

Does God call? And the scripture-supported answer is YES.



I think the should do well to heed godly counsel as copiously given here which implies getting the spousal consent in line with First Tim. 3.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Eagba(m): 9:31pm On Mar 25, 2018
Demzlent:



Yes I informed her,my parents are even aware. They are giving their moral and even material support for my ministry, the building we want to use is even given to me by my dad
One thing I noticed about my wife is that she loves our present Church so much
let's face the truth, you are in for the money and fame. You know it, your wife knows it and your co planner knows it

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Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by akaahs(m): 9:36pm On Mar 25, 2018
Alexk2:
Why are you here asking nairalanders that is full is atheists and semi-atheist who are bench warmers in churches. How many people here do you think really understand or believe in been "called" to ministry by God?
I dont doubt people when they say they're called just like you're claiming but I'll always ask if they're very sure the call is indeed from God and to do what? For example, God can call you into ministry right in that same church that you're together with your wife and He can call you for a specific purpose that has nothing to do with you leaving your church in any way....at the same time the call can also be to separate yourself for a different ministry-"called out"...so the question is are you sure He called you and if He did called you, He'll never leave you confused, He'll give the direction to go.
As for your wife, tell the God who call you or rather report her to God who called you. God cannot call you and not make provision for her; He know how to perfect it....meanwhile, note that divorce can never be His solution.
So God cant use him where he is presently abi??
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Alexk2(m): 9:48pm On Mar 25, 2018
akaahs:

So God cant use him where he is presently abi??
You obviously didn't read through my post before quoting me.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Audray(f): 10:00pm On Mar 25, 2018
Mznaett:

Lol
Audray?
Please stop it o grin
Haha.My sister,shey no problem?
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by petenweke: 10:11pm On Mar 25, 2018
Your ministry must be dangerous then
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by obataokenwa(m): 10:21pm On Mar 25, 2018
stankezzy:
true talk , when u came to this world , u did not come with your wife , when u will face your creator you are not going to face him with your wife , even Adam that gave excuse that it was the wife that decieve him was not spared from punishment , call from God is a personal thing , such thing happened in anambra state where a wife repented and was preaching every where, the husband was just a church goer but not a born again , the husband told her to stop which she refused then the husband called her people and before them ask her choose between your marriage and carrying bible around , she after much persuasion and thinking choose her marriage and everything was settled after some while after denying jesus she took ill no medication seems to work on her eventually she died , during her burial her christian brethren came and was praying the fire of God touched the husband and he repented at the burial, but do u know one funny thing the husband with his son is moving around from morning till night every where in their town preaching that same gospel while the wife have died denying Jesus which u know her end. If people ask the man why he stopped the wife and yet is still doing the same thing , the man will say that the wife's repentance was not total that his own that he is ready to die because of the gospel , he can even argue with u from morning till night, another one in rev umah okpais crusade he made an alter call , a lady with her boyfriend friend that stood near the road to the place where the crusade was happening , the guy wanted to go for the alter calling but the lady held him saying no are u going to leave me , later she suggested that they cross over to the other side of the road immediately the boy wanted to cross vehicle from nowhere knocked him down and he died on the spot , surprisingly do u know what the lady did , she ran back to the crusade and ran to the alter call after deceiving the guy to his death and hellfire , a word is enough for the wise . thanks
Presently I told my fiancee that if she ever want to stop me from serving God, I will pray day and night with strong fasting that God should kill her so I won't fail in His plan and purpose. That aspect my fiancee dont dare interfere and she loves me more cos of my zeal for the things of God
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 11:21pm On Mar 25, 2018
My sister,

It's not like there is a template for receiving a calling from God and how to start a ministry. The only thing I deem more valuable in your submission is "ask God for direction".... Every other thing sounds judgemental and personal

IForgotMyLoginD:
My sister attends a big church and she’s an active worker. Her husband got the calling from God. But you need to understand that when God calls you, the fruit will show. Even your wife will leave her church to join you. I think you’re rushing to have a ministry. Ask the Holy Spirit for direction. God won’t just jump start you into owning a church. Do you even have a small fellowship unit that is touching lives?

My in-law registered his ministry 4years ago but is still taking it little by little. Even when he wanted to start Sunday service , God said NOT YET. My sister supports him cos she’s SEEN that God’s hand is upon him. This is someone that got his calling yearssss before he registered his ministry. God is never in a hurry.

So I advise you ask HIM for direction. And ask HIM to start to use you in a mighty way. Even your wife will be convinced. Cos right now, she isn’t.



Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 11:25pm On Mar 25, 2018
akaahs:

So God cant use him where he is presently abi??

So God can't use him in another place abi?
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Bullhari: 11:27pm On Mar 25, 2018
Demzlent:
Please I need a good advice from my Christian brothers and sisters

I and my wife are attending a big Church which she loves a lot,she is even the one that made me to be attending the Church. I have a calling which I'm sure of
Then late last year a fellow Christian who is a minister of God called me that we should start a ministry together, I agreed and we started working on.
The ministry is starting today and my wife is insisting that I should not go that if I go she will divorce me. She even called the man we are to start the ministry together and threatened him
Please what should I do? Help me.
Should I go ahead?


greedy fellow, must you start a new church? why can't you pastor in your present church, you want to collect tithe and seeds abi?

ogbeni, respect yourself and stop looking for innocent people to scam. fake pastor. call ko, sms no.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Bullhari: 11:28pm On Mar 25, 2018
obataokenwa:
Presently I told my fiancee that if she ever want to stop me from serving God, I will pray day and night with strong fasting that God should kill her so I won't fail in His plan and purpose. That aspect my fiancee dont dare interfere and she loves me more cos of my zeal for the things of God

where is the fainting booth pls
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 11:29pm On Mar 25, 2018
toscolee:
Nairaland is not the place to bring up such a sensitive issue.

My first thought exactly.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 11:31pm On Mar 25, 2018
ihatesycophant:
God can not call you and not make a way. Ask God to reveal himself to your wife that truly He was the one that called you.
Again, your mission statement of calling may not be to establish a new church. May be that was why God has not revealed himself to your wife. God is never a God of confusion, if truly he want you to break away from your church, He would have revealed it to your wife even in a slightest way to serve as conviction to her.
Well, continue praying and tell God to make the call profound and clearer so that your wife will feel it because between two or three a matter shall be established.

What if God has and she is resisting?
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by CASTOSVILLA(m): 12:58am On Mar 26, 2018
realmindz:
she's evil, kill her

Deuteronomy 13 vs 6 10


If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people.
Stone them to death,
because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God,
You're a big fool
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by IForgotMyLoginD(f): 3:49am On Mar 26, 2018
And how can it look ‘personal’ when I don’t know who he is?

As for ‘judgemental’, of what use will my ‘judements’ be to me or anyone for that matter?

mapet:
My sister,

It's not like there is a template for receiving a calling from God and how to start a ministry. The only thing I deem more valuable in your submission is "ask God for direction".... Every other thing sounds judgemental and personal

Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by kenturkish(m): 6:44am On Mar 26, 2018
realmindz:


Deut 13 vs 6-10...apologies
Good. Apologies accepted I withdraw the retard comment
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Olysmile(f): 7:29am On Mar 26, 2018
God called you or you called your self, hmmmm. bros pls serve first in the Church that you're currently attending. selah
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by ihatesycophant(m): 7:32am On Mar 26, 2018
mapet:


What if God has and she is resisting?
You're just assuming. God can never be an author of confusion. If truly you're spirit filled, immediately you received the mandate and you confined in your wife and she gave negative reply, since that day you suppose to have gone on your knees and ask God to convince her by a sign. The Bible says, until they see a sign they would not believe. Even during the ministry of Jesus, the Pharises never believed him because they requested for a miracle. You need to go more in prayers for God to show himself to your darling wife that truly he was the one sending you for a task ahead. If you go through the Bible everyone God sent and they had one or two obstacles, God manifested miracles to dispel their doubt.
I advice you to go more on your knees and intensify your prayer altar and keep the wood burning. Truly if it was God that called you, your wife will surely feel it and be convinced.

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Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 7:34am On Mar 26, 2018
IForgotMyLoginD:
And how can it look ‘personal’ when I don’t know who he is?

As for ‘judgemental’, of what use will my ‘judements’ be to me or anyone for that matter?


So let's start with few tots

1. I guess you imagined the way you sister and her husband started their "ministry" is also the way he MUST start his?
2. If you went through his initial posts very well, he did not ask anyone here to help him assess if he should start a ministry. His emphasis is that he's convinced of his calling to start a ministry. My question to you (and others with "judgmental" feedback) is why are you more interested in "dissuading" him? Why are you telling him "how" and "when" he should not start/start? I put below some of your quotes that is out to the issues he placed for advise

God won’t just jump start you into owning a church. Do you even have a small fellowship unit that is touching lives?

Good question, but out of scope. You do not know his background or the "works" he has done, the spiritual heights he has attained. You do not even know if he has a small fellowship or not(if that is even a criteria for God's call)

My in-law registered his ministry 4years ago but is still taking it little by little. Even when he wanted to start Sunday service , God said NOT YET. My sister supports him cos she’s SEEN that God’s hand is upon him. This is someone that got his calling yearssss before he registered his ministry. God is never in a hurry.

The God that told your in-law NOT YET, could be telling this man START NOW?


So I advise you ask HIM for direction. And ask HIM to start to use you in a mighty way. Even your wife will be convinced. Cos right now, she isn’t.

You made a bland assumption that he has not asked God for direction?


I like to keep to the facts of issues, at least to the extent of the information we have. The challenge I see here is that this brother is long-gone in his resolve to start his ministry (convinced God has called him to start). He wants advise on how to convince his wife. Let me pick just one thing from what many of you tacitly alluded to as a simple answer

1. PRAY that God touches/reveals to the wife
2. Get counselling from "spiritual fathers" who can guide both he and the wife on how to traverse stages like this. It will hit into their family life physically, emotionally and economically at the start (the ministry may even be "small time" for a long time)......but that is the price of answering a legit call of God.
3. Tell the wife, the threat of divorce.........is at best shameful. Under no circumstances should a christian wife threaten her husband with divorce over divergent views.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by IForgotMyLoginD(f): 7:46am On Mar 26, 2018
Sorry I have no time to read this epistle. Give the guy your advice and move on (that is if you are not the minister that asked him to come into partnership in the first place). And kindly keep off my mentions. Mr. Jugdemental I-Can’t-Mind-My-Own-Business Pot calling Kettle Black.

With all due respect sir, this will be the last response I’ll honour you with. You can go ahead and jump on the others giving him almost same advice. You might be lucky to find one to trade words or debate with you. Happy new week sir.


mapet:


So let's start with few tots

1. I guess you imagined the way you sister and her husband started their "ministry" is also the way he MUST start his?
2. If you went through his initial posts very well, he did not ask anyone here to help him assess if he should start a ministry. His emphasis is that he's convinced of his calling to start a ministry. My question to you (and others with "judgmental" feedback) is why are you more interested in "dissuading" him? Why are you telling him "how" and "when" he should not start/start? I put below some of your quotes that is out to the issues he placed for advise



Good question, but out of scope. You do not know his background or the "works" he has done, the spiritual heights he has attained. You do not even know if he has a small fellowship or not(if that is even a criteria for God's call)



The God that told your in-law NOT YET, could be telling this man START NOW?




You made a bland assumption that he has not asked God for direction?


I like to keep to the facts of issues, at least to the extent of the information we have. The challenge I see here is that this brother is long-gone in his resolve to start his ministry (convinced God has called him to start). He wants advise on how to convince his wife. Let me pick just one thing from what many of you tacitly alluded to as a simple answer

1. PRAY that God touches/reveals to the wife
2. Get counselling from "spiritual fathers" who can guide both he and the wife on how to traverse stages like this. It will hit into their family life physically, emotionally and economically at the start (the ministry may even be "small time" for a long time)......but that is the price of answering a legit call of God.
3. Tell the wife, the threat of divorce.........is at best shameful. Under no circumstances should a christian wife threaten her husband with divorce over divergent views.
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by IForgotMyLoginD(f): 7:54am On Mar 26, 2018
All in one summary. Well said my brother.

When Paul took the gospel to the gentiles, they went with the Word, POWER and The SPIRIT. God cannot send anyone without equipping them. Which woman will love one church, and threaten to divorce her husband if he forms his? If truly God wants him to open his own church, that devil MUST be subdued by the power that is in the man through the Holy Spirit by prayer!





ihatesycophant:
You're just assuming. God can never be an author of confusion. If truly you're spirit filled, immediately you received the mandate and you confined in your wife and she gave negative reply, since that day you suppose to have gone on your knees and ask God to convince her by a sign. The Bible says, until they see a sign they would not believe. Even during the ministry of Jesus, the Pharises never believed him because they requested for a miracle. You need to go more in prayers for God to show himself to your darling wife that truly he was the one sending you for a task ahead. If you go through the Bible everyone God sent and they had one or two obstacles, God manifested miracles to dispel their doubt.
I advice you to go more on your knees and intensify your prayer altar and keep the wood burning. Truly if it was God that called you, your wife will surely feel it and be convinced.

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Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 7:58am On Mar 26, 2018
ihatesycophant:
You're just assuming. God can never be an author of confusion. If truly you're spirit filled, immediately you received the mandate and you confined in your wife and she gave negative reply, since that day you suppose to have gone on your knees and ask God to convince her by a sign. The Bible says, until they see a sign they would not believe. Even during the ministry of Jesus, the Pharises never believed him because they requested for a miracle. You need to go more in prayers for God to show himself to your darling wife that truly he was the one sending you for a task ahead. If you go through the Bible everyone God sent and they had one or two obstacles, God manifested miracles to dispel their doubt.
I advice you to go more on your knees and intensify your prayer altar and keep the wood burning. Truly if it was God that called you, your wife will surely feel it and be convinced.

This is how some of you twist narratives and the scriptures and also quote scriptures out of context. let's start with some few things in this your post and the other one.

1. Yes I am assuming, just like you and anyone else. God's call to him is personal. It cannot follow a template. You cannot tell him ho-ha a pattern HIS call should follow.
2. There have been many instances where a "spirit-filled" individual has his/her greatest cross in his/her partner. There has been instances where wife's/girl-friends of pastors/would-be pastors are not supportive. In some cases the relationship crashes, in other cases they find a way to get to a compromise and in others she gives her total support. What this person in question is asking his how will he go about it. You lot have all the answers from a supposed template.
3. From the bolded, what makes you think he's not done all that? What if God is tell him to do some other things to get her on board? If you were a christian counselor, and a young aspiring pastor comes to you with this "problem", you mean to tell me your answer will be "If truly you're spirit filled, immediately you received the mandate and you confined in your wife and she gave negative reply, since that day you suppose to have gone on your knees and ask God to convince her by a sign[/i]" This is why people walk away from some of you supposed spiritual leaders worse off and more disappointed.
4. What is the use of this out of context scriptures you quoted here to the discussion at hand? [i]"The Bible says, until they see a sign they would not believe"
I guess you are a bible reader, yet you muddled up a different scripture to explain? hmm....

Just like I keep saying.......

What if he's done all these (prayed earnestly, fasted, etc) and she's still adamant?
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by mapet: 7:59am On Mar 26, 2018
IForgotMyLoginD:
Sorry I have no time to read this epistle. Give the guy your advice and move on (that is if you are not the minister that asked him to come into partnership in the first place). And kindly keep off my mentions. Mr. Jugdemental I-Can’t-Mind-My-Own-Business Pot calling Kettle Black.

With all due respect sir, this will be the last response I’ll honour you with. You can go ahead and jump on the others giving him almost same advice. You might be lucky to find one to trade words or debate with you. Happy new week sir.



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Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Mznaett: 9:14am On Mar 26, 2018
Audray:
Haha.My sister,shey no problem?

Not at all sis... Just a way of saying "hi" wink
Re: My Wife Doesn't Want Me To Start My Ministry by Audray(f): 9:41am On Mar 26, 2018
Mznaett:



Not at all sis... Just a way of saying "hi" wink
Aw.Thanks. "Hi" to you too! wink
Mznaett:



Not at all sis... Just a way of saying "hi" wink
Aw...Thanks. "Hi" to you too!

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