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Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by BankeSmalls(f): 6:43pm On Apr 29, 2018
Reelectbuhari:
I don't blame u...
Is your tribal marks paining you? grin
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Reelectbuhari: 6:44pm On Apr 29, 2018
BankeSmalls:
Is your tribal marks paining you? grin
won't engage u coz am more of igbo than u
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid: 6:45pm On Apr 29, 2018
bigfrancis21:
How sure are you about this?
He isn't sure.

Igbo denial and hate is very strong in Ukwuani/Ndokwa axis.
Anybody denying that is deceiving himself.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by BankeSmalls(f): 6:46pm On Apr 29, 2018
Reelectbuhari:
won't engage u coz am more of igbo than u
Really? But you engage in this grin

Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Nwadiuto247: 6:47pm On Apr 29, 2018
KratosCorp:
You have no right to say that. The same also goes to the person that you quoted.

There are many Ikwere people who identify as Igbo. So, neither you nor the OP has the right to pull a blanket identity over everyone based on your personal perception.

To those who bear igbo names, speak igbo and yet deny that they are igbo, all I can say to you is good luck with your igbo denial in the future that Nigeria and the world faces.
Oga dont worry yourself we dont need Ikwerre to be Igbos by force
Those of them who choose to identify with us can go ahead since they are proudly igbos.
How many senators do Ikwerre have? Just one

How many house of reps members do Ikwerre have? About two

How many states do Ikwerre have? Just half

What"s the population of Ikwerre? So small and can't be compared to us.

How many ministers do they have? Just one.

How many of them are holding Federal political post post? Just few

How big is their land? Not big at all

Pls forget about those people, they are too irrelevant for us biko.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Nobody: 7:35pm On Apr 29, 2018
ariesbull:
No ..because English colonised you

Did Igbo colonise them
So Portuguese and Spaniards who bear same name and understands each other means they are same people?
Maybe because one colonised the other grin grin
Yeye dey smell.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid:
Ekinematics:
So Portuguese and Spaniards who bear same name and understands each other means they are same people?
Maybe because one colonised the other grin grin
Yeye dey smell.
Portuguese and Spanish were both colonized by the Romans.
Portuguese and Spanish languages are actually pidgin Latin languages, ie they developed from Latin language, just as Nigerians today have our own versions of pidgin English, with Warri being the sweetest, thanks to our British colonialism.

So yes! Spanish and Portuguese languages emanated from the Latin colonialization of the area.

When did Ndiigbo colonize Ikwerres ?
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 7:54pm On Apr 29, 2018
Ekinematics:
So Portuguese and Spaniards who bear same name and understands each other means they are same people?
Maybe because one colonised the other grin grin
Yeye dey smell.
Now you are talking ... Portuguese and Spanish are classified in the same linguistics as Latin speaking and politically as Iberians...maybe you haven't heard this before

The way Germans , Austrians even Holland are dutch
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 7:54pm On Apr 29, 2018
Igboid:
Portuguese and Spanish were both colonized by the Romans.
Portuguese and Spanish languages are actually pidgin Latin languages, ie they developed from Latin language, just as Nigerians today have our own versions of pidgin English, with Warri being the sweetest, thanks to our British colonialism.

So yes! Spanish and Portuguese languages are united by Latin colonialization of the area.

When did Ndiigbo colonize Ikwerres ?
Don't mind the little clown....maybe Igbo colonised them
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 7:56pm On Apr 29, 2018
Igboid:
He isn't sure.

Igbo denial and hate is very strong in Ukwuani/Ndokwa axis.
Anybody denying that is deceiving himself.
I doubt maybe Aboh ....not all Ukwuani
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by KratosCorp: 7:58pm On Apr 29, 2018
Of course not, if you are not. But, contextually, I don't see how your question relates to my comment, given that your portion of the world was probably colonized by the English folks both politically and culturally. But that cannot be said about the igboness-denying Ikwere folks in relation to the larger igboness-embracing groups.

Ekinematics:
I bear an English name and I speak English language. Does that make me English?
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Bede2u(m):
Nonaira1 I think u are wrong. U and Aniomafirstson. Anioma Igbos and many Igbos from Rivers are regarded as Igbos by se ppl. Ditto okonjo iweala, pat utomi and even u nonaira1 (who both of us have promoted igbo supremacy severally here). The problem is majorly Ikwere and Ika.
There was this my guy from agbor during my university days whose surname was igbo....he always insults igbos even without provocation. U will just see that he cant keep calm. He just has to always remind u that he aint igbo. Who can love someone like that?

If we all Igbos stop being damn silly and come together as one and ask for a referandum...we might just get it. We may go on to be the 1st homogenous nation in Africa...like u have in Europe
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid:
Actually, I believe Ikwerre people are not Igbos, those people can't be Igbos.
Their looks, character and all, scream non Igbo!

So, they are not Igbo.

Where I disagree is the idea that Ikwerre became Igboid speaking because of interactions With Ndiigbo.

I disagree with that, because Ikwerre people who promote such theory always seem to subtly suggest that Igbo people forced our language on their hitherto Bini speaking ancestors.
But nothing can be farther from the truth than that theory, as we all know that there was never an Igbo empire pre colonial era, that would have enforced such a language switch.
Also, these same Group of Ikwerres suggest that it was during the Eastern region arrangement that lasted from 1939 to 1966 that Ndiigbo forced down the Igboid language on them, but we know this is not true, because there are myriads of pre 1939 colonial documents that clearly shows that Ikwerres were already speaking Igboid language before the first Caucasian set foot on African soil.

The most plausible explanation is that Ikwerre people were originally Bini grin or non Igbo people, who suffered from self inflicted inferiority complex, admired the beautiful language of Ndiigbo with awe, culminating in their ancestors dropping their former languages, for Igbo language of their neighbors.
These Ikwerre ancestors corrupted the originally pure Igbo language they borrowed from Ndiigbo , into the impurity called Ikwerre language they speak today.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid: 8:31pm On Apr 29, 2018
ariesbull:
I doubt maybe Aboh ....not all Ukwuani
Aboh is the traditional capital of Ndokwa/Ukwuani people.

That Aboh sentiment is the majority sentiment of Ndokwa/Ukwuani people.

I know this is hard for you to phantom, I use to be like you too, but I learnt the hard way.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid: 8:34pm On Apr 29, 2018
Bede2u:
Nonaira1 I think u are wrong. U and Aniomafirstson. Anioma Igbos and many Igbos from Rivers are regarded as Igbos by se ppl. Ditto okonjo iweala, pat utomi and even u nonaira1 (who both of us have promoted igbo supremacy severally here). The problem is majorly Ikwere and Ika.
There was this my guy from Agbor during my university days whose surname was okonwor....he always insults igbos even without provocation. U will just see that he cant keep calm. He just has to always remind u that he aint igbo. Who can love someone like that?

If we all Igbos stop being damn silly and come together as one and ask for a referandum...we might just get it. We may go on to be the 1st homogenous nation in Africa...like u have in Europe
You are very right on the Agbor axis thing.
I have a friend from Agbor, his name is typical Igbo names, but he would tell you straight away that he isn't Igbo, and if you dare argue it with him, he gets angry and ruffled.

It's the default settings of Ika people to be anti Igbo.
It's rarity to find pro Igbos amongst them.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Bane2020: 8:43pm On Apr 29, 2018
Personally I have no problem with Ikwerre people denying their Igboness, I mean we all know those people are as confused as that word gets... plus they are basically too irrelevant to even be a bother or not if they decide to be what the f**k they want to be. Everybody has a right to be delusional, there is a law against that... however my only problem with these low IQ fucktards among the Ikwerre demography who say they are not Igbos (no problem with that absolutely) yet bear Igbo names, appropriate the Igbo culture, eat Igbo foods, dress like Igbos, speak Igbo however unintelligibly it may sound... Yet still deny been Igbo..... Lol its moments you just laugh and shrug...
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Bane2020: 8:47pm On Apr 29, 2018
Igboid:
You are very right on the Agbor axis thing.
I have a friend from Agbor, his name is typical Igbo names, but he would tell you straight away that he isn't Igbo, and if you dare argue it with him, he gets angry and ruffled.

It's the default settings of Ika people to be anti Igbo.
It's rarity to find pro Igbos amongst them.
A pan Igbo law has to be made for those imbeciles who bear our names and appropriate our cultures yet deride themselves in laughable self conflicts of IDENTITY AND DENIAL, to renounce anything in their culture and bearing that has a semblance to anything IGBO... Very confused set of people.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid: 8:55pm On Apr 29, 2018
Bane2020:
A pan Igbo law has to be made for those imbeciles who bear our names and appropriate our cultures yet deride themselves in laughable self conflicts of IDENTITY AND DENIAL, to renounce anything in their culture and bearing that has a semblance to anything IGBO... Very confused set of people.
I don't think any law needs to be made.

We just need to stop claiming them, and start calling them what they actually are.

Which is a group of Edo people whose Bini ancestors out of inferiority complex and awe for Igbo language, dropped their Edoid languages for Igbo language, which they went on to corrupt using their Edoid tongues and intonations, in addition to injection of Edoid words, to create the Frankenstein of a language they call Ika, Ikwerre or whatever today.

They are not Igbos, they had made this clear over and over.
It's obvious that these people whenever they look at Ndiigbo, it reminds them of the inferiority complex of their Edo ancestors who were awed by Ndiigbo, so much as to switch over to our language.

It's a humbling realization for them, so they resort to demeaning Ndiigbo.
You make it too easy for them, once you start claiming them, I have learnt to deny them of such attention and rather hit them hard.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by nku5: 9:01pm On Apr 29, 2018
A person's name is an Igbo name. The person calls his traditional ruler Obi or Eze. The person says he is not Igbo

The person na mumu grin
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 9:08pm On Apr 29, 2018
Igboid:
Aboh is the traditional capital of Ndokwa/Ukwuani people.

That Aboh sentiment is the majority sentiment of Ndokwa/Ukwuani people.

I know this is hard for you to phantom, I use to be like you too, but I learnt the hard way.
Oh yes ! I guess as much ! Can you pls educate us
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid: 9:18pm On Apr 29, 2018
ariesbull:
Oh yes ! I guess as much ! Can you pls educate us
I don't know much too.

But all I can say is that the average Ukwuani/Ndokwa man is anti Igbo in nature, as a default setting to prove to their non Igbo neighbors that they are not Igbos.

Many of them are opportunistic and only become fair weather Igbos, when claiming so offers them economic, social or political advantage.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 4:13am On Apr 30, 2018
Igboid:
I don't know much too.

But all I can say is that the average Ukwuani/Ndokwa man is anti Igbo in nature, as a default setting to prove to their non Igbo neighbors that they are not Igbos.

Many of them are opportunistic and only become fair weather Igbos, when claiming so offers them economic, social or political advantage.
Ye with their anti Igbo setting I am yet to see any notable developmemt from their or any notable international men from Ikwerre

So this their anti Igbo doesn't add up
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Nobody: 6:25am On Apr 30, 2018
ariesbull:
Now you are talking ... Portuguese and Spanish are classified in the same linguistics as Latin speaking and politically as Iberians...maybe you haven't heard this before

The way Germans , Austrians even Holland are dutch
Still doesn't make them the same people. The Iberian peninsula or the Arabian peninsula does not mean all the countries or people there are the same.
Stop fooling yourself here.


And for your stupid logic; Portuguese, Spanish, French and Italian grouped as Latin does not make them the same, Same as English, Dutch and German being grouped as germanic languages doesn't mean they are the same.
Understanding is indeed your problem.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Nobody: 6:32am On Apr 30, 2018
ariesbull:
Don't mind the little clown....maybe Igbo colonised them
Fools crying for help. Attache by force. Go get your life fixed before begging to attach yourself with others.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Nwadiuto247: 7:00am On Apr 30, 2018
Igboid:
I don't think any law needs to be made.

We just need to stop claiming them, and start calling them what they actually are.

Which is a group of Edo people whose Bini ancestors out of inferiority complex and awe for Igbo language, dropped their Edoid languages for Igbo language, which they went on to corrupt using their Edoid tongues and intonations, in addition to injection of Edoid words, to create the Frankenstein of a language they call Ika, Ikwerre or whatever today.

They are not Igbos, they had made this clear over and over.
It's obvious that these people whenever they look at Ndiigbo, it reminds them of the inferiority complex of their Edo ancestors who were awed by Ndiigbo, so much as to switch over to our language.

It's a humbling realization for them, so they resort to demeaning Ndiigbo.
You make it too easy for them, once you start claiming them, I have learnt to deny them of such attention and rather hit them hard.
My advice to my fellow igbos in ph is that if you are working in an office or u are a student pls don't be deceived by your sentiment that Ikwerre man is your brother. He is not your brother.

If an Ikwerre man is contesting any post with a Kalabari or Okirika man in your office /organisation/institution pls leave the Ikwerre man and vote Kalabari or Okirika. Ikwerre is not your brother. If you most vote him let it be that he is a qualified candidate and not for any brotherly sentiment pls. That's what i do.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 8:54am On Apr 30, 2018
Ekinematics:
Fools crying for help. Attache by force. Go get your life fixed before begging to attach yourself with others.
Attachee...how didn't you hear what they said ! The Igbo don't want Ikwerre ...they gave up on them and they don't act Igbo

..is that hard
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 8:57am On Apr 30, 2018
Ekinematics:
Still doesn't make them the same people. The Iberian peninsula or the Arabian peninsula does not mean all the countries or people there are the same.
Stop fooling yourself here.


And for your stupid logic; Portuguese, Spanish, French and Italian grouped as Latin does not make them the same, Same as English, Dutch and German being grouped as germanic languages doesn't mean they are the same.
Understanding is indeed your problem.
Understanding is hard for you....I told you they are grouped as the same folks known as Iberians

So you have problem with comprehension

The ijebu , the egba , the egun , the okun ,the Oyo are grouped as Yoruba

The anioma , the agbenu, the ngwa, the Mbaise, the Anambra ,the Aro are grouped as Igbo

The orogun, the urhobo, the isoko are grouped as Sobo

Do you have a problem with comprehension

The saxons, the Normandy, the London etc are grouped as English


Now run along son
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by ariesbull(op): 8:57am On Apr 30, 2018
Nwadiuto247:
My advice to my fellow igbos in ph is that if you are working in an office or u are a student pls don't be deceived by your sentiment that Ikwerre man is your brother. He is not your brother.

If an Ikwerre man is contesting any post with a Kalabari or Okirika man in your office /organisation/institution pls leave the Ikwerre man and vote Kalabari or Okirika. Ikwerre is not your brother. If you most vote him let it be that he is a qualified candidate and not for any brotherly sentiment pls. That's what i do.
Gbam
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Igboid: 10:07am On Apr 30, 2018
Nwadiuto247:
My advice to my fellow igbos in ph is that if you are working in an office or u are a student pls don't be deceived by your sentiment that Ikwerre man is your brother. He is not your brother.

If an Ikwerre man is contesting any post with a Kalabari or Okirika man in your office /organisation/institution pls leave the Ikwerre man and vote Kalabari or Okirika. Ikwerre is not your brother. If you most vote him let it be that he is a qualified candidate and not for any brotherly sentiment pls. That's what i do.
This message is very important.
Especially for opportunistic ones like Chibuike Amaechi, Ndiigbo must make sure we constantly deny him and his Igbo claim in public and remind everyone that he is a confused Edo man whose inferiority complex suffering Edo ancestors learnt Igbo language, we must make it very embarrassing for him and his ilk, we must make sure that they don't get to represent Ndiigbo or take our political slots.

For example, when Buhari made mention of the CBN governor being Igbo, notice that the slimy Ikas and Emefiele himself kept mute, because it was profitable to stay mute then and rep Igbo.
I think in cases like that, Ndiigbo pressure groups should release official document, denying such claims and reinstating that Emefiele is Ika and not Igbo, and so therefore Buhari can't use his appointment in place of those of Ndiigbo.

Ndiigbo as a matter of necessity and survival need to start adopting such tactics to get rid of those opportunists.
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Apr 30, 2018
ariesbull:
Understanding is hard for you....I told you they are grouped as the same folks known as Iberians

So you have problem with comprehension

The ijebu , the egba , the egun , the okun ,the Oyo are grouped as Yoruba

The anioma , the agbenu, the ngwa, the Mbaise, the Anambra ,the Aro are grouped as Igbo

The orogun, the urhobo, the isoko are grouped as Sobo

Do you have a problem with comprehension

The saxons, the Normandy, the London etc are grouped as English


Now run along son
Shows how shallow your level of understanding is. Go get a life!
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by iLoveAnambra(m):
Nwadiuto247:
Oga dont worry yourself we dont need Ikwerre to be Igbos by force
Those of them who choose to identify with us can go ahead since they are proudly igbos.
How many senators do Ikwerre have? Just one

How many house of reps members do Ikwerre have? About two

How many states do Ikwerre have? Just half

What"s the population of Ikwerre? So small and can't be compared to us.

How many ministers do they have? Just one.

How many of them are holding Federal political post post? Just few

How big is their land? Not big at all

Pls forget about those people, they are too irrelevant for us biko.
Who told u Ikwerre Get Half of Rivers state
they only get 1/4 of Rivers state.
Population Roughly 300-400,000 filled with Short ugly Men and women
mostly beggars that beg at Choba Junction
very lazy sets of pigs

no Senator,3 reps

great people from dat tribe
Elechi Amadi
Wike
Amaechi
Omehia
Duncan mighty
lols The bastard tribe gat nothing to Offer Except silly corrupt Polithifians and one village singer

pls we have nothing in common with this people
Only one Local Govt in Imo,Anambra or Abia hav produced great people than this Lazy Bastards
..
Re: Do The Igbo Indigenous To South South Matter ? by Aromi: 1:59pm On Apr 30, 2018
Igboid:
This message is very important.
Especially for opportunistic ones like Chibuike Amaechi, Ndiigbo must make sure we constantly deny him and his Igbo claim in public and remind everyone that he is a confused Edo man whose inferiority complex suffering Edo ancestors learnt Igbo language, we must make it very embarrassing for him and his ilk, we must make sure that they don't get to represent Ndiigbo or take our political slots.

For example, when Buhari made mention of the CBN governor being Igbo, notice that the slimy Ikas and Emefiele himself kept mute, because it was profitable to stay mute then and rep Igbo.
I think in cases like that, Ndiigbo pressure groups should release official document, denying such claims and reinstating that Emefiele is Ika and not Igbo, and so therefore Buhari can't use his appointment in place of those of Ndiigbo.

Ndiigbo as a matter of necessity and survival need to start adopting such tactics to get rid of those opportunists.
always they say ndi igbo is greedy people but look at what they are doing with river state govenor seat 3 of ikwerre people have occupied it with out minding other tribe they share the state with
Thier neighbors ogonis kalabaris are not seen them as ikwerre people but igbos who is oppresing them and they keep hating us on sin an ikwerre man is commiting look at our south east apert from imo state everyother state is going on rotational of governor seat and they will still call us greedy poeple where i base as long as you are not from se you are not my nwanne
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