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Bossontop:

Its not a new thing that racism still exists in those parts

it's not racism.

He didn't say black players but African.


Pep plays with a lot of blacks but not much Africans.

Yaya T is already ageing, he can't make the first 11 of any good team again. His stats has really reduced before pep came in. Pep would have sold him at d beginning of d season when he sold about 8 players but he felt guilt as a result of what happened at barca and also because Yaya T is a respected figure at man city.

Ture may b right about somethings he said but he shouldn't expect Pep to build his team around him at his age.

He should follow his mates to China or Japan and stop complaining.
A coach decides what he wants.

He saw yaya as a rival, he was wrong, yaya was a pivotal player before he arrived city and yes he can't do well with palace or Watford , racist

lexy2014:
this is another dimension. So Peps behaviour is a reflection of d way Italians practice their local politics? All d years Silvio berlussconi was Italian prime minister, were Italians racist? Or was his govt anti immigration? Does pep like pizza?

You should really do a research on Italian African relationship. I usually think that there's nothing like racism until this closed semester when I did a research on a somehow related topic.. I cried that my professor stopped class for some minutes. I think you should travel to Italy especially Southern Italy, very racist people!! Always blaming Northern Italians and Black folks for their woes!

ObaKlaz:
Ok... I get Toure's point. I think Pep actually has attitude problems, and that he doesn't really like Africans.

But to say he isn't a genius is just plain hatred. He has dominated every league he was at. They say he was just lucky to have Messi, Xavi and Iniesta at FCB and he would be 'exposed' in the EPL. Obviously, he's just toying with the so called 'most competitive league' right now.

Now, the latest is that he wouldn't do it with Watford, Crystal Palace and Stoke City??

C'mon, I have issues with the personality of Guardiola, but his managerial skills clearly shows he is brilliant. He just needs to fix his silly attitude issues. Besides that, sentiments should not override facts.

PEP GUARDIOLA IS BRILLIANT.

dominated with which club?
barca had won d league twice nd champions league before he became their manager and where dominating.

Bayern munich as always bn dominating german fooball just a lil blip wen klop was there nd dey had won d treble before he came their coach.

man city had won the league with both mancini nd pellerini befoe he came.

so bro please explain to mi when you mean dominating

Goandie:
the barca team that won all dos trophies were mostly frank rijkaard players, d xavi, iniesta, valdez, puyol and messi.
pep is a wonderful coach no doubt but nothing special like d way pple hype him nd if u see all d trophies he won in barca a useless coach like enrique broke most of dem so nothing special there.
in bayern munich is record there is poor with d way d German league had lost is Aurora.
if u say mancity d season was just one of the worst season in english games 2 me but let see if he can repeat dis feat den i will respect him nd put him in my list if gr8 coaches of all tym .
since he even left barca him neva win champions league again.

Exactly! They over hype that it's now now funny to be honest! Enrique that nearly sent Roma to relegation came and won a Treble with that team. My 6 year old niece would coach that team and come out victor!

AroleOduduwa:
French and Italian people are welcoming, Spanish people are pure racist, name one black player in the Spain national team

You definitely don't know the meaning of the word Racist i guess you probably read or hear people use the word and you love the way it sound.
A racist wouldn't care if you are from Africa or not, a racist is against your origin, skin colour so if Pep is really a racist i see no reason Keita will stay all through Pep's stay at Barca, Danilo, G. Jesus, Sane, Mendy where all acquired under Pep, lastly Sterling and Delph had more playing time under Pep than Managers before him.

AroleOduduwa:
I lived in Europe for 17 months, ask anyone you know that live/ have lived in Spain if they are freely people

I don't know about you shaa so I will say okay. But the majority of stories I have heard and researches I have done indicates that Spain is better of those countries for black Africans. Thanks anyway!

ollah2:
In as much as, I'm a Pep fan I can't deal with a racist. You can't hate my kind and expect love from me in return.

He doesn't expect love from you, sit down and think about it...

Arondizuogu:
You should really do a research on Italian African relationship. I usually think that there's nothing like racism until this closed semester when I did a research on a somehow related topic.. I cried that my professor stopped class for some minutes. I think you should travel to Italy especially Southern Italy, very racist people!! Always blaming Northern Italians and Black folks for their woes!

it is d research we are doing and pls dont 4get that we are trying to draw a connectuon between how italian racism makes pep racist. U said d reason pep is racist is because Italians are racist. And u said this was reflected in d emergence of a far right govt. To my knowledge Silvio berlusconi is d longest serving prime minister of Italy. Was his govt anti immigration? I also asked u, does pep love pizza?

lexy2014:
when pep forced schwansteinger out of Bayern was it cause he was racist? How does d world hate blacks?

Are you seriously asking how the world hates blacks? Chai, I don't think that deserves an answer. Mba I refuse to be part of this folly.

greypencils:
The other coaches you mentioned might not do well per say in a lowly rated club BUT Alex Ferguson can, he did it with Man united in the 90's. That Man united team was made up of home grown members, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, Roy Keane, Andy cole were all home grown. He didnt buy stars, he made do with what he had. Dont also forget that leicester city came out of nowhere with unknown people to win EPL in 2016 and they made it to the quater finals at the champions league....

Are U Telling Me Man Utd Of 90's Are A Prototype Of Present Day Crystal Pal n Watford?Guy, Man Utd Of 90's Are Just Lyk Todays Totham. Promising Home Grown Players Wt Good Academy Structure.Presently A Manager Wont Succeed In A Club Wtout Money Or Good Academy.Dont Forget Pep Won Wt Barca Team B In Segunda B n Gained Promotn To Laliga But Cant Be Allowed To Participate. Fotball Is About The Team U Have (Youth Setup And Money) Which Will Help Ur Tactics.

Kingsley1000:
IDIOT yaya toure is the best mid fielder in africa and can be rated wit likes of pirlo,inesta,modric ETC in europe

I think he was referring to the coach

Ezyp:
Yaya Touré has launched a broadside at Pep Guardiola, accusing him of “having problems with Africans wherever he goes”, claiming the Manchester City manager’s coaching reputation is “a myth” and that he did “everything to spoil” the Ivory Coast midfielder’s last season at the club.

In an interview with France Football magazine, Touré – who left City in May after eight seasons at the club – attacked his former manager who was also his coach at Barcelona.

“He [Guardiola] insists he has no problems with black players, because he is too intelligent to be caught out,” Touré said in an interview with France Football to be published on Tuesday. “But when you realise that he has problems with Africans, wherever he goes, I ask myself questions. He will never admit it. But the day he will line up a team in which we find five Africans, not naturalised, I promise I will send him a cake.”

He also said “Pep likes to dominate and wants to have obedient players who lick his hands,” said Touré. “I do not like this kind of relationship. I respect my coach but I am not his thing. Like all players I have bickered with my coaches. But at a certain point men who do not understand each other reconcile. This is not possible with Pep, who is very rigid. The other players will never admit it publicly but some have already told me that they ended up hating him. Because he manipulates and plays a lot with your head.”

Touré added: “I think I was dealing with someone who just wanted revenge on me. I do not know why but I have the impression that he was jealous of me, that he took me for a rival. There you have it. We always looked at each other weirdly. He was spinning around me without saying anything, watching me, gauging me but not talking to me. Yet he knows that I speak Catalan, Spanish and English. It should be enough to communicate. But apparently no. Every time we passed each other, he seemed embarrassed. As if I made him a little self-conscious. As if, also, he had understood that I knew him perfectly.”

The player also stated that he considered posting his training statistics from the club’s physical trainers on social media in a bid to vent his frustration before deciding against it because he did not want to “hurt the team”.

Touré said: “As someone proud, he wants to succeed with his players, those he has chosen and not those who have been chosen by others. This is his project. And woe to him who does not belong to it. Actually I want to be the one who breaks the Guardiola myth a bit. Barcelona, ​​he did not invent it. He just had the intelligence to adapt what Cruyff had set up. Then, at Bayern and City, he tried to reproduce the same patterns but with this requirement: working with ‘his’ players and with almost unlimited means. It would not work at Crystal Palace or Watford.

“For me Zidane is bigger because he has fewer requirements and shows great respect for all his players. Pep, he wants to be considered a genius. He loves it. But there is a lot of comedy behind all this, it’s a bit of anything. He creates a character. When I see him scratching his head in full match to show that he thinks thoroughly, it makes me laugh. It’s comedy.”

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/04/yaya-toure-pep-guardiola-manchester-city-break-myth

From Yaya point of view he's right I'm a fan
Pep and Yaya . I think pep has issues with players with strong character. He likes to dominate and have control over his players. Some haters will jump into conclusion to criticize Pep right from the days of Barcelona, he went to bayern he proved himself at mancity his first season was bad second Season he won the league in style. Every man will like to have control over his family but people will be quick to criticize pep. At the end point is result, as long as you're getting the result is all that matters. So many coaches have been sacked because of players with strong character. but people won't talk about it, it happened to Mourinho at Madrid, and Chelsea, AVB was also sacked because the lion in the dressing room didn't like him at Chelsea. As a coach any body you feel will make your job difficult you cut him out as long as you're getting the result. I'm African Yaya is a world class but football at the end of the day is business. Some criticize pep that he spent so much at mancity SMH all I see is hate. Go and hold Madrid, man u, Chelsea and man city responsible they all spoiled the transfer market . How much did pep spent when he came to Barcelona??.

alenwup:
But Yaya get bad mouth sha.. See d way he enter Pep... Say him scratching head to make people think he's reading the game is comedy ;DBut Yaya get bad mouth sha.. See d way he enter Pep... Say him scratching head to make people think he's reading the game is comedy

most interesting part of the story!!!

lexy2014:
it is d research we are doing and pls dont 4get that we are trying to draw a connectuon between how italian racism makes pep racist. U said d reason pep is racist is because Italians are racist. And u said this was reflected in d emergence of a far right govt. To my knowledge Silvio berlusconi is d longest serving prime minister of Italy. Was his govt anti immigration? I also asked u, does pep love pizza?

Nzeogwu was born to Igbo parents but those who knew him said he spoke little Igbo and behaved like a Northerner because he was brought up in the North. No one is born a racist, it's a learned behavior. Pep grew up in a place dominated by racism, he probably grew up listening to older folks demeaning black people, that never leaves you! Like I said, he has some serious questions to answer, three black people can't just make an Accusation against him and they let it slide! Fifa should take actions!!

Netanyahu1:
I can't believe am saying this , but I think he's right this man have hatred for yaya. And I don't think he's as good as he's getting credit for.

Africans always claiming to b d victims...nonsense ....dis yaya no get sense ...pep has for no shit with Africans ....yea he's d kinda coach DAT has favorites nd can benca star player when he sees another better player...yaya must b stupid ...pep came to man city when he was 35 so him still wan de play when he get a Kay,Silva,kdb,fernadinho,?pep did d same tin to IBRA, is IBRA an African man? No. This guy should stfu , a coach DAT loved abidal nd keita .

Arondizuogu:
Exactly! They over hype that it's now now funny to be honest! Enrique that nearly sent Roma to relegation came and won a Treble with that team. My 6 year old niece would coach that team and come out victor!

that what pple dont know, pep is a good coach no doubt but he is not on d list of my own gr8 coaches.
although am waiting for pep to manage teams like ac milan nd lyon nd see how far he will take dem without moni 2 spend on big players.

Lol, Yaya toure is a sore loser...Called Guardiola a "comedy".....Lemme give you a rundown of Europeans and Americanas he ostracized

At Barca
Deco
Ronaldinho
Chygrinsky
Ibrahimovic
Zambrottta

At Bayern

Gotze
Martinez

At Man city

Hart
Zabaleta
Nolito
Navas
Dzeko

But but but he's racist, Yeye dey smell!

anonymous1759:
From Yaya point of view he's right I'm a fan
Pep and Yaya . I think pep has issues with players with strong character. He likes to dominate and have control over his players. Some haters will jump into conclusion to criticize Pep right from the days of Barcelona, he went to bayern he proved himself at mancity his first season was bad second Season he won the league in style. Every man will like to have control over his family but people will be quick to criticize pep. At the end point is result, as long as you're getting the result is all that matters. So many coaches have been sacked because of players with strong character. but people won't talk about it, it happened to Mourinho at Madrid, and Chelsea, AVB was also sacked because the lion in the dressing room didn't like him at Chelsea. As a coach any body you feel will make your job difficult you cut him out as long as you're getting the result. I'm African Yaya is a world class but football at the end of the day is business. Some criticize pep that he spent so much at mancity SMH all I see is hate. Go and hold Madrid, man u, Chelsea and man city responsible they all spoiled the transfer market . How much did pep spent when he came to Barcelona??.

exactly ...he's d kinda coach that loves been d only boss ...but saying he's a racist is pure bullshit

Pep is never so spectacular like some of you think. And i have a feeling, he has this thing against african players, and don't tell me it's nations cup, because it's now back with the same time with euros. Let him prove to me he can do some magic with average players, and he will have my full respect. Conte did better with that Chelsea team last season, and he actually spent less doing that. "Fat benitez",made a point by going to Newcastle and they had an average season with virtually zero budget. mourinho has done that in the past with porto, so he has my respect. let Pep spend less, and win a major trophy, then i will send him a puff puff too, and of course it will be spicy.

.man 4get about ys blacks. Its stubborness that is worrying them. Etoi looks and talks stubborn!!


He hates blacks and has sterling...sane...de jesus... and so on.

A serious person cant withstand stubborn people

chukxie:
Yaya has echoed Samuel Eto's sentiment. Eto once gave an interview where he stated emphatically that Pep didn't like him..

Goandie:
dominated with which club?
barca had won d league twice nd champions league before he became their manager and where dominating.

Bayern munich as always bn dominating german fooball just a lil blip wen klop was there nd dey had won d treble before he came their coach.

man city had won the league with both mancini nd pellerini befoe he came.

so bro please explain to mi when you mean dominating

The spotlight here, is on Guardiola AS A COACH. And yes; he has dominated EVERY LEAGUE he was at AS A COACH. The records are there to prove that.

You've obviously missed the point.

Arondizuogu:
Are you seriously asking how the world hates blacks? Chai, I don't think that deserves an answer. Mba I refuse to be part of this folly.

it does deserve an answer. Do u just expect me 2 accept everything u telling me without me asking questions? Earlier, u said u are a researcher so u should no better than just making claims without being able to validate or defend them. If u say "d world", who is d world? Who and who constitutes d world as used by u?Is it d people or d system? How do they hate blacks? Its a valid question that u should even feel eager to throw light on if d subject of racism means anything 2u. There's a fine line between sentiment and logic. I believe in logic and reason. So enlighten me on how u came 2d conclusion that d world hates blacks

etibaba:
You definitely don't know the meaning of the word Racist i guess you probably read or hear people use the word and you love the way it sound.
A racist wouldn't care if you are from Africa or not, a racist is against your origin, skin colour so if Pep is really a racist i see no reason Keita will stay all through Pep's stay at Barca, Danilo, G. Jesus, Sane, Mendy where all acquired under Pep, lastly Sterling and Delph had more playing time under Pep than Managers before him.

Read and comprehend. I never called Pep a racist, my point is, he’s not a racist, that’s why I stated that out of his starting 11, 7 of those are of black origin

Arondizuogu:
I keep telling people the the baldy is a fraud.. they always say he won the league with 100 points! Give Derby County the kinda money he spent, they would win the Champions League. He ain't that good, overrated piece of shit. Lost three years in a row at Bayern, destroyed a very good Bayern set up by Jupp!!

see dis one ....yaya is a big fool ,did zidane win d UCL with crystal palace? How much did he spend? ...mourinho spent as much as him but man utd still plays d worst kinda football in EPL ....he's a fraud nd he did d impossible in EPL.....winning d EPL b4 December ? U must b high ....WHO DID THIS TO YOU ,I WANT TO KNOW.

etibaba:
You definitely don't know the meaning of the word Racist i guess you probably read or hear people use the word and you love the way it sound.
A racist wouldn't care if you are from Africa or not, a racist is against your origin, skin colour so if Pep is really a racist i see no reason Keita will stay all through Pep's stay at Barca, Danilo, G. Jesus, Sane, Mendy where all acquired under Pep, lastly Sterling and Delph had more playing time under Pep than Managers before him.

Yaya said Africans and not naturalized Europeans. Those ones are not Africans, they can't even say where they came from in Africa again!
And please don't say I don't know what a racist is, you might be smarter than me, I don't know but never you underestimate my intelligence again!

Goandie:
dominated with which club?
barca had won d league twice nd champions league before he became their manager and where dominating.

Bayern munich as always bn dominating german fooball just a lil blip wen klop was there nd dey had won d treble before he came their coach.

man city had won the league with both mancini nd pellerini befoe he came.

so bro please explain to mi when you mean dominating

Point of correction, Barcelona were in a shambles before Pep took over as they barely qualified for the UCL in Rijkaard's final season (Came fourth) and had just been dumped out of the UCL semifinals by Man utd. It is indisputable that Pep revolutionalized Barca. Yes, Messi might have made his job easier but his intelligence was what enabled Messi to realize his full potential in the first place by eliminating unhealthy influence in the person of Ronaldinho and Deco, which also allowed Iniesta and Xavi to flourish. He also changed the way Barca played football. So don't belittle his achievements without basis.

I don't know why people hate pep this much. man u could have won the league with there point tally in another season. pep is great, if you are a strong character and don't bend to his pattern he send you out. yaya na mumu, alaba and boateng na white player's

Netanyahu1:
I can't believe am saying this , but I think he's right this man have hatred for yaya. And I don't think he's as good as he's getting credit for.

As in how? Na wa for some people o always trying to ridicule someone's effort. That's how some people will always try to belittle David o's effort by telling him his father money made him who he's forgetting that we've so many ajebutter who didn't make it as big as David o... SMH, I'm not a cr7 fan but a fan of Messi. But there's no way I'll try to belittle his five world best just because I'm not his fan. It's not easy. You guys said the same thing about Messi that he's not good he's surrounded by good players. Is the same thing not happening to cr7 right now? Did he get to play anything in the UCL final? Hello no, but his team did you job for the glory of the team. Player and coach work hand in hand. Peps first season you guys criticized him, his second he shut all his critics mouth up. He didn't just win the league he won it in style... Learn to appreciate all this bad belle won't help.

Goandie:
dominated with which club?
barca had won d league twice nd champions league before he became their manager and where dominating.

Bayern munich as always bn dominating german fooball just a lil blip wen klop was there nd dey had won d treble before he came their coach.

man city had won the league with both mancini nd pellerini befoe he came.

so bro please explain to mi when you mean dominating

barca became d greatest of d 21st century when pep came..... Stop hating, dude is the best coach of the 21st century. How many leagues were with d barca team b4 he came....nd now barca has won 7 league titles in 10 yrs ...stop hating ,he's better than mourinho .

anonymous1759:
As in how? Na wa for some people o always trying to ridicule someone's effort. That's how some people will always try to belittle David o's effort by telling him his father money made him who he's forgetting that we've so many ajebutter who didn't make it as big as David o... SMH, I'm not a cr7 fan but a fan of Messi. But there's no way I'll try to belittle his five world best just because I'm not his fan. It's not easy. You guys said the same thing about Messi that he's not good he's surrounded by good players. Is the same thing not happening to cr7 right now? Did he get to play anything in the UCL final? Hello no, but his team did you job for the glory of the team. Player and coach work hand in hand. Peps first season you guys criticized him, his second he shut all his critics mouth up. He didn't just win the league he won it in style... Learn to appreciate all this bad belle won't help.

exactly, all this pained EPL fanboys ,especially man utd fans

lexy2014:
it does deserve an answer. Do u just expect me 2 accept everything u telling me without me asking questions? Earlier, u said u are a researcher so u should no better than just making claims without being able to validate or defend them. If u say "d world", who is d world? Who and who constitutes d world as used by u?Is it d people or d system? How do they hate blacks? Its a valid question that u should even feel eager to throw light on if d subject of racism means anything 2u. There's a fine line between sentiment and logic. I believe in logic and reason. So enlighten me on how u came 2d conclusion that d world hates blacks

I said what I said.. I am not answering that...