don4real18:
Workfor__ collects 50%. Make I no spell the name finish

FortifiedCity:
Being exceptional in what you do

EgunMogaji:


Don’t mind some of them.

If you go in as a contractor and prove yourself then you may get picked up.

As an employer, why would I waste resources to board and then have to fire an employee that didn’t work out.

Hakeem12:
Exactly. I tell people over and over. The future belongs to the competent, those who are very good at what they do.

Eagba:
same way some women at the idp camp have a choice of starving to death or sleep with soldiers for food.
Well Once work through an outsourcer, later got close to my employer struck a deal and sack my outsourcer. That's who i am

sholay2011:

What kind of selfish mentality is this? How many people will "prove themselves to get picked up" when the system as a whole treats the average person as a modern-day slave?

Are you really serious?

BlueRayDick:


Just like someone advised you earlier, stop playing smart because you are lucky.

I work as a full staff too but I've seen the kind of struggles outsourced staff go through. I know of a popular company I won't name that employs contract staff through outsourcing companies who fill vacant roles in some key departments.

This same company has a graduate trainee programme they do yearly which the average Joe on the street won't hear about except you have an internal source or you are just lucky someone mentions it to your hearing. If you are lucky to get in through the graduate trainee, you get employed as a full staff, get health insurance, entitled to profit sharing, paid leave, paid training, and other benefits.

Meanwhile the contract staff possess the same qualifications, performs the same job function as the graduate trainee but gets paid a basic salary which is not up to 50% of the graduate trainees salary and has no access to any of the benefits stated above. He is also not eligible for promotion and not entitled to conversion to a full staff.

Now tell me if this makes sense at all. Rather, kindly give me any justification for this.

Jethrolite:
Lol, can I cash out your response in English at the nearest ATM? No, then keep it.

jaxxy:



Its modern day slavery to treat people as second class citizens and workers in their own country/cooperation. ITS modern day slavery to employ a British hair dresser as a skol proprietor and make ur fellow Nigerian with waec or Nce a ganitor or cleaner. IT'S modern day slavery to not have DIGNITY OF LABOUR. ITs modern day slavery to not REGULATE outsourcing coy and allow them to completely rob workers of all allowances and benefits accrued to them. ITS MODERN DAY SLAVERY for Monkey to work and Baboon to chop!

Mcquine:


Most of them saying all this might still have their Parents or Guardian still paying their bills.

When reality hits them they'll all mellow down.

We live in a Jungle where survival is the only option.

I pray God see us through.

Janyves:
Before any deal is struck...... Prospective employees are given the outsourcing firm's terms and conditions. So its plain clear to em what they(employees) are about stepping into. It gets messy when the terms are further reviewed to the advantage of the outsourcing firms.

The good ones take like 20% off your first salary and that's all, while the evil ones feed on your salary for as long as you remain their staff, while denying the staff some benefit's enjoyed by core staffs of wherever the employee is posted.

I believe every prospective employee has a choice to either accept or deny any job offer that can be best described as "SLAVERY"

EgunMogaji:


Even if 2,000,000 Nairalanders give me advise, I'll most likely use it to wipe my a$$. You and your advice are of no worth to me.

You should focus on improving your professional life.

chrisbaxtian:
@oga smithsammy, some hr firms collect as much as 50% of the salary meant for the contract staff! I don't think any collects less than 30%. it is the unfortunate norm in the labour market today in Nigeria. imagine a graduate earning N40,000 after hr consultant has collected his own share

EgunMogaji:


I continue to disagree.

And you should be ashamed to use that analogy in which you had/have a choice but you fail to exercise it.

Those unlucky souls caught in actual slavery are those that earn my sympathy.

You went to apply for a contract job and you're now complaining?

EgunMogaji:


Don’t mind some of them.

If you go in as a contractor and prove yourself then you may get picked up.

As an employer, why would I waste resources to board and then have to fire an employee that didn’t work out.

flexyrule:
Someone mentioned earlier that you shouldn't act like you're smart... Simply because you're fortunate..
Need I reiterate that point to you again?

BlueRayDick:


Alright,goodluck to u in the path of ignorance you've chosen as your way of life.

jaxxy:


U fail to see that the way our system is set up not everybody has a choice not everybody is lucky to have smtn to fall back on. The bad economy pushes alot of graduates to bad working conditions which shud be illegal in civilized climes. Just recently we heard wat happened to a graduate of a 1st generation bank. They shud rather not employ if they can't meet certain working conditions. It is deplorable. I feel sad for people with no better options

EgunMogaji:


And like I told that other unknown userid, I don't give two rats patootoo about your convoluted and unrequested opinion.

How's that?

EgunMogaji:


And like I told that other unknown userid, I don't give two rats patootoo about your convoluted and unrequested opinion.

How's that?

Mcquine:
Nigerians complain a lot.

You get a job and you don't like the offer you quit!

Why trouble yourself with outsource and no outsource after years of sitting at home unemployed.

The country is bad make do with what you have and make other plans for the future.

Do you plan on working your entire life for a boss? F**k NO!

Make do with what you have now that you're still young instead of whining like an entitled spoilt brat and chart your way to success.

Stay here and complain while others are already planning ahead.


Nigerians complaint too much.

flexyrule:
Enjoy your folly then.

flexyrule:
Enjoy your folly then. It is iredeemable.

davit:
Hmmm. I can relate to this very well. [b]I haven't taken KPMG offer till date because I refused to be seconded to their company. [/b]ICSL has sent me there 3 times. They too have invited me over for up to 10 times after passing their exam. But I refused to take their offer. Second class staffer? No. I won't take such.
For those taking side in this inhuman act, I know they have never been there. Also maybe cos some are still job hunting and are ready to take whatever that is throwing at them. My people, you will get to understand better by the time you discover that main staff of the coy you re seconded to take home about times 5 of what you get.
The situation is so pathetic. But who do we turn to?
Thanks OP for bringing this up.

EgunMogaji:


Outsourcing is the way that most modern employment occurs. It is very popular here.

20 years or so ago I got this job that I'll be retiring from in a couple of years in as a Contractor. My case is not unique, very common.

EgunMogaji:


You're confusing me.

A) Are you arguing that there are jobs but only available through HR companies? If so I continue to stand by my opinion. Listen Seun doesn't ask us to agree but just to be civil. You won't change my opinion that HR companies are a good thing.

B) Are you arguing that Nigeria employment scene is littered with potholes and false traps? I agree but so is the USA. You guys think that Nigeria is the only country in the world with unemployment.

LeJeun3:




At bolded, where you able to negotiate terms??

Or work for changes with the period the job lasted??

EgunMogaji:


Nope. You'll hear my opinion.

Remeber that you quoted me. Until then you were nothing but an unknown userid.

jaxxy:



Nope im not saying hr companies are not good they are bt sm are terrible and rip off's, and shud be shut down completely for modern day slavery. I know a few good and highly rated ones like kpmg etc however sm are shams. I believe companies including hr companies shud have standards. U don't have to agree with me its my clear opinion.

My point is they need to be regulated!