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oyb:
our ex ceo entered the company as a contract staff. five years later he was ceo.

life in the end , is what one makes of it. most of the contract guys who worked under us are now full time employees in other companies.

i will always remember one of our most difficult projects. this youth corper attached to the contractor went out of his way to go the extra mile, every step of the way. meanwhile, there was this guy older than him in the system, who had approached each of us for help /job - who basically started 'missing in action' when the job got hard. less than a month later, we needed a guy, and we immediately engaged the youth corper, even though he had no previous working experience. we had to let the guy go , but he almost immediately got another job with a related party. this guy's dad is dead, he is not connected in any way, but the doors opened for him.

most of these guys are all entitlement and no offering.

offtopic as you are an ibadan guy, i guarantee that once your car workshop business takes off - my ex ceo will hunt you down and try to partner you with castrol.

EgunMogaji:
You're confusing me.

A) Are you arguing that there are jobs but only available through HR companies? If so I continue to stand by my opinion. Listen Seun doesn't ask us to agree but just to be civil. You won't change my opinion that HR companies are a good thing.

B) Are you arguing that Nigeria employment scene is littered with potholes and false traps? I agree but so is the USA. You guys think that Nigeria is the only country in the world with unemployment.

davit:
Hmmm. I can relate to this very well. I haven't taken KPMG offer till date because I refused to be seconded to their company. ICSL has sent me there 3 times. They too have invited me over for up to 10 times after passing their exam. But I refused to take their offer. Second class staffer? No. I won't take such.
For those taking side in this inhuman act, I know they have never been there. Also maybe cos some are still job hunting and are ready to take whatever that is throwing at them. My people, you will get to understand better by the time you discover that main staff of the coy you re seconded to take home about times 5 of what you get.
The situation is so pathetic. But who do we turn to?
Thanks OP for bringing this up.

Reasonabledoubt:

Lots of people take contract jobs, as a stepping stone. It offers you working experience while you search for something better.
It is only those that do not think they can do better that get stuck in the system.

It is people that take these offers then start comparing themselves with full staff, loosing sight of what their end goal is. I have seen lots of graduates with zero experience use this route to build work experience, and move on to better things.

samuelson06:
You are simply making noise thinking you make sense. What future can you plan with 40k per month when you leave home by 6am and come back 8pm in a place like Lagos, having your so-called job take all of your time? You can only talk about planning when you are able to save from what you earn. What can you save from 40k considering feeding and house rent? Learn to think before you talk.

peterswagg:
This is heartbreaking.After working tirelessly to earn a certificate only to be employed by `two’ firms and be paid a meager amount of money.I don’t understand how Nigeria works,it seems as if no ministry,body,force and even unions is doing anything like what the Bleep is labour union doing.Everyone is indeed a criminal.

kingola87:
This shouldn't be happening in 21st century but as usual, a deaf hear will be turned to this.
Imagine someone working from morning till evening earning 25,000 while the hr company or whatsoever will pocket one third of ones salary.

We have no mercy for ourselves in this country self.

oyb:
this. i have actually made that same mistake. during a training, there was this lady in HR and she basically said, you should not spend more than 5 years in any company or you will wind up limiting yourself.

this is even more important for contract staff. unfortunately nigerians tend to fall into complacency and do not always understand that some of the jobs they are doing are not high value. eg - call center operators.

Kingzy4pep:
And what baffles me about this whole thing is that the labour ministry is fully aware that something like this is going on and nothing is being done to stop it.
It's really painful.

And if you really take a look at the job position that's being contracted to these outsourcing firms, You'd observe that they are even more demanding than that of the full time staffs.

EasterDell:
This is actually a national emergency and has concentrated wealth at the top!
- Banking,
- Oil & Gas,
- Telecoms,
and many other lucrative industries to work in have become manufacturing grounds for graduate poverty!

E.g. (Oil & Gas) approved salaries for drivers in Total E&P from France HQ is above 450k per month. But the so called HR companies managing the drivers don't pay them more than 80k monthly. This caused major strikes in 2013. Today companies like Shell, Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, etc suffer same agitations

This has been debated in the house of reps. But like people cursed by the gods, we seem uneager to address any issue deemed important (e.g. PIB is taking 8yrs to pass)... Yet useless bills like "not too young to run", are quickly passed and signed by Mr. President in weeks.

Sapiosexuality:
Not really...This thread broke it down. It's like a deal you are striking with someone. It becomes slavery when the deal is not fair.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/list-of-job-recruitment-agencies-in-lagos/

peterswagg:
This is heartbreaking.After working tirelessly to earn a certificate only to be employed by `two’ firms and be paid a meager amount of money.I don’t understand how Nigeria works,it seems as if no ministry,body,force and even unions is doing anything like what the Bleep is labour union doing.Everyone is indeed a criminal.

Reasonabledoubt:
While you keep refusing that KPMG offer, another youth with a purpose in sight will take it.

Make sure he works and networks with the people there that make sense, get that big 4 experience in his cv, and then port to another big4, or any other firm as a full staff.

kingola87:
This shouldn't be happening in 21st century but as usual, a deaf hear will be turned to this.
Imagine someone working from morning till evening earning 25,000 while the hr company or whatsoever will pocket one third of ones salary.

We have no mercy for ourselves in this country self.

chuksanambra:
Jim Ovia owns Zenith Bank and his wife owns Peopleplus while his daughter owns Zenith Insurance.

They employ graduates and pay 70k as contract staff. Peopleplus as the outsourcing firm deducts 30 which leaves the staff with 40k as salary.

Later on, Zenith Insurance absorbs the staff and keeps paying that 40K.

I hope you see the cycle?

Viking007:
@emboldened is 100% true. Most outsourcing firms collect way above 30%, a situation where the expected salary is 180k, you are getting 100k, and there is nothing you can do about it. Jobs are scarce.

Funkybabee:
It is one of our wicked acts in Nigeria, why don't u collect a percentage when get the job instead of deducting from their salaries every month,May God help Nigerian

BlueRayDick:
It is now being used in virtually all sectors of the economy.
Firms like ICSL and workforce would make you as a fresh graduate go through a rigorous recruitment and selection process, you would think you have finally gotten your big break only to be seconded to another firm where you will have to work more than everybody there and get paid the peanuts which will still be deducted by the outsource firms.

It's really terrible. Each time I see contract staff, I feel pity for them. Maybe because I imagine I could've been in their shoes..

The annoying part is after working for 3 to 4 years, the outsourcing firm terminates their appointment and they employ fresh hands to replace them.

I wish those outsourcing firms can be prescribed because they don't add anything to our economy, rather they induce suffering and hardship which they help the principal company to deliver on the staff.

What makes it slavery is; they ensure it is embedded in their terms and conditions that the outsourced staff cannot be converted to full staff by the principal company

kristen12:
Labour laws in Nigeria is just trash, they can't try it in Ghana.

Heard if one that collects as much as 70% and it's unfair because most people don't have a choice.

I'll rather look for something to engage me and wait instead of slaving myself out.

MIKOLOWISKA:
go start your own bank and insurance company na as e easy

wristbangle:
This system of employment is a greedy and stiff-neck way of ripping candidates.

Who ever brought this method to this country is nothing but a wicked fellow and deserves to rot in hell.

Outsourcing in a sane environment allows third party have access to an organisation system/operation at the expense of not removing the benefits attached to the workforce team but here in Nigeria,

they enslaved them with huge responsibilities and threaten to lay them off despite impressive performance.

The useless labour law in the country are doing nothing owing to the bribe being received from the default organisations. What a shame!

EgunMogaji:
I agree with you.

The bad ones should be shunned by candidates. They'll self terminate when they don't have cleints and employees.

Green222:
I am working in one so I can tell you what they go thru. I am working as an outsourced staff in a bank presently. The bank pays to the company who in turned pay us without us having ideas of what the bank is paying them. In every other aspects we are a staff of the Bank but when it is wages and benefits,they refer to us as staff of the outsourced company. I remember when we are transferred from an outsourcing company to another, they pay us just one month in lieu and the new company gave us a fresh offer letter starting from the day they took over. Those that have spent several years lost all those years and became a new staff in the new company. Salary increments of 10k is like every four years and the outsourced company cannot request for review cos they don't want to be disbanded. Worst of all, you don't know how much is being deducted from your salary and you don't dare ask. I heard recently that the Security Supervisors at the regional level is been given N500/ each security staff under his supervision , so think of what those H/office HR that contract them will get monthly. Outsourcing deductions is been shared among the the company and the executive management. Outsourcing is slavery and Nigeria Govt turn a deaf ear to this modern day slavery

chuksanambra:
Jim Ovia owns Zenith Bank and his wife owns Peopleplus while his daughter owns Zenith Insurance.

They employ graduates and pay 70k as contract staff. Peopleplus as the outsourcing firm deducts 30 which leaves the staff with 40k as salary.

Later on, Zenith Insurance absorbs the staff and keeps paying that 40K.

I hope you see the cycle?

MyPWisINCORRECT:
This is how Shell Petroleum Development Company and AlphaMead Facilities and Management Services have turned able bodied men and women into slaves at SPDC Port Harcourt.

God please deliver us from evil. It is traumatic being in an environment where someone working in the same building and probably does less work than you yet earns 10 times your salary and flaunts it right in front of you.

jaxxy:
Its modern day slavery to treat people as second class citizens and workers in their own country/cooperation. ITS modern day slavery to employ a British hair dresser as a skol proprietor

and make ur fellow Nigerian with waec or Nce a ganitor or cleaner.

IT'S modern day slavery to not have DIGNITY OF LABOUR. ITs modern day slavery to not REGULATE outsourcing coy and allow them to completely rob workers of all allowances and benefits accrued to them.

ITS MODERN DAY SLAVERY for Monkey to work and Baboon to chop!

MIKOLOWISKA:
don't worry
you will soon need employees and see how easy it is to find good staff
by the time your roadside staff crash your business once or twice your eye will clear
did they hold gun to staff head?

BlueRayDick:
You are not even making any sense. What has contract staff/ permanent staff argument got to do with finding a good staff. So it is your believe a contract staff deserves to be treated like shiiite because they are not good staff as good staff are difficult to find? Smh.

Only God knows how some of you reason like goats.

I am not a victim of the unfair system but it is only fair to speak against something that affects the teeming population in a negative way.

Why am I even surprised? It is selfish people like you who would keep quite when evil is being meted out to others that are one of the problems of this country.