Fyorgyn:


That does not mean it is illegal and wrong which was your conclusion in the first instance.

I said it's illegal to stay in U.S when your stay was not extended at POE.

Rol3nd:
Base on present and past posts.... Whosoever is that @seyewest i just don't like you for any reason...

Will your like affect my account or yours?

OmoBendel24:
Will help out here.... Even if you arrive at the front of a CBP Officer a day to the expiration of your visa, it's not illegal. Just have a reasonable purpose of visit. Our sister that asked this question here today actually wants to go birth in the US.

My take on this in the light of recent happenings is that if she has previously used the visa for the purpose for which it was issued, she

1. Can go ahead and make the trip before visa expiration arming herself with the famous "burden of proof". Worse case scenario, she will be stamped in till the date on her ticket's return leg instead of the normal 6 months which of course isn't even bad as long as travel plans made are tight/concrete.

2. Can first be sure of, and prepare her "burden of proof". Do her dropbox application indicating B2 specifically as her reason for application, use the doctor's name for her "contact person in the US", and then hope she won't be called in for an interview, and even if they did, she should go with her prepared "burden of proof" and ace the interview hopefully.

3. Can just give all this up, schedule an interview appointment and of her own accord go in for the interview as one going to birth and state it all as it is, backing this up with her prepared "burden of proof".

However, if the expiring visa wasn't issued for birthing and hasn't been used for the purpose of issuance, don't even try doing 1 above, the risks and likely punishments ain't no joke.

Number 3 normally is the best thing to do, but times are different. So, if you know you have the capacity to birth in the US but are only afraid of the interview and ain't exactly sure your prepared ""burden of proof" will cut it at the embassy interview, please do number 1, that's if your previous visa has been used appropriately. By this I mean for instance, some people can easily cough out the required $15-20k for birthing in about a month, but their 6-Month bank statement if faced with an interview will mess them up.

So, why take the interview risk right now when you are actually not doing anything wrong? Why not just go birth now and prepare your burden of proof for the future renewal? Most important is to be truthful at POE to the CBP Officer, it will be on record!

My question is this, What will happen if nothing was done to her visa at POE (No stay extension) can she stay in U.S legally till Jan meanwhile her visa will expire in Nov.

seyewest:


I said it's illegal to stay on a visa they was not extended at POE.

Seye my broda, they don't extend visas, they can allow you stay in the US (180 days at the most at POE by CBPP if on B1/B2) more than the validity left on your visa but not more than left on your passport. Also, you can extend this time approved for you to stay in the US, but that is the one that if you do, disqualifies you for dropbox.

seyewest:


They asked them why they didn't wait till their visa expired before reapplying and asked them few random questions before re-issuing them the visa.

They applied before their Visa expired?

OmoBendel24:


Seye my broda, they don't extend visas, they can allow you stay in the US (180 days at the most at POE by CBPP if on B1/B2) more than the validity left on your visa but not more than left on your passport. Also, you can extend this time approved for you to stay in the US, but that is the one that if you do, disqualifies you for dropbox.

Sorry I mean stay.

NothingDoMe:
They applied before their Visa expired?

Yes they did, they have less than 3 months left on their visa.

seyewest:


Yes they did, they have less than 3 months left on their visa.

So it means their case is not the same as chababy's.

seyewest:


My question is this, What will happen if nothing was done to her visa at POE (No extension) can she stay in U.S legally till Jan meanwhile her visa will expire in Nov.

For her to be allowed into the US she will declare how long she's staying. If she lies about this and isn't granted the hoped-for 6 months, that's where her wahala will begin. Let's say they approve a month's stay for her which of course won't be enough for birthing, her last resort then will be to ask for an extension of the days approved for her (she remains in status till application is determined), whether granted or not, as long as she stays a day more than was approved at the POE she's automatically disqualified for dropbox in the future. If her extension application on US soil fails, she has to leave the US at the time set without delays at all. She stays more than the date given in this case she goes out of status and that is grave with grave consequences too.

OmoBendel24:


For her to be allowed into the US she will declare how long she's staying. If she lies about this and isn't granted the hoped-for 6 months, that's where her wahala will begin. Let's say they approve month's stay for her which of course won't be enough for birthing, her last resort then will be to ask for an extension of the days approved for her (she remains in status till application is determined), whether granted or not, as long as she stays a day more than was approved at the POE she's automatically disqualified for dropbox in the future. If her extension application on US soil fails, she has to leave the US at the time set without delays at all. She stays more than the date given in this case she goes out of status and that is grave with grave consequences too.

I may not have answered her question the right way but I've learned so much from this ( Especially not knowing it's for birthing purpose) and I think she should be grateful for this. I rest my case, thanks @Omobendel

NothingDoMe:
So it means their case is not the same as chababy's.

The reason I referenced them was the case of re-applying before expiration of visa.

winterstorm:


Very true.
I saw the communication between the guy in window 5 and the line Lady. It was really amazing. They are just humans after all.
I believe they love to work in Nigeria, which is why they are here. So if they are just doing their job, then the solutions to the B1/B2 visa - as I observed - is traveling to two countries, two years within your application, calmness and a good reason for your visit.

I for one would be tempted to slip a number or a hint as to where I hang out. However i don't think I'd succumb to that temptation because I'd be like a properly trained and professional VO and would act the part. Besides, big brother is watching so I'd behave. Outwardly though .

Inwardly I'd hug and shake hands with applicants. I'd give the snob and snotty a piece of my mind. The fraudulent ones will not cease to hear of how disappointed their parents would be at their actions.

NothingDoMe:

I for one would be tempted to slip a number or a hint as to where I hang out. However i don't think I'd succumb to that temptation because I'd be like a properly trained and professional VO and would act the part. Besides, big brother is watching so I'd behave. Outwardly though .

Inwardly I'd hug and shake hands with applicants. I'd give the snob and snotty a piece of my mind. The fraudulent ones will not cease to hear of how disappointed their parents would be at their actions.

Lolz! When it's time to be official and doing your job, you better be. And when it's time to be unofficial and off duty, you can be someone else. While doing my job and you come across as someone I need to see later, I sure will, somehow, someway, but I have got to do my job.

seyewest:


I may not have answered her question the right way but I've learned so much from this ( Especially not knowing it's for birthing purpose) and I think she should be grateful for this. I rest my case, thanks @Omobendel

You are welcome bro! Chanbaby is someone that has even birthed in the US sef, I believe she understands the intricacies of this. I'm however worried on three grounds for her, the first being if the visa in question was issued for birthing purpose or was used for the purpose it was issued first before birthing. The others being that I see a Canada twist too, and I wonder why she didn't ask this question in the birthing thread where she is actually a key follower. Well, well! All well and good....

It's not illegal and it is not wrong. A visa gives your permission to get to the port of entry, it doesn't guarantee access to the US, once at the port of entry the immigration officers decide who enters the US and the duration for their stay.
Don't be agitated, you can stay as long as the immigration guy stamps you in. If you have any other concerns, please send a mail to the consular.
Cheers.

Chanbaby:
pls can one travel to the US in Oct with a visa that will expire in Nov and stay till Jan? Will there b an issue?

OmoBendel24:


Lolz! When it's time to be official and doing your job, you better be. And when it's time to be unofficial and of duty, you can be someone else. While doing my job and you come across as someone I need to see later, I sure will, somehow, someway, but I have got to do my job.

This almost happen to my colleague, the V.O was going crazy over her... she almost gave him her number because she's single..

NothingDoMe:

I for one would be tempted to slip a number or a hint as to where I hang out. However i don't think I'd succumb to that temptation because I'd be like a properly trained and professional VO and would act the part. Besides, big brother is watching so I'd behave. Outwardly though .

Inwardly I'd hug and shake hands with applicants. I'd give the snob and snotty a piece of my mind. The fraudulent ones will not cease to hear of how disappointed their parents would be at their actions .

You no go kill me ooo
Do you know how many seconds one can last outside as a VO....

ayenikunle:

Delete his number please.

joungblood:


No I don't have travel history
I post my number because I need people to help me, anyway, so anyone can contact me too..
Is posting numbers against the rules? I don't really know much about the rules here, so of it is I'm sorry
Why do u say fraud? Fraud on what? My visa or me posting this here

You booked appointment already since. And you even don't have a conference you are attending till now, barely a few days to your interview? You are changing strategy on which should work better for you.... To go to the US and not come back again, abi? Issorai, kontinu!

Is that the only phone number you have?

seyewest:


My question is this, What will happen if nothing was done to her visa at POE (No stay extension) can she stay in U.S legally till Jan meanwhile her visa will expire in Nov.

A visa grants you access to show up at the POE and request access into the US (or any country).., the length of stay granted each time you present yourself is at the discretion of the CBP at the POE.
So if you have 1 month left on your visa, you can show up at the POE. Wether the CBP stamps you in for 6months or less is at his discretion but staying for 4months is NOT illegal.
The length of stay granted at the POE is not dependent on the time left on the visa.

joungblood:


No I don't have travel history
I post my number because I need people to help me, anyway, so anyone can contact me too..
Is posting numbers against the rules? I don't really know much about the rules here, so of it is I'm sorry
Why do u say fraud? Fraud on what? My visa or me posting this here

Unscrupulous people can use your phone number for fraud.

sugah:



A visa grants you access to show up at the POE and request access into the US (or any country).., the length of stay granted each time you present yourself is at the discretion of the CBP at the POE.
So if you have 1 month left on your visa, you can show up at the POE. Wether the CBP stamps you in for 6months or less is at his discretion but staying for 4months is NOT illegal.
The length of stay granted at the POE is not dependent on the time left on the visa.

I know and that was not the intended message I want to pass across. Thanks

Yes you can.
I know of someone that travelled in May with about 9 days validity to her visa and there were no hassles. I had travelled with 12 days validity on my visa in the past and no one raised an eyebrow at the POE.

Chanbaby:
pls can one travel to the US in Oct with a visa that will expire in Nov and stay till Jan? Will there b an issue?

@ the bolded, still not true sir. The expiration date of a US visa is the last date by which you are allowed into the US with that particular visa. Your duration of stay is determined by the CBP officer at the POE. You could only run into problems if you overstay your duration as indicated on the Admission stamp at the POE.

seyewest:


It was not a false conclusion I only advice you based on my experience, What I know is that even if your stay is extended at POE, you will be invited for interview when next you applied for renewal through dropbox because you need to explain why you stayed a day extra after expiration of your visa in U.S,it's left for you to explain yourself, this you can not escape.
If I've offended you I'm very sorry.

I saw that Just.wise has closed lagos.niv's and abuja.niv's threads this morning.

I really miss them and i hope they come back someday.

OmoBendel24:

Is that the only phone number you have?

Lol