capitalzero:


May be this will help and stop displaying your stupidity especially in front of your students. lecturer my foot.

Separation of prescribing and dispensing, also called dispensing separation, is a practice in medicine and pharmacy in which the physician who provides a medical prescription is independent from the
pharmacist who provides the prescription drug.
In the Western world there are centuries of tradition for separating pharmacists from physicians. In Asian countries it is traditional for physicians to also provide drugs.
In contemporary time researchers and health policy analysts have more deeply considered these traditions and their effects. Advocates for separation and advocates for combining make similar claims for each of their conflicting perspectives, saying that separating or combining reduces conflict of interest in the healthcare industry,
unnecessary health care , and lowers costs, while the opposite causes those things. Research in various places reports mixed outcomes in different circumstances.
Background
In jurisdictions (such as the United States ),
pharmacists are regulated separately from
physicians. These jurisdictions also usually specify that only pharmacists may supply scheduled pharmaceuticals to the public, and that pharmacists cannot form business
partnerships with physicians or give them "kickback" payments. However, the American Medical Association (AMA) Code of Ethics provides that physicians may dispense drugs within their office practices as long as there is no patient exploitation and patients have the right to a written prescription that can be filled elsewhere. 7 to 10 percent of American physicians practices reportedly dispense drugs on their own.[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_prescribing_and_dispensing

yes abroad. you still haven't told me how separation is there in Nigeria where you open a clinic and put one ND holder in charge of the pharmacy. it's not a crime for one ND holder to be in charge of your Pharmacy but it's a crime for the pharmacist to prescribe!!!

that was why I raised that issue in the post you quoted

capitalzero:


May be this will help and stop displaying your stupidity especially in front of your students. lecturer my foot.

Separation of prescribing and dispensing, also called dispensing separation, is a practice in medicine and pharmacy in which the physician who provides a medical prescription is independent from the
pharmacist who provides the prescription drug.
In the Western world there are centuries of tradition for separating pharmacists from physicians. In Asian countries it is traditional for physicians to also provide drugs.
In contemporary time researchers and health policy analysts have more deeply considered these traditions and their effects. Advocates for separation and advocates for combining make similar claims for each of their conflicting perspectives, saying that separating or combining reduces conflict of interest in the healthcare industry,
unnecessary health care , and lowers costs, while the opposite causes those things. Research in various places reports mixed outcomes in different circumstances.
Background
In jurisdictions (such as the United States ),
pharmacists are regulated separately from
physicians. These jurisdictions also usually specify that only pharmacists may supply scheduled pharmaceuticals to the public, and that pharmacists cannot form business
partnerships with physicians or give them "kickback" payments. However, the American Medical Association (AMA) Code of Ethics provides that physicians may dispense drugs within their office practices as long as there is no patient exploitation and patients have the right to a written prescription that can be filled elsewhere. 7 to 10 percent of American physicians practices reportedly dispense drugs on their own.[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_prescribing_and_dispensing

Are you aware that pharmacists also specialize in areas such as O$G, Psychiatry, cardiology,nephrology etc

Ever heard about prescribing pharmacists

Jaideyone:
actually I learn all I know as as herbalist apprentice

pharmacists see patients everyday and prescribe in pharmacy shops.
so pharmacists can't diagnose? and pharmacists only major in production?
buhahahahaha your ignorance is oozing like body odour

clinicals for Pharmacy students starts from 400-500L. what is diagnosis? is it not to observe signs and symptoms and send the patient to the lab to confirm if there is a need? so only doctors do that in Nigeria now? hehehehehe

and uncle pharmacists don't major in production alone. pharmacy includes pharmaceutics (which includes production), pharmacology (everything about the drug when it enters the body), pharmacognosy (study of natural remedies), clinical pharmacy and pharmaceutical chemistry.


so how are all those departments which have different courses under them just about production? you know nothing about pharmacy as a course

you clowns are highly ignorant


cc capitalzero

thank God ur problem remain the ishh of doctor and pharmacist work descriptions....


so let me now ask u since u wana know more than international standard procedure,
even a pharmacist will not say that coz they known their limit

Oya u

differentiate between Med Doctor and pharmacist

danilmo:


thank God ur problem remain the ishh of doctor and pharmacist work descriptions....


so let me now ask u since u wana know more than international standard procedure,
even a pharmacist will not say that coz they known their limit

Oya u

differentiate between Med Doctor and pharmacist

in the normal hospital setting (in developed countries) the doctor prescribes and the pharmacist will advice further on whether the prescription can fly or not. the pharmacist holds the power to change the prescription based on availability of the medication, condition of the patient (in which case the pharmacist will have to talk to the doctor to remind him of oversights) and dosage mistakes.

the question is how many hospitals/clinics in Nigeria employ qualified pharmacists that can do what I wrote up there?

the truth remains that the pharmacist knows more about drugs/medicaments than the doctor!!! while you spend 5 out of 6yrs doing anatomy, histology, parasitology, biochemistry, physiology and other non drug components of your program the pharmacist spends 4 out of 5yrs concentrating on everything drugs alone!!!

you as a doctor will not do pharmacognosy, pharmaceutics, pharmaceutical chemistry, clinical pharmacy. yet you want to claim you have more knowledge about drugs when you only do 1/5 of the department under drug/medicament study (Pharmacy).

summary of my argument

in Nigeria

1.) Doctors open clinics without employing qualified pharmacist to perform their essential duty as stated at the beginning of this post.

2.) pharmacists open their stores and sell prescription only medicines without waiting for a doctor to write.

3.) NPF, NDLEA, etc don't arrest people for 1&2 above

4.) the pharmacist by training knows MORE about drugs than the medical doctor in NIGERIA

Jaideyone:
in the normal hospital setting (in developed countries) the doctor prescribes and the pharmacist will advice further on whether the prescription can fly or not. the pharmacist holds the power to change the prescription based on availability of the medication, condition of the patient (in which case the pharmacist will have to talk to the doctor to remind him of oversights) and dosage mistakes.

the question is how many hospitals/clinics in Nigeria employ qualified pharmacists that can do what I wrote up there?

the truth remains that the pharmacist knows more about drugs/medicaments than the doctor!!! while you spend 5 out of 6yrs doing anatomy, histology, parasitology, biochemistry, physiology and other non drug components of your program the pharmacist spends 4 out of 5yrs concentrating on everything drugs alone!!!

you as a doctor will not do pharmacognosy, pharmaceutics, pharmaceutical chemistry, clinical pharmacy. yet you want to claim you have more knowledge about drugs when you only do 1/5 of the department under drug/medicament study (Pharmacy).

summary of my argument

in Nigeria

1.) Doctors open clinics without employing qualified pharmacist to perform their essential duty as stated at the beginning of this post.

2.) pharmacists open their stores and sell prescription only medicines without waiting for a doctor to write.

3.) NPF, NDLEA, etc don't arrest people for 1&2 above

4.) the pharmacist by training knows MORE about drugs than the medical doctor in NIGERIA

guy like I said earlier, u have problem

simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...

go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,

mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,

u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...


Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.

mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..

biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say..

goodluck

Jaideyone:
in the normal hospital setting (in developed countries) the doctor prescribes and the pharmacist will advice further on whether the prescription can fly or not. the pharmacist holds the power to change the prescription based on availability of the medication, condition of the patient (in which case the pharmacist will have to talk to the doctor to remind him of oversights) and dosage mistakes.

the question is how many hospitals/clinics in Nigeria employ qualified pharmacists that can do what I wrote up there?

the truth remains that the pharmacist knows more about drugs/medicaments than the doctor!!! while you spend 5 out of 6yrs doing anatomy, histology, parasitology, biochemistry, physiology and other non drug components of your program the pharmacist spends 4 out of 5yrs concentrating on everything drugs alone!!!

you as a doctor will not do pharmacognosy, pharmaceutics, pharmaceutical chemistry, clinical pharmacy. yet you want to claim you have more knowledge about drugs when you only do 1/5 of the department under drug/medicament study (Pharmacy).

summary of my argument

in Nigeria

1.) Doctors open clinics without employing qualified pharmacist to perform their essential duty as stated at the beginning of this post.

2.) pharmacists open their stores and sell prescription only medicines without waiting for a doctor to write.

3.) NPF, NDLEA, etc don't arrest people for 1&2 above

4.) the pharmacist by training knows MORE about drugs than the medical doctor in NIGERIA

guy like I said earlier, u have problem

simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...

go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,

mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,

u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...


Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.

mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..

biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say.. or rather, google is ur friend, dont worry I won't ask u the source of ur initial claim cox am sure u got them from a local village where chemist looks like hospital: D


as per we doing 1/5 of pharmacy courses, whatever, we studied the one needed by our patient, producing it is pharmacy headache but using it is the doctors niche, no pharmaciat will tell u they know pharmacology workfunctions than a doctor as far as human ia concern..


or rather call up ur Doctor of pharmacy, to come up with the claim here and i ll call up my senior which am sure they ll gladly respond.. for ur info, weve done it here before which they bleeped up, am now wondering where u are coming from..

we talked about diagnosis, nobody on health knows it like the doctor, abi na pharm wey no sabi diagnos go preacribe for u.. nawa for ur ignorance o..

do u think we are talking of malaria here ni..



still warming up to start my path and pharm class like seriously warming up to challenge ur pharm and johesu likes..then wont need to call seniors again coz then i ll on point.

oya take this home ..


A patient came to ur consulting room with a swollen redish eye , serious headche , general weakness complaint of paralysis of some body part..


as a pharmaciat warrior, whats ur diagnos and drug to give him...



goodluck

danilmo:


guy like I said earlier, u have problem

simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...

go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,

mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,

u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...


Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.

mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..

biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say.. or rather, google is ur friend, dont worry I won't ask u the source of ur initial claim cox am sure u got them from a local village where chemist looks like hospital: D

goodluck

you are a clown. you just don't want to admit the pharmacist by training knows more about drugs than the medical doctor.

enjoy your ignorance

danilmo:


guy like I said earlier, u have problem

simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...

go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,

mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,

u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...


Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.

mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..

biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say..

goodluck

did I use the panadol and paracetamol example? so why are you crediting it to me? you are just plain dumb for crediting a comparison I didn't make to me.

Jaideyone:
you are a clown. you just don't want to admit the pharmacist by training knows more about drugs than the medical doctor.

enjoy your ignorance

I mpdified the post, recheck again, still u keep displaying ignorance publicly, u talking to a Medic guy, keep on ridiculing urself

Does producing car make u a good driver who will take u on a long journey, ?? no , it takes someone who has gone to driving school, licensed to do so.. u dey craze ni,

Jaideyone:
in the normal hospital setting (in developed countries) the doctor prescribes and the pharmacist will advice further on whether the prescription can fly or not. the pharmacist holds the power to change the prescription based on availability of the medication, condition of the patient (in which case the pharmacist will have to talk to the doctor to remind him of oversights) and dosage mistakes.

the question is how many hospitals/clinics in Nigeria employ qualified pharmacists that can do what I wrote up there?

the truth remains that the pharmacist knows more about drugs/medicaments than the doctor!!! while you spend 5 out of 6yrs doing anatomy, histology, parasitology, biochemistry, physiology and other non drug components of your program the pharmacist spends 4 out of 5yrs concentrating on everything drugs alone!!!

you as a doctor will not do pharmacognosy, pharmaceutics, pharmaceutical chemistry, clinical pharmacy. yet you want to claim you have more knowledge about drugs when you only do 1/5 of the department under drug/medicament study (Pharmacy).

summary of my argument

in Nigeria

1.) Doctors open clinics without employing qualified pharmacist to perform their essential duty as stated at the beginning of this post.

2.) pharmacists open their stores and sell prescription only medicines without waiting for a doctor to write.

3.) NPF, NDLEA, etc don't arrest people for 1&2 above

4.) the pharmacist by training knows MORE about drugs than the medical doctor in NIGERIA

guy like I said earlier, u have problem
simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...
go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,
mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,
u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...
Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.
mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..
biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say.. or rather, google is ur friend, dont worry I won't ask u the source of ur initial claim cox am sure u got them from a local village where chemist looks like hospital: D
as per we doing 1/5 of pharmacy courses, whatever, we studied the one needed by our patient, producing it is pharmacy headache but using it is the doctors niche, no pharmaciat will tell u they know pharmacology workfunctions than a doctor as far as human ia concern..
or rather call up ur Doctor of pharmacy, to come up with the claim here and i ll call up my senior which am sure they ll gladly respond.. for ur info, weve done it here before which they bleeped up, am now wondering where u are coming from..
we talked about diagnosis, nobody on health knows it like the doctor, abi na pharm wey no sabi diagnos go preacribe for u.. nawa for ur ignorance o..
do u think we are talking of malaria here ni..
still warming up to start my path and pharm class like seriously warming up to challenge ur pharm and johesu likes..then wont need to call seniors again coz then i ll on point.
oya take this home ..
A patient came to ur consulting room with a swollen redish eye , serious headche , general weakness complaint of paralysis of some body part..
as a pharmaciat warrior, whats ur diagnos and drug to give him...


goodluck

danilmo:




guy like I said earlier, u have problem
simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...
go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,
mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,
u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...
Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.
mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..
biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say.. or rather, google is ur friend, dont worry I won't ask u the source of ur initial claim cox am sure u got them from a local village where chemist looks like hospital: D
as per we doing 1/5 of pharmacy courses, whatever, we studied the one needed by our patient, producing it is pharmacy headache but using it is the doctors niche, no pharmaciat will tell u they know pharmacology workfunctions than a doctor as far as human ia concern..
or rather call up ur Doctor of pharmacy, to come up with the claim here and i ll call up my senior which am sure they ll gladly respond.. for ur info, weve done it here before which they bleeped up, am now wondering where u are coming from..
we talked about diagnosis, nobody on health knows it like the doctor, abi na pharm wey no sabi diagnos go preacribe for u.. nawa for ur ignorance o..
do u think we are talking of malaria here ni..
still warming up to start my path and pharm class like seriously warming up to challenge ur pharm and johesu likes..then wont need to call seniors again coz then i ll on point.
oya take this home ..
A patient came to ur consulting room with a swollen redish eye , serious headche , general weakness complaint of paralysis of some body part..
as a pharmaciat warrior, whats ur diagnos and drug to give him...


goodluck

lol Mr medic guy enjoy your ignorance.

I'm done with you

danilmo:


I mpdified the post, recheck again, still u keep displaying ignorance publicly, u talking to a Medic guy, keep on ridiculing urself

Does producing car make u a good driver who will take u on a long journey, ?? no , it takes someone who has gone to driving school, licensed to do so.. u dey craze ni,

refer to the post above this Mr medic guy

Jaideyone:
lol Mr medic guy enjoy your ignorance.
I'm done with you

ah, so am now the ignorant one ..
, fool will always think the wise ones are foolish

yea, am the medic guy..yes o, proud to b one jare U?
maybe am the fool here or u, either way, people are reading our comment and they know who is ignorant ..
next time before u start talk, make sure u hold ur fact well, u ll b fine
shallom

Jman06:
Are you aware that pharmacists also specialize in areas such as O$G, Psychiatry, cardiology,nephrology etc

Ever heard about prescribing pharmacists

provide your links. we are not interested in half truth.

capitalzero:


provide your links. we are not interested in half truth.

brother leave that nonentity alone before he ll tell u their are pharmacist who specialize in surgery .

arrestdarrester:


Now you turned abusive. Thank you for proving me right. Familiar poem, but please try to be original and make a poem that may be published. Just in case you forgot: plagiarism is theft of intellectual property. This is plagiarized.

"But"?
wrong usage of "but" here,sir.
"But" is used to negate two clauses.
One out of its numerous functions.
You don't need to include it here,sir.

When I checked last, you were the one that insulted me first.
Nobody is an authority in any language.
Even one's native language, one cannot boast of being an authority in it.
You insulted someone first just because of a perceived error in his comment instead of pointing out the person's mistake politely whereas, your comments are replete with cheap bloopers that even a toddler no go fee make.

Define plagiarism, sir.
What makes one guilty of it?
kukuma answer me and I will use your comment to 'nail you down'
John%Ifeoluwakriz.


Be nice next time, sir.

danilmo:


ah, so am now the ignorant one ..

, fool will always think the wise ones are foolish


yea, am the medic guy..yes o, proud to b one jare
U?

maybe am the fool here or u, either way,
people are reading our comment and they know who is ignorant ..

next time before u start talk, make sure u hold ur fact well, u ll b fine

shallom

I don't need to play your dumb games. I could as well give you a list of symptoms and tell you to do a diagnosis.

the issue is how does someone that spent 5yrs studying drugs alone still not know much about it like the guy the guy who spent six years concentrating on other areas.


your argument defies logic and has betrayed your IQ.

there's no point talking again if you won't explain why you feel the doctor knows more about drugs.

after this no more response!!!

capitalzero:


provide your links. we are not interested in half truth.

I'll only advise you to visit www.accp.com/career and get yourself informed.

Anybody with a smart phone can easily do a google search and get information on specialist clinical pharmacists and prescribing pharmacists.

Jaideyone:
I don't need to play your dumb games. I could as well give you a list of symptoms and tell you to do a diagnosis.

the issue is how does someone that spent 5yrs studying drugs alone still not know much about it like the guy the guy who spent six years concentrating on other areas.


your argument defies logic and has betrayed your IQ.

there's no point talking again if you won't explain why you feel the doctor knows more about drugs.

after this no more response!!!

daft abi na ignorant, the 5 years of study na to produce drug, added pharmacology..

medic studied medicine and surgery..

drug na just part of medicine, nothing concern us with the production as far as patient is concern, abi u don see where doctor refer patient to pharmacist before ni,
but they do wella,

does car manufacturer makes them the best driver
am getting pissed with ur illiteracy..

u shouldnt question me whether because they produce drug makes them knows drug more than doctor , querry international/ WHO that restrict there prescription...

IFEOLUWAKRIZ:


"But"?
wrong usage of "but" here,sir.
"But" is used to negate two clauses.
One out of its numerous functions.
You don't need to include it here,sir.

When I checked last, you were the one that insulted me first.
Nobody is an authority in any language.
Even one's native language, one cannot boast of being an authority in it.
You insulted someone first just because of a perceived error in his comment instead of pointing out the person's mistake politely whereas, your comments are replete with cheap bloopers that even a toddler no go fee make.

Define plagiarism, sir.
What makes one guilty of it?
kukuma answer me and I will use your comment to 'nail you down'
John%Ifeoluwakriz.


Be nice next time, sir.

Sir? Did you just say sir? Oh! You discovered your stupidity after all. Sorry, we can't relate. You have that character flaw to take care of. I wish you the best while you work on it Chris.

Jman06:
I'll only advise you to visit www.accp.com/career and get yourself informed.

Anybody with a smart phone can easily do a google search and get information on specialist clinical pharmacists and prescribing pharmacists.

guy which kind of useless website is this , my friend give me valid web address and stop poking nose ..

all this doctor wanaB ..

get jamb form and enter, stop poking nose through backyard ..
mtchh...no wonder they always hook

danilmo:


brother leave that nonentity alone before he ll tell u their are pharmacist who specialize in surgery .

Fool! I'm just happy the way some of you are exposing your ignorance on this public forum for every informed person to see.

I'll not dignify you lots with further response. We are in the era where anybody can easily get any information by simply doing a google search. Anybody with a smart phone can easily google the roles of specialist clinical pharmacists or pharmacist prescribers.

Simpletons like you will continue to argue blindly while smart ones would search for facts and learn.

danilmo:


guy which kind of useless website is this , my friend give me valid web address and stop poking nose ..

all this doctor wanaB ..

get jamb form and enter, stop poking nose through backyard ..
mtchh...no wonder they always hook

If you call the official website of the American college of clinical pharmacists useless then I'll not argue further with you because you obviously don't just want to be informed.

For your information, I chose pharmacy in my direct entry not because I couldn't gain admission to medicine but because I prefer pharmacy. In my post UDE exam, I scored higher than the cut off point for medicine. Need i inform you that I also enrolled with a 2-1 in biochemistry.

I'll choose pharmacy over medicine anytime I'm asked to choose. Thank you!

Jman06:
I'll only advise you to visit www.accp.com/career and get yourself informed.

Anybody with a smart phone can easily do a google search and get information on specialist clinical pharmacists and prescribing pharmacists.

where did you see o and g, nephrology , cardiology. Most of your info are half truths. clinical pharmacy is a branch of pharmacy. from your link,Board of Pharmacy Specialties (BPS) currently recognizes the following eight specialty practice areas:
Ambulatory Care Pharmacy
Critical Care Pharmacy
Nuclear Pharmacy
Nutrition Support Pharmacy
Oncology Pharmacy
Pediatric Pharmacy
Pharmacotherapy
Psychiatric Pharmacy of pharmacy.
what are duties of clinical pharmacists? to prescribe? no.
What is a clinical pharmacist?
Clinical pharmacists work directly with physicians, other health professionals, and patients to ensure that the medications prescribed for patients contribute to the best possible health outcomes. Clinical pharmacists practice in health care settings where they have frequent and regular interactions with physicians and other health professionals, contributing to better coordination of care.
Clinical pharmacists are educated and trained in many direct patient care environments, including medical centers, clinics, and a variety of other health care settings. Clinical pharmacists are frequently granted patient care privileges by collaborating physicians and/or health systems that allow them to perform a full range of medication decision-making functions as part of the patient’s health care team. These privileges are granted on the basis of the clinical pharmacist’s demonstrated knowledge of medication therapy and record of clinical experience. This specialized knowledge and clinical experience is usually gained through residency training and specialist board certification.
What do clinical pharmacists do?
Clinical pharmacists:
Assess the status of the patient’s health problems and determine whether the prescribed medications are optimally meeting the patient’s needs and goals of care.
Evaluate the appropriateness and effectiveness of the patient’s medications.
Recognize untreated health problems that could be improved or resolved with appropriate medication therapy.
Follow the patient’s progress to determine the effects of the patient’s medications on his or her health.
Consult with the patient’s physicians and other health care providers in selecting the medication therapy that best meets the patient’s needs and contributes effectively to the overall therapy goals.
Advise the patient on how to best take his or her medications.
Support the health care team’s efforts to educate the patient on other important steps to improve or maintain health, such as exercise, diet, and preventive steps like immunization.
Refer the patient to his or her physician or other health professionals to address specific health, wellness, or social services concerns as they arise.
How do clinical pharmacists care for patients?
Clinical pharmacists:
Provide a consistent process of patient care that ensures the appropriateness, effectiveness, and safety of the patient’s medication use.
Consult with the patient’s physicians and other health care providers to develop and implement a medication plan that can meet the overall goals of patient care established by the health care team.
Apply specialized knowledge of the scientific and clinical use of medications, including medication action, dosing, adverse effects, and drug interactions, in performing their patient care activities in collaboration with other members of the health care team.
Call on their clinical experience to solve health problems through the rational use of medications.
Rely on their professional relationships with patients to tailor their advice to best meet individual patient needs and desires.
source:accp

arrestdarrester:


Sir? Did you just say sir? Oh! You discovered your stupidity after all. Sorry, we can't relate. You have that character flaw to take care of. I wish you the best while you work on it Chris.

Errors still dey this your comment o!
Is it that you cannot construct at least a sentence devoid of errors?
Sir,please challenge me to point them out!
Migraine-inducing errors!

Haha.
Why are you entertaining surprise that I addressed you as 'sir'?
No wonder! It's an established fact that your level of asininity is second to none!
The fact that people around you have never addressed you as 'sir' speaks volume of your humongous and elephantine fatuousness and tomfoolery.I'm sorry to announce,there is no panacea for your top-notch asininity.
Low life idiot,oya channel your frustrated life on a more yielding project.
Common sense is not common again.


I wish you the best while you work on your comments that are replete with bloopers and errors and more important, your dysfunctional and dead sense too.

IFEOLUWAKRIZ:

Errors still dey this your comment o!
Is it that you cannot construct at least a sentence devoid of errors?
Sir,please challenge me to point them out!
Migraine-inducing errors!

Haha.
Why are you entertaining surprise that I addressed you as 'sir'?
No wonder! It's an established fact that your level of asininity is second to none!
The fact that people around you have never addressed you as 'sir' speaks volume of your humongous and elephantine fatuousness and tomfoolery.I'm sorry to announce,there is no panacea for your top-notch asininity.
Low life idiot,oya channel your frustrated life on a more yielding project.
Common sense is not common again.


I wish you the best while you work on your comments that are replete with bloopers and errors and more important, your dysfunctional and dead sense too.

Bring some more. Spew out all you've got boy

capitalzero:


where did you see o and g, nephrology , cardiology. Most of your info are half truths. clinical pharmacy is a branch of pharmacy. from your link,Board of Pharmacy Specialties (BPS) currently recognizes the following eight specialty practice areas:
Ambulatory Care Pharmacy
Critical Care Pharmacy
Nuclear Pharmacy
Nutrition Support Pharmacy
Oncology Pharmacy
Pediatric Pharmacy
Pharmacotherapy
Psychiatric Pharmacy of pharmacy.
what are duties of clinical pharmacists? to prescribe? no.
What is a clinical pharmacist?
Clinical pharmacists work directly with physicians, other health professionals, and patients to ensure that the medications prescribed for patients contribute to the best possible health outcomes. Clinical pharmacists practice in health care settings where they have frequent and regular interactions with physicians and other health professionals, contributing to better coordination of care.
Clinical pharmacists are educated and trained in many direct patient care environments, including medical centers, clinics, and a variety of other health care settings. Clinical pharmacists are frequently granted patient care privileges by collaborating physicians and/or health systems that allow them to perform a full range of medication decision-making functions as part of the patient’s health care team. These privileges are granted on the basis of the clinical pharmacist’s demonstrated knowledge of medication therapy and record of clinical experience. This specialized knowledge and clinical experience is usually gained through residency training and specialist board certification.
What do clinical pharmacists do?
Clinical pharmacists:
Assess the status of the patient’s health problems and determine whether the prescribed medications are optimally meeting the patient’s needs and goals of care.
Evaluate the appropriateness and effectiveness of the patient’s medications.
Recognize untreated health problems that could be improved or resolved with appropriate medication therapy.
Follow the patient’s progress to determine the effects of the patient’s medications on his or her health.
Consult with the patient’s physicians and other health care providers in selecting the medication therapy that best meets the patient’s needs and contributes effectively to the overall therapy goals.
Advise the patient on how to best take his or her medications.
Support the health care team’s efforts to educate the patient on other important steps to improve or maintain health, such as exercise, diet, and preventive steps like immunization.
Refer the patient to his or her physician or other health professionals to address specific health, wellness, or social services concerns as they arise.
How do clinical pharmacists care for patients?
Clinical pharmacists:
Provide a consistent process of patient care that ensures the appropriateness, effectiveness, and safety of the patient’s medication use.
Consult with the patient’s physicians and other health care providers to develop and implement a medication plan that can meet the overall goals of patient care established by the health care team.
Apply specialized knowledge of the scientific and clinical use of medications, including medication action, dosing, adverse effects, and drug interactions, in performing their patient care activities in collaboration with other members of the health care team.
Call on their clinical experience to solve health problems through the rational use of medications.
Rely on their professional relationships with patients to tailor their advice to best meet individual patient needs and desires.
source:accp

I believe the specialties above where the ones available at the time the publication was made. More specialties have been added to the list.

visit the site below for more info.

www.bpsweb.org and click on BPS specialties to learn more.

on prescribing pharmacists, check out this:

https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/education/pharmacist-independent-prescriber



NB: The goal is not to take the jobs of the physician but to assist in optimizing patient care . The physician makes the diagnosis and consults the pharmacists on matters related to drugs. At the end the patient gets the best care at good cost.

Jman06:
I believe the specialties above where the ones available at the time the publication was made. More specialties have been added to the list.

visit the site below for more info.

www.bpsweb.org and click on BPS specialties to learn more.

on prescribing pharmacists, check out this:

https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/education/pharmacist-independent-prescriber



NB: The goal is not to take the jobs of the physician but to assist in optimizing patient care . The physician makes the diagnosis and consults the pharmacists on matters related to drugs. At the end the patient gets the best care at good cost.

duty of clinical pharmacists is not to prescribe drugs just as we outlined previously. there are clinical programme designed for pharmacists who want to prescribe.
primary duty of pharmacists is not prescription of drugs and clinical care just as primary role of physicians is not dispensing of medications. of courses physicians do dispense drugs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician_dispensing.

capitalzero:

duty of clinical pharmacists is not to prescribe drugs just as we outlined previously. there are clinical programme designed for pharmacists who want to prescribe.
primary duty of pharmacists is not prescription of drugs and clinical care just as primary role of physicians is not dispensing of medications. of courses physicians do dispense drugs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician_dispensing.

At least you now agree that a pharmacist prescribes!

Going through your link - though not clear, what i can deduce is that "physician dispensing" is just the right of the physician to administer dispensed drugs to the patient at the bedside by means of injections. It is different from ethical dispensing!

Jman06:
At least you now agree that a pharmacist prescribes!

Going through your link - though not clear, what i can deduce is that "physician dispensing" is just the right of the physician to administer dispensed drugs to the patient at the bedside by means of injections. It is different from ethical dispensing!

I never say pharmacists cannot prescribe. But which drugs?
even chew,nurse, physiotherapist, optometrists, etc may prescribe. But which drugs and but whom authority? I repeat, prescription rights for other health workers are not their traditional roles but expanded roles and it is only medical council and moh that can allow them to do so legally. to learn more about prescription drugs check http://apps.who.int/medicinedocs/en/d/Jwhozip23e/5.4.html
for decades,physicians have been dispensing drugs in their clinics and hospitals legally but they cannot open pharmacy shops.

Last year we invited Prof. A.B.O of Babcock university to be our guest speaker for our Anatomy week. It was wonderful. When this same issue was raised, I can still recall some of his answer, not verbatim though. He said there is no point dissolving non-medically qualified anatomists from teaching medical students, reason being that they had had years of experience in anatomy and had researched and written many papers in the field... He even went on to say that 'non-medically qualified anatomist know the anatomy more than the medically qualified ones'. He said "Mediically qualified anatomist" refer to people who had M.B.B.S before continuing in the field of anatomy. I don't quite agree with him, he overgeneralized.
He studied medicine before turning into a full anatomist. He said the man that took him anatomy during his preclinical years at Yale was one of the best he had ever seen. He is one of the first three anatomists in the country.. My question is, if he, who had M.B.B.S could say this, and the Yale university that allowed a non-medically qualified anatomist to teach medics could allow it, why not us?

Though, personally, I loved my lecturers especially those who have MBBS degrees. The way they teach with clinical correlation makes you feel like a doctor and makes you remember stuff! But again there are others who had BSc's and PhD's in the basic sciences who were just about as good! (The likes of Prof. Abdulsallam Magaji).I personally don't care who teaches as long as you are qualified.
SHALOM.

Jaideyone:
Google medical sale representative openings abroad and you'll see that drug knowledge is the key requirement.

medical sales is more than just walking into a shop and exchanging the product for cash!!!

there is detailing where you explain the biochemistry and pharmacology of the drug to the doctors before they write prescriptions of the drugs for their patients. there are also clinical meetings and presentations too. I still see doctors that don't know secnidazole and metronidazole are in the same nitro-imidazole group!!! the only difference is their half life and that is why metronidazole is taken 3 times daily and secnidazole is 2g stat.
I still detailed to a dentist about secnidazole three days ago and he didn't even know it!!! some of the doctors don't even know the application of mefenamic acid. drug science (Pharmacy/pharmacology) is so broad that professionals are needed to work as medical representatives cos there is a serious need to pass the knowledge of the biochemistry and pharmacology of the drug to doctors who are more focused on the clinical applications!!! the job of the pharmacist is not just to dispense drugs alone.

no other professional knows more about the drug than the pharmacist and pharmacologist that spent years studying drug chemistry alone!!!

so pharmacists and pharmacologist working as medical representatives are in the right field!!!

Actually am an undergraduate in pharmacology department and doesn't seem to understand when people keep saying pharmacology work as medical sales rep.Pls what do medical sales rep do precisely because as it sounds it involves maths.And I don't think we ever take a time to study further maths and then secondly what do they sell??if I guess right you people are talking about selling medical devices like incubator,sterilizers,medical gloves etc except drugs since pharmacologist are not allowed to sell drugs in Nigeria.