ola12:

I dont knw if u understand me or not. A doctor specialist is different from an actual pharmacist is all I'm saying. No matter how specialized he is in "pharmacology", dats still a pharmacist's domain.

About the bolded, Pharmacists still scratch their heads daily wondering why, it isn't supposed to be so but it ended up dat way. Oh well

MartinCorridon:


Yeah they just jump into decisions without thinking it through.

Then Mr Enaibe (Anatomy ) and Mr. Adebayo (Biochemistry) taught us well in 2000-01. I learnt they are PhDs now...

Time flies

Jaideyone:
so if I do anatomy, biochemistry, physiology up to PhD level or I even become a professor I still won't know enough in my field to teach "medical students"

clowns

maduxs:
I know that clinical makes a good impression but what I’m saying is doctors should be allowed to teach clinical anatomy while anatomist should teach the rest because believe me they have depth knowledge of anatomy more than there medical counterparts. It’s like bringing war between families

arrestdarrester:


That school is not qualified to have a medical college I can assure you. See your use of "more better " sef don confirm say the school no get levels

Jman06:
You see what i have been saying Nigerian medical doctors have totally lost it! So, by this, a great majority of them will now proceed to get an MSc and PhD in the basic medical sciences so they could start teaching anatomy, physiology and biochemistry to medical students while leaving behind other lofty medical specialties. For your information, minimum requirement for lecturing is a PhD so don't even think that NUC will allow you replace PhD with MBBS because no where in the world is an MBBS equal to a PhD. So, you guys should get ready to spend years of academic research to earn a PhD.

And for the guy alluding that medical doctors know pharmacology more than pharmacists, let me inform you that every action of a drug resides in its chemical structure and studying the chemical structures of drugs is within the domains of pharmaceutical chemistry which pharmacists study for 4-5 years. Modifying the structures of these drugs through various means ( including factors within and outside the human system) changes the actions of the drugs. So, tell me how a med doctor who has no knowledge of drug chemistry would know the effects of the drug better than a pharmacist.
That you are allowed to prescribe drugs is an anomaly which has resulted to so many deaths. That is why the pharmacist must be there in the hospitals not only to ethically dispense the drugs but to also screen your prescriptions to pinpoint prescription errors.

My friends, you can never know it all! Do your parts and let others do theirs.

Jaideyone:
they are greedy!!! that's it!!! in developed countries people who are not MBBS graduates teach medical students and no one is complaining.

we want to copy their system of education but our doctors want to put their own greed

Tflex01:


That is to tell you how ignorant they are in drug knowledge.

Can a Pharmacist be oblivious of pharmacognosy? A whole department in pharmacy training?

You are lucky because some persons spend way more for project of that magnitude.

Nothing is more funny to me than when a doctor claims to have knowledge of drugs than a pharmacist that spent years studing pharmaceutics, pharmacology, pharmacognosy, pharmaceutical chemistry, Pharmaceutical microbiology and others.

Rubyventures:

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Gr8amechi:

Some of you talk like dumb ass Tell me one none doctors that lecture in the USA medical school or do you think medical schools are run like they are in Nigeria.
Don't confuse college/premed with medical school they are not the same.

Jaideyone:
so the pharmacist that spent years studying the chemical composition, lethal dose, effective dose, pharmacology and biochemistry of drugs is not in the position to tell the patient what to take?

is that not prescription? hehehehe

prescription is not the writing on paper but the act of authorising the use of a drug. if as a pharmacist I give someone a pack of antibiotics I just prescribed!!!

ignoramus!!!

Gr8amechi:

You didn't get it.
Now in biochemistry it has very diverse parts and let's say you do clinical or medical biochemistry, and a medical doctor does same to PhD which do you think would teach it better??
Now apart from that if you have gone through medical school you would understand, some of the none doctors victimize their students because of "beef"for medical school.
It's simply enough, Let someone with mbbs and a PhD handle the field, those none doctors can't teach other students within the college of medicine

tete7000:


You guys can delude yourselves. So engineering is easy abi? When many of you run to medicine out of fear of mathematics and technical drawing. Nigerian doctors are bunch of egocentric clowns. They always think the world start and end with been doctors. I read engineering out of choice, I have a very good qualification to be a doctor and I would have successfully been one had I wanted. Nothing makes medicine and surgery more special than any course, not even Yoruba language. The earlier you get that into your skull, the better for you.

Gr8amechi:

Do you know why doctors prescribe drugs worldwide??
Do you think prescription is about knowing the chemical structure of the drugs??
And more so do you think doctors don't know pharmacology, that's very funny, my dear try and get a medicine curriculum and see, like I would always say if you haven't been through medical school don't open your mouth to talk trash.
Your duty is to produce drugs and dispense, standardly a doctor prescription should be on generic name while your duty is to choose which among the available formations is best for the patient.
You can't prescribe drugs without understanding of medicine, someone come with a rash on his skin, what do you want to do with your knowledge of chemistry??
Even a surgeon would refer such persons to a dermatologist not that he is ignorant but there are over a 100 things that can cause rash. How about common headache, pharmacist should learn to be professionals and limit themselves to their job description.
Only in Nigeria will someone sign up for a job he isn't proud of doing, if you want to treat patients go get an MBBS licence

Jaideyone:
lol is there a school like USA medical school?

if it's the question I think you are trying to ask there are non-refundable doctors that are pharmacists, microbiologists, pharmacologists, biochemists, etc that teach in medical schools.

medicine is so broad that doctors can never take all their own courses!!! my dad is an engineer and his engineer friend was HOD of biomedical engineering in CMUL for several years. there is medical microbiology which non-doctors who have post graduate certificates take abroad too!!!

ignorant fellow

you are the ignorant one

Jaideyone:
lol see this one concluding foolishly that non-doctors who are lecturers beef their students what a foolish way to generalise

these are the kind of people with low IQ studying medicine now

babajeje123:

My brother, I taya for Nigerian doctors o. One of them even said their so called mbbs is superior to phD. Can you imagine that nonsense? So many people chose to be in paramedics and other professions and these bunch of fools are making them to regret their choice. These guys are really crazy

redsun:
I just lost a dear cousin in one of those useless hospitals. Killed by medical personnel that were more interested in money than saving lives.They killed her and held her corpse for ransom until we had to give them the balance of their money for a botched operation that shouldn't have been carried in the first place. The country is a muderfucking zoo where even medical doctors acts like savages.

quatrevingtdix:

If you ever had dr. Adesokan teach you, youl know the difference, but drs. Enaibe and Adebayo tried alot too..we are where we are thanks to all of them, but the need for clinical correlates in basic medical sciences can't be overemphasized.

Gr8amechi:

Lol why run from the point, I said list lecturers in any medical school in the USA that is not a medical doctor,
You can do medical microbiology in PhD but can't practice as an attending, learn the difference.
For your dad's friend did he study anatomy??

Gr8amechi:

What you don't know is fare bigger than you. It's not once it's not twice, you hear them say it, not just to medical students but even some pharmacy students who borrow some of their physiology and histology courses.
Seems you have a poor sense of judgement after all

Gr8amechi:

Let me correct your ignorance, first no one is saying MBBS is equivalent to PhD and second no one said doctors would be given MBBS and automatically start to lecture basic medical courses.
Now let me clear you, the point is there has always been three routes for an MBBS doctor, one is residency, one is private practice and the next is academic, which is masters and PhD.
Now what they are implying is what 90% of those who went through medical school has one time agitated for, what we want is let MBBS doctors who have PhD in anatomy, physiology or medical biochemistry be the people who would take medical students only.
Let me give you an example in my school back then, we had an MBBS doctor who has a PhD in anatomy and majored in histology and he is also a fellow, meaning he is also a consultant histopathologist. Now my question is do you think someone who has just PhD in anatomy would teach histology better than him?? Back then in Preclinical histology was like the easiest course because you would understand what you are seeing on the microscope.
Now let me correct what you don't know there is something called clinical pharmacology and for your information you can't understand clinical pharmacology without clinical skills and knowledge of other aspects of medicine.
Medical doctors are not God and they don't claim to know it all, but until you attend a medical school please keep shut. Try and go online and understand the curriculum of medicine and surgery then you would understand.
Becoming a clinical pharmacology means you would study a further 5 to 6 years after gaining your MBBS, so stop parading your ignorance.
Check Usmle review videos how many pharmacology did you see a pharmacist teaching?? How many microbiology did you see someone not a medical doctor teach??
It's stupid when some of you generalize about doctors. Just Google the first 5 neuroanatomist in Nigeria and know how many have MBBS Google the first professor of
Dematoglyfics in the sub-Saharan African, Every field is important and unique but no field is equal

IFEOLUWAKRIZ:


That school is not qualified to have a medical college, I can assure you of that.


Work on your punctuation.
See,your use of......

I can assure you?
Wrong!

I can assure you of that.

capitalzero:

which is school is that? most non-medics are
teaching them things them that are not relevant to clinical practice. we are talking about contents not teaching methods.

tete7000:


The way you talk exposes your ignorance. I have beef for medicine, couldn't get admitted then got transferred to study mechanical engineering in university of Ibadan? Yours is an hopeless case. You are definitely not one of those who study medicine out of passion but out of "prestige" you think society attach to the course.
My dear, I insist and keep telling you nothing is special about medicine. It is just another course, those who worth their onions don't make as much noise as you make because they studied medicine, because they know they could have been anything they wish. If I wanted to be a doctor, nothing would have stopped me, but my calling, my vocation is where I am. Anyone who understands the words "calling" and "vocation" won't deride any other profession feeling his is on top of the lot. Those who shows your kind of emptiness typically portray the poor quality of our education system. You need to be schooled thoroughly again. Good education goes beyond been a mere medical doctor.

BaronBright:
And how many of those can u find in this country?

maduxs:
there is clinical even in ketmoor you can read up clinical if your wish to. When they thought you that injury to radia nerve give rise to wrist drop, it’s it a dead man anatomy? You are being economical with the truth. I am anatomist I have thought lots of young pathologist eviceration practically.we all need each other.

flamingREED:
Who will then be in the hospitals?

Do they now want to teach or treat?

Dumb, very.

My last visit to BMH in PH made me realise we're badly short of handy doctors.

To hear people died one after the other made me desire to turn out all my science students as medical students.

VeeVeeMyLuv:

U my friend are ignorant,

Are you now saying a specialist biochemist is not qualified to teach young medical students in 100 -500 level biochemistry?

DonMekino:
Not sounding hateful, but these medical associations in Nigeria tend to place their values on higher pedestals when they have not done anything extraordinary. Teaching should be by someone who can impact the knowledge, doctor or not

arrestdarrester:


"...I can assure you" isn't a beginning phrase, it did end my sentence. On the other hand, "I can assure you that..." Is a phrase that could have begun my sentence if I wanted what you opined.

Your English stinks to high heavens.