yemmit90:
Being awhile i took part in this type of discussion. If you are here argueing with Atheists or Deists, you are simply wasting your time because you can never have require facts to backup your claims.

We are simply what we believed. Serving God or not have nothing to do with your existence. Although, religions give hope upon hope with no hope of when and how to fulfil them. Human need more wisdoms and ability to exploit nature than they needs prayers or worshiping a particular god. The fact is that, if you dont act, no amount of paryers can solve your problems.

Every problem ever knows to humanity have a solution,it is only left for us to use our natural talents and wisdoms to discover these solutions.

johnydon22:


Current girl friend is an atheist, A popular one here on Nairaland at that... I'm a lucky bastard

For my kids i intend to raise them free, they won't be atheists or theists, rather maintain that default stance we all have from birth which is Pure agnosticism.

When they grow to the age of reason they can develop their own ideas not feed them my own ideas

johnydon22:


Frosbel's case is really a very good case study here how dangerous it is for any religious person to encounter atheists no matter how strong they think their belief is..

frosbel is a good example

We all at one point were top notch core religionists and theists but along the line the thunder struck..

Frosbel was one top debater against atheists here on NL, we don't have anybody here now that can match that, his aggressiveness during his days.. He was a pain then, i only watched as a guest then though.

then slowly the emergence of reason started, the little seeds of doubt and question his endless encounters with atheists culminated and germinated into a tree..

even though they might sound aggressive and all that, it is expected for a dearly held idea to be aggressive towards a new contradicting one but some things never remain same.

some way along the line, it may take years but they will one day ask one question as an effect from the debates with atheists.

and from there the slow painful and lonely hard journey begins ...

thats why i always maintain: it's dangerous for anyone with a belief in deities to debate an atheist, it might take a very long time but that tiny mustered seed of doubt must be planted.

so when debating, do not argue to win an argument or argue endlessly, it is needless and infantile..

Simple make your points and be done with it, all needed is just 1 tiny seed of doubt, natural curiosity takes over..

the result is always ......... You know it

frankfrancis871:
well humans do not understand what they believe or doubt in, for me life itself is a religion. Whatever you hold on to or believe in simply becomes your RELIGION! Those self-acclaimed atheist do not know that atheism is fast becoming a religion because many people are believing in it. Therefore any theory that has to do with belief is RELIGION, so for me atheists are really confusing and contradicting themselves.
Conclusively "I rather be a godly man than a religious man," thanks..

gentlezypher:
until it is proven beyond all doubt that there is no God, A GOD exists!!

frankfrancis871:
well humans do not understand what they believe or doubt in, for me life itself is a religion. Whatever you hold on to or believe in simply becomes your RELIGION! Those self-acclaimed atheist do not know that atheism is fast becoming a religion because many people are believing in it. Therefore any theory that has to do with belief is RELIGION, so for me atheists are really confusing and contradicting themselves.
Conclusively "I rather be a godly man than a religious man," thanks..

frank317:


I fail to get ur point... Atheism being a religion or not does not prove any God exists. Now that u have decided to be a godly man, kindly show us prove of ur God. Simple.

HardMirror:

I guess i can also say 'until it is proven beyond all doubt that there is no Zeus, no spiderman, no harrypotter, no gwagwa (by the way gwagwa created Yahweh ), then they all exist!!!!

Now you see how silly your assertion is? If you still dont see it then something is seriously wrong with you. Either you are very dumb or insincere

HardMirror:

This most be the most silly comment i have read in a long time. Why? The writer tries to sound intelligent but ends up making no sense.
The contention between atheists and theists has been the god at the center of all religions. You dont see atheist takling cults even though religion and cults have similar structures. You think you are excluded and special by claiming to be a godly man which puts you in a very precarious position.

Now lets talk.

What does it mean to be godly? What makes a godly man be a man on the right track?

gentlezypher:
lol i never insulted you on your belief,but you are insulting me,so whats difference between you and those you condemned on your thread earlier,Mr?

frankfrancis871:
There is a big different between a religious man and godly man, the religious man is very overzealous, selfish, claims to be perfect and twist things to his own way for a particular selfish reason while a godly man is the exact opposite of the above! He is a man of his words, selfless, a good man but not perfect, does not RELY on a pastor or imam's explaination unlike the religious man who will even be told that 'his parents are evil and against his success' and he will expect it wholeheartedly..

HardMirror:
oh! How did i insult you? Pardon me if you think i did, but this is just another indication of your poor comprehension.

... i said if you cant understand what i wrote then you are dumb or insincere. The question now is do you understand my counter-claim or not

HardMirror:
ok, accepted. You are a godly man, do you have a particular way of life and what determines this way of life?

gentlezypher:
dont you think you are confused? You said you do discuss with the holy spirit and you also affirmed that God himself spoke to you twice, how then do you come out to say those you do have discussions with and hear from never existed

frankfrancis871:
yes I believe in 'live and let live' and I have principles that makes me work towards becoming the REAL ME and I am not perfect

HardMirror:
do you believe in god?

johnydon22:
Current girl friend is an atheist, A popular one here on Nairaland at that... I'm a lucky bastard

frankfrancis871:
as far as I know atheism the religion of atheist have failed woefully to prove that spiritual powers and Beings do not exist if they have, I suggest they explain more on juju, 'odenshi' etc. Atheists contradict themselves as humans, they will alway hold on something to believe in hence atheisms. Like I said any term that deals with belief is religion..

frankfrancis871:
I believe in the existence of a super-natural being

frank317:


Spiritual powers do not exist... If u can show us one pls do sir.

Juju and adenshi are just a haux... Non have been proven to exist.

If you think Atheism is a religion good for you... Arguing on weather athesim is a religion or not is the most useless argument since Atheism being a religion does not prove God.

frankfrancis871:
as far as I know atheism the religion of atheist have failed woefully to prove that spiritual powers and Beings do not exist if they have, I suggest they explain more on juju, 'odenshi' etc. Atheists contradict themselves as humans, they will alway hold on something to believe in hence atheisms. Like I said any term that deals with belief is religion..

frank317:


Spiritual powers do not exist... If u can show us one pls do sir.

Juju and adenshi are just a haux... Non have been proven to exist.

If you think Atheism is a religion good for you... Arguing on weather athesim is a religion or not is the most useless argument since Atheism being a religion does not prove God.

gentlezypher:
until it is proven beyond all doubt that there is no God, A GOD exists!!

HardMirror:

This most be the most silly comment i have read in a long time. Why? The writer tries to sound intelligent but ends up making no sense.
The contention between atheists and theists has been the god at the center of all religions. You dont see atheist takling cults even though religion and cults have similar structures. You think you are excluded and special by claiming to be a godly man which puts you in a very precarious position.

Now lets talk.

What does it mean to be godly? What makes a godly man be a man on the right track?

HardMirror:
wow! Somehow i missed this comment. Wow! And i thought you had some sense. End of discussion with you. Got no time for morons. This is the very reason why i dont play nice with you guys. You dont have an iota of sense to argue reasonable and defend god with truth and sincerity.

zionmde:

my profession is fully scientific. So come of all that Science negates religion. I once asked my professor, only one thing fails the 2nd law of thermodynamics and that is life. Why? That was where school dismissed
I am a Christian I am hardworking, I sleep less than 4hrs everyday, yes I tithe, help people that can't pay me back.
The ways of God cannot be analyzed through our human understanding. if ur mind cannot comprehend the beginning of life, why do u think u can understand God's way
Am proud to be a Christian
If not for Christianity I would have been dead by now
So if I am alive because I believe in God, I owe my life to following God.
About emotions, I hardly have or show any. People around me will tell u better

Alphanancy:
Hmmmnn... Op please continue and while you are at it, do well to ignore those who still live in delusion. I mean the christians. I gave up on christianity few months ago after being born again for over 20years. Though i still believe in the existence of a supreme being/creator

Strawman:
Nothing you type on Nairaland will alter anybody's religious beliefs even in the slightest.
Just saying...

yemmit90:
Being awhile i took part in this type of discussion. If you are here argueing with Atheists or Deists, you are simply wasting your time because you can never have require facts to backup your claims.

We are simply what we believed. Serving God or not have nothing to do with your existence. Although, religions give hope upon hope with no hope of when and how to fulfil them. Human need more wisdoms and ability to exploit nature than they needs prayers or worshiping a particular god. The fact is that, if you dont act, no amount of paryers can solve your problems.

Every problem ever knows to humanity have a solution,it is only left for us to use our natural talents and wisdoms to discover these solutions.