zionmde:

U know Wat u re missing. That emptiness, that space for a friend that sticks so closer than any other person..
I almost lost my faith. If I had lost it, I wouldn't have been alive today. am only alive because somehow I believe taking a life no matter whose own it is will lead u to hell. those days I fear big deep gutters and transformers more than anything else because I was afraid of bowing to the temptation of ending it.
I never knew God was just waiting for me to give me a life I had never thought I would have. today I look back and say "Thank God he never left me alone"

HardMirror:
glad it did. Wish my parent and siblings can all snap out of the chicanery

HardMirror:
lol. You want to invent an emptiness for me? I dont feel any emptiness. Dont know what imaginary emptiness you people keep referring to.

zionmde:

Lol
U know Wat I mean
u are the only one that knows Wat u feel wen u are all alone thinking about ur life..
All I have to tell u is that its not too late. I pray one day all the questions in ur heart will be answered in such a way that u see ur way back to God.

zionmde:

lol
psycho? Am just telling u the obvious. yes God really needs u. U are a big asset to him. if u have anything u wish to tell him, he will gladly listen to u

Sorry for Wat happened to the poor girl. Evil is predominant in this wicked world, it takes God, u and I to combat it. if u do nothing it will even get worse. If u really think that it is natural for a man to rape a 5 year old then u are wrong. I mean Wat aroused the man. its the devil

I didn't doubt u the first time I only wanted to give u a plate of ur own medicine

U couldn't stand in the spiritual gap to prevent it?
Have u thought about the fact that God might have spoken before that event and ur heart was too hardened to hear him? He doesn't impose his will on us, he allows us to make choices. Even the sun shining on u can be covered from getting to u if u don't want it. its all about choices

No am not desperate to make God relevant, if he is not relevant to me, Wat would I gain in trying to make him look relevant to u?

zionmde:

Lol
U know Wat I mean
u are the only one that knows Wat u feel wen u are all alone thinking about ur life..
All I have to tell u is that its not too late. I pray one day all the questions in ur heart will be answered in such a way that u see ur way back to God.

CHARLOE:

Guy u b learner, you're led by feelings, emotions, faith etc. Grow up n start thinking, frm basic to critical thinking, n u shall know d truth, n d truth will set u free! Problem is, u've been taught not to ask questions/use ur head, d fear of an imaginary hell fire is a clog in d wheel of ur thinking faculty, bringing it to a stand still. Wake up frm dis delusion, take control of ur life n stop relying on an imaginary friend, only then shall u find true happiness. Example : if God can provide u money for recharge card, break plates for u, y can't he rescue a vulnerable child from a rapist, or a defenseless victim from a murderer? or is ur recharge card/laptop/broken plates more important than a life? if he really fed some adults in a desert for 40yrs, n some 1000s of people wit fish n bread, y cant he feed starving n malnourished children in some parts of africa n all over d world?
Good n bad things, favour/success, failure/disappointment etc happen to people of all religions, colour, tribe etc When something good happens, d xtian says its God/jesus, d muslim says its allah, d buhdist gives d glory to buhda etc, when its an unfortunate occurence, d fall guy, devil, is to blame. If i share d good things/testimonies i've experienced recently, you'd b shocked, years ago i would've ran to d church to give testimonies (free marketing for pastor business), but now i understand better.
Religion has done more harm than good, made our youths redundant/lazy; instead of using their god-given brain for research, science n tech, they're doing all-night praying n begging god for breakthrough, ironically, ur breakthru is in providing solutions to problem n not praying or seed sowing/tithing, like they tell u in church. (by d way, not an atheist, more like a deist),

CHARLOE:

Guy u b learner, you're led by feelings, emotions, faith etc. Grow up n start thinking, frm basic to critical thinking, n u shall know d truth, n d truth will set u free! Problem is, u've been taught not to ask questions/use ur head, d fear of an imaginary hell fire is a clog in d wheel of ur thinking faculty, bringing it to a stand still. Wake up frm dis delusion, take control of ur life n stop relying on an imaginary friend, only then shall u find true happiness. Example : if God can provide u money for recharge card, break plates for u, y can't he rescue a vulnerable child from a rapist, or a defenseless victim from a murderer? or is ur recharge card/laptop/broken plates more important than a life? if he really fed some adults in a desert for 40yrs, n some 1000s of people wit fish n bread, y cant he feed starving n malnourished children in some parts of africa n all over d world?
Good n bad things, favour/success, failure/disappointment etc happen to people of all religions, colour, tribe etc When something good happens, d xtian says its God/jesus, d muslim says its allah, d buhdist gives d glory to buhda etc, when its an unfortunate occurence, d fall guy, devil, is to blame. If i share d good things/testimonies i've experienced recently, you'd b shocked, years ago i would've ran to d church to give testimonies (free marketing for pastor business), but now i understand better.
Religion has done more harm than good, made our youths redundant/lazy; instead of using their god-given brain for research, science n tech, they're doing all-night praying n begging god for breakthrough, ironically, ur breakthru is in providing solutions to problem n not praying or seed sowing/tithing, like they tell u in church. (by d way, not an atheist, more like a deist),

zionmde:

my profession is fully scientific. So come of all that Science negates religion. I once asked my professor, only one thing fails the 2nd law of thermodynamics and that is life. Why? That was where school dismissed
I am a Christian I am hardworking, I sleep less than 4hrs everyday, yes I tithe, help people that can't pay me back.
The ways of God cannot be analyzed through our human understanding. if ur mind cannot comprehend the beginning of life, why do u think u can understand God's way
Am proud to be a Christian
If not for Christianity I would have been dead by now
So if I am alive because I believe in God, I owe my life to following God.
About emotions, I hardly have or show any. People around me will tell u better

frank317:

he needs me and he cannot prove himself to me, what kind of God are u even serving.

It takes u and and i who are obviously limited to combat evil... if ur God was involved given his perfection(according to u guys)we will never have a disorganized world.

Isnt that ur problem? u fail to differentiate between ur claims to have access to almighty creator and see him in action and when an unbeliever tells u something. u tend to equate man and God... u obviously dont appreciate the God u calim to worship.

thats this. did I stand in any spiritual gap when I helped out a young girl on the street whose mother ddint have money to feed her? Did i in any spiritual gap when i some loved ones around me? how come u are suddenly accusing me of not standing in spiritual gap because of my not being close by to help the young girl? why do u suddenly assume i have never been of help to anyone? do u even see how religion is making u reason?

yet you cannot prove how relevant he has been to u, just stories of coincidences that can happen to anyone... when something u dont understand happens to u, u suddenly call it God, is this how relevant ur God can be? mcheww

HardMirror:
good that u know that i am the owner of my own feelings, so stop assuming i feel empty. Possibly you do, does not mean i do

frank317:


U keep on repeating meaningless words. "If not for Christianity I would have died by now"
Is this what u are really afraid of? Death? This is why u are worshiping a mythical being that u have never seen because people of the old have helped u form the word God. U are busy shouting it all over the place. What is God? Where is God? No one can phantom the beginning of the world so therefore, let's scream God? How does this two relate?
Are there no dead Christians?
Will u never die because u are a Christian?
Am I dead because I am not a Christian?

Why do u make baseless comparison and hold on this dead straw as to why u remain a Christian.

In all ur ranting I am yet to see one single value Christianity has given u.

All that u claim to have achieved as a Christian, so many atheists, Muslims, Hindus have achieved.

All I see is this special feel good feeling that u have allowed to becloud ur head, u seem not to realize that there is actually nothing special about u.

This life u are boasting with will one day be taken from u, if u like swallow Christianity into ur blood.

zionmde:

I am only telling u that its only u that can tell urself the truth. I know nothing about Wat u feel neither am I going to believe Wat u write here about the state of ur mind. the truth u know inside u is the thing that will guarantee ur freedom

zionmde:

He has proved himself countless times to u but u refused to see it. Balaam didn't decipher Wat his donkey was communicating to him until he almost died

No God handed over the affairs of the world to man. He only intervenes when he is called upon. Angels don't engage until they are given the instruction to do so. I have stood in the gap for a lot of people and u might not believe the testimonies

no u missed my point. Op told his story I didn't doubt, I didn't ask for evidence, I told mine suddenly all of u started shouting evidence evidence

I mean standing in the gap in prayers. The reason for prayers is to take care of impending evil. a girl once called me that she and her little sister are about packing out of their house in the night because of her step mother. I was thousands of miles away I stood in the gap, a week later the girl who might have been sent to the streets told me the woman secretly packed her loads and ran away and hadn't returned for 1 week

I can write a 200 paged book on those coincidences.
It started from my very tender age. I have seen so much in my life that nothing can ever convince me that it was nature. I don't care Wat u want to call it, but I am glad I believe Wat I believe today. last time I physically met an atheist who thinks that atheist means intelligence, I dropped religion and disgraced him scientifically. Its so popular for u guys to think u know more than religious people.

zionmde:

Its my life
Wen it was only Me and my decision, where was ur so called atheistic wisdom wen God held me back? He saved me and I owe him my life. No matter u twist it it will not change that

Becloud my head? lol, I don't know wat u think u know that makes u think u reason better than me. There is everything special about me. Nobody on earth can reason the way I reason, that's one out of many

Yet to see a single value? this is a faceless forum that's why, u will be shocked who u are arguing with online. So let's not dabble into personality. If u notice very well I have kept this argument far away from ur personality focus on the bone of contention pls

Yes I boast about my life in God. Am glad that wenever I talk to someone about myself I always let the person know that its God. Yes am proud my God made me whom I am today. If I die today, I will do that with smiles on my face.

frank317:


Lol.. This creator seems to be for u alone. Unfortunately I don't see anything. U are just allowing ur emotions and desire get the best of u bro. I am just trying to make u see that what u call God is not really God... Such is happening and can happen to anyone with or without this belief. Its pretty clear that u have been deceived.
If ur God cannot save a little girl from being molested he cannot provide a laptop for u when u need it capish?

HardMirror:
you have said it all

HardMirror:
good! I am more satisfied being an atheist infact i cringe whenever i remember i once believed the bible as truth. No i see all christians as fools including my own parent. It is excusable when you dont have it your belief challenged by alternative perspectives but it is pure hypocrisy and dishonesty to wave away questions against your religion that you cannot even refute sincerely

zionmde:

I believe the bible. In the same bible, little children below the age of 2yrs were murdered by Herod and God only saved Jesus. In the same bible, u can ask why didn't God stop him? He has reasons for all his actions, the one he wants us to know, he reveals it.
As for being deceived, I ask by who?
U are obviously not too exposed to the spiritual world. If u have absolute peace with ur life continue. If God wants to get u today it won't take him time. I have seen worst cases

zionmde:

U see ur parents as fools?
And u said u are satisfied being the way u are.
u are wiser than Christians who taught u from nursery through university.
hmm
It is finished
I have not waved away any question from u. But its useless answering questions here because the person on the other end won't even care to read it

freecocoa:
So they stole your laptop and you ended up just dashing babalawo money, you fvcked up o.

I had a similar experience in my final year in secondary school.

My purse with money, phone and one of my dad's sim card in it, was stolen in the hall after our mock exam one day, and I knew I was in big trouble because of that sim card. That's how some people told me of one woman somewhere, who sees past events in a mirror, my friends suggested we go, (even though I have never been one to believe in juju,it always caused a fight between me and my people even as a teenager then, I couldn't explain anything explicitly o but it just never made sense) but see me na, a desperate and angry girl, I forward marched to the place with my squad.

On getting there, the mamalawo's receptionist told us she doesn't come out till 4 pm(i never knew we had vampire babalawos/mamalawos till that day), we were made to wait and after what seemed like eons, the orobo woman came out, led us into one smelly small hut, I could see my friends getting scared but I was silently praying this woman please be the real deal. She asked me what brought us, I explained, she said I'd pay a certain fee I don't remember the exact amount, I did, then she instructed us to go buy white kola nuts, alligator pepper and some sort of native chalk, we went, bought the items came back, handed them over and she asked me if I wanted the person mad or dead, after singing one fake song she just composed right there, I was like , madam I just want my purse and things in it ni.

There I was, hoping that this woman would show me who stole my stuff in the mirror, only for this oloriburuku of a woman to say that, there's no other way, that it's either the person dies or runs mad, Tbh I felt like puncturing her fat stomach that day for wasting my time and money but I just told her to forget about the whole thing, all she was able to achieve was give me proof of all the talk about juju being hogwash.

Anyways what am I saying? I'm saying that, if we humans can decide not to hurt people who genuinely wronged us, then a god who decides to burn people in an endless fire for doing absolutely nothing, but exercise their freewill of not choosing to worship him, then he is not only a psychopath but a dumb one at that and the idea of such a god, should be vehemently discouraged.

freecocoa:
So they stole your laptop and you ended up just dashing babalawo money, you fvcked up o.

I had a similar experience in my final year in secondary school.

My purse with money, phone and one of my dad's sim card in it, was stolen in the hall after our mock exam one day, and I knew I was in big trouble because of that sim card. That's how some people told me of one woman somewhere, who sees past events in a mirror, my friends suggested we go, (even though I have never been one to believe in juju,it always caused a fight between me and my people even as a teenager then, I couldn't explain anything explicitly o but it just never made sense) but see me na, a desperate and angry girl, I forward marched to the place with my squad.

On getting there, the mamalawo's receptionist told us she doesn't come out till 4 pm(i never knew we had vampire babalawos/mamalawos till that day), we were made to wait and after what seemed like eons, the orobo woman came out, led us into one smelly small hut, I could see my friends getting scared but I was silently praying this woman please be the real deal. She asked me what brought us, I explained, she said I'd pay a certain fee I don't remember the exact amount, I did, then she instructed us to go buy white kola nuts, alligator pepper and some sort of native chalk, we went, bought the items came back, handed them over and she asked me if I wanted the person mad or dead, after singing one fake song she just composed right there, I was like , madam I just want my purse and things in it ni.

There I was, hoping that this woman would show me who stole my stuff in the mirror, only for this oloriburuku of a woman to say that, there's no other way, that it's either the person dies or runs mad, Tbh I felt like puncturing her fat stomach that day for wasting my time and money but I just told her to forget about the whole thing, all she was able to achieve was give me proof of all the talk about juju being hogwash.

Anyways what am I saying? I'm saying that, if we humans can decide not to hurt people who genuinely wronged us, then a god who decides to burn people in an endless fire for doing absolutely nothing, but exercise their freewill of not choosing to worship him, then he is not only a psychopath but a dumb one at that and the idea of such a god, should be vehemently discouraged.

iupac120:
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My sister, you have spoken based on your perception of how God should behave. I understand where you're coming from! But the Bible made us to understand that the way of God is different from the way of man. Luke 13:1-5
JESUS lived a life full of love during his earthly ministry and never hurt a fly, but when the disciples met him in Luke 13 and started to inform Jesus about the Galileans (masses) that was killed by Pilate (leader) hoping that Jesus would rebuke/curse Pilate, rather Jesus told them except you repent you shall like perish.
God is not a man that you should use human wisdom because it is foolishness to him.
I studied about many books questioning the existence of God before I gave my life to Christ.

orisa37:
We are talking of Christianity not Piggery 'cos you have discovered you are just a swine.

orisa37:
Pained? No. I see my God everyday and everytime I value to. It is you who cannot see my God because He won't cast His Pearls among swines.

UyiIredia:
I am a realist and have since realized that some people will continually make the choice to have a religion of sorts even supposing there was none. Some others are amenable to leave religion and see it for what it is: mere men talking. Instead of talking on Nairaland it may help to write books on it.

reasonwitme:
i am crying right now cos of u my brother.how can God allow an asset to his kingdom to wander away.u r an extraordinary being, deep rooted in God,did wonders and about to turn d world around for him but here u r,wandering away. Y God?I have one prayer point;God Pls prove urself again in d life of dis ur son so he can testify of ur existence.my brother,u r too dangerous and knowledgeble to b left in d hands of unbelief.u shall do greater things for God.