There is serious lack of humor in this thread

Everybody takes everybody too seriously

Arguments are expected to be made in a British gentlemanly way

Fights are squashed before they are started

This is nairaland for godsakes!!

Earthquake1:


Do you really think anything he says would mean anything or change anything?

What happened to bantering and having fun with theories

You British born/non-British born have some serious lack of humor

leave him to be carrying rubbish talk on his head. Why should icon caution the guy? Is icon4s the moderator here?

If you want to caution him, do so, he has as much right as anyone else to caution someone, instead of having expectations. Oasis is not a small boy on this thread, so, shouting up and down for back up is unbecoming.

If you see something wrong, caution it. Don't come here to accuse people because they did not see what you saw, like icon4s tightly stated, it takes a bigot to see a bigot. Maybe Oasis needs to check himself as well

Kalapizim:
him own better sef Ryan babel has eight goals for Holland since 2005

Na ororo change the emphasis of football to goalscoring o. lol


Babel was just like Sturridge to me kinda.
Some footballers yaff suffer.


Bendtner sef that was called the next Ronaldo nko?


Ighalo should just be a pro on field and liase with the forwards to be rotating the 9 and get goals. That way Rohr would just be like they have matured. He can't do Nada. Ronaldinho did it severally. Same for Gattuso and Pires.

forgiveness:


I saw a certain player fumbled in the last two matches he played but dem never see that one. That's why I don't take some peeps seriously here.

They won't see It because that player is a fan favorite

And I am not saying ighalo is better,if some others player have any bad game like ighalo they won't be insulted the way ighalo is being insulted

Icon4s:


Excuse me Mr Man, what is the meaning of all these now?

If you want to attack him for the comment he made why not face him? Why are you bringing me into this? Am I the owner of that moniker?

Well, I don't have time for this your antics this morning.

Just leave me in Peace.

Your Response to my post seems as an indirect attack to me. You claimed its easier for a Bigot to identify a bigotry Post. Bruh..... You did try to be diplomatic but I fully understand the Message you are passing.

I was wrong to quote you cos I respected you like I do to few Monikers on this Thread. Enjoy your Peace Sir.

Petrobros:


Oya team pro Ighalo wetin una get to say after this kine comment?

Some people are so narrowed down to the current small picture and forget where we are coming from as a nation.

Thank you sir for this reminder.

You are truly a man of experience.

Respect Sir!

Are we saying Ighalo has lived up to expectations? N ....O No!

What we are saying is, stop giving false analyses. EOD

Besides that, you don't just critics, you have to profound solutions.

Are you not one of those who sold us Iheanacho is a striker?

Are you not one of those against Kayode call up to the National team despite winning highest goalscorer and best player in Austrian league?

Are you not one of those who clamoured for the inclusion of Lokosa over such player?

Why are you people crying now?

groundnutoil:
sorry plz I want to ask is it dat we don't have anybody dat is a natural left footer day can play d no 7 (right winger) for us who can cut inside and take shots with his left like Salah or mahrez or cross with left

We have Sheyi Ojo who is a natural left footer and plays no 7. He is playing in Reims in the French Ligue 1.

Earthquake1:
There is serious lack of humor in this thread

Everybody takes everybody too seriously

Arguments are expected to be made in a British gentlemanly way

Fights are squashed before they are started

This is nairaland for godsakes!!

Instead of making friends daily on dis thread, we make new enemies ,pathetic

forgiveness:


I tire ooo. Maybe he wan take do wururu get attention.

Me no dey celebrate... I go...when em never go. Make em announce first mo we see. Nothing to celebrate.

I am celebrating already, if una no wan join me celebrate, una dey own on una own. Lookman is one Anglo Nigerian I so much love his style, hence I wanted to strangle Southgate when he was trynna rubbish him here, tipping his client Onyedinma to make a better career at the long run. He kept on calling lookman a packaged deal where money changed hand, while Onyedinma to him was the real deal. Hahaha today, where is Onyedinma compared to Lookman

safarigirl:
i saw it as a stupid post, just like I see most of what forgiveness writes at times

You laugh over it, like I tease forgiveness these days, because eventually, there is no point digging deeper into ridiculous assertions.

Where was this your advocacy when forgiveness said the invites of Ajayi and Collins were to cover up for Nwakali's invite?


It's apparent you equally reason like forgiveness, since we want to start giving credence to rubbish

Do you want me to dig my Post(s)/where i have cautioned Forgiveness?! I have stopped paying Attention to him, cos he's very stubborn and won't change. He believes he's doing nothing Wrong, rather expressing his Views objectively.

However, my Point exactly is; we need to quench an ignited Fire before it rapidly develops to a Volcano. The Post was wrong, the motive is easier to identify but Chief said nothing is wrong with it.

Trust me, the Post would have caused unreasonable Discourse, resulting to name-callings, exhausting Pages for nothing good. I requested Icon4s to caution him cos I respected him as an Elder, but he sees nothing wrong with the Post, rather indirectly throw a subtle at my Direction.

I don't believe this Ademola lookman's news at all, this looks so much like a Tammy, draw the attention to yourself and deny them. This definitely is a Tammy. Make we dey see sha.

BascoVanVeli:


I just had a problem with the implication that fans sitting on the track meant violence was near. It may not have looked the typical European setting but that is ok because this is Africa and we should be allowed to do things our way. If the fans are ok with sitting on the ground why should we stop them? There are people that will reject your nice leather chair just to sit on the ground.

Algeria has not played good football since Mahrez won African best. Any excuse will do at the moment.

Football rules are made by FIFA not Africans. The question should be, is it acceptable according to FIFA rule? Yes or no will do.

Forgiveness is my original Moniker according to a Dunce. I won't bother to quote or reply him. He should further his Career as a Detective, cos its kinda obvious - its his Calling.

ChrisKels:



I am celebrating already, if una no wan join me celebrate, una dey own on una own. Lookman is one Anglo Nigerian I so much love his style, hence I wanted to strangle Southgate when he was trynna rubbish him here, tipping his client Onyedinma to make a better career at the long run. He kept on calling lookman a packaged deal where money changed hand, while Onyedinma to him was the real deal. Hahaha today, where is Onyedinma compared to Lookman

ChrisKels I will advice you don't believe this news just yet, take it with a pinch of salt. Let's hear from the horses mouth. Remember Tammy

Magink:
I don't believe this Ademola lookman's news at all, this looks so much like a Tammy, draw the attention to yourself and deny them. This definitely is a Tammy. Make we dey see sha.

As far as I am concerned, I won't celebrate over any FB player switching his/her allegiance to us, we re d one to help deir careers and not d oda way round,I can only rejoice if it were to be cronaldo or messi, ..wc is not possible anyway

Icon4s:


Hahaha. Bros, That 3-5-2 formation against Iceland we deployed 2 false 9 in Iheanacho and Musa. Each of them played the role intermittently.

Many at time peeps here think the midfield is just around the center Circle. The midfield also extends to the flanks.

A false 9 typically falls deep into the midfield and also joins the attack. He is just an attacking midfielder that also runs into CF positions. Now note that an AM must not always play centrally. We can have an AM playing from the sides. Which is more like what Iwobi does in the SE and also under Wenger.

As I said, these things are not automated. It depends on how the coach has set up the team and defined roles for the players. Rohr did not play a recognized CF in that Iceland game. Musa and Iheanacho were used as false 9 interchangeably.

Modified: since you said Musa was always on the wings, in what position was he when he got that pass for that first goal?

No offence but you are getting it all totally wrong. A false 9 IS NOT an attacking midfielder running into the CF position, rather he is a CF running into the attacking midfield position. Those are two distinct patterns, one is running forward whilst one is running backwards. When you play two forwards one almost always drops into the position that Ahmed Musa was operating from and it is called the SS position not a false 9 position, I mean that was what Anelka used to do at Chelsea, they are not even remotely connected to each other and it is quite funny you are equating the two. As an AMF you can go to any side to detect play, even before Iwobi we had even Di Maria operating as a wide AMF like in that champions league final against Atletico, that one is totally different but a false 9 is a rather distinct position. In conclusion Iheanacho and Musa were playing the SS role not the false 9 role please.


to answer your question I could ask you where was Dembele when Messi gave him that pass with which he scored against Chelsea. Or maybe where do you normally see Ronaldo during games? Are they also false 9s? A good coach will tell you that your formation is rigid until you enter the final third of the pitch then you can start being creative with your movements, even if it means a RB occupying a CFs position so long as it is effective. Okay his second goal was scored from which position?

forgiveness:


Football rules are made by FIFA not Africans. The question should be, is it acceptable according to FIFA rule? Yes or no will do.

If the match went on then how can you say they went against FIFA rules? Show us the rule that says man must not sit on the ground? Who were they putting at risk? Not a single soul.

Icon4s:


China you said?

Red hot in China but repeatedly proven to be Ice cold in the SE.

I never said red hot with respect to this or that. I said he is in red hot form and quite simply that is true. Do we have another striker with a better goals to game ratio right now?

BascoVanVeli:



If the match went on then how can you say they went against FIFA rules? Show us the rule that says man must not sit on the ground? Who were they putting at risk? Not a single soul.

oga Basco when b Liberia match

Mickael2:



I never said red hot with respect to this or that. I said he is in red hot form and quite simply that is true. Do we have another striker with a better goals to game ratio right now?

We don't have any other striker doing anything meaningful. I honestly am getting to the point that I want Ighalo put out of his misery. The abuse and blatant lies are too much from a country like Nigeria. If this was Brazil I would accept it but come on mehn we all act as if we would have beat France and gone on to lift the trophy if not for Ighalo.

TEGADR:


oga Basco when b Liberia match

7pm Sir still trying to find out who will show it.

forgiveness:


We have Sheyi Ojo who is a natural left footer and plays no 7. He is playing in Reims in the French Ligue 1.

cant we get him in d team

Mickael2:


If I remember correctly you are the advocate of 'manage what we have'. I believe you have at least rudimentary experience in coaching and I am sure you know that 99% of coaches have a standard formation which they always fall back on especially when the national team is involved. Moreover you do know that virtually no successful national team plays with a false 9? The training you have to undergo to field a false 9 is impossible to achieve in a short while,I remember when we tried it in our medical games and the movement of our 'false 9' confused even the CBs and we had 4 weeks to train with a proper coach and the dude was talented.

So first off, who is currently the striker who can precisely fit into a 4-2-3-1 which is virtually what we play nevermind the 4-3-3 you see? Don't say we can switch to a 3-5-2 because you know that is just a backup and the coach draws his list with preference to players that can execute that 4-2-3-1 formation, so please point out another player that can function there. Musa isn't exactly the type of player that can function maximally without the ball, you can see that most of his goals from 2014 are all as a result of playing the ball to his feet in space, do you have space as a single striker against 2 rough African CBs? Please do not even mention Iheanacho. Back in those days we had coaches who were actually tacticians, you can see Keshi switching tactics to play Ameobi as a CF today and then Martins next week, right now all we have is a German stiff-neck who arranges his team in the same 4-2-3-1 formation everyday then goes to sleep on the sideline, even if Rohr was appointed in the 2000s he still would have phased out Uche and other small out and out strikers then who could not play without the ball.

Then who exactly can operate as our false 9? Again don't mention Iheanacho it has already failed before, ok maybe Musa, but he is not creative enough for that role at all, who else? Even if we crack that part, a false 9 formation only works well with CFs disgusied as wingers, when Messi was playing as a false 9 he had Henry and Villa at the wings, original CFs, so which of our CFs now can play the the Villa/Henry role well? Will our false 9s be effective enough to create chances for the CFs? There is a reason why Chelsea's false 9 approach with Hazard as the false 9 and Willian(another conventional winger) as one of the supposed CFs who should benefit from the pockets of space left by the false 9. So saying get rid of Ighalo without a proper replacement is going to trigger a chain of events that currently we cannot afford. So until we get rid of that imposter parading as a coach and hire an actual tactician who can use our players well enough just get used to Ighalo or Ighalo type strikers

Why must we tailor our pattern of play to suit players underperforming in that formation?

Is it because we don't have other strikers again in Europe that can play in that formation?

Why must we play false 9 to accommodate certain players in the national team?

When It is not that we don't have strikers that can play in that formation. We do have but Rohr and his crew have tactical blocked these boys from representing their country.

The biggest of them all is Kayode Olanrewaju of Sharktar Doneskt. He has refused to give the boy a chance and he tactical dropping him from the world cup list to accommodate some players. I am waiting to see if Rohr will overlook him once he's fit to play and performs week in week out for Sharktar Doneskt in the league and the Champions league.

Other players are Nwakaeme, Dessers and Dennis who are Nigerians and also available as strikers to play that role.

Therefore, players like Ighalo, Iheanacho and Simy should be dropped if have got nothing to offer in that role.

Why keep them and try to tailor the pattern of play to suit their style when they have underperformed and we have serious players ready to take their slots?

I think it is high time Rohr kick out underperforming players from the team. There is no need for false 9 nonsense to accommodate certain players in the team.

Na dem get national team?

BascoVanVeli:

7pm Sir still trying to find out who will show it.

thanks boss, please find out.. thank you

safarigirl:
man probably reasoned that the best he would ever get from England is a shirt in their U21 team and while that may be good enough for some, it's not enough for him

Yes! The same was said about Dele Ali that he will be played once and afterward dumped by England but the rest they say is history.

Mickael2:




No offence but you are getting it all totally wrong. A false 9 IS NOT an attacking midfielder running into the CF position, rather he is a CF running into the attacking midfield position. Those are two distinct patterns, one is running forward whilst one is running backwards. When you play two forwards one almost always drops into the position that Ahmed Musa was operating from and it is called the SS position not a false 9 position, I mean that was what Anelka used to do at Chelsea, they are not even remotely connected to each other and it is quite funny you are equating the two. As an AMF you can go to any side to detect play, even before Iwobi we had even Di Maria operating as a wide AMF like in that champions league final against Atletico, that one is totally different but a false 9 is a rather distinct position. In conclusion Iheanacho and Musa were playing the SS role not the false 9 role please.


to answer your question I could ask you where was Dembele when Messi gave him that pass with which he scored against Chelsea. Or maybe where do you normally see Ronaldo during games? Are they also false 9s? A good coach will tell you that your formation is rigid until you enter the final third of the pitch then you can start being creative with your movements, even if it means a RB occupying a CFs position so long as it is effective. Okay his second goal was scored from which position?

You don't get me.

A false 9 is typically An attacking midfielder or a striker who has been deployed in an attacking position, without having a recognized CF in that game. But often drifts to the midfield and also joins the attack.

This is just like describing an advanced attacking midfielder.

And note also that the false 9 plays also the SS role and as well as the number 10 role when the need arises in a particular match. This can be or may not be in the game plan. But it does happen. These players are not robots. They cannot play 100% according to instruction

And see in coaching, two coaches may not see things exactly the same way , due to different coaching philosophies. Coach A might call Musa an SS in that game another might see him as a false 9. Also depending on what the coach was seeing. Most times players go into the field and not play 100% according to the coach's instructions and u end up seeing him in positions he is not meant to be. It happens a lot with young adventurous players.

So bros, you are not Rohr so am I not. We were not there when he drew up his game plan. So u hold on to what u think Musa played and let me hold onto mine.

BascoVanVeli:


Just because black people are near the pitch doesn't mean something bad will happen. Abi are there tracks in the EPL? When Akwa went to Gambia they had nothing but good things to say about the fans.

Its have nothing to do with skin colors .

Its an official match for the qualification to african nation cup 2019 , not a friendly match, not a match between friends in the neighborhood , even for a local championship game it would be not normal .

And you can be a terminator , having near you 40.000 poeple that can enter the pitch easily, 40.000 poeple that security service could not get them back in the stands , you will be intimidated , its not fair for an official match . so imagine for professionnal players with millions dollars contract with club who play in europ and always in security conditions !

And even for fans safety 40.000 fan inside for a 25.000 stadium capacity , many gambian fans were unjured, few minutes before match start we have seen many medical evacuations and even an heart massage, cardiac arrest ( see video)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jPspzS22hs

The algerian players substitutes for the match were sitting next to an advertising billboard literally right on the edge of the pitch. ( pic1)


They played some random African pop music instead of the Algerian national anthem.


And you think its normal to play in this condition , this is one of the problems of our continent. we justify everything with oh man , this is Africa it's normal .

Humility017:
Pinnick has been appointed by FIFA to head Ghana FA normalization team...same pinnick just successfully handled Liberia FA election..

pinnick is really a man Nigeria should be proud of.
competence is just something you can't hide.
I see him going places....

#kudos to pinnick.

Pinnick all the way.

This is an FA chairman that knows what it is to run a country's football.

Earthquake1:


Do you really think anything he says would mean anything or change anything?

What happened to bantering and having fun with theories

You British born/non-British born have some serious lack of humor

Somebody made a comment kind of comparing too players. And I said we need both players. And next thing I was being attacked for not cautioning the poster against bigotry.

And sincerely though I didn't see the need for the comparison I didn't even reason out or attach bigotry to it. I only saw him as one of those Onyekuru fans and we have lots of them here. Do I even know the person's ethnicity that I would quickly call him a bigot?

Earthquake1:
Samuel Kalu and Onyekuru has made me non-chalant about Ademola Lookman

He can switch to wherever he wants

If you are non-chalant about a player who scored 5 goals with 4 assists in 11 games in the Bundesliga and who worth £28m in the eyes of Everton that rejected a £25m offer for him, then you don't love our National team.

A player who has performed at the highest level than Kalu and Henry combined!

There is nothing bad having the trio in the team but I doubt one will remain if Lookman and Simon are in the team. I doubt.

Earthquake1:
Samuel Kalu and Onyekuru has made me non-chalant about Ademola Lookman

He can switch to wherever he wants

Can I now caution you against bigotry because of this comment?

forgiveness:


If you are non-chalant about a player who scored 5 goals with 4 assists in 11 games in the Bundesliga and who worth £28m in the eyes of Everton that rejected a £25m offer for him, then you don't love our National team.

A player who has performed at the highest level than Kalu and Henry combined!

There is nothing bad having the trio in the team but I doubt one will remain if Lookman and Simon are in the team. I doubt.

Hey hey relax

Relax