OneJ:
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Lie lie Lienus !

Emusan posted these : "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness ,if there's no difference"?

"I'm still waiting for your answer to why herad for Christ change to Jehovah witness..."
So , U no understand the meaning of wetin U dey post for this thread ? Kai !!!!!!!
No wonder !! HHhmmmm !!!!

Him still dey argue blindly even after all the scriptural proofs that TATIME, Barrister07 & others have given on this thread.

If I missed your question s, kindly repost, pls.


Emusan, explain Acts 3:13,26. John 7:16.
No fall your hand.

When people are saying or doing something with rage within their soul at a boiling point they don't know that there are tin lines inbetween frustration, anger and madness. Now they're even typing with rage to the extent they easily loose control of their fingers, imagine someone who boldly typed "HERALD of CHRIST" and mentioned C.T Russell several times questioning why it has changed to Jehovah's Witnesses under Rutherford. Suddenly denying asking when he was typing it. Perhaps someone should remind him the title of his thread "Question for Jehovah witness,why the name?"

OneJ:
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achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about ? What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed ?

Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

OneJ: Achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about?

Achorladey: He bear witness about his father?

OneJ: What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed?

Achorladey: From his father.

OneJ: Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

Achorladey: The servant(JESUS) was made so important that Phillipians 2:9-11 states.....for this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend-of those in heaven and those know earth and those under the ground- and every tongue openly acknowledged(WITNESS if you want) that JESUS CHRIST is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Peter even said for a certaintyGod made him Lord and Christ.

MY QUESTION:

Who is our leader/teacher?

What/who did the leader/teacher ask us to bear witness about?

Where did he get the power and authority he used in commanding/ teaching us to do so?

Who gave him the power/authority?

Did the personality that gave our leader such power and authority APPROVE the commandments/teaching he gave us?

Are you willing to override/overrule the commandments/teaching?

Will you advise any other person to overstep such commands/teachings?

Did the personality that gave the servants power asked us to listen to him?

Was the Servant arrogant or authoritarian or claimed self importance or commendation when asking/teaching us?

What did the servant say about anyone who disown him? Will the servant disown such one?

Who did the servant ask us to live for?

Are you willing to live for him?

Who has the father used as Mediator?

Is the Mediator as important as the One is mediating for?

Someone posted this picture on pages 2 of this thread, please OneJ remind us who did. Please don't mention Emusan (the disguised achorladey) on NL.

budaatum:

But you never saw Jesus now, so how come you witness for Jesus? Did you see him crucified and rise from the dead? Or are just witnessing what you were told?

Are those witnessing for God not witnessing the 'evidence' they 'saw' too just like you are? Or did some people just fabricate lies in the old testament like they did in bits of the new and you're just selectively believing?!

I didn't see Jesus but there are infallible historical proofs that he died and rose again. Besides, our Lord Jesus said that we shall be his witnesses not Jehovah's witnesses.

Jesus is the central message in the preaching of the gospel. The gospel is simply the good news that Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the third day. Anyone who believes this message and confess the Lordship of Christ will be saved.

ipobarecriminals:
;DThat thing is not even free.U must register,pay money b4 u meet sumbody.Suppose dey kip match u with long throat,short/thief/person wey go rob/stab u nkoh? u must pay for beach/any party.Even if i'm not married,i knw where to get opeke here in Lekki.Dem boku well well.

Na business na, even the worst slowpoke on earth knows that nothing goes for nothing!

TruthinAction:


I didn't see Jesus but there are infallible historical proofs that he died and rose again. Besides, our Lord Jesus said that we shall be his witnesses not Jehovah's witnesses.

Jesus is the central message in the preaching of the gospel. The gospel is simply the good news that Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the third day. Anyone who believes this message and confess the Lordship of Christ will be saved.

Simple as A B C. Please what is the meaning of "God's Kingdom" that Jesus preached and taught people about? Matthew 10:3-10 24:14

achorladey:


TATIME: Keep deceiving yourself,instead of IDENTIFYING GOD'S PEOPLE you're complaining bitterly against only one religious group and YOU'RE NOT WORSHIPPING elsewhere but with the SAME group(GOD'S PEOPLE) you're criticizing.

Achorladey: CONTRADICTION things. Na your way! The stuff plenty for this thread.

Your denomination is among them bah? Hahahahahahahaah eni je fufu ni ara fun hahahahaahhahahaha. Argue against your denomination.

Jesus said "a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" Mark 3:24,25 Jesus was busy preaching and teaching when Pharisees came up against Him(not against other religions) So if you're truly worshipping with God's people, what is their group name since everyone is talking against a group bearing a strange name "Jehovah's witnesses" Are you with them or against them? Revelations 3:15,16

TruthinAction:


I didn't see Jesus but there are infallible historical proofs that he died and rose again. Besides, our Lord Jesus said that we shall be his witnesses not Jehovah's witnesses.

Jesus is the central message in the preaching of the gospel. The gospel is simply the good news that Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the third day. Anyone who believes this message and confess the Lordship of Christ will be saved.

Then I must have misunderstood somehow. To begin with, my assumption was that Christians preached the Bible and about God, as I thought Jesus too did. Now you make me understand I assumed in error.

I also did not know that Jesus' "central message" was about his death and resurrection. You leave me wondering what all those parables, and "do my will", "love the Lord your God" and "love your neighbour" was all about! My bad, with apologies.

I can't help ask, what the "infallible historical proofs that he died and rose again" are, despite it not being a topic central to the discussion at hand? Except that it seems that "infallible historical proofs" are the basis of all you said in this post. I wonder if the evidence for God is as historically infallible too. And was Jesus teaching about his death and resurrection before his death?

budaatum:

Then I must have misunderstood somehow. To begin with, my assumption was that Christians preached the Bible and about God, as I thought Jesus too did. Now you make me understand I assumed in error.

I also did not know that Jesus' "central message" was about his death and resurrection. You leave me wondering what all those parables, and "do my will", "love the Lord your God" and "love your neighbour" was all about! My bad, with apologies.

I also can't help ask, what the "infallible historical proofs that he died and rose again" are, despite it not being a topic central to the discussion at hand? Except that it seems that "infallible historical proofs" are the basis of all you said in this post. I wonder if the evidence for God is as historically infallible too. And was Jesus teaching about his death and resurrection before his death?

I wonder o, Pharisees,Sadusees,Scribes and others teamed up against Jesus because "He simply wanted to die and rose the third day" That's all. So what's the meaning of God's kingdom that has been preached even before Jesus' ministry? Daniel 2:44

TATIME:
I wonder o, Pharisees,Sadusees,Scribes and others teamed up against Jesus because "He simply wanted to die and rose the third day" That's all. So what's the meaning of God's kingdom that has been preached even before Jesus' ministry? Daniel 2:44

Lol! Maybe there's like some separate book called Bible that some people read that I have not come across, because they are saying these things and I'm wondering if na so I ignorant reach!

TATIME:
Jesus said "a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" Mark 3:24,25 Jesus was busy preaching and teaching when Pharisees came up against Him(not against other religions) So if you're truly worshipping with God's people, what is their group name since everyone is talking against a group bearing a strange name "Jehovah's witnesses" Are you with them or against them? Revelations 3:15,16

Just this very afternoon, two women knocked at my door saying they were JW they want to tell me about Christ. I told them I was involved in a discussion about them on here, but no thank you, I got work to do. Besides, I am an atheist, so love my neighbour was enough for me since I had no interest in an afterlife. They were pleasant, I dare say, and now I regret not asking them in for a cup of tea. I did have that work deadline though.

budaatum:

Lol! Maybe there's like some separate book called Bible that some people read that I have not come across, because they are saying these things and I'm wondering if na so I ignorant reach!

The truth of the matter is that they knew nothing as in NOTHING about Jesus of Nazareth! Because i bet it if they were His contemporaries, they'll do worst to Him than the Pharisees. God created man not with the ability to rule over themselves but Adam chose to be independent, Satan seized the opportunity since God drove them away from the garden and started ruling behind the scenes using humans kings as puppets. That's why God wasn't pleased with Israelites when they demanded for a King because Jesus was the one and only King who can rule mankind without being influenced by Satan's tactics. Pharisees knew all of these but they just won't accept the humility and selflessness Jesus was preaching and teaching as the only criteria to rule with Him. So they decided to do away with Him believing God can't abandon them as Abraham's descendants. God's Kingdom means a government that's to be ruled by God but with someone sitting on the throne as HIS representative. Until humans are trained to perfection in other to be 100% obedient to God, that's why Jesus must rule for 1,000 years. This is the position that the Pharisees were eyeing but Jesus told them that it's for humble and selfless people. That's what brought about the BORN AGAIN issue. So whoever is eyeing positions and high ranking offices can never be or remain a Christian.

Emusan , see your handwork. "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness, if there's no difference?"
Lie lie lienus !

cc: TATIME

budaatum:

Just this very afternoon, two women knocked at my door saying they were JW they want to tell me about Christ. I told them I was involved in a discussion about them on here, but no thank you, I got work to do. Besides, I am an atheist, so love my neighbour was enough for me since I had no interest in an afterlife. They were pleasant, I dare say, and now I regret not asking them in for a cup of tea. I did have that work deadline though.

I knew you as an atheist for long on NL but we're not surprised when we meet atheists because those claiming Christians today are totally a misrepresentation of the first century Christians. If you truly love your neighbour then there are many things you ought to know about them,true love doesn't end in simply saying "i won't hurt others" but includes how to help not only those been hurt rather you also need to assist those who became criminals due to circumstances. Well that's the main purpose of our preaching and teaching program, it's not just for the good but also those who became bad by virtue of injustice and suffering. Luke 23:43

TATIME:
I knew you as an atheist for long on NL but we're not surprised when we meet atheists because those claiming Christians today are totally a misrepresentation of the first century Christians. If you truly love your neighbour then there are many thing you ought to know about them,true love doesn't end in simply saying "i won't hurt others" but includes how to help not only those been hurt rather you also need to assist those who became criminals due to circumstances. Well that's the main purpose of our preaching and teaching program, it's not just for the good but also those who became bad by virtue of injustice and suffering. Luke 23:43

I live in a country where most people are not religious. About 60% would claim Church of England, but compared to Nigeria, they might as well be atheists except for those referred to as fundamentalists. People are CoE because of their good schools and cheaper marriages and burials. If not for that, I doubt we'd bother. But you go check how much people here donate to any good cause going, be it 'save the people in Yemen' to 'give a dog a home', and you'd be amazed. Ordinary fall down on the street and everyone rushes to help. You'd think people here want to recreate the garden of Eden in UK, the way the entire nation is geared to loving your neighbour. Yet Nigerians would say we're all going to hell. I tell them, if this is truly what leads to hell, I'd rather go there than live in Nigeria and end up in some heaven afterwards. It's just a good thing I can't help myself and like Nigeria so much, but with the way some reason, I shake my head.

achorladey:


OneJ: Achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about?

Achorladey: He bear witness about his father?

OneJ: What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed?

Achorladey: From his father.

OneJ: Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

Achorladey: The servant(JESUS) was made so important that Phillipians 2:9-11 states.....for this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend-of those in heaven and those know earth and those under the ground- and every tongue openly acknowledged(WITNESS if you want) that JESUS CHRIST is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Peter even said for a certaintyGod made him Lord and Christ.

MY QUESTION:

Who is our leader/teacher?

What/who did the leader/teacher ask us to bear witness about?

Where did he get the power and authority he used in commanding/ teaching us to do so?

Who gave him the power/authority?

Did the personality that gave our leader such power and authority APPROVE the commandments/teaching he gave us?

Are you willing to override/overrule the commandments/teaching?

Will you advise any other person to overstep such commands/teachings?

Did the personality that gave the servants power asked us to listen to him?

Was the Servant arrogant or authoritarian or claimed self importance or commendation when asking/teaching us?

What did the servant say about anyone who disown him? Will the servant disown such one?

Who did the servant ask us to live for?

Are you willing to live for him?

Who has the father used as Mediator?

Is the Mediator as important as the One is mediating for?

Indeed, God made him lord & Christ ,Christ will forever be under Jehovah's authority. 1 Cor 15:24,27. Pharaoh told Joseph: "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt" but Joseph was NEVER above Pharaoh Gen 41:40-44.

1) matt23:10 Jesus.
2)John 18:37, bear witness to the truth about God's kingdom by preaching. Mark1:14,15. He that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice. U gonna do Christ's work- preaching. Matt24:14.
3,4) From his Father, Jehovah. Matt 11:27
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
Yes
9) No
10) If u disowned him, his servants would disown U.. That's the principle in Luke 12:9, 9:26.
11,12,13) Rom 6:10 Christ lives to God, we live to God, by Christ Jesus. That's the principle we apply.
14) Jesus is mediator.
15) Mediator is important, but his importance can not supercede the One who exalted him. (Like Pharaoh & Joseph ) 1Cor 15:24,27. Christ is still answerable to his Father ,Jehovah.
Shalom

achorladey:


OneJ: Achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about?

Achorladey: He bear witness about his father?

OneJ: What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed?

Achorladey: From his father.

OneJ: Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

Achorladey: The servant(JESUS) was made so important that Phillipians 2:9-11 states.....for this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend-of those in heaven and those know earth and those under the ground- and every tongue openly acknowledged(WITNESS if you want) that JESUS CHRIST is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Peter even said for a certaintyGod made him Lord and Christ.

MY QUESTION:

Who is our leader/teacher?

What/who did the leader/teacher ask us to bear witness about?

Where did he get the power and authority he used in commanding/ teaching us to do so?

Who gave him the power/authority?

Did the personality that gave our leader such power and authority APPROVE the commandments/teaching he gave us?

Are you willing to override/overrule the commandments/teaching?

Will you advise any other person to overstep such commands/teachings?

Did the personality that gave the servants power asked us to listen to him?

Was the Servant arrogant or authoritarian or claimed self importance or commendation when asking/teaching us?

What did the servant say about anyone who disown him? Will the servant disown such one?

Who did the servant ask us to live for?

Are you willing to live for him?

Who has the father used as Mediator?

Is the Mediator as important as the One is mediating for?

Indeed, God made him lord & Christ ,Christ will forever be under Jehovah's authority. 1 Cor 15:24,27. Pharaoh told Joseph: "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt" but Joseph was NEVER above Pharaoh Gen 41:40-44.

1) matt23:10 Jesus.
2)John 18:37, bear witness to the truth about God's kingdom by preaching. Mark1:14,15. He that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice." U gonna do Christ's work- preaching. Matt24:14.
3,4) From his Father, Jehovah. Matt 11:27
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
Yes
9) No
10) If u disowned him, his servants would disown U.. That's the principle in Luke 12:9, 9:26.
11,12,13) Rom 6:10 Christ lives to God, we live to God, by Christ Jesus. That's the principle we apply.
14) Jesus is mediator.
15) Mediator is important, but his importance can not supercede the One who exalted him. (Like Pharaoh & Joseph ) 1Cor 15:24,27. Christ is still answerable to his Father ,Jehovah.
Shalom

TATIME:
How many of those witnessing to Jesus during the first century saw Him face to face, not to talk of you noisemakers today?

They saw people who saw and walked with him. Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God. So, how can you say you are a witness to someone you nor any mankind has ever seen?

TATIME:
Obey the instruction from Jesus first as "obedient sheep" not as stubborn goats (who are doing all they could to OBEY) and you'll become a witness to what He said His witnesses will experience in the hands of critics, so instead of arguing against the Lord's order why not go from house to house? And see for yourself how "easy" it is to make competent disciples for Jesus. STUBBORN GOAT, SILLY INCONSEQUENTIAL yet you've been worrying and agitating over these group for years.

First you say Christians don't go from house to house preaching, now you are saying we don't suffer at the hands of critics like you do.

Biko, what has JW ever suffered since they were founded? Do you want to compare yourselves to the missionaries who faced death spreading the gospel to the uttermost part of the earth?

Please, mention one thing you have suffered.

alBHAGDADI:
First you say Christians don't go from house to house preaching, now you are saying we don't suffer at the hands of critics like you do.

Biko, what has JW ever suffered since they were founded? Do you want to compare yourselves to the missionaries who faced death spreading the gospel to the uttermost part of the earth?

Please, mention one thing you have suffered.

Enough of the hide and seek evangelism, my friend go and meet people in their homes. That's the instruction from Jesus, then you'll know what true Christians are experiencing.

TATIME:
Enough of the hide and seek evangelism, my friend go and meet people in their homes. That's the instruction from Jesus, then you'll know what true Christians are experiencing.

Jow many times do we have to tell you that Christians do that?

Oh, you want us to be doing it everyday i.e going about spreading heresy that Mankind saw the invisible God?

budaatum:

I live in a country where most people are not religious. About 60% would claim Church of England, but compared to Nigeria, they might as well be atheists except for those referred to as fundamentalists. People are CoE because of their good schools and cheaper marriages and burials. If not for that, I doubt we'd bother. But you go check how much people here donate to any good cause going, be it 'save the people in Yemen' to 'give a dog a home', and you'd be amazed. Ordinary fall down on the street and everyone rushes to help. You'd think people here want to recreate the garden of Eden in UK, the way the entire nation is geared to loving your neighbour. Yet Nigerians would say we're all going to hell. I tell them, if this is truly what leads to hell, I'd rather go there than live in Nigeria and end up in some heaven afterwards. It's just a good thing I can't help myself and like Nigeria so much, but with the way some reason, I shake my head.

First of all there is nothing like a place where the dead are tormented, it's either you live forever or forfeit the chances. Jehovah is not interested tormenting Creatures made in HIS image, HIS plan is for everyone of us to live in peace and security. But what about those who won't agree just to HIS terms? They will continue to constitute nuisance and make life miserable for the obedient ones so Jehovah will return them to dust never to be seen again forever! That's where Adam and Eve are since the event in Eden so they're gone for good. People who are ignorant of HIS plans are our target,of course nobody in his/her right senses will hear the good news of God's kingdom and say NO but Satan's agents who carries the scriptures just like the Pharisees of Jesus' day are the problem.They have gone ahead of Christianity as misrepresentations to cause so much pain and suffering to innocent people, thus most people finds it hard to listen to the message of God's kingdom. Many have been taught the arrogance and ego from Satan's agents and most others taught we're just coming to invite them to yet another misrepresentation called Church.

alBHAGDADI:

Stop trying to be cunning.

I used verses upon verses to show you that the Bible defines death in two ways. Yet you are still asking this dumb question.

Yes, we are dust. But have you forgotten the breathe of life that made us a living soul? If we are all dust, then what do we give up when they say a man has given up the ghost?

I believe you are just using this to detail the thread. Stay on topic or create another thread for this.

Questioning God ?

You are dust and to dust YOU shall RETURN, the pronoun " YOU " is addressed to whom , the individual or his body ?

Before nko, have been busy lately . will surely create a thread for that . did Jesus die or his body ? Stay tuned !

OneJ:
Emusan , see your handwork. "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness, if there's no difference?"
Lie lie lienus !

cc: TATIME

OneJ:
Lie lie Lienus !
posted these : "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness, if there's no difference"?

It's evident that wisdom and knowledge are so far from you like heaven to earth.

NOTICE the underlined, I asked if there's no difference?

The reason behind that question was when the post I responded to said "Witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah"

Then I asked, why did Herald of Christ changed to Jehovah witness?

Now compare this to when you boldly said, I lied, JWs never ADOPTED Herald of Jesus as a NAME"

A well taught English student will understand my point isn't about NAME but no reason of changing from one to another if that statement(witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah) was actually true.


Like I always say, comprehension is a major problem for you guys.

"I'm still waiting for your answer to why herad for Christ change to Jehovah witness..."
So , U no understand the meaning of wetin U dey post for this thread ? Kai !!!!!!!
No wonder !! HHhmmmm !!!!

Anyone who lack simple comprehension shouldn't come online for debate.

I'm still waiting for you to show me, where I said JWS ADOPTED THE NAME HERALD OF CHRIST for you to call me a liar.

Him still dey argue blindly even after all the scriptural proofs that TATIME, Barrister07 & others have given on this thread.

If I missed your question s, kindly repost, pls.

Imagine, scriptural proofs indeed.

I don't need to repost anything, you're the first person to respond to the OP, so go back to your first post if replied to.

explain Acts 3:13,26. John 7:16.
No fall your hand.

Answer your first post first before you ask me any question and if you failed to quote the place where I said "JWs ADOPT the name HERALD OF CHRIST" forget my reply to any of your post here.

Shalom in advance in case you fail to provide it.

Emusan:


This part shows that you're the very person who is assuming here...
Sorry to burst your ass, the question 2 didn't derive from this as you said "if Christians are Different from Jehovah's witnesses, there should not have been anything like Early Christians BUT early Jehovah's witnesses"

Rather the question 2 stems from the claim by your organization that "The name Jehovah's witnesses have been known for over 2,700 years ago"

Which then make me to ask, if the name has been in existence for over 2,700 years ago, WHY IS YOUR PUBLICATIONS ALWAYS refer to the early people as EARLY CHRISTIANS and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESSESS?

Your two brothers who first attempt this question understood it but difficult for them to admit it.

One even went further to say it's Jesus who instructed them to separate from the name CHRISTIAN while the other said the old saints don't need to use the name because they have FAITH and OBEDIENCE to Jehovah righteou's standard.

You can see you're the very person who is confused here.

Actually I've made up mind not to reply you but I just have to clarify this.

you finally admit Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians then, so what's your problem if those Christians who lived before our time are also called Christians ? " Early " just signified a timeline

Which witness una dey give about Jesus o ,Ogbeni ?

OneJ:


Indeed, God made him lord & Christ ,Christ will forever be under Jehovah's authority. 1 Cor 15:24,27. Pharaoh told Joseph: "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt" but Joseph was NEVER above Pharaoh Gen 41:40-44.

1) matt23:10 Jesus.
2)John 18:37, bear witness to the truth about God's kingdom by preaching. Mark1:14,15. He that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice." U gonna do Christ's work- preaching. Matt24:14.
3,4) From his Father, Jehovah. Matt 11:27
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
Yes
9) No
10) If u disowned him, his servants would disown U.. That's the principle in Luke 12:9, 9:26.
11,12,13) Rom 6:10 Christ lives to God, we live to God, by Christ Jesus. That's the principle we apply.
14) Jesus is mediator.
15) Mediator is important, but his importance can not supercede the One who exalted him. (Like Pharaoh & Joseph ) 1Cor 15:24,27. Christ is still answerable to his Father ,Jehovah.
Shalom

1. Excellent

2.You are telling me what Jesus preached and his teaching on signs of the conclusion of system of things. Continue!
Please read the question and answer accordingly.

3,4. Excellent

5. Excellent
6. Excellent
7. Excellent

8. Your "yes" is for who? The servant/ the One who sent the servant.

9. Excellent, therefore learn from him and don't go about thinking your the only one preaching. Other followers of Christ apart from the 12 disciples did power works using Christ name even before his death and his return back to heaven, Without being arrogant or self commend their selves. It is the twelve disciples that were fighting against them. You remember!

10. But the One who sent the servant is more important than the servant. So when you disown the servant is of no value after all he is less important than the One who sent him. Listen to your leader. Someone made him so, don't bypass him. E no go work.

11,12,13. 2 Corinthians 5:14, 15 will do you a lot of Good. Note the servant is not as important as the One who sent him. So why live for him. Follow your leader!

14. Excellent.

15. When you can by pass the servant because his not as important as the One who sent him why use him as mediator.

Thanks for the response altogether. It's a pleasure.

Barristter07:


you finally admit Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians then, so what's your problem if those Christians who lived before our time are also called Christians ? " Early " just signified a timeline

Which witness una dey give about Jesus o ,Ogbeni ?

From where did you read that in my post?

That's how your fellow dead skull brother accused me of lying that I said Herald of Jesus was ADOPT as a name by JWs.

The witnesses we give about Jesus is the same witnesses the Apostles, Early Christians & Martyrs of Christ gave which is: Luke 24:46-48 "In this way it is written that the Christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day, and on the basis of his name repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations-starting out from Jerusalem, YOU are to be witnesses of these things."
Acts 10:43 "To him all the prophets bear witness, that everyone putting faith in him gets forgiveness of sins through his name."

Emusan:


It's evident that wisdom and knowledge are so far from you like heaven to earth.

NOTICE the underlined, I asked if there's no difference?

The reason behind that question was when the post I responded to said "Witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah"[/b]


Then I asked, why did Herald of Christ changed to Jehovah witness?

Now compare this to when you boldly said, I lied, JWs never ADOPTED Herald of Jesus as a NAME"

A well taught English student will understand my point isn't about NAME but no reason of changing from one to another if that statement(witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah) was actually true.


Like I always say, comprehension is a major problem for you guys.



Anyone who lack simple comprehension shouldn't come online for debate.

I'm still waiting for you to show me, where I said JWS ADOPTED THE NAME HERALD OF CHRIST for you to call me a liar.



Imagine, scriptural proofs indeed.

I don't need to repost anything, you're the first person to respond to the OP, so go back to your first post if replied to.




Answer your first post first before you ask me any question and if you failed to quote the place where I said "JWs ADOPT the name HERALD OF CHRIST" forget my reply to any of your post here.

Shalom in advance in case you fail to provide it.

Will you stop this nonsense ?

If Jehovah's Witness is a name , How did Herald of Christ not qualify as a name in that context?

Why waste time with you sef, Provide where The watchtower - Herald of Christ presence CHANGED to The watchtower - Jehovah's Witness ?

Emusan:


From where did you read that in my post?

That's how your fellow dead skull brother accused me of lying that I said Herald of Jesus was ADOPT as a name by JWs.

Respond to my post on this.

The witnesses we give about Jesus is the same witnesses the Apostles, Early Christians & Martyrs of Christ gave which is: Luke 24:46-48 "In this way it is written that the Christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day, and on the basis of his name repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations-starting out from Jerusalem, YOU are to be witnesses of these things."
Acts 10:43 "To him all the prophets bear witness, that everyone putting faith in him gets forgiveness of sins through his name."

In fact , this was the question that would have exposed you a long time ago .


#Claps hands in disgust# , And where did you read that Jehovah's Witnesses don't preach forgiveness of sins through Jesus name Ogbeni ?

alBHAGDADI:
They saw people who saw and walked with him. Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God. So, how can you say you are a witness to someone you nor any mankind has ever seen?

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". Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God" Hhmmm !!

The Trinity falsehood peddler done change tune suddenly.
Have U actually thought about the implications of your statement ?

For that thread (" my take on Trinity ..." by tomakint ), him & his crew they rant up & down say Jesus na God.
U come this thread dey make contradictory statement.
Abi, Jesus no be your Almighty God again?

OneJ:
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". Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God" Hhmmm !!

The Trinity falsehood peddler done change tune suddenly.
Have U actually thought about the implications of your statement ?

For that thread (" my take on Trinity ..." by tomakint ), him & his crew they rant up & down say Jesus na God.
U come this thread dey make contradictory statement.
Abi, Jesus no be your Almighty God again?

Their wicked Pastors just push them out to go argue and antagonize JWs knowing fully well that they're not competent enough to face JWs and the churchrats because they want to defend their Daddy and Mummy G. Os comes to the public arguing blindly just as the Pharisees sit in their synagogues sending their followers to go out and criticize Jesus and His followers. Imagine obstinate stupidity of the highest grade "Jesus is the Almighty God,though people saw Jesus but no one has ever seen the Almighty God and who is the Almighty God =Jesus!"