OneJ:
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Lie lie Lienus !

Emusan posted these : "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness ,if there's no difference"?

"I'm still waiting for your answer to why herad for Christ change to Jehovah witness..."
So , U no understand the meaning of wetin U dey post for this thread ? Kai !!!!!!!
No wonder !! HHhmmmm !!!!

Him still dey argue blindly even after all the scriptural proofs that TATIME, Barrister07 & others have given on this thread.

If I missed your question s, kindly repost, pls.


Emusan, explain Acts 3:13,26. John 7:16.
No fall your hand.

TATIME:
First of all there is nothing like a place where the dead are tormented, it's either you live forever or forfeit the chances. Jehovah is not interested tormenting Creatures made in HIS image, HIS plan is for everyone of us to live in peace and security. But what about those who won't agree just to HIS terms? They will continue to constitute nuisance and make life miserable for the obedient ones so Jehovah will return them to dust never to be seen again forever!

TATIME:
misrepresentation called Church.

TATIME:
"Jesus is the Almighty God, though people saw Jesus but no one has ever seen the Almighty God and who is the Almighty God =Jesus!"

budaatum:

Then I must have misunderstood somehow. To begin with, my assumption was that Christians preached the Bible and about God, as I thought Jesus too did. Now you make me understand I assumed in error.

I also did not know that Jesus' "central message" was about his death and resurrection. You leave me wondering what all those parables, and "do my will", "love the Lord your God" and "love your neighbour" was all about! My bad, with apologies.

I can't help ask, what the "infallible historical proofs that he died and rose again" are, despite it not being a topic central to the discussion at hand? Except that it seems that "infallible historical proofs" are the basis of all you said in this post. I wonder if the evidence for God is as historically infallible too. And was Jesus teaching about his death and resurrection before his death?

TATIME:
Simple as A B C. Please what is the meaning of "God's Kingdom" that Jesus preached and taught people about? Matthew 10:3-10 24:14

TruthinAction:


It will be very difficult to get you to really understand my point because I perceive you are not born again.

I never said every topic in the Bible is about the death burial and resurretion of Christ. What I did say is that the gospel of salvation is centered on Christ.

When the early church went from city to cities, their message of salvation was centered on Christ. I will quote a few verses of the scriptures to buttress my point.

Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you.

Act 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Rom 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

1Co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

2Co 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.

Phi 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Besides, you can't separate the Father from the Son. Jesus is the express image of God. He is the one who sent Jesus to die for us. And he wants us to believe in Jesus. The only message to the unsaved soul is Jesus.

OneJ:
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". Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God" Hhmmm !!

The Trinity falsehood peddler done change tune suddenly.
Have U actually thought about the implications of your statement ?

For that thread (" my take on Trinity ..." by tomakint ), him & his crew they rant up & down say Jesus na God.
U come this thread dey make contradictory statement.
Abi, Jesus no be your Almighty God again?

TruthinAction:


It will be very difficult to get you to really understand my point because I perceive you are not born again.

I never said every topic in the Bible is about the death burial and resurretion of Christ. What I did say is that the gospel of salvation is centered on Christ.

When the early church went from city to cities, their message of salvation was centered on Christ. I will quote a few verses of the scriptures to buttress my point.

Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you.

Act 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Act 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Rom 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

1Co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

2Co 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.

Phi 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Besides, you can't separate the Father from the Son. Jesus is the express image of God. He is the one who sent Jesus to die for us. And he wants us to believe in Jesus. The only message to the unsaved soul is Jesus.

TATIME:
Their wicked Pastors just push them out to go argue and antagonize JWs knowing fully well that they're not competent enough to face JWs and the churchrats because they want to defend their Daddy and Mummy G. Os comes to the public arguing blindly just as the Pharisees sit in their synagogues sending their followers to go out and criticize Jesus and His followers. Imagine obstinate stupidity of the highest grade "Jesus is the Almighty God,though people saw Jesus but no one has ever seen the Almighty God and who is the Almighty God =Jesus!"

Barristter07:

Respond to my post on this.


In fact , this was the question that would have exposed you a long time ago .


#Claps hands in disgust# , And where did you read that Jehovah's Witnesses don't preach forgiveness of sins through Jesus name Ogbeni ?

TruthinAction:


It will be very difficult to get you to really understand my point because I perceive you are not born again.

alBHAGDADI:


Don't mind those heretic JW. They are going about preaching the kingdom of God instead of preaching about salvation through Christ Jesus, which is the only way one can partake in such. Because they claim to be witnessing for Jehovah, they have dumped Jesus message and assignment he gave his followers.

TruthinAction:


God's kingdom is a system of government where God reigns Supreme and his will is established. God's kingdom is already established in the life of those who are born again but the literal manifestation on earth will begin during the Millennium Reign of Christ on earth.

TATIME:
Preaching salvation indeed. Telling people they must be born again before they can understand your message, please who will say he's not born again knowing fully well that curses is the next thing to follow "going to burn forever in hellfire "Ali and the angel"

TATIME:
So what are the benefits of the kingdom ?because many are claiming "born again" yet there's nothing virtuous to write home about them nor any positive effect on the society at large.

TATIME:
The truth of the matter is that they knew nothing as in NOTHING about Jesus of Nazareth!
Because i bet it if they were His contemporaries, they'll do worst to Him than the Pharisees.
God created man not with the ability to rule over themselves but Adam chose to be independent,
Satan seized the opportunity since God drove them away from the garden and started ruling behind the scenes using humans kings as puppets. That's why God wasn't pleased with Israelites when they demanded for a King
because Jesus was the one and only King who can rule mankind without being influenced by Satan's tactics.

Pharisees knew all of these but they just won't accept the humility
and selflessness Jesus was preaching and teaching as the only criteria to rule with Him.
So they decided to do away with Him believing God can't abandon them as Abraham's descendants.
God's Kingdom means a government that's to be ruled by God but with someone sitting on the throne as HIS representative.
Until humans are trained to perfection in other to be 100% obedient to God, that's why Jesus must rule for 1,000 years.
This is the position that the Pharisees were eyeing but Jesus told them that it's for humble and selfless people.
That's what brought about the BORN AGAIN issue.
So whoever is eyeing positions and high ranking offices can never be or remain a Christian.

budaatum:

Like me?! Bold is extermination!
Church is an organ grinder!
Gods, in general, is more representative.

MuttleyLaff:
I've been busy catching up on few of your recent comments and liking each, until I got to this one

- "God created man not with the ability to rule over themselves"
If not that they jumped the gun, eventually, they would have ruled by themselves (i.e. self rule)
- "That's what brought about the BORN AGAIN issue"
What BORN AGAIN issue?
What is the expression BORN AGAIN all about?
Why, when and how was the BORN AGAIN phrase used?
(i.e. as in, what made Jesus bring up the BORN AGAIN subject)

alBHAGDADI:


Don't mind those heretic JW. They are going about preaching the kingdom of God instead of preaching about salvation through Christ Jesus, which is the only way one can partake in such. Because they claim to be witnessing for Jehovah, they have dumped Jesus message and assignment he gave his followers.

alBHAGDADI:


You claim to be Jehovah's witnesses but you know no man has ever witnessed Jehovah. But look at Jesus Christ speaking below, telling you to be witness of events of his time.

Luke 24:46-48 "In this way it is written that the Christ would suffer and rise from among the dead on the third day, and on the basis of
his name repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations-starting out from Jerusalem, YOU are to be witnesses of these things."


Humans were witness of Jesus Christ, how he was born, preached, healed, crucified and resurrected. They went about preaching that to people in the time of the apostles. But today, JW have abandoned that message and are centering o. the kingdom of God which they have not witnessed.

Since Jesus said we are to be his witnesses, isn't it appropriate that you people should be called Jesus witnesses?

alBHAGDADI:
What kind of humans are you JW?

Didn't you see a verse that I quoted which shows Jesus saying that no man has seen God, that He the son has made him known because he is the image of the invisible God?

John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared
him .

Jesus is God the Son and if you've seen him you've seen the God the Father. Phillip his disciple was still of the opinion that the Father was all they needed, so he asked Jesus to show them the Father. Jesus showed Philip that he is sufficient for him and that he shouldn't all that bother himself about seeing the Father because he is here.


John 14:18-19
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?


Jesus is all we need, he is sufficient for us. We can't even go to the father except through him. But JW have dumped him aside, placed him in the status of an angel and a created being, and are now claiming to be receiving directly from the father whom they say they are his witnesses because they have seen him.

If Jesus is not part of the Trinity, how come he claimed to be his father?

No man has seen God, except Jesus Christ whom they saw, who made God known. And as from that time, humans can say they have seen God. And which God did they see? They saw Jesus Christ the express image of the living God. Hence they can say they saw God. Now, if they go about witnessing that they saw God, and they are asked for the name of the God, they will say Jesus because he was the one they saw.

I noticed that when JW is losing on a thread, they try to bring in another thread's topic to detail the argument. Barristter07 tried it, it failed him. So, stay off that idea and stick to topic.

hahahaha don't worry, the thread is Loading ...

Barristter07:


" We are also ... witnesses of God [Jehovah] " 1 Corinthian 15:15

Think before you talk.



Think before you talk, So show me which of the Bold Jehovah's Witnesses don't bear witness to ?

You people are not serious at all

OneJ:
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Barrister 07, can any one led by "blind guides" a.k.a. Daddy GO's & pastorpreneurs ever see the light of truth?

Their mumu is beyond redemption but then, every honest hearted observers/ guests of this thread can attest who speaks the truth... JW's off course!
Ekushe oooo.
Shalom .

Barristter07:


" We are also ... witnesses of God [Jehovah] " 1 Corinthian 15:15

Think before you talk.



Think before you talk, So show me which of the Bold Jehovah's Witnesses don't bear witness to ?

You people are not serious at all

TATIME:
Extermination of those who disregard this perfect arrangement is a must if life on earth will be blissful and secure. Psalms 37:9-11 compare to Zephaniah 2:2,3

alBHAGDADI:
That verse still centres around Jesus. Nowhere are we instructed to call ourselves Jehovah'switnesses. We are disciples of Jesus, so we are Christians.

budaatum:

Not a lot of people agree with this mode of thought anymore. It was common in Europe in the past, but not anymore do people feel the need to exterminate those who don't agree with some religious arrangement of gods that aren't their own gods. With the exception of the likes of alqaeda, isis, bokoharam, it's almost non-existent anywhere in fact. A lot of people just live and let live.

So, do JWs plan to exterminate those who don't agree with them?

OneJ:


JWs DON'T (& cant exterminate "those who don't agree with them"
Just like Noah did, our assigned is to preaching the Gospel of God's kingdom Matt24:14. Mark 13:10. . 2pet 2:5-7.

The judgement & extermination of wickedness from the whole world, God gave that assignment for Jesus to perform..
2 thesis 1:5-9.. Matt 24:36-39.
Shalom

budaatum:

Not a lot of people agree with this mode of thought anymore. It was common in Europe in the past, but not anymore do people feel the need to exterminate those who don't agree with some religious arrangement of gods that aren't their own gods. With the exception of the likes of alqaeda, isis, bokoharam, it's almost non-existent anywhere in fact. A lot of people just live and let live.

So, do JWs plan to exterminate those who don't agree with them?

budaatum:

Jesus never exterminated anyone! And God sef got tired of exterminations very early on with Noah and salt, or was it a burning, unless one wants to consider the numerous sackings of Jerusalem.