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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by oyebanji(m): 12:56pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Correct. AK 47 seems to be more reliable and amenable to our clime. QDubz: |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Hotzone(m): 12:56pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
FarahAideed:Word....AK 47 is built because of its rugged structure as it can be picked out of the mud and it can still be firing. Even its lethal power supersede would've been rivals. As for me, I can't be comfortable without my piece concealed within, no harm intended but I am against intimidation either from criminal minded civilians or politicians or my fellow brothers in arms 3 Likes
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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:58pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
FarahAideed: I think AK47 is more cheaper than the Isreali Tavor 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Larrykaysail(m): 12:59pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
[quote author=yusufu16 post=73570091][/quote] The AR-15 can effectively shoot 200 yards further than the AK-47. The AK-47 shoots a significantly larger bullet than the AR-15. The AR-15 weighs 2 pounds less (not counting a lot of hardware we add after the fact) than the AK-47 The AK-47 usually costs less than an AR-15. The AR-15 has a higher (30% more) accuracy than the AK-47 The AK-47 is more widely used globally by a long shot than the AR-15. i love my M5 1 Like |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by akereconfi: 12:59pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
It is only in Nigeria that I'm seeing people pick an AK over AR. Those lies that and AK is rugged and can fire even when submerged in mud, water and dusk has been debunked years ago. An AR wielding combatant will outdo his AK counterpart any day any time. The internet is at your disposal to research verifiable fact and also watch videos. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Adiwana: 1:01pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Shookonekilla: Dude stop making noise.Whats it with the cussing and everything.if you feel the tarvor is better,you drop reasons why.People that do not know about guns or think AK is better will research on it and see reasons not spamming the whole place with your "knowledge" 1 Like |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by nobosaba(m): 1:02pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
yusufu16: Bro, that DSS gun you see is call Tar 21 and it's an Israeli made weapon and that version is not that sophisticated |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by litaninja(m): 1:02pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Fire rate, range, reliability, ease of use, AVAILABILITY!!! Those are the reasons... 1 Like |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by PotatoSalad(m): 1:05pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
PUBG made me realize how guns work. |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Shookonekilla: 1:05pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
[s] udemzyudex:[/s] Don't talk nonsense What do you know about live fire or responding in live fire ? What do you know about sight recoil and free fire accuracy? Don't dare talk nonsense!!!! It's people like you who encourgage these corrupt politicians with your subtle ignorance and wide most stupidity Don't speak about that which you have no idea!!! Shut up!!! The politicians arm the military with AK47 and you are here telling me it's a good rifle ? What do you know ?? I would stake my life with a gs9 in my hand than an ak47 when facing an insurgent Stupid child You have the guts to sit in the comfort of your home and type rubbish because some are dying at the front line facing these terrorists with out dated equipment You sleep comfortably at night because some are awake You know nothing!!! Some are trained to die for you and you are here saying they are properly equipped . What do you know ?? Do you think everyone will live to a ripe old age out here Close your mouth 12 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by allexpensive: 1:06pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Shookonekilla: This is not true. Most of the AKs you see are the Chinese variant and there are several types depending on the upgrade. I fire the M762, AK-47 and the Tavor. Whenever I'm on missions far away from the FOB, I'll pick the M762 or AK. Whenever I'm on short duration ops like clearance and patrol, I'll pick the Tavor. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by darichlife: 1:07pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Okoyeebos: The Way Nigerians know about guns ehn. Fear � de catch nigga ooo. Make I start my own research and possibly buy one soon I no want story that digs the grave around me 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by FunkyAlhaji2015: 1:09pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
[quote author=yusufu16 post=73570091][/quote] The DSS doesn't use the AR - 15, they use the IMI Tavor Tar -21. An Isreali close combat weapon. |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by molon23(m): 1:09pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
The soldier guy in the fourth photo is dead and he was my very good friend. Never knew dead would take him soon. RIP Jerry yusufu16: |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Reference(m): 1:10pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
yusufu16: No sir. The Tavor is not considered a battlefield weapon in these parts in that it spots 5.56mm ammunition which has an average bullet weight of 4 grams and powder for a maximum effective range of 250 metres. Traditionally we prefer 7.62mm ammo which has a 9 gram jacket and has more powder to propel it to an effective kill at 400 metres. Every soldier I knew preferred to engage the enemy at a further distance and I can imagine if you are faced with a charging horde of militia men you want to start taking them down further out and especially out of PED range. Two. I cannot expect any serious infantry to use a lower calibre that the adversity it is fighting.and the AK appears the standard weapon for militia the world over. The 5.56mm ammo does have its advantage. It is lighter and so you can carry more and can be more effective for close combat. Lastly. And most important to any soldier is reliability. There is currently no rifle in the world that can match the AK for reliability. Even the Americans with more sophisticated AR's, Colts and Bushmasters will tell you when their special forces get into battle, they inevitable complete difficult missions with the AK and our armed forces donot have the same maintemace and replacement capabilities of those nations. The summary is: every mechamic, cook, cobbler, painter, sportsman or woman will most likely perform and succeed using the tools most familiar, reliable and comfortable dor them. I had only a brief stinct with the AK in my time and we used to call it a toy back then due to its light weight and melodic sound in rapid fire. We grew using the German H&K G3, before the Belgian FN and then our government went completely East bloc. In terms of personal infantry fire arms there is absolutely nothing wrong with our set up. What we need are the other elements that a fighting unit needs. Communication devices, battlefield analysis devices, command and control devices, updated heavy weaponry such as mortars, mines and HEAP artillery pieces and of course updated training. That's all. 24 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Sermwell(m): 1:11pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Shookonekilla:you have been fooling yourself here since without giving reasons why tavor is better than AK. this leaves me with no doubt that you don't have any knowledge about weapons. nonsense 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Tennyrank(m): 1:11pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
FarahAideed: It cannot be just for close quarter fire. Mind you those DSS guys equally use f2000, galil rifle and p90 depending on their operations. TAVOR Built around a long-stroke piston system (as found in the M1 Garand and AK-47), the Tavor is designed to maximize reliability, durability, simplicity of design, and ease of maintenance, particularly under adverse or battlefield conditions.[5] In 2009, the Tavor X95 (also known as the Micro Tavor or MTAR) was selected by the IDF to gradually replace the M16 assault rifle and M4 carbine variants as the standard-issued weapon of the Israeli infantry by the end of 2018. The first X95 bullpup rifles were issued to infantry units in 2013.[6] Both the IWI TAR-21 and IWI X95 are part of the Tavor family of rifles, along with the Tavor 7. With the numbers of fights Israel Defence engage in year in year out you will only ask yourself how they could function so well if the rifle is solely for close range. With Israel planning to make it the only infantry weapon by end of this year. .check am nah. Interestingly, the Nigeria navy now use Favor. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by allexpensive: 1:11pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Shookonekilla: The military is being overhauled sir. Infact the AK is in limited use here in the northeast. The north east is populated with Tavor, AR-M1 and M762. The ak47 Is in limited use. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by UnimkeAk(m): 1:13pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Fynline:Control shift Or Alt shift Ignorant mfers |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by IamPlato(m): 1:14pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
nobosaba: FunkyAlhaji2015: FarahAideed: nineone: FarahAideed:have You Guys Seen My Story? it Also Has To Do With Nigerian Soldiers with Ak47 And Terrorists with Advanced Weapons. check my signature |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by QDubz(m): 1:15pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
[quote author=Shookonekilla post=73572317][s][/s] Don't talk nonsense What do you know about live fire or responding in live fire ? What do you know about sight recoil and free fire accuracy? Don't dare talk nonsense!!!! It's people like you who encourgage these corrupt politicians with your subtle ignorance and wide most stupidity Don't speak about that which you have no idea!!! Shut up!!! The politicians arm the military with AK47 and you are here telling me it's a good rifle ? What do you know ?? I would stake my life with a gs9 in my hand than an ak47 when facing an insurgent Stupid child You have the guts to sit in the comfort of your home and type rubbish because some are dying at the front line facing these terrorists with out dated equipment You sleep comfortably at night because some are awake You know nothing!!! Some are trained to die for you and you are here saying they are properly equipped . What do you know ?? Do you think everyone will live Do you serve in Nigerian army?. |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 1:15pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
IamaNigerianGuy:all those things you mention for there na community crisis except vietnam war and if you check the statistics of vietnam war the m16 did more damage than ak47 |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Newboss(m): 1:15pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
FarahAideed:You might need to do a proper research |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by chuckjonesbaba(m): 1:16pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
yusufu16: I have wondered about this for a while. |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Jdesilentkiller(m): 1:16pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Lol... So much ignorance in one thread... Well, what do I know?? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Adiwana: 1:18pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
For some that do not know how guns work.There are basically long and short range guns and the effectiveness of guns is not just based on assault.The ability to do damage and accuracy are the 2 major factors that are considered so far as guns are concerned especially for battle.The double barrel is a short range gun that causes a whole lot of damage but can't hit a target at a long range.The major problem of military guns(Ak 47) is not just shooting targets at long range but ineffectiveness in killing the targets and thats why it seems Boko are winning.Some say Boko has modern equipments than the military due to the guns they have are more accurate than the AK which the military uses.Its just like shooting more shots than your opponent in football but your opponents has lesser shots and more goals than you.You will not win by Shooting more bullets but the ability to kill your enemy is what wins wars.AK is an "outdated" weapon mainly due to its inaccuracy and there are better guns with effective accuracies than it but make no mistake it's a full assault weapon that still does a whole lot of damage and still used all over the world 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 1:18pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
akereconfi: its a known fact that aks are more rugged....they dont easily jam.... |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by FRESHG(m): 1:19pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
madridguy:MADRIDGAY WHAT SAYET THOU |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by slysteel: 1:20pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Poster is suffering from ignorance,obviously another nairaland teeanger |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Sunymoore(m): 1:20pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
oluwaahmed:M16 or M4 you mean? |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by FunkyAlhaji2015: 1:20pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
IamPlato: It costs the US govt about 15 million naira equivalent to fully kit one soldier. Can our govt afford that? 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Pharaoh9(m): 1:23pm On Dec 05, 2018 |
Fynline: how are you sure those soldiers are Nigerians and not of United Nation |
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