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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:25pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by kaimeraone: 12:25pm On Dec 05, 2018
If you ever played counter strike or call of duty........AK47 is a more deadly weapon. I bet same principle applies in real life.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:25pm On Dec 05, 2018
Ak 47 packs more punch than the Tavor..

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Adiwana: 12:25pm On Dec 05, 2018
Ak-47 is an assault riffle with ability to hit a target at long range.It can shoot in water,mud etc without jamming.The major disadvantage of the gun is its accuracy.Imagine emptying almost a whole chamber without effectively hitting intended targets.The question should be why are Ak-47 of the military not properly equipped with scopes,lazers etc

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Shookonekilla: 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
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FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
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You are a very ignorant liar and uninformed and a bloody civilian who has never handled a combat rifle

What is the name of the rifle the dss carry ?

What is the recoil bias at full burst and semi auto

What is the round per minute ?

What is the armour penetration versus yard ratio ?

What is the angle deflection at full auto from Target at 200 yards ?

You are just an ignorant enthusiastic uninformed dummy who doesn't know what he is talking about

That rifle is a hundred times better than the ak47

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by LZAA: 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
Was about to tell the op d same tin
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Shookonekilla: 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
bantudra:


ak47 does work under water...i saw the video test....

Please close your mouth

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by ojun50(m): 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:


The Ak 47 is a a full field assault rifles while those other are rifles we call carbine with shorter barrel and shorter killing range but used for close quarter fire fights like the type the DSS is likely to encounter in close quarter body guard duties ..
ok
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by DaV8King(m): 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
yusufu16:
I think AK 47 is an outdated riffle. Anytime I see DSS officer, my heart just melt.

Why cant our military officers have those modern rifles used by US marines to fight Boko Haram.

Below is what our DSS use.


Bro, the Tavor as pictured is more effective for Close Quarters Battle (CQB) operations versus the Kalashnikov.

The AK-47 is an assault rifle(a combination of CQB and battle rifle) and each get their use.

The Tavor is good for close protection as illustrated in your pics while the AK-47 is better suited to the war-front (easy to use, clean, maintain, scavenges ammo from other 7.62mm weapons etc)

Plus, an AK's bullet is bigger (7.62 x 51) and does more damage than a Tavor round(5.56)
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by lexy2014: 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
Fynline:


Primarily base protection
Which base are they protecting?
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Tobyarab(m): 12:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
But the US Army don't carry AK47.abeg, tell us what makes sense.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by spiritedtete: 12:27pm On Dec 05, 2018
And there goes... A dumb moderator .. pushing a dumb question to the public.

Next time make a proper reaserch on the two guns

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Shookonekilla: 12:27pm On Dec 05, 2018
It's so aggravating to see people with no combat or armed weapon experience talking rubbish as if they even know what they are typing

That rifle is millions of times better than the ak47

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by henryobinna(m): 12:28pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:


An AR15 is a full rifle and not a carbine ..know the difference
the dude doesn't know anything about guns, even the pictures he posted earlier are not AR15 but he's bringing AR15 to comparison... People out of ignorance just jump into conclusion especially in matters that's far above their understand, knowledge ans even experience. By the way the AK 47 can be termed more deadly than those the dss are carrying, AK47 a gun that doesn't jam when firing, it won't disappoint you while in battle every ready servant to the force men.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:28pm On Dec 05, 2018
Shookonekilla:
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You are a very ignorant liar and uninformed and a bloody civilian who has never handled a combat rifle

What is the name of the rifle the dss carry ?

What is the recoil bias at full burst and semi auto

What is the round per minute ?

What is the armour penetration versus yard ratio ?

What is the angle deflection at full auto from Target at 200 yards ?

You are just an ignorant enthusiastic uninformed dummy who doesn't know what he is talking about

That rifle is a hundred times better than the ak47

why are you so worked up...both kill....sooo,whats the difference....??

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by tintingz(m): 12:29pm On Dec 05, 2018
SmartMindsFx:
What the DSS are using is for short range while that of our soldiers are for long ranges.
Though what the USA military use look similar but they are more sophisticated compared to that of the DSS.

The truth is that embezzlement/corruption is what is killing our soldiers not bokoharam.

Don't forget the security budget of USA is more than 3-5 African countries combines (my opinion though)...
well said

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by RevenGeMission: 12:29pm On Dec 05, 2018
Barondenigeria:
Because the DSS protect politicians from attacks while Nigerian army protect ordinary Nigerians from terrorists.
The life of a politician is worth more than a hundred ordinary Nigerians.
Welcome to Nigeria!


Doubt you used your sense while typing this, Square peg in square hole is the answer. AK is for warfare / long range firegights

DSS rifle is for close combat / protection duties


Giving DSS rifle to soldiers is a stupid decision


Seek knowledge where you lack it not write nonsense because you just want to write

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:29pm On Dec 05, 2018
spiritedtete:
And there goes... A dumb moderator .. pushing a dumb question to the public.

didnt you saw how many people are viewing below....??
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Shookonekilla: 12:29pm On Dec 05, 2018
lexy2014:


Am sure u would have been able to make ur point without all this foul language. No one has a monopoly of knowledge & that includes u. Respect 4d opinion of others is important

What is the full burst deflection ration of that rifle the dss carry ?

What is the rpm at full burst and semi ?

What is Caliber of ammunition does it fire ?

How can you compare the ak47 to this combat rifle ?

Only a stupid person does that

Only in Nigeria do you see people with zero combat experience who have no knowledge of weapons talking like I am seeing here

This is so aggravating

What rubbish are you all saying ?

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:30pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
The us soldiers are not using ak47.Can you shed more light on that?
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by ADMAF(m): 12:31pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
grin grin U're just savage. TBH, I had same opinion as OP cos looking at both guns, the one used by the DSS looks a lot more intimidating.... or Izit my eyes?

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Adiwana: 12:31pm On Dec 05, 2018
oluwaahmed:
The isreali Trevor (which DSS uses)is used for close quarter/urban combat operations. That does not mean it cant be used for conventional warfare with modification. N/B -NAF Specops use dis weapons too. However AK is rugged and does not jam even under water. AK hits its target faster and fires round quicker. However the AR15 is their king. Enhanced with scope for long range targets and sometimes with a grenade launcher its the ultimate death machine.
The AR 15 with grenade launcher is the standard primary weapon for US Marine Corp and USASF

AK also has attachments like scopes and grenade launchers too like the AR just that the AR beats it in terms of accuracy which the Ak heavily lacks

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by kingharzy: 12:31pm On Dec 05, 2018
peeps4u:


Open your mind to knowledge, knowledge comes from many ways.

This thread alone has in one way or the other educated one in the knowledge of firearms.
undecided

I pray your quest for knowledge leads you to that part of our constitution that spells out everything regarding firearms.
You can take this as both an advice and the riots act. . . . I OUT
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by QDubz(m): 12:32pm On Dec 05, 2018
greenprince:


Damn! You ooze experience.

Lol, like there say the more sweat you shed in training, the lesser you bleed in the battlefield.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Shookonekilla: 12:32pm On Dec 05, 2018
bantudra:


why are you so worked up...both kill....sooo,whats the difference....??

Please next time if you do not know anything shut up

There is a reasons military around the world have ditched the ak47

To see stupid people here comparing it to the rc44 and the likes is annoying

Please this thread should be closed

The Nigeria military is given outdated weapons due to corrupt politicians and I see stupid people here trying g to justify the ak47?

When even the terrorists are using ar45

Nigeria is a waste

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by spiritedtete: 12:32pm On Dec 05, 2018
bantudra:


didnt you saw how many people are viewing below....??

The question should have been is the DSS more equip than the Army ?

Not.. an AK-47 and tavor.. they are not mate.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:33pm On Dec 05, 2018
and who even cares....??...nigeria is producing this ak47s...thats what is important....
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:34pm On Dec 05, 2018
Tobyarab:
But the US Army don't carry AK47.abeg, tell us what makes sense.


One of the reasons why the vietnames war was lost by the American backed southern Vietnam was because of the use of AK47 by the Russian backed northern Vietnam. It's a very rugged assault rifle, can be use in almost every terrain, way more durable than most other rifles and very very good in wars.

Ask yourself why the AK47 is the most popular rifle on earth today.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:34pm On Dec 05, 2018
spiritedtete:


The question should have been is the DSS more equip than the Army ?

Not.. an AK-47 and tavor.. they are not mate.

who cares...both kill...sooo,what....??
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by tegafej(m): 12:35pm On Dec 05, 2018
Okoyeebos:


The AK 47 commonly seen around fires 600 rounds per minute. Original one does 700.

Tavor does 750 to 900 rounds per minute but it's for close encounters and is not as rugged as the AK.

Before your Tavor rounds can reach a target, the AK has already dropped its target.

The best and most complete AKs in Nigeria are with policemen in the SPU. They are the policemen in blue caps and guard VIPs

That's serious.

But derailing, US SEALS don't use AKs... So there are better guns at warfare than AKs

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by DaV8King(m): 12:35pm On Dec 05, 2018
Fynline:
Not all use AK 4. There is a shift already from AK47.

An AFSF unit.............another set of Nigerian military users who need precision and silence to work.

Which the Tavor does better than the AK-47

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by stagger: 12:35pm On Dec 05, 2018
Adaptability.

Most terrorist groups use the Ak-47. So as a soldier carrying an AK-47, you will not be short of options if you run out of ammo on the field. If you neutralized a company of enemy combatants, you can easily mop up all their AK-47 magazines and re-issue them immediately to your troops.

The M-16 used by US forces has a serious jamming problem which can be caused by things like sand. You have no such issues with the AK-47.

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