Donelli:

See banom's post I quoted before this comment you made. It will give you an idea of how this kind of episode played out in the past with Ojukwu which many are suggesting we follow same path again.

Oh, it just sounded like you did a whole ton of extra research about it and am someone that always want to learn.

even without research it is staring at us right in the face, Ojukwu tried it, uwazuruike also tried it, they succumbed to the pressure of the false idea about politics being the only way to achieve Biafra, anyone who thinks this in this country is blind.

thank God Nnamdi Kanu has learnt from history ... always, and he has found to never have anything to do with Nigerian politics.

Donelli:

See banom's post I quoted before this comment you made. It will give you an idea of how this kind of episode played out in the past with Ojukwu which many are suggesting we follow same path again.

Wrong analogy. Ojukwu did not campaign with Biafra as a campaign agenda, he campaigned under NPN for one Nigeria. Ojukwu 's biafra campaign stopped with the civil war.
Kanu on the other hand is agitating for secession, so if the secession agenda is popular among the south east, why won't he or his party win elections?

melodyogonna:

Oh, it just sounded like you did a whole ton of extra research about it and am someone that always want to learn.

even without research it is staring at us right in the face, Ojukwu tried it, uwazuruike also tried it, they succumbed to the pressure of the false idea about politics being the only way to achieve Biafra, anyone who thinks this in this country is blind.

thank God Nnamdi Kanu has learnt from history ... always, and he has found to never have anything to do with Nigerian politics.

As I noted neither Ojukwu nor Uwazurike made the restoration of biafra a campaign agenda. Uwazuruike just like Kanu used media campaign and protests as a tool for achieving biafra and not a political manifesto.

banom:


We are asking for a referendum to be conducted in all south east states and all south south states minus Edo state. And of course if during the referendum majority votes in favour of staying in Nigeria we will stay put in Nigeria and that will permanently bury the issue of BIAFRA.

The bolded statement is seen as an insult to the people of the South south states. Who are the we that is asking for the referendum to be conducted in all south south states? I hope it is not one igbo man sitting in enugu, aba or umuahia. No south south man would tolerate an igbo man demanding for a referendum from him or his tribe.

wirinet:

As I noted neither Ojukwu nor Uwazurike made the restoration of biafra a campaign agenda. Uwazuruike just like Kanu used media campaign and protests as a tool for achieving biafra and not a political manifesto.

but they later deviated to politics just as you are advising Nnamdi Kanu to, don't worry, everything IPOB is doing is based on a roadmap, and we are more organized than you think.

Nnamdi Kanu is not the person that makes all the decisions.

wirinet:


The bolded statement is seen as an insult to the people of the South south states. Who are the we that is asking for the referendum to be conducted in all south south states? I hope it is not one igbo man sitting in enugu, aba or umuahia. No south south man would tolerate an igbo man demanding for a referendum from him or his tribe.

what about Igbos in south south?

melodyogonna:

but they later deviated to politics just as you are advising Nnamdi Kanu to, don't worry, everything IPOB is doing is based on a roadmap, and we are more organized than you think.

Nnamdi Kanu is not the person that makes all the decisions.

What do you mean by "deviated to politics"? Politics is soliciting for power to advance an agenda or manifesto, what agenda did Ojukwu advance in 1983? So you expect igbo to vote for Ojukwu simply because he led the biafran war?
The organization of IPOB is yet to be seen. The only strategy I see so far is insulting Yoruba, Fulani, Buhari and Nigeria, and issuing threats up and down. The main strategy I see is provoking the FG to kill ordinary citizens on the streets and then using that to elicit sympathy from foreign countries particularly the US and Israel, hoping they would come to your aid militarily or at least diplomatically.

If Kanu is not the one making all the decision, then who else can question kanu in IPOB? I thought his title is supreme leader . Don't you know what that means?
Does IPOB have a constitution that spells out its leadership structure?

melodyogonna:

what about Igbos in south south?

Then you should have specified "igbos in the south south" instead of saying all of the South south minus edo.

wirinet:

Then you should have specified "igbos in the south south" instead of saying all of the South south minus edo.

Am supposed you understand what a referendum is?

melodyogonna:

Oh, it just sounded like you did a whole ton of extra research about it and am someone that always want to learn.

even without research it is staring at us right in the face, Ojukwu tried it, uwazuruike also tried it, they succumbed to the pressure of the false idea about politics being the only way to achieve Biafra, anyone who thinks this in this country is blind.

thank God Nnamdi Kanu has learnt from history ... always, and he has found to never have anything to do with Nigerian politics.

There are only 2 ways to achieve Biafra:
1) through a painstaking political process involving grassroots mobilization, election of politicians that sympathize with the cause, and hard, assiduous lobbying from those elected officials to get a referendum. That is how it is done in the civilized world. It takes political organization, persuasive mobilization, and a lot of patience, but that is the only civilized way to do it. Many Scottish politicians have lobbied hard for a Scottish independence referendum for decades, before they finally got to vote on it. Same with Quebec in Canada. Those of you that think all you have to do is demand a referendum (from a bunch of youths who don't speak for anyone but themselves) and get it are delusional dreamers. No country in the world surrenders its territorial sovereignty so easily and it's up to you to persuade and cajole and lobby. Else, we go to the number 2 way.....

2) by going to war and towing the path of former Yugoslavia or Sudan or Ethiopia/Eritrea.

Anything other than the above is useless noisemaking and that is the path that IPOB have chosen: to simply be nuisances who spend all their time with incendiary hate speech shouting ""zoo this....", "zoo that....".

Nnamdi Kanu is a mentally ill mooron and people who take him seriously need help.

wirinet:

Then you should have specified "igbos in the south south" instead of saying all of the South south minus edo.

Am not the one that made the statement but am pretty sure that person specified Igbos as you scroll down the page, or is it another page.

wirinet:
Wrong analogy. Ojukwu did not campaign with Biafra as a campaign agenda, he campaigned under NPN for one Nigeria. Ojukwu 's biafra campaign stopped with the civil war.
Kanu on the other hand is agitating for secession, so if the secession agenda is popular among the south east, why won't he or his party win elections?

Let's look at the bolded in your comment and then see how an excerpt from the comment below answers your question.

Obi1kenobi:
through a painstaking political process involving grassroots mobilization, election of politicians that sympathize with the cause, and hard, assiduous lobbying from those elected officials to get a referendum...

I agree that this is a method, but my questions..

1.On what basis will politicians from other regions (especially the north) be lobbied to support Biafra knowing fully well that they have some parasitic interests to defend?

2. Those countries you mentioned, do they practise our style of politics where lobbying has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with ideology and presenting a superior argument but strictly a matter of money changing hands.

3. Going by your suggestion, do you think referendum will happen in another 30 years?

In my opinion, this talk about following a political process is a ready trap that the Nigerian government will always try to use to defeat the Biafran ideology. Good thing Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB has not fallen for it. As for whether this our method will be fruitful, make we dey watch first kwanu.

Ndewo!

Warship:

I won't indulge you in an argument.

Because u really can't

Obi1kenobi:


There are only 2 ways to achieve Biafra:
1) through a painstaking political process involving grassroots mobilization, election of politicians that sympathize with the cause, and hard, assiduous lobbying from those elected officials to get a referendum. That is how it is done in the civilized world. It takes political organization, persuasive mobilization, and a lot of patience, but that is the only civilized way to do it. Many Scottish politicians have lobbied hard for a Scottish independence referendum for decades, before they finally got to vote on it. Same with Quebec in Canada. Those of you that think all you have to do is demand a referendum (from a bunch of youths who don't speak for anyone but themselves) and get it are delusional dreamers. No country in the world surrenders its territorial sovereignty so easily and it's up to you to persuade and cajole and lobby. Else, we go to the number 2 way.....

2) by going to war and towing the path of former Yugoslavia or Sudan or Ethiopia/Eritrea.

Anything other than the above is useless noisemaking and that is the path that IPOB have chosen: to simply be nuisances who spend all their time with incendiary hate speech shouting ""zoo this....", "zoo that....".

Nnamdi Kanu is a mentally ill mooron and people who take him seriously need help.

I had wanted to come hard on you to debate the practicality of these points and suggestions you made above but I realised there is no more need doing so as you have already scored an own goal above when you acknowledged where your idea will work is in a civilised society. That is the problem here : Nigeria is not only an uncivilised nation but a barbaric backward thinking one. With people whose reasoning is on per ( or less) basis with animals, and functions anti-clock wise. A place you will be kind if you call her animal kingdom. A joke of a nation.

Such civilised manner of agitation will not work with them. The only type that works is the type IPOB is using now and you can see it's yielding results already.

Donelli:


I agree that this is a method, but my questions..

1.On what basis will politicians from other regions (especially the north) be lobbied to support Biafra knowing fully well that they have some parasitic interests to defend?

On the basis that they are thinking human beings, open to persuasion. The North's only "parasitic interests" is Niger Delta oil. Believe it or not, the SE really isn't that strategically relevant to Nigeria. It's the least endowed with natural resources and minerals. It's the tiniest region by landmass by far. It's landlocked and is the only region with no international borders. We're frankly not that relevant to the interests of the North.

2. Those countries you mentioned, do they practise our style of politics where lobbying has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with ideology and presenting a superior argument but strictly a matter of money changing hands.

Money didn't need to change hands for the NE legislators to successfully lobby for a North East Development Commission with tens of billions of Naira in extra funding years after they destroyed their own zone with Islamic extremism. If you cannot get your elites to champion the cause of the grassroots, then you're frankly not worth listening to. It is up to us to compel our politicians to fight for the cause. Not making empty noise on Facebook. Again, even the civilized countries in question didn't grant referendums just because some agitators demanded it. It took decades of painstaking, patient work to successfully lobby for it, because no country wants to weaken its unity and territorial integrity. If Ipob agitators are too lazy to do their homework and do what it takes, then they can't be taken seriously. Successful agitation and activism is more than just shouting "zoo" upandan and insulting other Nigerians. This is why I have kept saying Ipob is not a serious intellectual movement and it just became an unserious cult of Nnamdi Kanu.

3. Going by your suggestion, do you think referendum will happen in another 30 years?

In my opinion, this talk about following a political process is a ready trap that the Nigerian government will always try to use to defeat the Biafran ideology. Good thing Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB has not fallen for it. As for whether this our method will be fruitful, make we dey watch first kwanu.

Ndewo!

Maybe. Maybe not. It's up to us to try. Two things are for sure:
1) The democratic process is the only way to accomplish it. Failing this, war is the only other option and I can assure you its easy to make noise about war on Facebook or Nairaland, but a much different prospect in the real world.
2) Nothing will certainly be achieved by election boycotts. It simply makes zero sense. I have asked several advocates of this what exactly they intend to accomplish and how it will be accomplished and the next line of action when the election boycotts continue to fail and I have never gotten any sensible answer. It's like going on hunger strike when those you are striking against couldn't care less if you drop dead or not. Take the Presidential election, for example: why the hell would Buhari give the slightest fuckks whether Igbo people vote or not? What will it take away from him? On the contrary, he knows Igbos despise him and wouldn't even want them to vote. Why would he care whether Igbos vote or not? What will your election boycott achieve. Name one thing.

Obi1kenobi:


On the basis that they are thinking human beings, open to persuasion. The North's only "parasitic interests" is Niger Delta oil. Believe it or not, the SE really isn't that strategically relevant to Nigeria. It's the least endowed with natural resources and minerals. It's the tiniest region by landmass by far. It's landlocked and is the only region with no international borders. We're frankly not that relevant to the interests of the North.



Money didn't need to change hands for the NE legislators to successfully lobby for a North East Development Commission with tens of billions of Naira in extra funding years after they destroyed their own zone with Islamic extremism. If you cannot get your elites to champion the cause of the grassroots, then you're frankly not worth listening to. It is up to us to compel our politicians to fight for the cause. Not making empty noise on Facebook. Again, even the civilized countries in question didn't grant referendums just because some agitators demanded it. It took decades of painstaking, patient work to successfully lobby for it, because no country wants to weaken its unity and territorial integrity. If Ipob agitators are too lazy to do their homework and do what it takes, then they can't be taken seriously. Successful agitation and activism is more than just shouting "zoo" upandan and insulting other Nigerians. This is why I have kept saying Ipob is not a serious intellectual movement and it just became an unserious cult of Nnamdi Kanu.



Maybe. Maybe not. It's up to us to try. Two things are for sure:
1) The democratic process is the only way to accomplish it. Failing this, war is the only other option and I can assure you its easy to make noise about war on Facebook or Nairaland, but a much different prospect in the real world.
2) Nothing will certainly be achieved by election boycotts. It simply makes zero sense. I have asked several advocates of this what exactly they intend to accomplish and how it will be accomplished and the next line of action when the election boycotts continue to fail and I have never gotten any sensible answer. It's like going on hunger strike when those you are striking against couldn't care less if you drop dead or not. Take the Presidential election, for example: why the hell would Buhari give the slightest fuckks whether Igbo people vote or not? What will it take away from him? On the contrary, he knows Igbos despise him and wouldn't even want them to vote. Why would he care whether Igbos vote or not? What will your election boycott achieve. Name one thing.

Are you saying you are not imagining the out come of the fact that an entire section of a country wilfully refuses to participate in an election?

banom:


Are you saying you are not imagining the out come of the fact that an entire section of a country wilfully refuses to participate in an election?

Which entire section of the country refuses to participate in an election? Are you saying politicians from any section of Nigeria have indicated that they would not participate in the forthcoming elections? Are you insinuating that a section of the country would not field governorship, legislative, local government or even presidential candidates? Are you saying no one voter would vote for his or her preferred candidates in any section of Nigeria?
If one individual, family, group or association from any section of Nigeria threaten not to vote, how does that translate to entire section of the country?

banom:


I had wanted to come hard on you to debate the practicality of these points and suggestions you made above but I realised there is no more need doing so as you have already scored an own goal above when you acknowledged where your idea will work is in a civilised society. That is the problem here : Nigeria is not only an uncivilised nation but a barbaric backward thinking one. With people whose reasoning is on per ( or less) basis with animals, and functions anti-clock wise. A place you will be kind if you call her animal kingdom. A joke of a nation.

Such civilised manner of agitation will not work with them. The only type that works is the type IPOB is using now and you can see it's yielding results already.

If as you said, Nigeria is an uncivilised nation and a barbaric backward thinking one, that political solution cannot work, how will IPOB 's method, which involves protests, social media campaigns, antagonising the FG and other major tribes and election boycott work?

All agitations are eventually settled through politics. Even after a war, politics still take over.

Donelli:

Let's look at the bolded in your comment and then see how an excerpt from the comment below answers your question.


I agree that this is a method, but my questions..

1.On what basis will politicians from other regions (especially the north) be lobbied to support Biafra knowing fully well that they have some parasitic interests to defend?

On the Basis of popular support from their people on the biafra issue and on issues of common purpose. If all the igbo politicians and igbo business elites and masses advocate for Biafra, Northern politicians would be forced to listen.

Ever other region has some parasitic interests in Nigeria outside the Niger Delta or south south, so it's the south south that holds the ace for obvious reasons.
The igbos need the support of the South South to get any traction on their Biafra agitations, but instead of courting the south south, the igbos are arrogantly trying to force their Biafra agitations on the south south.
If the igbos can get the south south to agitate for Biafra, the North would be forced to listen.

2. Those countries you mentioned, do they practise our style of politics where lobbying has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with ideology and presenting a superior argument but strictly a matter of money changing hands.

Politics is politics anywhere in the world. You negotiate based on your advantages and weaknesses. You give and take. It is not easy, but it is more effective than the alternative - war.
Niger Delta was able to agitate for an increase in derivativation, from 0% in 1999 to 13% presently, the goal is between 25 - 30%.

The Yorubas were able to negotiate with the north for the presidency after their tribesman was denied same in 1993.
The Ogonis are still agitating for clean up of their environment and reparations for decades, they have even won numerous court judgements against shell both locally and internationally. The FG has even claimed to have started the clean up after an elaborate launching. Even though the FG and Shell are still playing games, eventually, they would be forced to accede to the agitations of the Ogonis.

3. Going by your suggestion, do you think referendum will happen in another 30 years?

It might take 300 years. Catanonia has been fighting for a referendum for centuries. Scotland fought for independence for centuries and it took centuries before they were granted referendum, even though referendum was inserted into their constitution.

The problem of African is wanting everything instanta, separation is a slow, arduous and painful process, even under normal circumstances (look at Brexit ), it is infinitely harder under crisis conditions.

In my opinion, this talk about following a political process is a ready trap that the Nigerian government will always try to use to defeat the Biafran ideology. Good thing Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB has not fallen for it. As for whether this our method will be fruitful, make we dey watch first kwanu.

Ndewo!

You have not provided your opinion the alternative to the political process. Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to continue to disturb the peace of the South East? Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to put the lives of ordinary south east citizens who are not members of IPOB at risk?
Do you advocate Kanu insulting and threatening ordinary Fulani citizens and calling them all sorts of names, thereby putting the lives and businesses of ordinary igbo people in the north at risk?

banom:

Am supposed you understand what a referendum is?

Please explain what a referendum is and how it involves all of the South south minus edo.

wirinet:

On the Basis of popular support from their people on the issue and on the issue of common purpose. If all the igbo politicians and igbo business elites and masses advocate for Biafra, Northern politicians would be forced to listen.

Ever other region has some parasitic interests in Nigeria outside the Niger Delta or south south, so it's the south south that holds the ace for obvious reasons.
The igbos need the support of the South South to get any traction on their Biafra agitations, but instead of courting the south south, the igbos are arrogantly trying to force their Biafra agitations on the south south.
If the igbos can get the south south to agitate for Biafra, the North would be forced to listen.


Politics is politics anywhere in the world. You negotiate based on your advantages and weaknesses. You give and take. It is not easy, but it is more effective than the alternative - war.
Niger Delta was able to agitate for an increase in derivativation, from 0% in 1999 to 13% presently, the goal is between 25 - 30%.

The Yorubas were able to negotiate with the north for the presidency after their tribesman was denied same in 1993.
The Ogonis are still agitating for clean up of their environment and reparations for decades, they have even won numerous court judgements against shell both locally and internationally. The FG has even claimed to have started the clean up after an elaborate launching. Even though the FG and Shell are still playing games, eventually, they would be forced to accede to the agitations of the Ogonis.

It might take 300 years. Catanonia has been fighting for a referendum for centuries. Scotland fought for independence for centuries and it took centuries before they were granted referendum, even though referendum was inserted into their constitution.

The problem of African is wanting everything instanta, separation is a slow, arduous and painful process, even under normal circumstances (look at Brexit ), it is infinitely harder under crisis conditions.



You have not provided your opinion the alternative to the political process. Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to continue to disturb the peace of the South East? Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to put the lives of ordinary south east citizens who are not members of IPOB at risk?
Do you advocate Kanu insulting and threatening ordinary Fulani citizens and calling them all sorts of names, thereby putting the lives and businesses of ordinary igbo people in the north at risk?

Point of correction oga, kanu has not and is not putting the life of any south easterner in danger. It's your barbaric federal government that is killing innocent citizens for demanding for a referendum. And here you are trying to change the narrative by putting the blame on Kanu who is only demanding for the freedom of his people. You see why I earlier said the reasoning of an average Nigerian works anti-clock wise. Tufiakwa unu.

artofseduction:
How many of these people enjoined the followership IPOB IS enjoying now.
APGA was never formed as a separatist party.All KANU needed to do was to use a decoy nd register a party or go into agreement with one of these micro party.I will ask u again, how those boycotting AN elections make FG give u referendum?
Where has it ever worked?

pls try google these topics and see things for yourself
'civil disobedience'
'election boycott'
'consent of the governed' etc
yes there has been many cases where civil disobedience did a good job in many countries it depends on what was the purpose of the boycott in the first place. people do boycott for many different reasons and most always work. what is a boycott? it simply mean abstain from vote. since you got your first voters card did you attend all election ? that was a boycott you did. and to answer you it worked in rhodesia. when all major opp parties used it for separation of the country. pls check google

banom:


Point of correction oga, kanu has not and is not putting the life of any south easterner in danger. It's your barbaric federal government that is killing innocent citizens for demanding for a referendum. And here you are trying to change the narrative by putting the blame on Kanu who is only demanding for the freedom of his people. You see why I earlier said the reasoning of an average Nigerian works anti-clock wise. Tufiakwa unu.

Kanu does not have the authority to demand for a referendum, he has no authority whatsoever. At best he is an advocate giving his and his group's personal opinion. The people with the authority to demand for a referendum are elected officials (official representatives) of the igbo people, especially state's and federal legislators.
You are vacillating in your argument, you first said the Nigerian government is barbaric and uncivilised, and you now expect such barbaric and uncivilised governments to act civilised when challenged by Kanu.

artofseduction:
how those boycotting AN elections make FG give u referendum?Where has it ever worked?

the way you guys try to demonise kanu/ipob over this issue is terrible. there is no election anywhere in the world where there is no boycott. let me tell you if 1million people register as eligible voters and 900,000 people show up on election day to cast thier vote the rest 100,000 did a boycott period. now let me drive home my point. in 2015 i served as ad hoc staff in bayelsa. at a place called down yenagoa. the locals beat up a phcn official over light bills as a result they cut power. on election day the people said they will not vote except power was restored. in few hours power was back. thats a boycott threat.
when chris ngige contested his last elections in an against peter obi there was a re-run in ngige idemili strong hold the then jega led inec fixed it on a sunday. ngige refused to partake in it saying its against his faith to vote on a sunday, thats a boycott

kanubiafra:
pls try google these topics and see things for yourself
'civil disobedience'
'election boycott'
'consent of the governed' etc
yes there has been many cases where civil disobedience did a good job in many countries it depends on what was the purpose of the boycott in the first place. people do boycott for many different reasons and most always work. what is a boycott? it simply mean abstain from vote. since you got your first voters card did you attend all election ? that was a boycott you did. and to answer you it worked in rhodesia. when all major opp parties used it for separation of the country. pls check google

The bolded said all major political parties. Now tell me the major party or even minor one that wants to boycott elections.

wirinet:


The bolded said all major political parties. Now tell me the major party or even minor one that wants to boycott elections.

so if major parties don't its now a crime? i doubt if you google those topics, cos if you did a line in that wiki page says that a tribe, region or ethnic group can boycott an election and it goes on to say that that boycott gives them the right to fight the government with guerilla warfare cos the government has no legitimacy over them or thier area. and they can still go full warfare using the montevideo convention resolution. no self defence. this are areas i want ipob to focus on in kanu's broadcasts

kanubiafra:
the way you guys try to demonise kanu/ipob over this issue is terrible. there is no election anywhere in the world where there is no boycott. let me tell you if 1million people register as eligible voters and 900,000 people show up on election day to cast thier vote the rest 100,000 did a boycott period. now let me drive home my point. in 2015 i served as ad hoc staff in bayelsa. at a place called down yenagoa. the locals beat up a phcn official over light bills as a result they cut power. on election day the people said they will not vote except power was restored. in few hours power was back. thats a boycott threat.
when chris ngige contested his last elections in an against peter obi there was a re-run in ngige idemili strong hold the then jega led inec fixed it on a sunday. ngige refused to partake in it saying its against his faith to vote on a sunday, thats a boycott

U just give examples.

Bayelsa boycotting worked because the governor needs their vote.

Ngige boycotted an Election did it stop Obi from winning?

MOREOVER:

When I meant boycotting and where has it worked.

I meant where has boycotting an election pressured govt to give referendum to a separatist group?

Involving themselves in politics has been working and it's still working.

Did Catalonia, N.Ireland , Scotland or British got referendum by boycotting an election?

My question still remain.

How will FG give you referendum because you boycotted an Election?

Even if the whole of SE does that it won't still give IPOB referendum.

They will just move in military and take over the government.

If you people has d fire power to face Nigerian military that should b a gud start.

Else, better look for ur PVC and go and vote for someone who will even listen to u at all.

kanubiafra:
so if major parties don't its now a crime? i doubt if you google those topics, cos if you did a line in that wiki page says that a tribe, region or ethnic group can boycott an election and it goes on to say that that boycott gives them the right to fight the government with guerilla warfare cos the government has no legitimacy over them or thier area. and they can still go full warfare using the montevideo convention resolution. no self defence. this are areas i want ipob to focus on in kanu's broadcasts

So the whole plan of boycotting an election is to start a guerrilla warfare with FG?
Or full warfare using Montevideo convention?

kanubiafra:
pls try google these topics and see things for yourself
'civil disobedience'
'election boycott'
'consent of the governed' etc
yes there has been many cases where civil disobedience did a good job in many countries it depends on what was the purpose of the boycott in the first place. people do boycott for many different reasons and most always work. what is a boycott? it simply mean abstain from vote. since you got your first voters card did you attend all election ? that was a boycott you did. and to answer you it worked in rhodesia. when all major opp parties used it for separation of the country. pls check google

Major OPPOSITION parties.

You don't even have one.

Sw, se, ss and cs should join IPOB to boycott 2019 Elections if the 36 States are not made fully autonomous before Jan. 2019, ending.

artofseduction:


U just give examples.

Bayelsa boycotting worked because the governor needs their vote.

Ngige boycotted an Election did it stop Obi from winning?

MOREOVER:

When I meant boycotting and where has it worked.

I meant where has boycotting an election pressured govt to give referendum to a separatist group?

Involving themselves in politics has been working and it's still working.

Did Catalonia, N.Ireland , Scotland or British got referendum by boycotting an election?

My question still remain.

How will FG give you referendum because you boycotted an Election?

Even if the whole of SE does that it won't still give IPOB referendum.

They will just move in military and take over the government.

If you people has d fire power to face Nigerian military that should b a gud start.

Else, better look for ur PVC and go and vote for someone who will even listen to u at all.

As an IPOB member, I agree with you and that is why I have argued with other IPOB members to look into this call for boycott and ask themselves if it will get us a Referendum.

Kanu should focus more on building our military capacity and international support necessary to help us exploit a CRISIS capable of attracting UN Referendum.


Hope people like Banom, Donelli, kanubiafra and all Biafrans will understand.

Obi1kenobi:
On the basis that they are thinking human beings, open to persuasion. The North's only "parasitic interests" is Niger Delta oil. Believe it or not, the SE really isn't that strategically relevant to Nigeria. It's the least endowed with natural resources and minerals. It's the tiniest region by landmass by far. It's landlocked and is the only region with no international borders. We're frankly not that relevant to the interests of the North.

On the bolded, I'm still curious on what basis the persuasion will be. You've mentioned, and I totally agree, that the bone of contention is oil. You should also note that if we're talking about Igboland strictly it is not just the SE cos the mapping of states was deliberately done to keep the SE on wrong footing. Yes, SE is landlocked (coincidence or deliberate?) but Igboland is not. Again, if it is a fact that the SE is not relevant and the SS is not interested in Biafra, is it not common sense to put that hypothesis to a test via referendum and "kill" this Biafra thing once and for all? Oh wait, it won't happen because the government will keep ignoring the demand for referendum but still deploy military might to suppress unarmed protesters who they want us to believe they are ignoring.

Money didn't need to change hands for the NE legislators to successfully lobby for a North East Development Commission with tens of billions of Naira in extra funding years after they destroyed their own zone with Islamic extremism. If you cannot get your elites to champion the cause of the grassroots, then you're frankly not worth listening to. It is up to us to compel our politicians to fight for the cause. Not making empty noise on Facebook. Again, even the civilized countries in question didn't grant referendums just because some agitators demanded it. It took decades of painstaking, patient work to successfully lobby for it, because no country wants to weaken its unity and territorial integrity. If Ipob agitators are too lazy to do their homework and do what it takes, then they can't be taken seriously. Successful agitation and activism is more than just shouting "zoo" upandan and insulting other Nigerians. This is why I have kept saying Ipob is not a serious intellectual movement and it just became an unserious cult of Nnamdi Kanu.

You made so many interesting points here I don't even know where to start. However, do you think it's reasonable to lobby for basics to be provided? Does the FG not know how many kilometers of federal roads it has to construct across the country? Do we really need lobbying for the FG to construct major federal roads, I mean in a sane environment, should this even be discussed. I'm thinking lobbying should come into play if I am requesting for some "special" projects like, maybe, siting a university in my state or constituency.

What happened to the 3R's that was agreed on after the civil war. Do we also need to lobby for that too?
Let's not become so intelligent that we fail to see simple realities. We are still being punished for daring to challenge the government in 1967, I make bold to say so.

Maybe. Maybe not. It's up to us to try. Two things are for sure:
1) The democratic process is the only way to accomplish it. Failing this, war is the only other option and I can assure you its easy to make noise about war on Facebook or Nairaland, but a much different prospect in the real world.
2) Nothing will certainly be achieved by election boycotts. It simply makes zero sense. I have asked several advocates of this what exactly they intend to accomplish and how it will be accomplished and the next line of action when the election boycotts continue to fail and I have never gotten any sensible answer. It's like going on hunger strike when those you are striking against couldn't care less if you drop dead or not. Take the Presidential election, for example: why the hell would Buhari give the slightest fuckks whether Igbo people vote or not? What will it take away from him? On the contrary, he knows Igbos despise him and wouldn't even want them to vote. Why would he care whether Igbos vote or not? What will your election boycott achieve. Name one thing.

On this I state again, if actually the government doesn't care if we boycott elections why were combined military forces sent to Anambra during the last governorship election. They told you it's to maintain peace abi?