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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:50am On Dec 14, 2018
brodalokie:


You are not following.
What else can be if not a Christian if you are going to get to the father? A Christian is not a churchgoer, he is an attitude or way of life of the person who is loves Jesus.
The answer to your question is simple. Believe in my father and also believe in me. In my father's house are many mansions, and if it were not so, I would tell you.
Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remittion of sins and ye shall receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
How hard can this be?
Many denominations have their own creeds but it does not change what is on the pages
With this your explanation, there is just one word that i want you to analyse "Denomination"
Because denomination could be applied on currencies to signify VALUE but it's like there is nothing like that in what Jesus and His disciples laid down (1Corinthians 3:4) denominations could only be when individuals are choosing whom they're following as founders or pace setters but the first century Christians laid much emphasis on the same mindset! Romans 15:5,6,1Corinthians 1:10, 2Corinthians 13:11, Ephesians 4:3, Phillippians 2:2
So it's COMPULSORY to IDENTIFY the group that's efficiently performing as Christians in our time or else we'll be neglecting something critically important "Jesus' warnings regarding false leaders that will mislead many" Now if there's going to be false prophets or leaders that's going to mislead many, how come we're discarding the fact that there must be a visible group that's truly for Jesus?
Christianity is the only way to Salvation no doubt but Jesus Himself warned against wolves in sheep's clothing (false Christians). God bless you Sir!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 6:51am On Dec 14, 2018
Barristter07:


The Father is the One God.

You ask if he cease to be Lord ? His rank as our God , made him our Lord as well as the bible testify . even Christ belongs to him ( Rev 11:15 Father is called OUR LORD , )

But Jesus rank is " one Lord " NOT God. ( Someone approved him to be Lord over others NOT Father himself who owns him)

But no one approved the Father as the one God. Truth 101.

Father = One God ( Father of all , Sovereign Lord)

Jesus = One Lord ( over others excluding his Father - 1 Cor 15:27)





Truth @bold. Not three persons in one God



Now you are funny, Do u mean Jesus is the literal spoken word that comes out from the Father mouth ? U need to be seriously pitied. Those words spoken during Jesus baptism must be Jesus .


Mr , The Source is the Father - From whom all things are. Clear!!!

That means Jesus is beginning NOT source.

Fight the bible. grin

All these things you are assuming and putting in bracket hope it's like that they put it in bracket in the Bible or it's your own assumption as usual.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:15am On Dec 14, 2018
lovetruth:

The Anglican communion

If they're having paramilitary amongst them, how possible to LOVE their fellow believers from another country?
If they truthfully have JOY,why are they not spreading it by going out to visit others in their homes?
Is it possible for PEACE to reign amongst them when they're involved in politics?
Can they be KIND with their valuable times by spending it zealously preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom?
How many people have been touched by their GOOD attitudes in the neighborhood?
Is their FAITH noticeable by fine works?
Are they MILD in their treatment of unbelievers?
Can you truthfully speak about SELF~CONTROL in their midst?
What Satan is putting in people's minds is that each Christian must possess all those qualities, but that's impossible since we're imperfect, only Jesus Christ God's only begotten son can possess all.
What then should we expect? Yes! A GROUP within which all these qualities permeates.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brodalokie: 8:11am On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm if you surely want me to believe that you're not one of Jehovah's witnesses then you must tell me please i beg you which other group has taught you this! Because that's exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom! The 1,000 years reign of Christ means there is now victory over death that's been plaguing all our ancestors from Adam until now! Because none as in NO ONE has been able to survive up to ONE day=1,000 years since the day Adam ate the forbidden fruit. Glory be to God for this clear understanding of the scriptures. smiley smiley smiley

Paul said why are you diving into groups saying I am from Apolos and I am of Paul, did we die for you? They never preached a denomination.
I am not against JW. But I am against the spirit behind the dogma for not accepting the resurrection of Jesus and His Godhead. It does not mean that they are not saying anything that is correct. Like I said it only took serpent one word to deceive the woman. God said ye shall die and serpent said ye shall Not die

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 8:17am On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:

If they're having paramilitary amongst them, how possible to LOVE their fellow believers from another country?
If they truthfully have JOY,why are they not spreading it by going out to visit others in their homes?
Is it possible for PEACE to reign amongst them when they're involved in politics?
Can they be KIND with their valuable times by spending it zealously preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom?
How many people have been touched by their GOOD attitudes in the neighborhood?
Is their FAITH noticeable by fine works?
Are they MILD in their treatment of unbelievers?
Can you truthfully speak about SELF~CONTROL in their midst?
What Satan is putting in people's minds is that each Christian must possess all those qualities, but that's impossible since we're imperfect, only Jesus Christ God's only begotten son can possess all.
What then should we expect? Yes! A GROUP within which all these qualities permeates.

You that your jehovah will commit the greatest genocide ever known to man nko? Paramilitary this paramilitary that. Your governing body member that said he will be beside Jesus killing wicked people in Armageddon Nko?
Are you any better?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by lovetruth(m): 8:53am On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:

If they're having paramilitary amongst them, how possible to LOVE their fellow believers from another country?
If they truthfully have JOY,why are they not spreading it by going out to visit others in their homes?
Is it possible for PEACE to reign amongst them when they're involved in politics?
Can they be KIND with their valuable times by spending it zealously preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom?
How many people have been touched by their GOOD attitudes in the neighborhood?
Is their FAITH noticeable by fine works?
Are they MILD in their treatment of unbelievers?
Can you truthfully speak about SELF~CONTROL in their midst?
What Satan is putting in people's minds is that each Christian must possess all those qualities, but that's impossible since we're imperfect, only Jesus Christ God's only begotten son can possess all.
What then should we expect? Yes! A GROUP within which all these qualities permeates.
i repeat the Anglican communion is not what u tink but wat it really is. for the fact am not a saint doesnot mean there wont be one we all need to work towards perfectio. unholiness is not allowed in paradise.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:25am On Dec 14, 2018
brodalokie:


Paul said why are you diving into groups saying I am from Apolos and I am of Paul, did we die for you? They never preached a denomination.
I am not against JW. But I am against the spirit behind the dogma for not accepting the resurrection of Jesus and His Godhead. It does not mean that they are not saying anything that is correct. Like I said it only took serpent one word to deceive the woman. God said ye shall die and serpent said ye shall Not die
You are also just being theoretical like everyone else my friend. That's why Jesus laid much emphasis on "FRUIT" {Matthew 7:15-20} and James (Jesus' blood brother who later became a born again Christian) said 'WORKS" {James 2:15-26} so apart from all your theories what matters most is the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what you're saying! That's the evidence that there is WISDOM in your explanations or interpretations !
So Godhead or not,what is the proof that you're doing something beneficial,when there's nothing to show for it?
You're saying JWs don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus but they're zealously preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom telling everyone that THERE IS GOING TO BE RESURRECTION of the dead!
Hellooooooo from what source do you think that idea is coming?
You've said truthfully that you're confused about what JWs are preaching, so why not pay more attention to grasp it all? Remember most of Jesus' first disciples left Him just because "they felt He is confusing them"{John 6:60-69}
As for the devil, you're totally wrong because you've not gotten the gimmicks this evil genius is using. Satan won't tell you anything close to the truth! Genesis 3:4,5
* You will NOT die
* Your eyes will be open
* You will become like God
* You will know what is good and what is bad
Everything as in all of these have proved to be LIES!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:40am On Dec 14, 2018
lovetruth:

i repeat the Anglican communion is not what u tink but wat it really is. for the fact am not a saint doesnot mean there wont be one we all need to work towards perfectio. unholiness is not allowed in paradise.
If your religious group is not strict about all those qualities, then it has nothing to do with true Christianity! 1Corinthians 6:9-11 Galatians 5:19-21
There is NO member of Jehovah's Witnesses that's to be reckoned with if such a person is found wanting in any of those mentioned above! They can only be allowed to come and learn how we're able to overcome those traits but nobody will give them any recommendations. That's what the early Christians did, so that you're hearing the names of those who are standing firm in the faith. Remember a Christian committed adultery in Corinth, was his name mentioned? That's because he can never become a celebrity amongst God's own people if he is not ready to put on the new personality!
We surely do have celebrities amongst Jehovah's Witnesses but it's not due to their wealth, social status, beauty, influence or race. It's simply how they're able to put on the new personality! smiley smiley smiley

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:45pm On Dec 14, 2018
I can't believe how you believe I have so much hatred for the JW's, I have never said: I hated the JW's-this is your own imagination-making up lies once again..
No-one said: they hate the JW's-its the JW's that believe such rubbish, only because we don't agree with you..
We haven't anything against you personally, We don't agree with your message-and there is no law to say we have to agree with it either-it's unscriptural rubbish..
I suppose you will never see any group if it was staring at you to your face, because you only can see where your heart directs you to see, this is why you are having trouble understanding which Group is truly born again.
And if Jesus gathered individuals, trained them how to do things right so the hole world could SEE their activities, then obviously you missed out, because if you were trained by Christ-you would preached how He preached, do what He done, and believed what He believed..But you don't tongue
TATIME:
My friend, i can't imagine how much hatred you have for Jehovah's Witnesses that could equate the hatred i had for them with passion. But all i'm saying is "there is no other group that has been able to meet up with the remarkable achievements of this single group".
You're saying they're clean outside but full of hypocrisy on the inside,that's exactly what Jesus said about the Pharisees and Sadusees. If you want me to agree with you on that, then just do something that Jesus did next after saying so. He gathered individuals, trained them how to do things right and the whole world could SEE their activities, that's why all of you are now claiming Christians today because the Bible mentioned the "group name" Jesus' followers were called back then!
So you've quoted what Jesus said but before it could be well fitting as a description of JWs, you must PRESENT, POINT, SHOW everyone another group that's performing better that's all! undecided undecided
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:51pm On Dec 14, 2018
Is this picture of you,TATIME
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/8318923_img20181212072454999_jpegdbb9519b7bd2c4dbdec1c419d80b2c20
TATIME:
If your religious group is not strict about all those qualities, then it has nothing to do with true Christianity! 1Corinthians 6:9-11 Galatians 5:19-21
There is NO member of Jehovah's Witnesses that's to be reckoned with if such a person is found wanting in any of those mentioned above! They can only be allowed to come and learn how we're able to overcome those traits but nobody will give them any recommendations. That's what the early Christians did, so that you're hearing the names of those who are standing firm in the faith. Remember a Christian committed adultery in Corinth, was his name mentioned? That's because he can never become a celebrity amongst God's own people if he is not ready to put on the new personality!
We surely do have celebrities amongst Jehovah's Witnesses but it's not due to their wealth, social status, beauty, influence or race. It's simply how they're able to put on the new personality! smiley smiley smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TruthinAction: 2:56pm On Dec 14, 2018
brodalokie:


1,000 years = 1 day
then
1 day = 1,000 years
How come you are still confused?

Adam could not reach 1,000 years because he logically died that day.
The man who wrote it that 1,000 years is one day knew about Adam's story too.
The millennium is for people who have overcome so the 1,000 reign signify their victory over death that plagued their ancestor Adam

You need to enroll in nursery school.

1 day with man = 1000 years with God.
That means 2 days = 2,000 years.
And 1,000 years on earth = 1000000 years.

The second case is different.

1,000 years with man = 1 day with God
2,000 years with man = 2 days with God.

It is this second case you always refer to. But how do you reconcile the first case?

If every day we spend on earth is equivalent to 1,000 years with God, then Adam actually lived 1 million years in the eyes of God. So you see how foolish it is to interpret it that the Bible is telling us what the equivalent of days mean with God.

The bottom line is that the spirit world is timeless.

For a benefit of doubt, read the scripture quotation again.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So it is not possible to equate 1 day (with man) = 1000 years (with God)

1000 years (with man) = 1 day (with God)

They are certainly not the same. And you can't pick one of them and make a doctrine out of it. Pls, come out of JW. They are full of deceit and destined for destruction.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brodalokie: 4:04pm On Dec 14, 2018
TruthinAction:


You need to enroll in nursery school.

1 day with man = 1000 years with God.
That means 2 days = 2,000 years.
And 1,000 years on earth = 1000000 years.

The second case is different.

1,000 years with man = 1 day with God
2,000 years with man = 2 days with God.

It is this second case you always refer to. But how do you reconcile the first case?

If every day we spend on earth is equivalent to 1,000 years with God, then Adam actually lived 1 million years in the eyes of God. So you see how foolish it is to interpret it that the Bible is telling us what the equivalent of days mean with God.

The bottom line is that the spirit world is timeless.

For a benefit of doubt, read the scripture quotation again.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So it is not possible to equate 1 day (with man) = 1000 years (with God)

1000 years (with man) = 1 day (with God)

They are certainly not the same. And you can't pick one of them and make a doctrine out of it. Pls, come out of JW. They are full of deceit and destined for destruction.

You are opposed to my teaching for a reasonable cause but I am still going to loosen you up by the Holy Spirit when you catch the revelation, it won't matter how you got to it. All glory to God.
Listen carefully now.
The recording of the years of Adam started after the fall but the Bible said that this happened on the 7th day that God rested.
1,000 years with Man who is Adam is the 1 day spoken by God. So if Adam been a man was to count 1 day, he would be looking at 1,000 years. It is just like calling year 2,000 the beginning of end times. From Adam to Jesus is 4,000 BC then add up to year 2,000 AD will give you 6,000 years already past so we are living in the early stages of the remaining 1,000 years to complete 7,000 which is the 7th day that God rested. This is why they call it the end of the world or apocalypse because it was on the 7th day that the serpent who is The Beast or AntiGod caused the fall.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:32pm On Dec 14, 2018
brocab:
I can't believe how you believe I have so much hatred for the JW's, I have never said: I hated the JW's-this is your own imagination-making up lies once again..
No-one said: they hate the JW's-its the JW's that believe such rubbish, only because we don't agree with you..
We haven't anything against you personally, We don't agree with your message-and there is no law to say we have to agree with it either-it's unscriptural rubbish..
I suppose you will never see any group if it was staring at you to your face, because you only can see where your heart directs you to see, this is why you are having trouble understanding which Group is truly born again.
And if Jesus gathered individuals, trained them how to do things right so the hole world could SEE their activities, then obviously you missed out, because if you were trained by Christ-you would preached how He preached, do what He done, and believed what He believed..But you don't tongue
So are you in agreement with all other religious groups claiming Christians? Because to me it's obvious you're not but you're only against one single group (Jehovah's witnesses)
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by EMIOMOADEOYE: 4:38pm On Dec 14, 2018
My Brothers in Faith.....

I have read so much and so much on this thread

I am quite surprised at some of the responses that some of my brothers have given to questions raised about so called doctrines of JW.

Some people have even gone as far as getting embroiled in arguments about 1000 years being a day and what not.

Let us not forget what our experience with these issues are on the field. Of what benefit is winning an argument of this sort. Even Jesus Christ knew what matters to get involved in and the ones he should avoid.

Let us no get dragged into unnecessary bickering with people who do not share our faith.

Jesus Christ said some wise words in Mathew 7:6. Those words are strong solid words that we need to take to mind at all times....especially in times as these when people do not appreciate the truths in the bible the way we do

Let us not forget that it is Jehovah alone that draws people to him. Not how many arguments we are able to win.

In the end we want to be light bearers shining and illuminating a darkened world.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:42pm On Dec 14, 2018
brocab:
Is this picture of you,TATIME
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/8318923_img20181212072454999_jpegdbb9519b7bd2c4dbdec1c419d80b2c20
How i wish it is,because during the time the Christians were writing their globally recognised Christian Greek Scriptures and their names were recorded inside the documents. Many of their contemporaries were also practicing different religions in Israel but their names are nowhere to be found in the Bible (God's own record) except those who dealt badly and treasurously with Christians. Today God's people are now making records of all that they're doing and pictures are inclusive not only names, so i'll have been the happiest man on earth like this my Christian brother whose picture is on the top of a worldwide publication of God's people! smiley smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by lovetruth(m): 5:20pm On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
If your religious group is not strict about all those qualities, then it has nothing to do with true Christianity! 1Corinthians 6:9-11 Galatians 5:19-21
There is NO member of Jehovah's Witnesses that's to be reckoned with if such a person is found wanting in any of those mentioned above! They can only be allowed to come and learn how we're able to overcome those traits but nobody will give them any recommendations. That's what the early Christians did, so that you're hearing the names of those who are standing firm in the faith. Remember a Christian committed adultery in Corinth, was his name mentioned? That's because he can never become a celebrity amongst God's own people if he is not ready to put on the new personality!
We surely do have celebrities amongst Jehovah's Witnesses but it's not due to their wealth, social status, beauty, influence or race. It's simply how they're able to put on the new personality! smiley smiley smiley
same thing i said
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 6:15pm On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
If your religious group is not strict about all those qualities, then it has nothing to do with true Christianity! 1Corinthians 6:9-11 Galatians 5:19-21
There is NO member of Jehovah's Witnesses that's to be reckoned with if such a person is found wanting in any of those mentioned above! They can only be allowed to come and learn how we're able to overcome those traits but nobody will give them any recommendations. That's what the early Christians did, so that you're hearing the names of those who are standing firm in the faith. Remember a Christian committed adultery in Corinth, was his name mentioned? That's because he can never become a celebrity amongst God's own people if he is not ready to put on the new personality!
We surely do have celebrities amongst Jehovah's Witnesses but it's not due to their wealth, social status, beauty, influence or race. It's simply how they're able to put on the new personality! smiley smiley smiley


Watchtower October 2018 Study Edition article titled "Speaking the Truth"......... Paragraph 7.....

There are many RELIGIOUS LEADERS in our day too. They may be called pastors, priests, rabbis, swamis, or by other titles. Like the Pharisees, they do not teach the truth from God’s Word but have “exchanged the truth of God for the lie.” .


REPHRASING THE PARAGRAPH?

There are many RELIGIOUS LEADERS in our day too. They may be called GOVERNING BODY, HELPER TO THE GOVERNING BODY, FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVES, GUARDIANS OF DOCTRINES e.t.c. Like the Pharisees, they do not teach the truth from God's Word but have " exchanged the truth of God for the lie."

Do you believe this? TATIME!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 6:23pm On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
If your religious group is not strict about all those qualities, then it has nothing to do with true Christianity! 1Corinthians 6:9-11 Galatians 5:19-21
There is NO member of Jehovah's Witnesses that's to be reckoned with if such a person is found wanting in any of those mentioned above! They can only be allowed to come and learn how we're able to overcome those traits but nobody will give them any recommendations. That's what the early Christians did, so that you're hearing the names of those who are standing firm in the faith. Remember a Christian committed adultery in Corinth, was his name mentioned? That's because he can never become a celebrity amongst God's own people if he is not ready to put on the new personality!
We surely do have celebrities amongst Jehovah's Witnesses but it's not due to their wealth, social status, beauty, influence or race. It's simply how they're able to put on the new personality! smiley smiley smiley

Watchtower October 2018 Study edition titled "speaking the truth" Paragraph 8........

Politicians too have used lies to deceive humans. One of the biggest lies they will soon tell is that they have brought “peace and security” to the world. But “then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them.” So we should not believe these political leaders who say that things are improving. Supporting scripture 1 Thessalonians 5: 1-4

QUESTION: Was that verse cited(verse 3) referring to politicians? Oga Tatime who follow strict rules please respond.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 6:32pm On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
If your religious group is not strict about all those qualities, then it has nothing to do with true Christianity! 1Corinthians 6:9-11 Galatians 5:19-21
There is NO member of Jehovah's Witnesses that's to be reckoned with if such a person is found wanting in any of those mentioned above! They can only be allowed to come and learn how we're able to overcome those traits but nobody will give them any recommendations. That's what the early Christians did, so that you're hearing the names of those who are standing firm in the faith. Remember a Christian committed adultery in Corinth, was his name mentioned? That's because he can never become a celebrity amongst God's own people if he is not ready to put on the new personality!
We surely do have celebrities amongst Jehovah's Witnesses but it's not due to their wealth, social status, beauty, influence or race. It's simply how they're able to put on the new personality! smiley smiley smiley



Oga TATIME don't just write or post things you don't have good statistics about.......


Watchtower October 2018 study edition article titled "speaking the truth" Paragraph 15............

If you are a young person, you may want your peers to accept you. Yet because of this desire, some young people are living a double life. They pretend to be morally clean when they are with their family and the congregation but are completely different when they are on social media or with people who do not serve Jehovah. They may use bad language, wear immodest clothes, listen to music with unclean lyrics, get drunk, use drugs, date secretly, or do other bad things. They are lying to their parents, to their brothers and sisters, and to Jehovah. ( Psalm 26:4, 5 ) But Jehovah knows when we claim to honor him and then do things he hates. ( Mark 7:6) It is so much better to do what the proverb says: “Let your heart not envy sinners, but be in the fear of Jehovah all day long.

Paragraph 16............

If you want to become a regular pioneer or begin special full-time service, for example at Bethel, you have to fill out an application. It is very important that you give honest answers to questions about your health, the type of entertainment you choose, and your morals. (Hebrews 13:18 ) But what if you have done something that Jehovah hates or something that bothers your conscience and you have not talked to the elders about it? Ask them for help so that you can serve Jehovah with a clean conscience.​



Oga TATIME the strict obedient RULER................Can you see where the hypocrisy lies in all what you have been trying to defend? Even the "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION" members do and practice Galatians 5:19-21.

The picture or artistic impression for (paragraph 15,16) gives you the details in summary.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TruthinAction: 6:50pm On Dec 14, 2018
brodalokie:


You are opposed to my teaching for a reasonable cause but I am still going to loosen you up by the Holy Spirit when you catch the revelation, it won't matter how you got to it. All glory to God.
Listen carefully now.
The recording of the years of Adam started after the fall but the Bible said that this happened on the 7th day that God rested.
1,000 years with Man who is Adam is the 1 day spoken by God. So if Adam been a man was to count 1 day, he would be looking at 1,000 years. It is just like calling year 2,000 the beginning of end times. From Adam to Jesus is 4,000 BC then add up to year 2,000 AD will give you 6,000 years already past so we are living in the early stages of the remaining 1,000 years to complete 7,000 which is the 7th day that God rested. This is why they call it the end of the world or apocalypse because it was on the 7th day that the serpent who is The Beast or AntiGod caused the fall.

There is no redemption for you. I will not waste any more time to chat with you. Continue in your deceit. You will regret all these.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 6:57pm On Dec 14, 2018
EMIOMOADEOYE:
My Brothers in Faith.....

I have read so much and so much on this thread

I am quite surprised at some of the responses that some of my brothers have given to questions raised about so called doctrines of JW.

Some people have even gone as far as getting embroiled in arguments about 1000 years being a day and what not.

Let us not forget what our experience with these issues are on the field. Of what benefit is winning an argument of this sort. Even Jesus Christ knew what matters to get involved in and the ones he should avoid.

Let us no get dragged into unnecessary bickering with people who do not share our faith.

Jesus Christ said some wise words in Mathew 7:6. Those words are strong solid words that we need to take to mind at all times....especially in times as these when people do not appreciate the truths in the bible the way we do

Let us not forget that it is Jehovah alone that draws people to him. Not how many arguments we are able to win.

In the end we want to be light bearers shining and illuminating a darkened world.

Its a pity you have taken a look at it on just the side of your brothers in faith. I only have one question for you bro! Galatians 6:10 was a central bible text in one of the circuit assembly meetings this year and it has something that catches my fancy?

Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. NIV


So, then, as long as we have the opportunity, let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith. NWT

What should bind us all as BROTHERS in FAITH? Who is a BELIEVER according to the scripture?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 7:06pm On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
So are you in agreement with all other religious groups claiming Christians? Because to me it's obvious you're not but you're only against one single group (Jehovah's witnesses)

No he is against the fact of you only restricting the focus of your eyes to the ONE GROUP you went as far as putting it in a bracket as if it was stated in virtually all the scriptures you used to prove your CLAIMS.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 9:59pm On Dec 14, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:


So last last wisdom is a woman/girl. Your jehovah lacked wisdom till he created wisdom. Eya

Glue your BLASPHEMOUS mouth there!
Must U always LIE ?
Hairyrapunzel Stupidity on "PLAY" mode.
"She" in Hebrew language does NOT equate to a woman/ girl ,or female gender in English .

Anti JW viral syndrome done komot your sense finish . IBERIBEISM !
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:15pm On Dec 14, 2018
achorladey:


No he is against the fact of you only restricting the focus of your eyes to the ONE GROUP you went as far as putting it in a bracket as if it was stated in virtually all the scriptures you used to prove your CLAIMS.
2John 9-11& 3John 9,10 So just leave the organization, instead of hiding behind and maliciously slandering the group that you're still associating with.
Your case is the WORSTEST Sir! undecided undecided
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:19pm On Dec 14, 2018
achorladey:


Its a pity you have taken a look at it on just the side of your brothers in faith. I only have one question for you bro! Galatians 6:10 was a central bible text in one of the circuit assembly meetings this year and it has something that catches my fancy?

Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. NIV


So, then, as long as we have the opportunity, let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith. NWT

What should bind us all as BROTHERS in FAITH? Who is a BELIEVER according to the scripture?
Whoever claims to be a Christian no matter what he or she practices as in his/her worship! cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 10:27pm On Dec 14, 2018
brodalokie:


What do you think of unto us a child is born but he is the everlasting Father and his kingdom shall be forever in Isaiah? Or I and my father are one?

In the entire holy scriptures, Yahweh / Jehovah/ Yahweh was NEVER. a son to anyone whether in heaven or earth.
That son was called "Jesus ,Son of the Most High" , Yahweh ( Luke 1:30-33) granted power to rule by the Ancient of Days ,Yahweh, his Father and God ( Daniel 7:13,14. Rev 3:21. John 20:17,30,31).

2) He is called " Everlasting Father" for a reason.
Our Father, the first Adam gave us life & lost it due to sin (Rom5:12) . Jesus Christ replaced Adam and became our Everlasting Father( the last Adam, 1 cor 15:21,22,45,47) because he sacrificed his perfect life to give us everlasting life if we exercise faith in him (John 3:16. ROM 6:23).

3) Father and I (we) are one" is strictly referring to a close, intimate relationship.

i) How are U one with a prostitute ?
intimate,illicit sexual relationship.

ii) How are U one with Jesus ?
Close, intimate relationship with Jesus.

iii) How does two become one ?
1Cor6:15-17. Matt 19:5,6. Mal 2:15.
Marriage relationship, intimacy b/w man and wife.

Pls note: Jesus NEVER said " Father and I are one" God. Men twisted it that way.

"Father and I (We) are one" means intimate,united, close relationship, Two spiritual beings (Yahweh & Jesus) in agreement with each other.
Can two walk together except they agree? Amos 3:3.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:59pm On Dec 14, 2018
OneJ:


In the entire holy scriptures, Yahweh / Jehovah was NEVER. a son to anyone whether in heaven or earth.
That son was called "Son of the Most High" ( Luke 1:30-33) granted power to rule by the Ancient of Days ,Yahweh, his Father and God ( Daniel 7:13,14. Rev 3:21. John 20:17,30,31).

2) He is called " Everlasting Father" for a reason.
Our Father, the first Adam gave us life & lost it due to sin (Rom5:12) . Jesus Christ replaced Adam and became our Everlasting Father( the last Adam, 1 cor 15:21,22,45,47) because he sacrificed his perfect life to give us everlasting life if we exercise faith in him (John 3:16. ROM 6:23).

3) Father and I are one" is strictly referring to a close, intimate relationship.

i) How are U one with a prostitute ?
intimate,illicit sexual relationship.

ii) How are U one with Jesus ?
Close, intimate relationship with Jesus.

iii) How does two become one ?
1Cor6:15-17. Matt 19:5,6. Mal 2:15.
Marriage relationship, intimacy b/w man and wife.

Pls note: Jesus NEVER said " Father and I are one God".

"Father and I (We) are one" means intimate, close relationship, Two spiritual beings (Yahweh & Jesus) united and in agreement.
Can two walk together except they agree? Amos 3:3.
Simple and straightforward!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brodalokie: 11:03pm On Dec 14, 2018
OneJ:


In the entire holy scriptures, Yahweh / Jehovah was NEVER. a son to anyone whether in heaven or earth.
That son was called "Son of the Most High" ( Luke 1:30-33) granted power to rule by the Ancient of Days ,Yahweh, his Father and God ( Daniel 7:13,14. Rev 3:21. John 20:17,30,31).

2) He is called " Everlasting Father" for a reason.
Our Father, the first Adam gave us life & lost it due to sin (Rom5:12) . Jesus Christ replaced Adam and became our Everlasting Father( the last Adam, 1 cor 15:21,22,45,47) because he sacrificed his perfect life to give us everlasting life if we exercise faith in him (John 3:16).

3) Father and I are one" is strictly referring to a close, intimate relationship.


Compare this
Jesus the creator
John 1.10
1 Cro. 8.6
Eph 3.9
Col 1.12 to 17
Heb 1.8 to 12
Rev 4.8 to 12
Rev 10.6
Rev 14.8 to 11
Rev 10.6
Rev 14.6 to 7
Rev 21.5 to 7
Rev 22.3
Rev 7.17

God the creator
Gen 1.1
Gen 2.7
Job 33.4
Psa 33.6
Psa 104.30
Isa 40.28
Isa 44.24
Isa 45.11 to 18
Mal 2.10

Also
Jesus the first and last
Rev 1.17
Rev 22.13

God the first and last
Isa 41.14
Isa 43.10,11
Isa 44.6,8

Also
Jesus the I am that I am
John 18.5 to 8
Rev 1.17 to 18
John 8.24 to 28

God the I am that I am
Exod 3.13, 14

The Lord our God is One Lord. Mark 12.29
For in Him dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2.9

Jesus is God in human form. And the word was made flesh and dwelleth among us.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 11:22pm On Dec 14, 2018
OneJ:


Glue your BLASPHEMOUS mouth there!
Must U always LIE ?
Hairyrapunzel Stupidity on "PLAY" mode.
"She" in Hebrew language does NOT equate to a woman/ girl ,or female gender in English .

Anti JW viral syndrome done komot your sense finish . IBERIBEISM !


Buhaha. Now she in Hebrew language doesn't equate woman /girl? Let me help you
No she is only used for man. Intact anywhere you see she in the Bible just know the person is a man/boy. Are you satisfied now?


It doesn't change the fact that wisdom is a girl who cries at the city gate and jehovah didn't have wisdom until he created wisdom. You want to change bible by all means.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:24pm On Dec 14, 2018
brodalokie:


Compare this
Jesus the creator
John 1.10
1 Cro. 8.6
Eph 3.9
Col 1.12 to 17
Heb 1.8 to 12
Rev 4.8 to 12
Rev 10.6
Rev 14.8 to 11
Rev 10.6
Rev 14.6 to 7
Rev 21.5 to 7
Rev 22.3
Rev 7.17

God the creator
Gen 1.1
Gen 2.7
Job 33.4
Psa 33.6
Psa 104.30
Isa 40.28
Isa 44.24
Isa 45.11 to 18
Mal 2.10

Also
Jesus the first and last
Rev 1.17
Rev 22.13

God the first and last
Isa 41.14
Isa 43.10,11
Isa 44.6,8

Also
Jesus the I am that I am
John 18.5 to 8
Rev 1.17 to 18
John 8.24 to 28

God the I am that I am
Exod 3.13, 14

The Lord our God is One Lord. Mark 12.29

Mark 12:29 ,Jesus quoted Deut 6:4. "Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" (The Lord no dey Hebrew manuscript, if U quoted another person, U stick to his statement in your mother tongue).
One God, the only true God, Yahweh/Jehovah (John 17:3) is not Jesus Christ.

the son , the Father and the ghost is indeed 3gods, triune Gods.

"I am " does not exist in Hebrew language. (pls research. )Exo 3:14 have no link with John 8:58, where your mind dey.
The Hebrew. "I will be what I will be" was mistranslated as. " I am" in Exo 3:14.
More later...
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 11:33pm On Dec 14, 2018
TATIME:
2John 9-11& 3John 9,10 So just leave the organization, instead of hiding behind and maliciously slandering the group that you're still associating with.
Your case is the WORSTEST Sir! undecided undecided

What is MALICIOUS in quoting from the Magazines you are still reading for the whole of this month? Did I change or distort what is there? I know you will parry the issues raised. Na your way and business as usual.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by OneJ: 11:36pm On Dec 14, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:



Buhaha. Now she in Hebrew language doesn't equate woman /girl? Let me help you
No she is only used for man. Intact anywhere you see she in the Bible just know the person is a man/boy. Are you satisfied now?


It doesn't change the fact that wisdom is a girl who cries at the city gate and jehovah didn't have wisdom until he created wisdom. You want to change bible by all means.
.

Shut up your BLASPHEMOUS mouth there..
Every person conversant with Hebrew language is aware that "she" in Hebrew is different from "she" in English language.
Your fellow Trinitarian online site , gotquestions.com and other sources confirmed the solid fact U are here kicking against.

U make yourself look FOOLISH whenever U come online to display your "IBERIBEISM".
SERIAL LIAR

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