TATIME:

I've told you before that brother C.T. Russell wasn't the founder of this wonderful group, otherwise nobody would change what he laid down Correct or Incorrect.

TATIME:
Jesus gave the keys of the Kingdom to Peter, Peter committed lots and lots of blunders and when he is corrected even by someone like Paul who never walked with Jesus, Peter humbly welcomes reproof! Matthew 16:19,Matthew 26:69-75,Galatians 2:11-14

TATIME:
That's exactly the problem all these other religious groups are having today!
They stick to whatever their human founders dogmatically lay down as doctrines and they're never going to improve on it even if they discovered there are flaws.
I've told you before that brother C.T. Russell wasn't the founder of this wonderful group, otherwise nobody would change what he laid down Correct or Incorrect.
Jesus gave the keys of the Kingdom to Peter, Peter committed lots and lots of blunders and when he is corrected even by someone like Paul who never walked with Jesus, Peter humbly welcomes reproof! Matthew 16:19,Matthew 26:69-75,Galatians 2:11-14
Peter also spread the rumor that John won't die until Jesus returns, it was after all the Apostles had died that God's Holy Spirit inspired John to include in his record of the gospel that Jesus never said so. John 21:20-23
Paul (who wasn't with the Apostles during the life and ministry of Jesus) founded many churches as he travels through the Mediterranean sea area,he was establishing what the Apostles laid down as principles and Peter commended Paul even after being shunned publicly by the same Paul. 2Peter 3:15
Please if you lived as a contemporary of these men, would you have agreed that God's Holy Spirit used them?
Well that's the heritage of the worshippers of JEHOVAH. HE is not expecting perfection from them, HE is only interested in how imperfect descendants of Adam are willing to accept corrections! Psalms 103:14 God bless you Sir!

TATIME:
The title "GOD" is what caused all these arguments. But it could easily be resolved if we consider Psalms 82:1,6
There the scriptures said in verse 1 "GOD stand in the congregation of the mighty, HE judges amongst the Gods" verse 6 reads "I have said,you are Gods and all of you are the children of the most high".
One word that took my attention is JUDGE. Why? Because according to Genesis chapter 3:4 5 there Satan told Eve that if they disregards God's orders "they will become Gods. This means they'll be in the position to determine what is good and bad or in other words they'll become "judges".
So when Psalms 82:1 says God JUDGES amongst the Gods, surely those ones aren't supposed to be judges or Kings who will determine the fate of other intelligent creatures based on what they assume to be good or bad. That's why God said they will die just like others. Psalms 82:6
In conclusion Moses became God before Pharaoh and all his contemporaries to determine their fate,that of Pharaoh and all his(Pharaoh's) subjects as a JUDGE who will tell them what is good or bad. Exodus 7:1
Jesus became God before all those who will have everlasting life as a JUDGE who will tell them what is good and what is bad. Isaiah 11:1-5 compared to John 8:16
Both Moses and Jesus served as God to the glory of the Almighty who made them Gods and they're ever subjected to the One who elevated them to serve in that capacity! Deuteronomy 6:4 Mark 12:29 1Corinthians 15:20-28
God bless you Sir!

OneJ:


"thou being a man maketh thyself God" was a false allegations labeled against Jesus.

Christ disagreed with that false allegation.

"Jesus answered them,..... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said 'I am God's son?" John 10:34-36.

The Jews NEVER understood Son of God as meaning God incarnate.

In John 17:3, Jesus gives solid proof that he is not Jehovah in the New Testament.

Is John 20:17,30,31 . Acts 3:12-15 hard for U to understand?

brodalokie:


You look at the magnitude of authority you just allotted to position of Jesus. Is there anybody else in that capacity?

If we are ALL made GODS by eating from the fruits and we are ALL made priests and KINGS through the blood of Jesus then who is the one person in the center of us all? If not Jesus the Christ?

brodalokie:


You look at the magnitude of authority you just allotted to position of Jesus. Is there anybody else in that capacity?

If we are ALL made GODS by eating from the fruits and we are ALL made priests and KINGS through the blood of Jesus then who is the one person in the center of us all? If not Jesus the Christ?

Mind you Jesus was born in April and not December 25

TATIME:
I'm not getting your point.

TATIME:
NO Sir! It's Satan's idea that humans should become judges for themselves not God's arrangement. Ecclesiastes 4:1,8:9
The arrangement should have been God tells Adam what is good and bad, And Adam pass the info to his descendants as God's firstborn on the surface of the earth. Luke 3:38
If Adam have remained loyal to God, there won't have been any need for Jesus to come and do anything for us here because our father Adam would have remained for eternity,always passing lifesaving info to his descendants from our Grandfather God. But because he failed and passed on sin and death to all of us, that's why we need another sinless person to replace Adam( 1Corinthians 15:45) as our new father who will start passing the lifesaving info to us (John 8:28)and remain forever as our everlasting father! Isaiah 9:6

TATIME:
If the "Jehovah's organization" members are ALLOWED to practice Galatians 5:19-21
Please why are they laying emphasis on it seriously in a study article of our watchtower?
Let me give you a useful advice that will benefit you greatly. "if you're no more interested in Jehovah's Witnesses organization, no one is forcing you to stay, therefore you're free to go and join any other group that pleases you" When Apostle Paul was writing that letter to Christians in Galatia, he wasn't saying "he's sure that Christians are TOTALLY clean or free from all those practices"( Romans 7:21-23,1Corinthians 6:9-11,) rather he is reminding them the practices that Jehovah won't permit in HIS Kingdom.
Of course Christians came from different races, cultures and backgrounds, so whatever each person's background permits out of all that's mentioned MUST BE DONE AWAY WITH meaning you should learn how to stop it or leave Christianity if you're not ready to stop it. 1Corinthians 5:9-13
Now there are many religious groups claiming Christians today,most of them aren't emphasizing the need for their members to stop those things, which religious group gives NO room for such practices?
When JW organization condemns
*National Anthems
*Military services
*Politics
*Interfaith
*Intermarriage between members and none members and so on amongst their members, other religious groups raised eyebrows. But a careful study of JWs magazines will help honesthearted persons to know that even though you knew very well the works of the flesh and wants to keep away from them, there are events or friendships that will definitely lead you into practicing them. 1Corinthians 15:33
Those are the things JWs condemns in our organization!

brodalokie:


Exactly, it will shock you to see how much of a judge we have become to mankind and against mankind. We keep judging ourselves. Saturn is playing tricks on us.

TATIME:
So all judges are serving as gods whether appointed, selected, elected or through divine appointment like Moses and Jesus. But while Moses and Jesus served as representatives of the one who made them judges, human judges are serving the interest of Satan who deceived Adam and Eve. So they're judging based on what humans agreed upon as good or bad, not what God says!

TATIME:
So all judges are serving as gods whether appointed, selected, elected or through divine appointment like Moses and Jesus. But while Moses and Jesus served as representatives of the one who made them judges, human judges are serving the interest of Satan who deceived Adam and Eve. So they're judging based on what humans agreed upon as good or bad, not what God says!

achorladey:

Other religious denominations condemns it as well. You might go and research up on values that promotes PEACE in your CIVIC EDUCATION or SOCIAL STUDIES. One of such value is TOLERANCE. When some religious denominations TOLERATE some practice(s) it doesn't mean ACCEPTANCE. Now you know.

OGA TATIME I beg take your time to read the conversation above carefully. You will be glad you did.

TATIME:
It's not just enough to make someone feel bad because he's remaining faithful and loyal to what he/she has been taught to believe, it's rather reasonable to direct, present, point or show him/her the best way to do what he/she thought he/she is doing right!

TATIME:
So all those rival groups form alliance against Jesus' group (Christians).
So it became obvious that the activities of those rival groups are diminishing and becoming futile as many people are now getting used to Christianity (the only Jewish group that's performing greatly as lovers of those in their neighborhood).

TATIME:
I want to agree that JWs are fake,

TATIME:
but won't it make sense if a PERFORMING group is presented to show honesthearted individuals that "this is how Christianity ought to be"?

TATIME:
Pharisees in the first century stopped performing as worshippers of Jehovah,because there are many rival groups until Jesus commissioned Christianity. So all those rival groups form alliance against Jesus' group (Christians).
So it became obvious that the activities of those rival groups are diminishing and becoming futile as many people are now getting used to Christianity (the only Jewish group that's performing greatly as lovers of those in their neighborhood).
I want to agree that JWs are fake, but won't it make sense if a PERFORMING group is presented to show honesthearted individuals that "this is how Christianity ought to be"? It's not just enough to make someone feel bad because he's remaining faithful and loyal to what he/she has been taught to believe, it's rather reasonable to direct, present, point or show him/her the best way to do what he/she thought he/she is doing right! The Pharisees are all out with rage to intimidate, criticize, prosecute, persecute and make the Christians feel worthless with all their unwavering faith in Jesus but NEVER ready to present, show, point or direct them to a better WAY to worship the true God.
I don't want to believe that that's exactly what all you critics against Jehovah's Witnesses are doing right now!

TATIME:
Choose where you wish to worship and with whom you're willing to worship, as for me and my house it's amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

achorladey:


QUESTIONS:

1. Do the ELDERS in the CONGREGATIONS OF JEHOVAH'S witnesses serve as JUDGES? A. Yes B. No. C. I choose not to answer.

2. Do you also agree from your comment and post am responding to that the ELDERS in the CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are serving the INTEREST of SATAN? A.. Yes B. No. C. I choose to dodge the questions.

TATIME:
Choose where you wish to worship and with whom you're willing to worship, as for me and my house it's amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

TATIME:
Though i may not be sound in English grammar but i surely know that there's no difference between these two words TOLERATE and ALLOW.
You can speak for the world and their dos and donts but as for pure worship, there is zero tolerance for those practices mentioned in Galatians 5:19-21,that's the reason Apostle Paul could say REMOVE or DISFELLOWSHIP those practicing such from the Christian congregation! 1Corinthians 5:11-13
Hellooooooo if it's not CHRISTIANITY(Jehovah's Organization) it can never be anything close Christianity. That's why i advised you earlier that you're FREE to worship wherever you are pleased because it's obvious you can't fit in to JEHOVAH'S arrangement!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm Matthew 12:43-45
When Paul wrote to the CHRISTIAN congregation in Corinth to REMOVE the unrepentant sinner from among them, it's like he mentioned something about JUDGE.
So who are to take charge of the instructions that Apostle gave? Well Jehovah's Witnesses organization believes that it is the appointed elders in each congregation! They just need to follow STRICTLY the procedure laid down in the Bible so that the judgment is according to God's righteous standards and not to follow the worldly thinking as you would have love it to be!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm Matthew 12:43-45
When Paul wrote to the CHRISTIAN congregation in Corinth to REMOVE the unrepentant sinner from among them, it's like he mentioned something about JUDGE.
So who are to take charge of the instructions that Apostle gave? Well Jehovah's Witnesses organization believes that it is the appointed elders in each congregation! They just need to follow STRICTLY the procedure laid down in the Bible so that the judgment is according to God's righteous standards and not to follow the worldly thinking as you would have love it to be!

Crysthaniel:
Brocab
All these things you mentioned are bad in Jehovah's sight.. And of course we Jehovah's witnesses are obligated to abstain from them.. We take to the heart the account of Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
So if any one is doing bad thing be it an elder to anybody and he did not open up his sins, Jehovah is watching..

brodalokie:


Elders that are state politicians or strictly Bible oriented? If the former then who is jehovah?
I just want to see the relationship between church and state

OneJ:


Your education is useless to U & your society. Confirmed OLODO & SERIAL LIAR on Naira land.

That's partly why your sawdust brain (coupled with your feeding on gospel junk from your pastorpreneurs) can't grasp the truth that JWs have been sharing on this thread.
JWs are probably the best educated group of people on planet earth.
Jehovah & His son, Jesus Christ teaches us to benefit ourselves with everlasting life in view.

zodiakzax:



..... bunch of idiots.... .... uneducated stupid pagans ..... ..how will you understand the bible when you are so dumb like an ostrich..

Crysthaniel:

You know the answer to what you ask nah..

Crysthaniel:

Make we take am easy naah.. No body dumb
Ostrich sef no dumb naah..

Crysthaniel:

Make we take am easy naah.. No body dumb
Ostrich sef no dumb naah..

Hairyrapunzel:

Shame did not even allow quote the preceding verse john 10:33. 33
We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”. So that you don't enter the Jews their mind. Lol

Why didn't you quote verse 33? You didn't because in that verse the Jews gave the reason for stoning Jesus Christ

brodalokie:


Who was His Father between God the Father and God the Holy Spirit?

Matthew 1:18 - Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise : When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with CHILD of the Holy Ghost.

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.