Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,067 members, 7,814,684 topics. Date: Wednesday, 01 May 2024 at 05:25 PM

Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? - Religion (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? (13231 Views)

My Church Bazaar Is Mega Wealth, Stay Away If You Won’t Donate – Father Mbaka / Your Opinion Is Needed. / What Is Your Take On Harvest And Bazaar? (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by henrybomb(m): 11:01am On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


I know most of them are in hell
So you will be in heaven?
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by achimsemrys(m): 11:07am On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


I know most of them are in hell

shut up ur mouth and say what you know..
so called Christian attacking Christian..
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by bigzonebet5009: 11:11am On Dec 16, 2018
DON'T BE LEFT OUT
WHY COMPLAINING OF MONEY
WHILE U CAN STAY AT HOME ND MAKE MILLION UNDER A Month
NOBODY IS BORN TO BE A FAILURE IN LIFE
YOU CAN MAKE IT TOO
FOR YOU TO BE RICH OR POOR IS IN YOUR HANDS

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Reference(m): 11:16am On Dec 16, 2018
Everyone defending his own patch as the civil war between the traditional and the modern church rages on....
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by karlboss: 11:19am On Dec 16, 2018
tstx:

Don't forget to share

Ok
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by scarybeeeee: 11:27am On Dec 16, 2018
How beautiful it looks when "christians" gather together to insult,condemn,judge and disgrace themselves in the name of trying to sound intelligent or highly spiritual. undecided
Salvation is personal so let me face front and run my race.
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Lomprico2: 11:39am On Dec 16, 2018
Donald95:
Matthew 21:12-13 New International Version (NIV)


12:Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

13: “It is written,” he said to them,
“‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.

Also read Mark 11:15-17; and Luke 19:45-46 for clarification.

I think modern day Christianity rebranded buying and selling in the holy temple of God and called it Bazaar.


What do you think??

All the money recovered still goes back to the church's purse. Not to individuals pockets.
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Romanus123: 11:43am On Dec 16, 2018
Jesus called it "Den of Robbers" because those buying and selling were not done in a proper way. the marketing were characterized by cheating and unholy, that's why Jesus destroyed it.
Now, before you judge bazaar, ask yourself these question?
which people are selling these?
who are the beneficiaries of the proceeds made from these products they sell in the church?
is there any difference between buying something in the church bazaar and buying in the market?
then i tell you this, all the money raised during harvest and bazaar are for the benefit of the church, either to raise the church building or to pay workers in the church and also to feed the priest (Catholic).
At this juncture, i think bazaar in the church when done in a proper way is not against the scripture.

1 Like

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by tstx(m): 11:47am On Dec 16, 2018
karlboss:


Very informative!

I just checked it out and it's true. It could also be that the Bible we use today it's edited to control us.

Whenever any conqueror conquer any particular tribe or region he always remove their culture and ways of life and instill his own. That's the best way to control people.

Whenever the Muslim, Christian, Buddhist,hindu,shinto and the rest pray they get answers to their prayers that's why they can fight and die for their religion.
Why do all our prayers get answered? Is it because there is a God in heaven or we are talking to our higher self because we create our own reality. It could be that religion is a scam and actually man is god but we would die like men. Psalm 82 vs 6

Whenever we pray we are talking to our higher self our genius- genie-in-us ( the magic inside us) and our wish must happen.

I'm certain things were omitted in the bible we use today.. I'm also certain some stories were made up that's why some sound far fetched.


As to what you said about conquerors removing the culture of the conquered and instilling theirs... It is the absolute truth.

Religion is nothing but a tool in the arsenal of cultural superiority. And we Africans totally lost the war.
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by xynerise: 11:59am On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


I know most of them are in hell

Wow! Heaven's Gateman, so you decide who will enter heaven or not?

2 Likes

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by bionixs: 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2018
FrMbaka:
PASTORS BE LIKE
your head no con correct to the level everything go be pastor. wetin concern pastor with bazaar? you don dey mad small small and you no know am
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Adasun(m): 12:26pm On Dec 16, 2018
Kylekent59:
It is not right my brother. It is stealing, how can you buy what is sold for 5k in the market for 10k in bazaar?

Isn't that daylight robbery using church as a cover up?



Even Jesus said it,"many will say, lord we eat with you and drank with you but I will say I do not know you."

Many Christians know the truth but churches and its leaders will turn the table around telling them there is nothing wrong.



Oh that yeh who wouldn't listen harden not your heart.
bunch of u who are not in the system would always try to redicule what u knw not.



Don't they also buy costly goods cheap in bazaar? If u haven't seen, i have seen a bunch.
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by karlboss: 12:42pm On Dec 16, 2018
tstx:


I'm certain things were omitted in the bible we use today.. I'm also certain some stories were made up that's why some sound far fetched.


As to what you said about conquerors removing the culture of the conquered and instilling theirs... It is the absolute truth.

Religion is nothing but a tool in the arsenal of cultural identity. And we Africans totally lost the war.



There is this ancient version of the old testament called the book of jasher. Joshua mentioned it in Joshua 10 vs 13.

Also mentioned in 2samuel 1vs10. When you read that book you would see biblical story from a different angle
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 12:44pm On Dec 16, 2018
Fr. Ubenedictus here should have the appropriate reason for the Bazaar thing in Catholic church
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 12:53pm On Dec 16, 2018
The question is whether it is scriptural or not not why your church does it
About the bolded, you know you are lying ..I have been a Catholic long before you were born ....when a man engages in competitive bidding for tubers of ham and at the end , when he out bids the others, it is left to him to decide what or how his purchase is used. He either carries it to his car and home or gives it out.

Bazaar is business u less you don't know the meaning of business ..any venture that brings profit is business and for Bazaar , every item comes to the church free of any cost and whatever amount is realised is profit


It it the ultimate brainwashing because the items are not sold to the first bidder nor the second. The auctioneer keeps at it running one person to the others and using words to harass them into making higher bids .


Fran6ik:
Bazaar is a direct way of sourcing funds for the church through auctioning of items gifted to the church.
-most bazaar sales items are gifted to the poor in the areana.
-Bazaar is not a brainwashing sourcing of fund.
-Bazaar is not business or buying and selling.

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by MrGerald(m): 12:57pm On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


I know most of them are in hell
Pray for your soul and God's mercy because you're the one I see heading to hell
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 12:58pm On Dec 16, 2018
The motive is secondary. Is it scriptural . That shouldn't be difficult to answer, scripturally.
Only Ubenedictus can call himself a Catholic
The rest of you are ignoramuses ...even the bulletin you don't read, you use it as hand fans and go home

asuustrike1:

Have you looked at the motive behind it? The fund raised are they using it for the church or for personal gain?. These are what you should ask instead of quoting one scriptures to drive a point without looking at the motive behind it. Aren't many Pentecostal churches involved in similar action like sowing of seed and other offerings raised during church programs?
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by murphyibiam15(m): 12:59pm On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


I know most of them are in hell
shut up...your Pastors are scammers...nothing wrong with bazaar
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by murphyibiam15(m): 1:00pm On Dec 16, 2018
Nodogragra4me:
The motive is secondary. Is it scriptural . That shouldn't be difficult to answer, scripturally.
Only Ubenedictus can call himself a Catholic
The rest of you are ignoramuses ...even the bulletin you don't read, you use it as hand fans and go home

so the scamming biz of your Pastors are scriptural? tell me new something
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 1:06pm On Dec 16, 2018
It is in the church that they serve them the beer or in the private resident of the member


johnmba:


My inlaw that attends winners said during birthday parties/ceremonies , members stay in the parlor where they are served with fruit and juice while some go inside to arrange themselves with beer and co.

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 1:14pm On Dec 16, 2018
That is not an intelligent way of discussing. You should mention oneof the scamming business and then I take it from there ... generalisation is the absence of solid truth



murphyibiam15:

so the scamming biz of your Pastors are scriptural? tell me new something
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by emmykk(m): 1:22pm On Dec 16, 2018
Donald95:
Matthew 21:12-13 New International Version (NIV)


12:Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

13: “It is written,” he said to them,
“‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.

Also read Mark 11:15-17; and Luke 19:45-46 for clarification.

I think modern day Christianity rebranded buying and selling in the holy temple of God and called it Bazaar.


What do you think??


The portion of the bible you quoted is a regular situation in Jesus's time hence it stand condemn, but bazaar is once a year.

Bazaar is a means of raising money for the church by selling things offered as Thanksgiving. Bazaar sales are normally bid purchase for income generation. And
it is not a sin or evil or exactly what Jesus condemn.


In Jesus's time things use as sacrifice like turtle doves,candles,plus other items of sacrifice are usually sold above market price within the church premises by traders.. Such that those who wanted to buy those item under emergency or for convenience are charged higher because the user can't either find it else where or will take time to get it.


Is like going to Tb Joshua church and there was a demand for olive oil, then because you didn't get ready and will take you longer time to get it you just buy under pressure from traders there. And these traders are not even church members . And the profit money is for the traders not for the church.

This is what Jesus fought against and not a bazaar organized once a year to raise money for the church.


Research before making Judgement.if selling (bazaar) in church is that bad how about selling spiritual books written by pastors in church.

3 Likes

Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by murphyibiam15(m): 1:57pm On Dec 16, 2018
Nodogragra4me:
That is not an intelligent way of discussing. You should mention oneof the scamming business and then I take it from there ... generalisation is the absence of solid truth



the scamming biz of your Pastors is well known to all Tom, dick and Harry
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by deking2007(m): 2:11pm On Dec 16, 2018
I have seen a lot of stories of embezzlement coming out of a Bazaar and how some people lobbied to be in the bazaar committee.
asuustrike1:

Have you looked at the motive behind it? The fund raised are they using it for the church or for personal gain?. These are what you should ask instead of quoting one scriptures to drive a point without looking at the motive behind it. Aren't many Pentecostal churches involved in similar action like sowing of seed and other offerings raised during church programs?
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 2:40pm On Dec 16, 2018
You dey make me laugh. For your mind Na you don report your research findings


Only you say the sales in Jesus times no be church get am .. which means say if Na church get am Jesus for no provoke .... Na you dey ask weda the book wey church dey sell no be selling things be dat.

The Bible says , buy the truth and sell it not.

Bazaar is not the truth .. it is a man made gimmick for helping God solve his problem which his unscriptural. God already appointed ways and means to finance his agenda but because of oversabi you criticise those ways , though many of church branches don dey market them aggressively, couple with the fact say majority of una members no dey give unless dem go announce the giving make every body know say dem ....be d real 'pillar' for the church ..... self glorification.


Sales of books and Bazaar no be same thing.... Books Na for edification. I am a personal testified to the works of spiritual books. Bazaar no get spiritual value ...competition with another man for who get mind to announce a higher bid now get value ...some no dey even pay afterwards.


emmykk:



The portion of the bible you quoted is a regular situation in Jesus's time hence it stand condemn, but bazaar is once a year.

Bazaar is a means of raising money for the church by selling things offered as Thanksgiving. Bazaar sales are normally bid purchase for income generation. And
it is not a sin or evil or exactly what Jesus condemn.


In Jesus's time things use as sacrifice like turtle doves,candles,plus other items of sacrifice are usually sold above market price within the church premises by traders.. Such that those who wanted to buy those item under emergency or for convenience are charged higher because the user can't either find it else where or will take time to get it.


Is like going to Tb Joshua church and there was a demand for olive oil, then because you didn't get ready and will take you longer time to get it you just buy under pressure from traders there. And these traders are not even church members . And the profit money is for the traders not for the church.

This is what Jesus fought against and not a bazaar organized once a year to raise money for the church.


Research before making Judgement.if selling (bazaar) in church is that bad how about selling spiritual books written by pastors in church.
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by LogicStatement: 2:49pm On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


[b] I know most of them are in hell [\b]
Your god showed you the revelation I guess loooooooooooooooool
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 16, 2018
Nodogragra4me:
The motive is secondary. Is it scriptural . That shouldn't be difficult to answer, scripturally.
Only Ubenedictus can call himself a Catholic
The rest of you are ignoramuses ...even the bulletin you don't read, you use it as hand fans and go home

What can kind of mumuism and ignorant argument are you making? Do I look like a Catholic to you? undecided undecided undecided. Talking about scriptures how many of your kind practice the scriptures to the latter?. Better mind the way you type
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nobody: 4:11pm On Dec 16, 2018
[s]The Bible says , buy the truth and sell it not.

Bazaar is not the truth .. it is a man made gimmick for helping God solve his problem which his unscriptural. God already appointed ways and means to finance his agenda but because of oversabi you criticise those ways , though many of church branches don dey market them aggressively, couple with the fact say majority of una members no dey give unless dem go announce the giving make every body know say dem ....be d real 'pillar' for the church ..... self glorification.[/s]
All you said doesn't differentiate bazaar sales from sales of Christian literatures, anointing oil, DVD, wrist band among others.


Sales of books and Bazaar no be same thing.... Books Na for edification. I am a personal testified to the works of spiritual books. Bazaar no get spiritual value ...competition with another man for who get mind to announce a higher bid now get value ...some no dey even pay afterwards.
Sales is sales whether bazaar or not bazaar stop twisting your analysis because you are contradicting yourself.
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nodogragra4me(m): 4:30pm On Dec 16, 2018
How can I look at what is not in front of me. However and more importantly, there is no way of telling who is a Catholic by looks. Only your contribution would make me assume you to be either one or not and from your contribution, you came across as one.



asuustrike1:

What can kind of mumuism and ignorant argument are you making? Do I look like a Catholic to you? undecided undecided undecided. Talking about scriptures how many of your kind practice the scriptures to the latter?. Better mind the way you type
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by Nobody: 4:40pm On Dec 16, 2018
Nodogragra4me:
How can I look at what is not in front of me. However and more importantly, there is no way of telling who is a Catholic by looks. Only your contribution would make me assume you to be either one or not and from your contribution, you came across as one.



Unfortunately am not a Catholic. My experience with the scriptures has though me to look beyond Christian denomination because there is no church in heaven. When Christ comes,he will judge the world and the church ( not a particular denomination as some people try to pain good or bad)
Re: Opinion: Is Bazaar In The House Of The Lord Right? by IkUKU01(m): 5:16pm On Dec 16, 2018
Obaofusa:
Catholic practices heretics and abominations from serving image and bazar all this never recorded in Bible


I know most of them are in hell
mumu

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply)

Winners Chapel In Ilorin Burnt Down Over Land Dispute / Doctrines And Services Of Celestial Church Of Christ / Clean Jokes

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 72
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.