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Deepthoughts:
I'm not against Christmas celebrations but my questions is what is the evidence or proof that Jesus was born on 25 of December?, because this date has been question by many authorities,is there no Jewish records to show emphatically when Jesus was born?,from the Islamic aspect,is there a quranic evidence to the actual birthday of anabi Isa?

You keep beating a dead horse. How many times do we have to tell you we know that. You won’t stop asking that same question because that’s what fit your narrative.

Pope Julius I officially declared that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated on the 25th December. Mind the word “would be celebrated “. Not that it declared that that’s the actual date. Russian orthodox Christians celebrate it in January I think 6th.

I agree with Akpororo Freeze should be changed to a wall gecko. Nuisance Romanian

alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on front page this afternoon being Christmas day and it's from an Instagram post of Daddy Freeze, a well known Antichrist. This post attacks the celebration of Christmas. According to him, it is Nimrod Christians are celebrating when they celebrate Christmas. He went on to ask some questions which can be seen in his quote below.



First and foremost, Daddy Freeze put up a shallow attack on Christmas by saying it is Nimrod that is celebrated on that day. The problem with him is that he and his anti-Christmas bandwagon believe Nimrod is a god and that December 25th was dedicated to him. Where did they get their information from? They got it from Jewish fables, writings from historians who never existed thousand years close to when Nimrod existed. Yet they gullibly believe every junk article that says Nimrod is a god.

Let's allow the Bible tell us who Nimrod was, and since the Bible is our final authority on issues, every other source about Nimrod will be discarded.

Genesis 10:8-9
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.


As seen above, the Bible didn't record anything bad about Nimrod because being a mighty hunter before God is not a bad description of a person. However, another story about Nimrod can be found in Jewish Talmud written in the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after the New Testament had been in circulation. Now imagine how far the Talmud is to the Old Testament which contains the story of Nimrod and written just shortly after his time.

The Talmud is where you will find stories of how Nimrod was a god who married his mother and gave birth to a son Tamuz who also his reincarnation... blah blah blah. Those are all fables written thousands of years after Nimrod died and by people who didn't exist during his days.

Now that it is established that it is the Jewish Talmud which said Nimrod was a god, cam we now go ahead and believe it over the Bible which didn't mention Nimrod to be a god? No. We are to stay away from the book called Talmud because there is nothing Holy Spirit about it. It is all filled with Jewish fables which the Bible says we should stay away from.

Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

We are not to take any Jewish book serious other than the Bible which is enough for us. The Jews are Antichrist, they killed Jesus and are still trying to kill his name today. They are Antichrist. because they reject Jesus as the son of God. Yet, some one wants me to stop celebrating Christmas because of an information he got from people who hate Jesus.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

Daddy Freeze says it is Nimrod we are celebrating on Christmas day. Before you believe the lies out of the mouth of that liar, kindly go out there and ask people currently celebrating Christmas if it is Nimrod they are celebrating. They will tell you it is Jesus they are celebrating because he is the reason for the season. It is not Nimrod's name they see when they read about Jesus birth in Luke 2. You will hardly find anyone who knows Nimrod. So to sit somewhere and say Christians are celebrating nimrod is the height of deceit.

Now, to the questions he asked. But before I answered them, I want us to all agree that whatever the Bible doesn't warm against is not a sin nor a wrong thing. Example is the Bible not warning against or supporting the use of mobile phones. It will be silly for someone to now say the use of mobile phones is wrong. Now, to his questions.

1. Did Christ ask us to celebrate his birthday?

Two can play that game. Did Christ tell us NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. This clearly means there is nothing wrong of we chose to celebrate his birthday. Did Christ tell is to celebrate his resurrection? The answer is No, but we all do because we appreciate his effort in dying for our sins and conquering death by resurrecting. Same thing with his birth which we appreciate because we know he came to save us from our sins.

2 Did the discipleship apostles ask us to celebrate his Birthday?

Did they ask is NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. So it is not a sin if we do. Anyone saying we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Jesus is simply trying to speak when the disciples, apostles, the Bible and even Jesus himself didn't speak. Those are our authority, and since they in no way told us not to celebrate our Lord and Savior, then no one should stop us.

3. Did the Bible or Torah instruct us to celebrate his birthday?

Did they instruct us NOT to? The answer is no. So Freeze has no case here also. Let's say for example, the Bible doesn't say anything about homosexuals, no one will see it as a sin. So therefore, as the bi me didn't say anything against celebrating the birth of Jesus, then it is no sin if we do so.

4. So where did we get this nonsense from?

First and foremost, it is not nonsense celebrating the birth of Jesus. Many have come to the knowledge of Jesus through Christmas. Muslims and Atheists are celebrating Christmas as we speak and hey exposed to hearing ore about the Savior our Lord Jesus. The whole world stands at attention on Christmas day. Even unbelievers have no choice but to reckon with the day. Families get reunited and loved ones share gifts. Christmas is the biggest holiday which the gate of hell cannot prevail over.

Now, to his question which is where we got Christmas from. We got it from the Holy angels who left heaven and came to earth to rejoice in the sky at the news of the birth of Jesus. It was a joyful day so much that the wicked people of those days tried to kill baby Jesus. Those wicked people are still operating today trying to kill Christmas which is a day the name Jesus sounds so loud that it echoes in all corners of the world.

We Christians decided to celebrate that day because God has given us power to bind and lose one earth anything we want.

Mathew 18:18
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We have bound December 25th as the day for the celebration of the north of Jesus. Nothing Satan and hell cam do against it.

To know more about how the lies of anti-christmas agents, read the below link which shows how they get Busted.

https://www.nairaland.com/4919820/dont-let-anyone-lie-christmas

If only you can use this same zeal and energy to defend and propergate you own almighty given African religion and traditions, perhaps Africa too would be envied around the world..!!

If you are asked about your traditions and believes now...I doubt If you know much or anything...!!

A soul is always lost when he or she lost his or her root..they be only groping in darkness with little or no progress..!!!

I bet the response I would be getting is African believes/religion is archaic, idol worshipping,barbaric and all that...but same people calling the African believe barbaric goes to church every now and then with the hope of eating the flesh of their Jesus and drinking his blood...symbolic or not that's simply ritualistic cannibalism and vampirism in full glare..!!

Let us al take time to ponder why the African problem seems never to end and defy solution...!!!

And yes, the celebration of Christmas is purely an European thing culled from their own traditional believes...they substitute characters and launder the character in their new created Christian religion...!!

Peace...!!!

Permission to post this on my facebook?

KingOfAmebo:
What point? You made zero points...I got tired of your trash midway.

Meanwhile, i am still waiting for you to answer these questions:


1. Show us the specific verse in the Bible that instructs Christians to celebrate Jesus's birthday. Don't show us a verse were angles were celebrating what we don't know, we all know there are many things that can be celebrated, show us the verse that specifically talks about "Celebrating Christmas"

2. Who amongst the disciples/followers of Jesus celebrated his birthday while he was alive and after he was crucified?

3. How do they come about the date 25 December as the day Jesus was born? Whether or not the present day calendar was in use at the time Jesus was born, what calendar was in use that time and how did they arrive at the date 25 December?

4. How does father Christmas come into the picture, why is he called the "Father" Christmas of Jesus's birthday and why is it his responsibility to be sharing gifts?...Is he even in the bible?

5 How do you come about the killing of chicken on Christmas day? Is that even biblical?

alBHAGDADI i await your answers, Meanwhile...

Colossians 2:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

if you understood his article hook not be asking this petty questions

I appreciate it when people debate a topic with points rather sentiments or name calling. The OP has done a good job. Kudos !

mrAMG:
How hard is it to use google nowadays?

Why is this oga quoting bible? A simple foray into search results on google and you see the origin of Christmas.

My dear, the reason they can't and wouldn't foray into Google is explained by 2 Timothy 4:3, 4: "For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled. 4 They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncFCwoFvw_k
The opposite should not add anything to the Bible because there is a curse for it..

AroleOduduwa:
Religion is all about faith, how sure are we that Mohamed is really a prophet and not a religious fanatic.

He is prophet.

Read Deuteronomy 18;18 were he was prophesied clearly and succinctly.

mrAMG:
How hard is it to use google nowadays?

Why is this oga quoting bible? A simple foray into search results on google and you see the origin of Christmas.

Stories fabricated by Jews (people who don't believe in Christ)

alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on front page this afternoon being Christmas day and it's from an Instagram post of Daddy Freeze, a well known Antichrist. This post attacks the celebration of Christmas. According to him, it is Nimrod Christians are celebrating when they celebrate Christmas. He went on to ask some questions which can be seen in his quote below.



First and foremost, Daddy Freeze put up a shallow attack on Christmas by saying it is Nimrod that is celebrated on that day. The problem with him is that he and his anti-Christmas bandwagon believe Nimrod is a god and that December 25th was dedicated to him. Where did they get their information from? They got it from Jewish fables, writings from historians who never existed thousand years close to when Nimrod existed. Yet they gullibly believe every junk article that says Nimrod is a god.

Let's allow the Bible tell us who Nimrod was, and since the Bible is our final authority on issues, every other source about Nimrod will be discarded.

Genesis 10:8-9
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.


As seen above, the Bible didn't record anything bad about Nimrod because being a mighty hunter before God is not a bad description of a person. However, another story about Nimrod can be found in Jewish Talmud written in the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after the New Testament had been in circulation. Now imagine how far the Talmud is to the Old Testament which contains the story of Nimrod and written just shortly after his time.

The Talmud is where you will find stories of how Nimrod was a god who married his mother and gave birth to a son Tamuz who also his reincarnation... blah blah blah. Those are all fables written thousands of years after Nimrod died and by people who didn't exist during his days.

Now that it is established that it is the Jewish Talmud which said Nimrod was a god, cam we now go ahead and believe it over the Bible which didn't mention Nimrod to be a god? No. We are to stay away from the book called Talmud because there is nothing Holy Spirit about it. It is all filled with Jewish fables which the Bible says we should stay away from.

Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

We are not to take any Jewish book serious other than the Bible which is enough for us. The Jews are Antichrist, they killed Jesus and are still trying to kill his name today. They are Antichrist. because they reject Jesus as the son of God. Yet, some one wants me to stop celebrating Christmas because of an information he got from people who hate Jesus.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

Daddy Freeze says it is Nimrod we are celebrating on Christmas day. Before you believe the lies out of the mouth of that liar, kindly go out there and ask people currently celebrating Christmas if it is Nimrod they are celebrating. They will tell you it is Jesus they are celebrating because he is the reason for the season. It is not Nimrod's name they see when they read about Jesus birth in Luke 2. You will hardly find anyone who knows Nimrod. So to sit somewhere and say Christians are celebrating nimrod is the height of deceit.

Now, to the questions he asked. But before I answered them, I want us to all agree that whatever the Bible doesn't warm against is not a sin nor a wrong thing. Example is the Bible not warning against or supporting the use of mobile phones. It will be silly for someone to now say the use of mobile phones is wrong. Now, to his questions.

1. Did Christ ask us to celebrate his birthday?

Two can play that game. Did Christ tell us NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. This clearly means there is nothing wrong of we chose to celebrate his birthday. Did Christ tell is to celebrate his resurrection? The answer is No, but we all do because we appreciate his effort in dying for our sins and conquering death by resurrecting. Same thing with his birth which we appreciate because we know he came to save us from our sins.

2 Did the discipleship apostles ask us to celebrate his Birthday?

Did they ask is NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. So it is not a sin if we do. Anyone saying we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Jesus is simply trying to speak when the disciples, apostles, the Bible and even Jesus himself didn't speak. Those are our authority, and since they in no way told us not to celebrate our Lord and Savior, then no one should stop us.

3. Did the Bible or Torah instruct us to celebrate his birthday?

Did they instruct us NOT to? The answer is no. So Freeze has no case here also. Let's say for example, the Bible doesn't say anything about homosexuals, no one will see it as a sin. So therefore, as the bi me didn't say anything against celebrating the birth of Jesus, then it is no sin if we do so.

4. So where did we get this nonsense from?

First and foremost, it is not nonsense celebrating the birth of Jesus. Many have come to the knowledge of Jesus through Christmas. Muslims and Atheists are celebrating Christmas as we speak and hey exposed to hearing ore about the Savior our Lord Jesus. The whole world stands at attention on Christmas day. Even unbelievers have no choice but to reckon with the day. Families get reunited and loved ones share gifts. Christmas is the biggest holiday which the gate of hell cannot prevail over.

Now, to his question which is where we got Christmas from. We got it from the Holy angels who left heaven and came to earth to rejoice in the sky at the news of the birth of Jesus. It was a joyful day so much that the wicked people of those days tried to kill baby Jesus. Those wicked people are still operating today trying to kill Christmas which is a day the name Jesus sounds so loud that it echoes in all corners of the world.

We Christians decided to celebrate that day because God has given us power to bind and lose one earth anything we want.

Mathew 18:18
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We have bound December 25th as the day for the celebration of the north of Jesus. Nothing Satan and hell cam do against it.

To know more about how the lies of anti-christmas agents, read the below link which shows how they get Busted.

https://www.nairaland.com/4919820/dont-let-anyone-lie-christmas

Finally someone got the time and zeal to respond to daddy freeze and his mumu followers. Abeg continue to give these Anti-Christs headache. I love it.

I'm tired of this religion

Diso60090:
Enter house � you are bored

Your brain is bored...

viceddy95:
Your brain is bored...

Enter house � sadist

Diso60090:
Enter house � sadist

Who do you think is a sadist between us,,,frustrated soul...

Whimsical Christians like alBaghdadi and his band of Nairaland cheerleaders will be the only ones to buy this drivel of an article as a good claim to refute the claim of those who say Christmas is paganism garbed in Christian outfit.

You can argue from now till they kingdom come, but one thing for sure is, 25th December to commemorate Jesus's birth is a false date many gullible and intelligent people have bought in the name of celebration..

The point is not if Jesus or his disciples not tell anyone to celebrate his birthday or anything of that sort.
Because birthday itself was known even during he time of Jesus Christ according to the bible, how?
Do you remember King Herod who ordered that John the Baptist be beheaded on the request of a concubine(I can't recall her name now) .And we all know from biblical records that John the Baptist was a contemporary of Jesus (peace be upon them ).
And we can recall(for those who know their bible) that during the time of King Herod 's reign he was the second person after Pharoah as recorded to have celebrated his birthday.
So, if birthday celebration was for Christians or for the supposed followers of Christ Jesus would have seize such auspicious moment in history to make sure he was 'remembered' or "celebrated. "
However the question is, who are you people imitating ;Jesus or the pagans like the two kings mentioned above known for their paganism.
Who are you people really imitating?

You people claim to be Christ followers or christ-like yet you are far away from his message and teachings .

His right.

The only feast/celebration Christians are to observe, is the lords supper. Instituted by Christ himself in remembrance of him!!! 1cor 11:24. Luke 22:19.

Bethor:
If only you can use this same zeal and energy to defend and propergate you own almighty given African religion and traditions, perhaps Africa too would be envied around the world..!!

If you are asked about your traditions and believes now...I doubt If you know much or anything...!!

A soul is always lost when he or she lost his or her root..they be only groping in darkness with little or no progress..!!!

I bet the response I would be getting is African believes/religion is archaic, idol worshipping,barbaric and all that...but same people calling the African believe barbaric goes to church every now and then with the hope of eating the flesh of their Jesus and drinking his blood...symbolic or not that's simply ritualistic cannibalism and vampirism in full glare..!!

Let us al take time to ponder why the African problem seems never to end and defy solution...!!!

And yes, the celebration of Christmas is purely an European thing culled from their own traditional believes...they substitute characters and launder the character in their new created Christian religion...!!

Peace...!!!

100% on point,Follow Follow Jesus Chriist oyibo?that is why the crusaders came with their boats from across the mighty ocean and traded them like herds for 460 years,black man know yourself.

alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on front page this afternoon being Christmas day and it's from an Instagram post of Daddy Freeze, a well known Antichrist. This post attacks the celebration of Christmas. According to him, it is Nimrod Christians are celebrating when they celebrate Christmas. He went on to ask some questions which can be seen in his quote below.



First and foremost, Daddy Freeze put up a shallow attack on Christmas by saying it is Nimrod that is celebrated on that day. The problem with him is that he and his anti-Christmas bandwagon believe Nimrod is a god and that December 25th was dedicated to him. Where did they get their information from? They got it from Jewish fables, writings from historians who never existed thousand years close to when Nimrod existed. Yet they gullibly believe every junk article that says Nimrod is a god.

Let's allow the Bible tell us who Nimrod was, and since the Bible is our final authority on issues, every other source about Nimrod will be discarded.

Genesis 10:8-9
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.


As seen above, the Bible didn't record anything bad about Nimrod because being a mighty hunter before God is not a bad description of a person. However, another story about Nimrod can be found in Jewish Talmud written in the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after the New Testament had been in circulation. Now imagine how far the Talmud is to the Old Testament which contains the story of Nimrod and written just shortly after his time.

The Talmud is where you will find stories of how Nimrod was a god who married his mother and gave birth to a son Tamuz who also his reincarnation... blah blah blah. Those are all fables written thousands of years after Nimrod died and by people who didn't exist during his days.

Now that it is established that it is the Jewish Talmud which said Nimrod was a god, cam we now go ahead and believe it over the Bible which didn't mention Nimrod to be a god? No. We are to stay away from the book called Talmud because there is nothing Holy Spirit about it. It is all filled with Jewish fables which the Bible says we should stay away from.

Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

We are not to take any Jewish book serious other than the Bible which is enough for us. The Jews are Antichrist, they killed Jesus and are still trying to kill his name today. They are Antichrist. because they reject Jesus as the son of God. Yet, some one wants me to stop celebrating Christmas because of an information he got from people who hate Jesus.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

Daddy Freeze says it is Nimrod we are celebrating on Christmas day. Before you believe the lies out of the mouth of that liar, kindly go out there and ask people currently celebrating Christmas if it is Nimrod they are celebrating. They will tell you it is Jesus they are celebrating because he is the reason for the season. It is not Nimrod's name they see when they read about Jesus birth in Luke 2. You will hardly find anyone who knows Nimrod. So to sit somewhere and say Christians are celebrating nimrod is the height of deceit.

Now, to the questions he asked. But before I answered them, I want us to all agree that whatever the Bible doesn't warm against is not a sin nor a wrong thing. Example is the Bible not warning against or supporting the use of mobile phones. It will be silly for someone to now say the use of mobile phones is wrong. Now, to his questions.

1. Did Christ ask us to celebrate his birthday?

Two can play that game. Did Christ tell us NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. This clearly means there is nothing wrong of we chose to celebrate his birthday. Did Christ tell is to celebrate his resurrection? The answer is No, but we all do because we appreciate his effort in dying for our sins and conquering death by resurrecting. Same thing with his birth which we appreciate because we know he came to save us from our sins.

2 Did the discipleship apostles ask us to celebrate his Birthday?

Did they ask is NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. So it is not a sin if we do. Anyone saying we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Jesus is simply trying to speak when the disciples, apostles, the Bible and even Jesus himself didn't speak. Those are our authority, and since they in no way told us not to celebrate our Lord and Savior, then no one should stop us.

3. Did the Bible or Torah instruct us to celebrate his birthday?

Did they instruct us NOT to? The answer is no. So Freeze has no case here also. Let's say for example, the Bible doesn't say anything about homosexuals, no one will see it as a sin. So therefore, as the bi me didn't say anything against celebrating the birth of Jesus, then it is no sin if we do so.

4. So where did we get this nonsense from?

First and foremost, it is not nonsense celebrating the birth of Jesus. Many have come to the knowledge of Jesus through Christmas. Muslims and Atheists are celebrating Christmas as we speak and hey exposed to hearing ore about the Savior our Lord Jesus. The whole world stands at attention on Christmas day. Even unbelievers have no choice but to reckon with the day. Families get reunited and loved ones share gifts. Christmas is the biggest holiday which the gate of hell cannot prevail over.

Now, to his question which is where we got Christmas from. We got it from the Holy angels who left heaven and came to earth to rejoice in the sky at the news of the birth of Jesus. It was a joyful day so much that the wicked people of those days tried to kill baby Jesus. Those wicked people are still operating today trying to kill Christmas which is a day the name Jesus sounds so loud that it echoes in all corners of the world.

We Christians decided to celebrate that day because God has given us power to bind and lose one earth anything we want.

Mathew 18:18
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We have bound December 25th as the day for the celebration of the north of Jesus. Nothing Satan and hell cam do against it.

To know more about how the lies of anti-christmas agents, read the below link which shows how they get Busted.

https://www.nairaland.com/4919820/dont-let-anyone-lie-christmas

No need to respond, cuz in ur last Tithe thread, u proved that u are quite an empty fellow

REFERENCE WORK TO BIRTHDAYS The Lore of Birthdays (New York, 1952) by Ralph and Adelin Linton “Originally the idea [of birthday greetings and wishes for happiness] was rooted in magic. The working of spells for good and evil is the chief usage of witchcraft. One is especially susceptible to such spells on his birthday, as one’s personal spirits are about at that time. Birthday greetings have power for good or ill because one is closer to the spirit world on this day. Good wishes bring good fortune, but the reverse is also true, so one should avoid enemies on one’s birthday and be surrounded only by well-wishers. ‘Happy birthday’ and ‘Many happy returns of the day’ are the traditional greetings” The giving of birthday gifts is a custom associated with the offering of sacrifices to pagan gods on their birthdays. Certainly the custom was linked with the same superstitions that formed the background for birthday greetings. “The exchange of presents… is associated with the importance of ingratiating good and evil fairies… on their or our birthdays” The traditional birthday cake and candles also have their origin in ancient pagan idol worship. The ancients believed that the fire of candles had magical properties. They offered prayers and made wishes to be carried to the gods on the flames of the candles. Thus we still have the widely practiced birthday custom of making a wish, then blowing out the candles. The Greeks celebrated the birthday of their moon goddess, Artemis, with cakes adorned with lighted candles... The Greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or daemon who attended his birth and watched over him in life. This spirit had a mystic relation with the god on whose birthday the individual was born. The Romans also subscribed to this idea. . . . This notion was carried down in human belief and is reflected in the guardian angel, the fairy godmother and the patron saint. . . . The custom of lighted candles on the cakes started with the Greeks. . . . Honey cakes round as the moon and lit with tapers were placed on the temple altars of [Artemis]. . . . Birthday candles, in folk belief, are endowed with special magic for granting wishes. . . . Lighted tapers and sacrificial fires have had a special mystic significance ever since man first set up altars to his gods. The birthday candles are thus an honor and tribute to the birthday child and bring good fortune...” Herodotus, Persian Wars, Book II, ch. 82 “The Egyptians… discovered to which of the gods each month and day is sacred; and found out from the day of a man’s birth, what he will meet with in the course of his life, and how he will end his days, and what sort of man he will be” Wikipedia. Birthdays. July 12, 2007 version. It is thought that the large-scale celebration of birthdays in Europe began with the cult of Mithras, which originated in Persia but was spread by soldiers throughout the Roman Empire. Before this, such celebrations were not common; and, hence, practices from other contexts such as the Saturnalia were adapted for birthdays. “Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess.” Encyclopedia Judaic (vol. iv, p. 1054) “The celebration of birthdays is unknown in traditional Jewish ritual” (vol.4, p.1054) Ante-Nicene-Fathers Vol-9-p669 For Herod having laid hold on John bound him and put him in prison, not daring to slay him outright and to take away the prophetic word from the people…And up to this point I think that the movements of the people of the Jews, which seem to be according to the law, were nothing else than the movements of the daughter of Herodias…And on birthdays, when the lawless word reigns over them, they dance so that their movements please that word. Some one of those before us has observed what is written in Genesis about the birthday of Pharaoh, and has told that the worthless man who loves things connected with birth keeps birthday festivals; and we, taking this suggestion from him, find in no Scripture that a birthday was kept by a righteous man. The Catholic Encyclopedia states: Origen, glancing perhaps at the discreditable imperial Natalitia, asserts (in Lev. Hom. viii in Migne, P.G., XII, 495) that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday (Martindale C. Christmas, 1908). ..of all the holy people in the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners (like Pharaoh and Herod) who make great rejoicings over the day on which they were born into this world below (Origen, in Levit., Hom. VIII, in Migne P.G., XII, 495) The World Book Encyclopedia (volume 3, page 416) states: "The early Christians did not celebrate His [Christ's] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom." (“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008). “During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’.

viceddy95:
Who do you think is a sadist between us,,,frustrated soul...

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alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on front page this afternoon being Christmas day and it's from an Instagram post of Daddy Freeze, a well known Antichrist. This post attacks the celebration of Christmas. According to him, it is Nimrod Christians are celebrating when they celebrate Christmas. He went on to ask some questions which can be seen in his quote below.



First and foremost, Daddy Freeze put up a shallow attack on Christmas by saying it is Nimrod that is celebrated on that day. The problem with him is that he and his anti-Christmas bandwagon believe Nimrod is a god and that December 25th was dedicated to him. Where did they get their information from? They got it from Jewish fables, writings from historians who never existed thousand years close to when Nimrod existed. Yet they gullibly believe every junk article that says Nimrod is a god.

Let's allow the Bible tell us who Nimrod was, and since the Bible is our final authority on issues, every other source about Nimrod will be discarded.

Genesis 10:8-9
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.


As seen above, the Bible didn't record anything bad about Nimrod because being a mighty hunter before God is not a bad description of a person. However, another story about Nimrod can be found in Jewish Talmud written in the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after the New Testament had been in circulation. Now imagine how far the Talmud is to the Old Testament which contains the story of Nimrod and written just shortly after his time.

The Talmud is where you will find stories of how Nimrod was a god who married his mother and gave birth to a son Tamuz who also his reincarnation... blah blah blah. Those are all fables written thousands of years after Nimrod died and by people who didn't exist during his days.

Now that it is established that it is the Jewish Talmud which said Nimrod was a god, cam we now go ahead and believe it over the Bible which didn't mention Nimrod to be a god? No. We are to stay away from the book called Talmud because there is nothing Holy Spirit about it. It is all filled with Jewish fables which the Bible says we should stay away from.

Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

We are not to take any Jewish book serious other than the Bible which is enough for us. The Jews are Antichrist, they killed Jesus and are still trying to kill his name today. They are Antichrist. because they reject Jesus as the son of God. Yet, some one wants me to stop celebrating Christmas because of an information he got from people who hate Jesus.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

Daddy Freeze says it is Nimrod we are celebrating on Christmas day. Before you believe the lies out of the mouth of that liar, kindly go out there and ask people currently celebrating Christmas if it is Nimrod they are celebrating. They will tell you it is Jesus they are celebrating because he is the reason for the season. It is not Nimrod's name they see when they read about Jesus birth in Luke 2. You will hardly find anyone who knows Nimrod. So to sit somewhere and say Christians are celebrating nimrod is the height of deceit.

Now, to the questions he asked. But before I answered them, I want us to all agree that whatever the Bible doesn't warm against is not a sin nor a wrong thing. Example is the Bible not warning against or supporting the use of mobile phones. It will be silly for someone to now say the use of mobile phones is wrong. Now, to his questions.

1. Did Christ ask us to celebrate his birthday?

Two can play that game. Did Christ tell us NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. This clearly means there is nothing wrong of we chose to celebrate his birthday. Did Christ tell is to celebrate his resurrection? The answer is No, but we all do because we appreciate his effort in dying for our sins and conquering death by resurrecting. Same thing with his birth which we appreciate because we know he came to save us from our sins.

2 Did the discipleship apostles ask us to celebrate his Birthday?

Did they ask is NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. So it is not a sin if we do. Anyone saying we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Jesus is simply trying to speak when the disciples, apostles, the Bible and even Jesus himself didn't speak. Those are our authority, and since they in no way told us not to celebrate our Lord and Savior, then no one should stop us.

3. Did the Bible or Torah instruct us to celebrate his birthday?

Did they instruct us NOT to? The answer is no. So Freeze has no case here also. Let's say for example, the Bible doesn't say anything about homosexuals, no one will see it as a sin. So therefore, as the bi me didn't say anything against celebrating the birth of Jesus, then it is no sin if we do so.

4. So where did we get this nonsense from?

First and foremost, it is not nonsense celebrating the birth of Jesus. Many have come to the knowledge of Jesus through Christmas. Muslims and Atheists are celebrating Christmas as we speak and hey exposed to hearing ore about the Savior our Lord Jesus. The whole world stands at attention on Christmas day. Even unbelievers have no choice but to reckon with the day. Families get reunited and loved ones share gifts. Christmas is the biggest holiday which the gate of hell cannot prevail over.

Now, to his question which is where we got Christmas from. We got it from the Holy angels who left heaven and came to earth to rejoice in the sky at the news of the birth of Jesus. It was a joyful day so much that the wicked people of those days tried to kill baby Jesus. Those wicked people are still operating today trying to kill Christmas which is a day the name Jesus sounds so loud that it echoes in all corners of the world.

We Christians decided to celebrate that day because God has given us power to bind and lose one earth anything we want.

Mathew 18:18
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We have bound December 25th as the day for the celebration of the north of Jesus. Nothing Satan and hell cam do against it.

To know more about how the lies of anti-christmas agents, read the below link which shows how they get Busted.

https://www.nairaland.com/4919820/dont-let-anyone-lie-christmas

Nice one bro. Exclusive

alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on front page this afternoon being Christmas day and it's from an Instagram post of Daddy Freeze, a well known Antichrist. This post attacks the celebration of Christmas. According to him, it is Nimrod Christians are celebrating when they celebrate Christmas. He went on to ask some questions which can be seen in his quote below.



First and foremost, Daddy Freeze put up a shallow attack on Christmas by saying it is Nimrod that is celebrated on that day. The problem with him is that he and his anti-Christmas bandwagon believe Nimrod is a god and that December 25th was dedicated to him. Where did they get their information from? They got it from Jewish fables, writings from historians who never existed thousand years close to when Nimrod existed. Yet they gullibly believe every junk article that says Nimrod is a god.

Let's allow the Bible tell us who Nimrod was, and since the Bible is our final authority on issues, every other source about Nimrod will be discarded.

Genesis 10:8-9
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.


As seen above, the Bible didn't record anything bad about Nimrod because being a mighty hunter before God is not a bad description of a person. However, another story about Nimrod can be found in Jewish Talmud written in the Middle Ages, hundreds of years after the New Testament had been in circulation. Now imagine how far the Talmud is to the Old Testament which contains the story of Nimrod and written just shortly after his time.

The Talmud is where you will find stories of how Nimrod was a god who married his mother and gave birth to a son Tamuz who also his reincarnation... blah blah blah. Those are all fables written thousands of years after Nimrod died and by people who didn't exist during his days.

Now that it is established that it is the Jewish Talmud which said Nimrod was a god, cam we now go ahead and believe it over the Bible which didn't mention Nimrod to be a god? No. We are to stay away from the book called Talmud because there is nothing Holy Spirit about it. It is all filled with Jewish fables which the Bible says we should stay away from.

Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

We are not to take any Jewish book serious other than the Bible which is enough for us. The Jews are Antichrist, they killed Jesus and are still trying to kill his name today. They are Antichrist. because they reject Jesus as the son of God. Yet, some one wants me to stop celebrating Christmas because of an information he got from people who hate Jesus.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

Daddy Freeze says it is Nimrod we are celebrating on Christmas day. Before you believe the lies out of the mouth of that liar, kindly go out there and ask people currently celebrating Christmas if it is Nimrod they are celebrating. They will tell you it is Jesus they are celebrating because he is the reason for the season. It is not Nimrod's name they see when they read about Jesus birth in Luke 2. You will hardly find anyone who knows Nimrod. So to sit somewhere and say Christians are celebrating nimrod is the height of deceit.

Now, to the questions he asked. But before I answered them, I want us to all agree that whatever the Bible doesn't warm against is not a sin nor a wrong thing. Example is the Bible not warning against or supporting the use of mobile phones. It will be silly for someone to now say the use of mobile phones is wrong. Now, to his questions.

1. Did Christ ask us to celebrate his birthday?

Two can play that game. Did Christ tell us NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. This clearly means there is nothing wrong of we chose to celebrate his birthday. Did Christ tell is to celebrate his resurrection? The answer is No, but we all do because we appreciate his effort in dying for our sins and conquering death by resurrecting. Same thing with his birth which we appreciate because we know he came to save us from our sins.

2 Did the discipleship apostles ask us to celebrate his Birthday?

Did they ask is NOT to celebrate his birthday? The answer is no. So it is not a sin if we do. Anyone saying we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Jesus is simply trying to speak when the disciples, apostles, the Bible and even Jesus himself didn't speak. Those are our authority, and since they in no way told us not to celebrate our Lord and Savior, then no one should stop us.

3. Did the Bible or Torah instruct us to celebrate his birthday?

Did they instruct us NOT to? The answer is no. So Freeze has no case here also. Let's say for example, the Bible doesn't say anything about homosexuals, no one will see it as a sin. So therefore, as the bi me didn't say anything against celebrating the birth of Jesus, then it is no sin if we do so.

4. So where did we get this nonsense from?

First and foremost, it is not nonsense celebrating the birth of Jesus. Many have come to the knowledge of Jesus through Christmas. Muslims and Atheists are celebrating Christmas as we speak and hey exposed to hearing ore about the Savior our Lord Jesus. The whole world stands at attention on Christmas day. Even unbelievers have no choice but to reckon with the day. Families get reunited and loved ones share gifts. Christmas is the biggest holiday which the gate of hell cannot prevail over.

Now, to his question which is where we got Christmas from. We got it from the Holy angels who left heaven and came to earth to rejoice in the sky at the news of the birth of Jesus. It was a joyful day so much that the wicked people of those days tried to kill baby Jesus. Those wicked people are still operating today trying to kill Christmas which is a day the name Jesus sounds so loud that it echoes in all corners of the world.

We Christians decided to celebrate that day because God has given us power to bind and lose one earth anything we want.

Mathew 18:18
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

We have bound December 25th as the day for the celebration of the north of Jesus. Nothing Satan and hell cam do against it.

To know more about how the lies of anti-christmas agents, read the below link which shows how they get Busted.

https://www.nairaland.com/4919820/dont-let-anyone-lie-christmas

!!
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AroleOduduwa:
Religion is all about faith, how sure are we that Mohamed is really a prophet and not a religious fanatic.

Same goes with religion

mhizv:
His right.

The only feast/celebration Christians are to observe, is the lords supper. Instituted by Christ himself in remembrance of him!!! 1cor 11:24. Luke 22:19.

The same people that told them that the 25th is the saviors birthday are the same people today telling the world it is okay for same sex marriage that was an abomination barely 20 years ago,they have amended the scripture and hidden the secrets to keep the black sambo from the truth.

Even in Northern America you have to be politically correct, it is not Merry Christmas but Happy Holidays,a thousand years from now they will twerk it to continue their imperialism of the world order and sambos go just they follow follow,anyway what do we know other than what our masters tell us?

Agritech:
Why wasn't Marry up to 18 before she conceived Jesus?

because she mistakenly got pregnant for Joseph

PrecisionFx:
because she mistakenly got pregnant for Joseph

Who told you it was a mistake or did you study theology?did they not claim she was a virgin?ok please tell me the true story?

thesolutions:
I have never celebrated my birthday since I became an adult. But the nostalgic feeling I get from people wishing me a happy birthday makes me understand that I have been missing alot. If people can celebrate me that hasn't done much for them, then it is very foolish of you to even think of opposing them for celebrating someone you call YHVH of Host. How do even pronounce YHVH? That Jewish letter for Yahweh look like YHVH doesn't mean Yahweh can be written as YHVH. Don't let knowledge rule you but rule by knowledge.

When people resort to insults in a debate, it usually means they don't have much to stand on.
Leave emotions at the gate. Scriptural truth has no regard for your feelings. The truth does not recognise state of mind. The truth must stand regardless of whose toe is being marched. The truth has no time to pamper anyone.

Listen! I am not opposing anyone celebrating their Christmas or even birthday. Neither am I trying to impose my believe on anyone. I am not saying that the world should not celebrate their Christmas. The Father in heaven wants his saints to know that Christmas is not in honour of his Son, Yahushua the Messiah. The saints must come out from among them and be separate.

Read:

John 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me.

Yahushua the Messiah, the begotten Son of the Creator of the ends of the earth, is the Truth. When he speaks and his saints hear him, they will recognise him. That's why I said the saints will recognise the the truth when they see or hear it. The Spirit of the Father in them will recognise the truth and lead them on the right path.

A saint of YHVH of Hosts celebrates him every day. How? By obeying his Commandments. There is no other celebration the Father in heaven expects from his saints other than obedience to his Ten Commandments.

Research has shown me that YHVH - YaHVeH - is the name of the Creator. Whether I pronounce it perfectly or not is not the issue. I have no iota of doubt that this is the name of the Creator of the ends of the earth. At least I am making an effort to know the name of my Father in heaven. Seek and you shall find. It is still better than calling him the Lord. I prefer to be ruled by the wisdom and knowledge of YHVH of Hosts.

As a messenger, my duty is to deliver the message. It is entirely up to the Owner of the message to choose those to whom the message will be beneficial.

Jaynom:
Let me use your Logic. "Two can play that Game" abi? So Did Christ ask you to masturbate? I mean he didn't say we shouldn't right? Did Christ ask You not to beat your wife/girlfriend? Should you? see the disciples of Christ and the early believers were called "CHRISTIANS" for a Reason. They Did what Christ Did and they didn't do what he didn't do! You CANNOT come up with a practice because you feel it's right. The word of God is filled with instructions, blueprints, structures. You make sure your behavior fits in the instructions given by God instead you and your pastors try to bend the Bible to fit your lifestyles and what you THINK is right! Christmas is not a celebration of Christ please do your research!

Masturbation is part of sexual immorality. you want the bible to use the word masturbation first before you know its part of sexual immorality ?

Galatians 5:19-21
Now bthe works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, cdivisions, 21 envy,4 drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that dthose who do5 such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.


Colossians 3:5
Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
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You guys should stop trying to tell us what to do as am very sure even your parents that birthed you celebrated Christmas even you guys when you are young. My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ do not need to tell me to thank and appreciate him before i will do. you appreciate and celebrate whoever you want to yourself, my kid sister was born today 25th we also celebrated her. so its your choice to celebrate Christ or Celebrate demons. painfully i am yet to see any serious message or preaching about Christ to the world by this FreezShit, i have not read any of his message books or preaching to the world about Christ and and The Kingdom of God but rather Opposing anything Christianity, soon he will ask us not to go to church on Sunday self. idiotic fool!

rexwalters:
Who told you it was a mistake or did you study theology?did they not claim she was a virgin?ok please tell me the true story?

Don't u know birhina get pregnant naturally? , or are u a learner?

Diso60090:
Enter house � Muppet

Enter Bush frustrated mugu

Why is Christmas celebrated on December
25th? Most people assume that it has
always been a Christian holiday and that
it is a celebration of the birth of Jesus.
But it turns out that Jesus was not born
on December 25th. However, a whole
bunch of pagan gods were born on that
day. In fact, pagans celebrated a festival
involving a heroic supernatural figure that
visits an evergreen tree and leaves gifts
on December 25th long before Jesus was
ever born. From its early Babylonian
roots, the celebration of the birth or
“rebirth” of the sun god on December 25th
came to be celebrated under various
names all over the ancient world. You
see, the winter solstice occurs a
few days before December 25th each
year. The winter solstice is the day of the
year when daylight is the shortest. In
ancient times, December 25th was the
day each year when the day started
to become noticeably longer. Thus it was
fitting for the early pagans to designate
December 25th as the date of the birth or
the “rebirth” of the sun.
The truth is that thousands of years
before there was a “Santa Claus”, there
was another supernatural figure
who would supposedly visit a tree and
leave gifts every December 25th.
His name was Nimrod.
The celebration of December 25th goes all
the way back to ancient Babylon.
According to ancient Babylonian tradition,
Semiramis (who eventually became known
as the goddess Astarte/Asherah/
Ashtoreth/Isis/Ishtar/Easter in other
pagan religions) claimed that after the
untimely death of her son/husband
Nimrod (yes she was married to her own
son), a full grown evergreen tree sprang
up overnight from a dead tree stump.
Semiramis claimed that Nimrod would
visit that evergreen tree and leave gifts
each year on the anniversary of his birth,
which just happened to be on December
25th.
This is the true origin of the Christmas
tree.
On Bibletools.org , Mike Ford describes
this ancient pagan tradition about
Nimrod this way….
—-
After Nimrod’s death (c. 2167 BC),
Semiramis promoted the belief that he
was a god. She claimed that she saw a
full-grown evergreen tree spring out of the
roots of a dead tree stump, symbolizing
the springing forth of new life for Nimrod.
On the anniversary of his birth, she said,
Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and
leave gifts under it.
—-
On that same site, John Plunkett
described the ancient pagan myth
regarding December 25th in this manner….
—-
From many ancient writings, considerable
is learned of this man, who started the
great organized worldly apostasy from
God that has dominated this world until
now. Nimrod was so evil, it is said he
married his own mother, whose name was
Semiramis. After Nimrod’s untimely death,
his so-called mother-wife, Semiramis,
propagated the evil doctrine of the
survival of Nimrod as a spirit being. She
claimed a full-grown evergreen tree
sprang overnight from a dead tree stump,
which symbolized the springing forth unto
new life of the dead Nimrod. On each
anniversary of his birth, she claimed,
Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and
leave gifts upon it. December 25th was
the birthday of Nimrod. This is the real
origin of the Christmas tree.
—-
From this original fable peddled by
Semiramis (the “Queen of Heaven”) came
the tradition for pagans to go out to the
holy “groves” and leave gifts for Nimrod
(who later came to be worshipped as
“Baal”) at an evergreen tree.
Does that sound like a “Christian” holiday
to you?
In fact, in his classic work “The Two
Babylons”, Alexander Hislop describes the
Babylonian origins of Christmas on page
93….
“Long before the fourth century, and long
before the Christian era itself, a festival
was celebrated among the heathen, at
that precise time of the year, in honor of
the birth of the son of the Babylonian
queen of heaven. It may fairly be
presumed that, in order to conciliate the
heathen, and to swell the number of the
nominal adherents of Christianity, the
Roman Church, giving it only the name of
Christ adopted the same festival. This
tendency on the part of Christians to meet
Paganism halfway was very early
developed; and we find Tertullian, even in
his day, about the year 230, bitterly
lamenting the inconsistency of the
disciples of Christ in this respect, and
contrasting it with the strict fidelity of the
Pagans to their own superstition.”
In fact, the name “Yule” is the Babylonian
word for “infant” or “little child” as Hislop
describes on pages 93 and 94 of his
book….
“That Christmas was originally a Pagan
festival is beyond all doubt. The time of
the year, and the ceremonies, with which
it is still celebrated, prove its origin. In
Egypt, the son of Isis, the Egyptian title
for the queen of heaven, was born at this
very time, ‘about the time of the winter
solstice.’ The very name by which
Christmas is popularly known among us —
Yule-day — proves at once its pagan and
Babylonian origin. ‘Yule’ is the Chaldee
name for an ‘infant’ or ‘little child’; and as
the 25th of December was called by our
Pagan Anglo-Saxon ancestors, ‘Yule-day,’
or the ‘Child’s-day,’ and the night that
preceded it, ‘Mother-night,’ long before
they came in contact with Christianity,
that sufficiently proves its real character.
Far and wide, in the realms of Paganism,
was this birthday observed.”
So when you offer “yuletide” greetings,
you are actually acknowledging Nimrod’s
birthday.
The truth is that the pagan holiday of
“Yule” has been celebrated by the pagans
of northern Europe from late December
through early January for centuries and
centuries. Yule logs were traditionally lit
throughout northern Europe to honor the
pagan god Thor. The festival would
continue until the Yule log burned out –
which could take up to twelve days. This
is where we get the so-called “12 days of
Christmas”.
In fact, Wiccans, neo-pagans and even
many witches still celebrate Yule to this
day. Many of them think it is incredibly
funny when Christians use the pagan
word Yule. Yule is one of the most
important holidays for them. The
following excerpt was taken from a
website on witchcraft :
—–
Birthday of the Twins:
Kemetic (ancient Egyptian) holy day.
Birthday of the Twins, Heru Sa Aset and
Bast, children of Aset [Isis]. Origin of Yule
and Christmas. On Winter Solstice Asar
[Osiris] dies. Aset [Isis] with the magick
help of Nebt Het [Nephthys] creates a
Djed Pillar [artificial penis] for Her
husband and impregnates Herself. For
three full days (December 22-24) Asar lies
dead and the Twins grow in Aset’s belly.
On this day (December 25th) the Twins
are born, the reincarnation or resurrection
of Their Father. The green tree is a symbol
of the green-skinned Asar, God of fertility
and vegetation. The colored lights are
symbols of Aset, Goddess of magick and
divine light. Red, green, and white are the
traditional candle colors of Bast (this was
Her birthday alone for several thousand
years of early Kemetic history), later being
adapted to red for Aset (the color of the
Mother’s menstrual flow), green for Asar
(the color of vegetation), and white for
the Twins (the color of pure light).
—–
So where did Christmas come from?
Well, the truth is that the word
“Christmas” is not actually found
anywhere in the entire Bible.
In fact, the word “Christmas” was not
even invented until about a thousand
years after Jesus left this earth.
The Catholic Encyclopedia even admits
this….
“The word for Christmas in late Old
English is Cristes Maesse, the Mass of
Christ, first found in 1038.”
But Jesus was not even born on December
25th.
The reality is that it would have simply
been far too cold for shepherds to be out
with their sheep at night in Israel on
December 25th.
The vast majority of Christian scholars
now acknowledge this.
So when was Jesus actually born?
Based on the information we have in the
Scriptures, it appears that it is most likely
that Jesus was born in the fall. In
particular, it seems most likely that Jesus
was actually born during the Feast of
Tabernacles as the video posted below
demonstrates….
So how did December 25th come to be
celebrated by Christians?
Well, by the time the Roman Empire
legalized Christianity in the 4th century,
most of the other religions in the empire
were celebrating the birth of their gods on
December 25th.
Leading up to December 25th in ancient
Rome, a festival known as Saturnalia was
one of the biggest celebrations of the
year. Saturnalia was a festival during
which the Romans commemorated the
dedication of the temple of their god
Saturn. This holiday began on the 17th of
December and it would last for an
entire week until the 23rd of December.
Saturnalia was typically characterized by
gift-giving, feasting, singing and lots and
lots of debauchery. The priests of Saturn
would carry wreaths of evergreen boughs
in procession throughout the pagan
Roman temples.
Later on, the Romans also started holding
a festival on December 25th called Dies
Natalis Solis Invicti, which means “the
birthday of the unconquered sun.”
Basically it was a way for the empire to
consolidate all of the December 25th “sun
god” birthdays throughout the empire into
one holiday.
In the year 350 A.D., Pope Julius I
declared that the birth of Jesus would be
celebrated on December 25th from then
on. There appears to be little doubt
that Pope Julius was trying to make it as
painless as possible for pagan Romans to
convert to Catholicism.
However, the new holiday did not really
take off with Christians at first. The
widespread celebration of December 25th
by Christians did not really get
going until 378. It was apparently then
dropped in 381 and then resurrected in
400.
But the truth is that December 25th was
celebrated as the birthday of scores of
pagan gods long before it was ever
associated with Jesus.
As we discussed earlier, the celebration of
December 25th goes all the way back to
Nimrod (who eventually came to be
worshipped as Baal).
Baal worship spread throughout the
known world and provided the basis for
all other pagan religions. The following
are just some of the pagan gods that had
“birthdays” on December 25th….
Mithras
Horus
Attis
Dionysus the son of Zeus
Tammuz
Hercules
Perseus
Helios
Bacchus
Apollo
Jupiter
Sol Invictus – (The “Unconquered Sun”)
When the Roman Catholics decided to
make December 25th a “Christian holiday”
in the fourth century, they simply adopted
a long standing pagan holiday and kept
most of the same pagan traditions.
For example, the ancient Babylonian
“Christmas tree” became known as a
symbol of fertility throughout the ancient
world. The pole, balls, and tinsel (phallus,
testes, semen) represented various
aspects of male fertility, while wreaths
were always fashioned in a circle to
represent female fertility.
In “The Two Babylons”, Hislop describes
some of the ancient traditions
surrounding the Christmas tree on page
97….
“The Christmas tree, now so common
among us, was equally common in Pagan
Rome and Pagan Egypt. In Egypt that tree
was the palm-tree; in Rome it was the fir;
the palm tree denoting the Pagan
messiah, as Baal-Tamar, the fir referring
to him as Baal-Berith. The mother of
Adonis, the sun-god and great mediatorial
divinity, was mystically said to have been
changed into a tree, and when in that
state to have brought forth her divine
son. If the mother was a tree, the son
must have been recognized as the ‘Man
the branch.’ And this entirely accounts for
the putting of the Yule Log into the fire
on Christmas Eve, and the appearance of
the Christmas tree the next morning.”
That sure puts a different spin on
Christmas traditions, now doesn’t it?
Most Christians don’t even realize that
God warned us about such things in the
Bible.
In Jeremiah 10:1-4, God warns us against
putting up these decorated trees like the
pagans were doing….
Hear what the LORD says to you, O house
of Israel. This is what the LORD says: “Do
not learn the ways of the nations or be
terrified by signs in the sky, though the
nations are terrified by them. For the
customs of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest, and a
craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They
adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it
with hammer and nails so it will not
totter.”
The Puritans understood this. It comes
as a surprise to most Americans to learn
that the Puritans once banned Christmas
trees in many areas of the United
States because they were considered so
pagan.
According to ancient Babylonian
tradition, the springtime fertility festival of
Ishtar (Easter) was a time when the
“Queen of Heaven” was believed to
become impregnated. Nine months later
the sun god would be “born” or “reborn”.
To the ancient Babylonians, these holiday
trees came to be worshipped as the
“Queen of Heaven”, and gifts were
brought to the “groves” of trees that had
been grown in her honor and placed
beneath them as offerings.
The Babylonians also used wreaths to
represent the nativity of the sun, since
they were objects that depicted the
“womb” of the Earth mother.
Early Christians completely rejected these
traditions. In the 3rd century, Tertullian
wrote the following about these pagan
celebrations….
“On your day of gladness, we [Christians]
neither cover our doorposts with wreaths ,
nor intrude upon the day with lamps. At
the call of public festivity, you consider it
a proper thing to decorate your house like
some new brothel. We are accused of a
lower sacrilege because
we do not celebrate along with you the
holidays …”
The truth is that the celebration of
December 25th and most of the
accompanying traditions have always
been pagan.
But many Christians will protest and say
that it is okay for them to celebrate
December 25th because to them it is all
about Jesus.
That was the same excuse that Aaron
used when he and most of the rest of the
people of Israel worshipped the golden
calf while Moses was up on the mountain
getting the Law of God. Aaron actually
said that the worship of the golden calf
was being done to the Lord as we read in
Exodus 32:5….
When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in
front of the calf and announced,
“Tomorrow there will be a festival to the
LORD.”
But we know how that turned out.
God was not pleased.
At all.
In fact, He was furious.
In the same way, God is not pleased when
we celebrate pagan holidays and keep
traditions that have been pagan for
thousands of years.
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